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Google Pushes Cloud over SD Cards, Samsung Complies

Spotted on Reddit
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/hpopn/google_moving_away_from_using_sd_cards_i_hope/
This is quite interesting re the SD slot (or lack of) question.
http://www.examiner.com/web-2-0-in-tampa-bay/google-pushes-cloud-over-sd-cards-samsung-complies

Interesting articles. I agree though- I definitely won't be spending the extra money on the 32gb version of the 10.1 because I don't think I'll need it! All my music will be on the cloud, and I will probably stream most of my video watching... I think 16 gb is totally sufficient for my needs. It doesn't bother me in the least that it doesn't come with an SD-card.

The "cloud" is probably nice for the Google engineers with a terabit network, and unlimited data usage, but for me, I'd rather not have a middle-man between me and my data.
This goes especially for stingy middle-men like all the Cell phone carriers and their low bandwidth caps and expensive data plans. Even landline isps are instituting bandwidth caps, so there really isn't a better alternative to a 32gb sd card.

sriram_s said:
The "cloud" is probably nice for the Google engineers with a terabit network, and unlimited data usage, but for me, I'd rather not have a middle-man between me and my data.
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Agreed. Unless Google want's to become an ISP and give bandwidth away for for free, what they think is cool is irrelevent to my reality. I'm already juggling downloads to stay within my 250GB monthly cap by comcast (not to mention what AT&T would do if I started downloading that much content on my mobile plan, assuming their network could even provide it at a reliable, consistent speed). Why would I want to push content through that already constrained and costly pipe, when I can copy it to memory almost instantly from my home network? The answer is: I don't, but THEY want me to. They want us all ot get hooked on cloud storage, because that's just yet one more revenue stream they can create to channel money from our pockets into theirs. That's what business is all about: creating new and better ways to acquire revenue.

I am curious, for what are you planning to use your tab so that 16gb is not enough? I have galaxy tab 7, with 16gb and microSD card, and I am not using totaly more than 5gb, and I have it for 6 months.
Only thing that cross my mind is watching movies while on the trip

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I am curious, for what are you planning to use your tab so that 16gb is not enough?
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Only thing that cross my mind is watching movies
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There's a good one right there. Of course, with Tegra 2 not being that great for high profile movies, that limits it somewhat. An SD card also makes it easy to quickly move a decent amount of media from one device to another (phone, tablet, etc.) to be able to continue using it on whichever device is most appropriate for where you are.

Katavic said:
I am curious, for what are you planning to use your tab so that 16gb is not enough? I have galaxy tab 7, with 16gb and microSD card, and I am not using totaly more than 5gb, and I have it for 6 months.
Only thing that cross my mind is watching movies while on the trip
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Primary usage for me would be music files held LOCALLY on the device. Very little in way of movies and photos for me.
The cloud option might work well for me for the more obscure music I don not currently sync over to my phone and do not get a lot of plays. I do want core of my library locally stored for air travel and non-wifi situations.
I have 32GB on my pone today (pretty much same content I would also want on my tablet). I think I could live with a 32GB constraint for a long time.

My use is to make the tablet as my media hub so 32GB is a must.
I would love to use spotify, but when i have cabinets full of CD's and 50GB of music as i use very high bitrate or lossless tracks, streaming seems kind of wasting my money for service like spotify(i would personally actually have something like pandora that's free to a point to find new music over here at Europe).
I wont be streaming anything to my device, but i will be streaming from my device to TV and speaker system.
That is if i can find something as good as airplay from Android side.

markp99 said:
Primary usage for me would be music files held LOCALLY on the device. Very little in way of movies and photos for me.
The cloud option might work well for me for the more obscure music I don not currently sync over to my phone and do not get a lot of plays. I do want core of my library locally stored for air travel and non-wifi situations.
I have 32GB on my pone today (pretty much same content I would also want on my tablet). I think I could live with a 32GB constraint for a long time.
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32GB is nothing when you want to use the tab as a media player... Even at 720p encodes, thats about 4GB per movie... 64GB or more is needed for any selection

That's all good and dandy when I'm in my house with Verizon FIOS, but when I'm out, it isn't practicle. Not to mention, when I'm home... I'll be using my tv, the desktop or one of my laptops with bigger monitors.
Oh Google... stop being so Apple.

UKseagull said:
Spotted on Reddit
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/hpopn/google_moving_away_from_using_sd_cards_i_hope/
This is quite interesting re the SD slot (or lack of) question.
http://www.examiner.com/web-2-0-in-tampa-bay/google-pushes-cloud-over-sd-cards-samsung-complies
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I wonder if that's why native SD card support in Honeycomb 3.* has yet to surface but "we are working on it, until you tweaky tech ppl forget about it and then we can push media control (aka cloud storage aka new hype for just storing media remotely)"

For eventual control in the long run, that way they can be more compliant in the future with record companies for better license control....aka apple! Then those artist can also promote android like they have been doing apple
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Amazon announces the Fire TV Stick

Amazon has announced the Fire TV Stick this morning. It is capable of the full Fire TV experience. It's $39, but for 2 days only Prime members can pre-order it for $19. It has 1GB RAM, 8GB storage, a dual-core processor, and dual band MIMO wifi.
It comes with a basic remote that doesn't support voice search, although it is compatible with both the voice remote and game controller. There is no ethernet or optical audio. It cannot be powered through HDMI, so it needs external power.
Here is a comparison chart.

Since xmas is coming...
This could be a too much of a wish, but I was wondering sth:
I have a Motorola Lapdock and I see people use that device with the andorid TV sticks together as a portable laptop/tablet kinda device. I was looking for those sticks but most of them have bad reviews and outdated hardware for today. Amazon's fire stick make me excited, because the very first thing come to my mind, hacking this stick, install an android OS and use with Motorola Lapdock as a portable laptop.
I wonder such thing would be possible with this device. I ordered 2 with this great introduction price, and I am waiting to hear from you if such wish would become true?!?!?!
(santa hear me!)

What's the chance of being able to sideload apps, install Google Play Store, root it, etc?

I ordered one and may order more (even at $40) to replace a couple of ATV2s around the house which are running XBMC. My main hope is for MHL/HDMI-CEC control allowing for at least basic control through the TV remote... otherwise I won't be buying more than the one because I use Harmony remotes in pretty much every room in the house and won't allow the addition of something like LIRC or other IR receivers like the full Fire TV does. Even if I can't sideload full XBMC, I'll be fine running SPMC which is already free in the Fire TV section of the Amazon App Store, or even PLEX as a worst-case as it's already confirmed for the Fire TV Stick.

Would live something like this where i can simply install openelec and boot straight into xbmc.
Also looks like this is only for USA members which sucks lol. I have amazon prime but UK

Pre-ordered. I hope I can get XBMC on it

just ordered 2, $40 is a steal for two of them!! This will look good right next to my FireTv, Ouya, Mojo, chromecast and nexus player.....wait how many ports does my TV have?!?! lol

I would order a few of these if they would ship to Canada but unfortunately they don't. I even have a US prime membership. If anyone would be willing to ship me a couple please PM me. I'll pay for shipping, etc. no problem. I would really like to get in on the 19$ deal they have on right now.

For what its worth, it does run on android. Exactly the same as the Fire TV does apparently.
This is from their Dev Channel: https://developer.amazon.com/public...-in-the-Living-Room-with-Amazon-Fire-TV-Stick

Can this mirror my android screen without wifi present? or with a wifi router that has no internet?
I work at a fire station which has no internet, i have a data signal on my cell phone, but im not leaving my cell phone there when im not there. So can you connect an android device directly or if I have a spare router plugged in but not connected to anything? Or send videos from my GS5 to it?
Thanks!

I don't see it say that you have access to the App Store...do we have any confirmation that you can download/sideload apps to it? That one feature will make this either a great deal or just a good one.

I don't see it say that you have access to the App Store...do we have any confirmation that you can download/sideload apps to it? That one feature will make this either a great deal or just a good one.
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Id imagine it has some sort of app store as they mention gaming (200ish games) and i cant imagine they preloaded 200 games onto it with 8GB storage total.
I just ordered 2 @ $40 as well. Might even replace my Vizio Co-Star with one if it works well. Ashame the remote doesnt allow voice control but at $20 for the device and remote i wont complain. Also impressed this is stand alone unlike the Chromecast. Looks like my expected delivery isnt until Dec 10th though, almost a month after release

I just ordered one. Probably end up being a waste of money, I'm hopeful that Google Android TV will be better than FireTV in which case I'll swap out my current Roku/FTV boxes for GATV boxes, but for $20 I figured why not...
edit: My assumption is they are the same OS/functionality as the original Fire TV boxes, just lower hardware specs. If you can run something on the FTV you should be able to run it on the FTV streamer, possible performance issues aside. If you can side-load it on the FTV, you should be able to side-load it on the FTV steamer.

Maybe they add usb mass storage support to the fire tv now as there are not a lot of reasons to buy the fire tv instead of the new stick...

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Id imagine it has some sort of app store as they mention gaming (200ish games) and i cant imagine they preloaded 200 games onto it with 8GB storage total.
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200 games isn't a lot. It sounds like a reduced library App store.
I guess my line in the sand is whether we can get XBMC/SPMC on it, or not. I tried streaming from my desktop to the Chromecast before, and the latency was no bueno. I couldn't even watch it. Adb/sideloading function would make this thing scream.

My mother in law just picked up 1 for herself and one for me. Can't beat $20 a piece. Hopefully XBMC won't be a problem on the latest firmware.

BonezMontana said:
My mother in law just picked up 1 for herself and one for me. Can't beat $20 a piece. Hopefully XBMC won't be a problem on the latest firmware.
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Yeah, no kidding. I wish that we knew this before I plunked down my $20 though.

spyder3 said:
Yeah, no kidding. I wish that we knew this before I plunked down my $20 though.
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I bought it even tho I don't need it. $20 isn't anything tbh

spyder3 said:
Yeah, no kidding. I wish that we knew this before I plunked down my $20 though.
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I'll take my chances anyways though because I don't watch tv in the bedroom anyways unless I'm sick lol. I was gonna get the playstation tv until i heard the ps4 streaming sucks. So the roku stick was an alternative, since I have 2 of them in my kids rooms. I just wish I had the knowledge to unlock this thing lol. In regards to XBMC though I'm getting confused as I see that some users were able to get it to work by disabling some setting.

superkoal said:
Maybe they add usb mass storage support to the fire tv now as there are not a lot of reasons to buy the fire tv instead of the new stick...
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Would be nice if they add usb storage to the FTV, that's my number one complaint. However, think of the FTV streaming stick like the Roku streaming stick. Cheaper, smaller, lower power cpu, no lan, and in the case of FTV no optical out. If our (my) assumptions about the FTV stick are correct, it will be a better option for a lot of people.

I want to buy Shield TV but

Guys I want to buy shield tv but a few question before I do
is it worth it ?
Also does buying it from UK have any difference than buying it from U.S ? or it's all the same and it depends on the country I login from or the kind of account I use on it ?
Do I have to pay for GeForce Now to Stream my games from a gaming PC ? if not what am I paying for in Geforce now ?
I read I can install apk sideload stuff but do apps like popcorn work on it ?
and if I do get it should I update it or not ?
Can I mirror windows on the Shield ?

For me the purchase was totally worth the price. I opted for the pro bundle with the remote control and stand. Even with the add-ons, for me, the cost was still acceptable. With the new Marshmallow update, it makes it easier to format a micro SD card for internal storage, so you can get the less expensive 16gb version and just drop in a 128GB micro SD.
There is no real difference if you are using it in the UK. If you plan to subscribe to GeForce Now, there is not difference in content from the US.
You do not need to pay for a GeForce Now account to stream your PC games. You will just need to have a compatible Nvidia graphics card on your PC.
I don't have popcorn installed, so I am unable to comment on it.
If you do get it...consider updating if only for the ability to format a micro SD for internal storage.
Shield TV has Chrome cast built in so you can "Mirror" your desktop by casting it from the Chrome browser via a chrome extension.
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Thanks for the reply!
But so I have to " Pay " 8 Dollars For me to stream my games from my Gaming PC to the Shield TV? I remember having the shield handheld and I didn't pay for streaming my games from PC to Shield .
Now I have to pay for it x.X that's a huge let down

No, you only have to pay if you want to stream games from Nvidia's cloud gaming service. Streaming from your own PC is free, but your PC must have an Nvidia graphics card.
If you want to remotely control your PC from your Shield then Teamviewer should work, but I haven't tried it.

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No, you only have to pay if you want to stream games from Nvidia's cloud gaming service. Streaming from your own PC is free, but your PC must have an Nvidia graphics card.
If you want to remotely control your PC from your Shield then Teamviewer should work, but I haven't tried it.
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Worth it.
I would go with the 16GB version and get a 128 or 200GB SD Card. It takes less time to change firmwares if you are into that. I have the 500GB and just to root it you need to unlock it. This process takes about 2 hours. But on the 16GB it takes a lot less time. Around 5 mins. Huge difference. Plus with Android 6.0 and adoptive storage the 16GB +128GB is a lot better managed since essentially you have more space locally to add games. Some of my games are about 2GB. They add up quick.
That being said, I wish I went with the 16 GB.
As for for the HUB. It is nice for $8 a month(3 month free trial).
The reviewers say "It is like having Netflix for games". Kind of true. True you do have many free games to choose from but there are many that cost big money. Some games are PC games and some are Android(Google Play).
Take for instance LEGO Jurassic park. It is $40 on the game HUB. And $5 in the Market. The HUB version is CO-OP and the Market version is not. I have not done much streaming to local PC but found it for $12 online. If you do not have an nVidia card there alternatives. I just have not took the time to experiment. I do know the alternatives do work. Sometimes just as good as the nVidia solution.
Another is Star Wars: Knight of the Republic Through HUB/Google Market $9.99 or get it for $0 through Amazon Under Ground.
Keep in mind a lot of games on Amazon Underground that are free mean they are free. That means the in-game items are free as well if noted. E.g. Sonic Dash and Beach Buggy Racing. Just look for the Actually Free banner on the game icon. The Actually Free means you can level up or get better gear and not have to pay for it. One caveat. You may be saving online to the Amazon Eco system instead the Amazon Eco sytem. No biggie if you know this ahead of time.
And as for connecting to the shield remotely some good choices are:
1. As said before TeamViewer. This is good if you get it to work. I had it working on Stock and StockRestyle but something happened and I no longer can get it to work. It does work on Full Android 1.2. Image quality is pretty good.
2. Droidmote works too but use an earlier version. The newer version will not see your mouse or keyboard actions. Image quality is so so(for me).
3. Vysor works pretty good but you will need ADB on and your Shield connected via the USB cable to your PC with the correct drivers loaded. You can also share a web link to a system outside of your network and connect that way. This seems like a temporary connection. Image quality is pretty good.
4. RemoDroid works too. As far as I can tell you need to be on the same network. You can connect to shield form another Droid of with a PC using the IP or the recommended JavaClient.
The Shield TV is great.
But take these in consideration
1. Do I want to plug and play? This works for that but you will find out that the options may be limited for you if you you like to time.
2. This is a powerful little box and if you want to go further than stock and are willing to try things the playing field will get bigger.
Research. Then research some more.
Check out Stock Restyle and Full android Marshmallow. Read everything. Some things are easy to do, some things are spread out and others impossible to know about if you have not read every post. This is just the nature of a message board. I am sure someone will put all the tips and tricks in a #1 post or sticky somewhere.
These of course is my opinions. Any products and prices are my experience. I do not want to push anyone in to any direction not of their choosing.

Buyer's remorse?

Hey everybody.
I've been using media streamers for a bit.
Started with a Chromecast, then Amazon Fire stick and now with a Nexus Player.
Previous streamers felt limited but the nexus player felt better.
Now I've been thinking about upgrading to a Apple TV 4 or a Nvidia Shield tv.
My question is: Do you guys feel remorse of having bought this?
Performance aside is a bit expensive compared to other boxes.
I have a pc with a GTX970 and I was thinking maybe this will work to stream some games to my living room.
Another thing, how far away from a Shield TV 2 are we? This will surely have a price a drop when they announce the second gen, although while there is no much competition I think Nvidia will sit a bit.

You've had plenty of views but no replies...so I'll chip in lol
Do I regret buying one....no. The only thing that bothers me is how spartan the app store is for Android TV, obviously this can change in the future. If you already have a Nexus then you're already using Android TV. Is it expensive? Considering the price of the Fire TV gaming bundle...I actually think the 16GB model is priced well. I got the Nvidia remote free when I bought mine, you've literally just missed a promotion to get an extra controller. Perhaps you'd rather wait for another promotion before purchasing to get the most for your money. Buying the 16GB model and upgrading the storage via MicroSD or USB HDD would make the most sense rather than the expensive Pro model with 500GB.
Yes you can gamestream from your PC, this feature is under the SHIELD HUB...you could also try installing Moonlight which might offer slightly better performance. I've tried the Geforce NOW service and the games do play quite well to be fair. Although I will say for best results forget about wifi and hard wire the SHIELD to the router...even if you have to buy some inexpensive homeplug network adapters.
What I have done is install SPMC (KODI). I have customised it to work as a homescreen/dashboard essentially, it auto starts when I power on. This way I can set shortcuts to what I want...my retro arcade (Hyperspin), Shield Hub, Remote Play (PS4), Netflix, Radio, my movie and music collection on my home PC...you get the picture
I have no idea what Nvidia are planning. Although I would guess that we would see the Shield Tablet updated before we see a new SHIELD TV. The tablet still uses Kepler tech...the Shield TV is Maxwell. If there was a new SHIELD TV it would surely be based on Pascal

Do It
I was actually reconsidering the same like you also the apple tv.
Now I'm happy i choose the Shield! Nvidia allows you to unlock the bootloader and root the system without losing warranty, which is a great thing.
I wasn't happy with the Leanback launcher as there is a lot of stuff i don't like and the apps i installed via APK and Aptoide TV didn't show up (only with help of the sideload launcher).
So i rooted it and set a differnt launcher as default! now it is really great! I have adaway, Firefox with several adons and kodi with husham wizard!
The box is extremly fast! I have a logitech usbe mouse and keyboard connected and the box also works with my logitech universal remote.
Alsow with marshmello (shiled os 3.1) you can add a microsd with up to 128 GB to expand the internal storage!
I found an amazing app called "AirPlay/DLNA Receiver (PRO)" that you can use to mirror your tablet/mobile phone screen beside the standard YouTube casting
The only thing i'm not happy with is that it doesn't have a optical/coax audio output.
The apple tv is for sure much more limited and has by far not the game performance of the shield!

extra controller w/purchase @ gamestop. i do not know when the promotion ends, but as of this morning...its still there!

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I wasn't happy with the Leanback launcher as there is a lot of stuff i don't like and the apps i installed via APK and Aptoide TV didn't show up (only with help of the sideload launcher).
So i rooted it and set a differnt launcher as default! now it is really great!
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doe the controllers still work when you root? I Heard some about trouble with that.

Pion33r said:
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I wasn't happy with the Leanback launcher as there is a lot of stuff i don't like and the apps i installed via APK and Aptoide TV didn't show up (only with help of the sideload launcher). So i rooted it and set a differnt launcher as default! now it is really great! I have adaway, Firefox with several adons and kodi with husham wizard!
Maybe try SPMC, it's a fork of KODI. It's being developed with the SHIELD in mind. Unlike KODI, you can actually launch android apps from within SPMC (so you don't really need sideload launcher). It also integrates with the leanback launcher, providing recommendations from SPMC. Voice search from the launcher will also have links to your SPMC library. The voice feature also works with the keyboard in SPMC, so you can speak rather than type in the search box
I found an amazing app called "AirPlay/DLNA Receiver (PRO)" that you can use to mirror your tablet/mobile phone screen beside the standard YouTube casting
Airplay is for Apple devices, the SHIELD natively casts from android devices. I don't buy Apple stuff, so I've never tried it but KODI/SPMC has Airplay built in...just turn it on in the services. I'm glad to hear you're happy with the device...I always enjoy seeing the different ways people set them up and use them!
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foomanjackel said:
extra controller w/purchase @ gamestop. i do not know when the promotion ends, but as of this morning...its still there!
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Here in the UK that promotion ended on the 1st of May. If it's still available to you guys "across the pond"...that's great! Good looking out
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doe the controllers still work when you root? I Heard some about trouble with that.
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I haven't rooted my SHIELD. I could be wrong but I think the controller issues were more to do with people flashing a different ROM after rooting...the SHIELD game pad would need to be wired for example, although that may have changed by now. As we are talking about game pads. One of the reasons root would appeal to me, is that it's required for the Sixaxis app. This app will allow the DS4 pad to connect via bluetooth (lag free), as I have the Remote Play app installed this would be nice.
My phone is rooted with a custom ROM and recovery. I don't really feel that I need say an Adblocker on the SHIELD TV to be fair. Of course there are plenty of other good reasons to root the device. In fairness I am at a point now where I know how I want the devices to be, so the thought of wiping it and doing it over "properly" is getting more appealing. Rooting would help me fix a few niggling things...for example I really would like to be able to manually add the MAME 2014 core to Retroarch, I need this core for my Retro Arcade but the buildbot for Retroarch won't add it currently.
Wish you all the best playing with your devices

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doe the controllers still work when you root? I Heard some about trouble with that.
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No trouble at all. I'm on the latest version of Shield os (3.1 Marshmello). What i relly love is that now i can even use Titanium backup
Next step - Xposed

foomanjackel said:
extra controller w/purchase @ gamestop. i do not know when the promotion ends, but as of this morning...its still there!
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i actually bought mine @ gamestop in my town about 3 weeks ago. it is the 16gb version w/one controller included.... returned it today for a full refund (they put the amount on a gift card) and have just re-ordered the same unit from their website where it is the same price but now includes 2 controllers. used the gift card as payment and am just paying the shipping fee. should have the new one in a few days.

The controller works fine if you root. However, if you install a custom ROM, you will need to connect the controller to the Shield with a micro-USB cable.
The only real problem I have with the Shield is that Android TV is not nearly as capable as full Android.

Thanks a lot guys.
Hopefully I can sell my nexus player with my x360 pad on it and recoup some money for the shield tv.

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extra controller w/purchase @ gamestop. i do not know when the promotion ends, but as of this morning...its still there!
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Is that online?
Share a link please.

Silenus21 said:
Is that online?
Share a link please.
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Yes, online only. Bought mine in store 3 weeks ago with one controller. Returned yesterday for full refund which they put on a gift card. Used gift card at home to purchase online w/the extra controller. I'll be without unit for a few days while waiting for the new one, but I dont mind the wait if I can get a unit with the extra $60 controller
http://m.gamestop.com/browse/search?searchTerm=Nvidia

Thanks.
But sucks they don't take my paypal from outside USA.
And they are expensive on Ebay.
Wait, Amazon has it with the second controller for 200.
http://www.amazon.com/NVIDIA-SHIELD...d=1463060240&sr=8-1&keywords=nvidia+shield+tv

Silenus21 said:
Thanks.
But sucks they don't take my paypal from outside USA.
And they are expensive on Ebay.
Wait, Amazon has it with the second controller for 200.
http://www.amazon.com/NVIDIA-SHIELD...d=1463060240&sr=8-1&keywords=nvidia+shield+tv
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Great!! :good:

Using the 16gb model on my Sony Bravia TV with matching home theater setup with TV remote function with all shield apps including Kodi.
Missed out on free remote offer but pleasantly surprised that original TV remote gives me full functionality and more.
My only regret is that I didn't get it sooner. [emoji13]
My roku3 is collecting dust big time.
Have not subscribed to cable since 2010. Before shield was running MK-908 and was happy with setup, but the shield blows everything else out of the water.
Pp.
sent from my stone/stock S6e using microwave technology.

Yes I love mine the only thing I dislike is I bought the Pro model and you don't have full access to the HD unless you do some skull doggery. If it were easy to put a SSD in it and actually be able to hook it up to my pc that thing would be totally awesome 10/10 but alas you can't. I say get the 16GB model and go from there.

Thanks guys, got mine today.
Now to read some guides on rooting this thing.

Silenus21 said:
Thanks guys, got mine today.
Now to read some guides on rooting this thing.
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fairly simple guide here:
http://nvidiashieldzone.com/shield-android-tv/nvidia-shield-tv-16gb-root-m/
* be sure to have a usb mouse ready....you'll need it to make the "swipe to flash" when you are in TWRP. i tried a keyboard (with trackpad), the remote and even the phone app....but only the mouse would work for that step.

Thanks.
Rooted it yesterday.
Only having trouble setting up Dolphin, can't configure the shield controller and can't find an ini online.

I bought my shield to run as a Plex server because all Plex could talk about was "Shield is THE server..." It's not until you get it running that you learn that is cannot do a lot of things that my PC server handles easily. Then you find out that there's no Music Plus and missing transcoders and, btw, I hope you still have that PC because you will need it to manage your Shield Plex Server and migrate your media. Oh, and wait until you learn about file sharing with the Shield...allow yourself a little time! The punchline is that performance is tame. I do not serve 4K media, but 1080p was great from the PC that runs as a vm with 4GB.
And I made the mistake of tossing an extra remote and the (very cool and expensive) stand in my cart.
Oh well. I really need to start playing games.

Help before buy- Lenovo yoga tab 3 PLUS LTE

Im about to go to the store tomorrow and buy the lenovo tab 3 plus LTE 32GB 3GB Version.
I cannot justify extra 1400 usd for a projector and i dont need a projector either..
Im gonna mainly use this for streaming media from my NAS and swiewing some 4K material from my dji mavic drone.
IM not a android gamer, more a media whore..
and besides i do have Xbox, Shield tv and im not really using any of them, but i need a tablet for the bed and for planerides and vacations..
Will this be a good tablet and im guessing its beter than my last tablet wich i sold yesterday a Nvidia Shield tablet?
any advice im happy to hear, also if there are some tablets i havent considered.,
http://www.gsmarena.com/lenovo_yoga_tab_3_plus-8311.php

veralynn said:
Im about to go to the store tomorrow and buy the lenovo tab 3 plus LTE 32GB 3GB Version.
I cannot justify extra 1400 usd for a projector and i dont need a projector either..
Im gonna mainly use this for streaming media from my NAS and swiewing some 4K material from my dji mavic drone.
IM not a android gamer, more a media whore..
and besides i do have Xbox, Shield tv and im not really using any of them, but i need a tablet for the bed and for planerides and vacations..
Will this be a good tablet and im guessing its beter than my last tablet wich i sold yesterday a Nvidia Shield tablet?
any advice im happy to hear, also if there are some tablets i havent considered.,
http://www.gsmarena.com/lenovo_yoga_tab_3_plus-8311.php
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I don't have the plus but the pro so what a I am going to say may be wrong but I am guessing its the same. The pro doesn't support exfat file system, so without doing silly work arounds the sdcard doesn't support files larger than 4GB! This may be a problem if you want to watch hd films stored on a memory card.
Like I said I am just guessing this is the same for the plus as the pro, its lenovo being too cheap to buy exfat license.
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Sounds strange ... But im guessing a partition manager app will sort that out.. im gonna try it out.. sounds strange. Have you tried formatting the card exfat before putting it in the tablet and having it as a external hdd??

on the tab 3 pro it doesn't matter if you format it first as the tab can't read it and says it needs formatting. There is a root method of getting exfat support and some have said they use 3rd party file manager apps. I don't need anything bigger than 4gb so have not tried either method.
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Reformat the sdcard as internal drive and you will have support for bigger files. But you will loose the GB that are internal ftom factory for some reason.

veralynn said:
Reformat the sdcard as internal drive and you will have support for bigger files. But you will loose the GB that are internal ftom factory for some reason.
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Thanks for the info.
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