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Found wifi tether without root!

Not sure if anyone has realized this yet, and I apologize if this is a repost, but I recently download power control plus from the market and tried out the "wi-fi tethering" control. It works without root and appears on the other device as "androidap."
If anyone was interested in this and doesn't want to root.
EDIT: just realized it won't fully connect. Oh well, sorry.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

rhodes588 said:
Not sure if anyone has realized this yet, and I apologize if this is a repost, but I recently download power control plus from the market and tried out the "wi-fi tethering" control. It works without root and appears on the other device as "androidap."
If anyone was interested in this and doesn't want to root.
EDIT: just realized it won't fully connect. Oh well, sorry.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App
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yea theres a thread about this in development I believe
Edit: here it is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=799797

I've just been using Wireless Tether for Root Users. Works flawlessly with temp root. It just doesn't seem like their is any easy way to get tethering to work without temp root.
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/detail?name=wireless_tether_2_0_5-pre11.apk

At least temp root is very easily done. I hope T-Mo doesn't catch on to root apps and starts charging.

I don't know how they could manage to charge for rooted tethering apps to work. I believe all they can do is continue throttling heavy users.
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etjrowe said:
I don't know how they could manage to charge for rooted tethering apps to work. I believe all they can do is continue throttling heavy users.
Sent from my rooted space banana using telekinesis.
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I wouldn't know either but sometimes phone companies get smart. They somehow got smart with BlackBerry's tether but it was a little different for BB phones than it is for Android phones.
At least I hope they just throttle at the most and they don't add extra charges. I'm a poor college kid as it is >.>....

They never did anything with the BB's I have had one on TMO and tethered for YEARs no issues slow as F*&k but it worked (internet at work is monitored). They never said anything.
I also wifi tether and use Pdanet now on my shiny G2.

Wifi tether without root?

Just moved from an HTC Rezound to the EVO 4G. My Nexus 7 and Rezound are rooted running custom ROM's, the Rezound was S-Off.
New EVO 4G though, I would like to keep close to stock for warranty purposes. All I really need is wifi tether to work so I can give occasional internet access to my tablet. With VZW, I averaged 2-3gb a month max, between the phone and tablet combined. So my data usage is not heavy, but I do need to tether from time to time.
I searched and found several apps for tethering a laptop through a USB cable, but that won't work for the tablet.
So is there a simple and effective wifi tether app that I can sideload to the phone, even if there is a cost for the app? Or do I have to root to get the standard Google Wifi Tether app? If I have to root, I don't think I need S-Off and all sorts of stuff that could cause a warranty issue in the future. Whatever the absolute minimum required to get Wifi Tether will suffice.
Thanks!

SquireSCA said:
So is there a simple and effective wifi tether app that I can sideload to the phone, even if there is a cost for the app? Or do I have to root to get the standard Google Wifi Tether app? If I have to root, I don't think I need S-Off and all sorts of stuff that could cause a warranty issue in the future. Whatever the absolute minimum required to get Wifi Tether will suffice.
Thanks!
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I've heard you can tether via bluetooth with FoxFi, but I've never tried it myself. If all you want is to surf the web on your tablet that may be enough for you.
If you try it do let me know how it went.

dsf3g said:
I've heard you can tether via bluetooth with FoxFi, but I've never tried it myself. If all you want is to surf the web on your tablet that may be enough for you.
If you try it do let me know how it went.
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The latest ota breaks foxfi. I think that root is my only option. What's the simplest method? I don't need s-off or custom Roms, just root for tethering.

Here you go. It's the HTCdev method (assuming you're on Hboot 2.18) which will give you an unlocked bootloader and root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1473373
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SquireSCA said:
The latest ota breaks foxfi. I think that root is my only option. What's the simplest method? I don't need s-off or custom Roms, just root for tethering.
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I'm still on 2.2. I had a bad experience rooting the first time, so I've been hesitant to flash a newer ROM. At some point I'll work up the courage and flash a 2.3 ROM. So the long and the short of it is: I won't be of much help. But look around the forum. Plenty of folks can help you.

Are Root& ROM's dead?

Like the title says...seeing that Android Pay is disabled when rooted, what is the future of rooted phones and by extension ROM's?

sluflyer06 said:
Like the title says...seeing that Android Pay is disabled when rooted, what is the future of rooted phones and by extension ROM's?
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Highly doubt developers will stop making ROM's just because of something like Android Pay.

stevew84 said:
Highly doubt developers will stop making ROM's just because of something like Android Pay.
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Android pay is novel and CAN make life easier, but it's not a necessity or something 90% of users will be using so I doubt root and custom roms are in any danger or extinction based on just android pay.
Sent from my SM-G530H using Tapatalk

I personally am finding very little reason to root anymore. The only added benefit would be adblocking but I can live with it just for Android Pay. Native tethering works. System UI Tuner settings does most of the things I wanted for GravityBox.

toyanucci said:
Android pay is novel and CAN make life easier, but it's not a necessity or something 90% of users will be using so I doubt root and custom roms are in any danger or extinction based on just android pay.
Sent from my SM-G530H using Tapatalk
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I am so curious to know how did you come up with that 90% number...

luciferiusXI said:
I am so curious to know how did you come up with that 90% number...
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Did a personal pole lolol. How many people do YOU know who own an android phone that uses android pay? Also how many places do you know that takes android pay? The percentage is probably higher than 90% actually...
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Does imprint still work if rooted?

Personally i couldn't care less about paying with my phone when my wallet and everything I need to carry is with me regardless. Regardless of that people have gotten android pay working with rooted devices. Root, adblock / do your thing and the unroot. Add your cards and pay as you normally would. Most people don't need root 24/7 so you can have your cake and eat it too.
Don't want to root? Enjoy your ads. Or use one of the proxy services just hope they treat your data well.

Far from it, there will be plenty of XDA N6p roms to go around! Happy Flashing

adamsweeting said:
Does imprint still work if rooted?
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I'm not sure anyone has root yet, but my device has the bootloader unlocked and imprint still works.
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adamsweeting said:
Does imprint still work if rooted?
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Why are people asking this question? It seems so nonsensical to me...S5 had root and a fingerprint scanner, s6, note 5, tab s etc. Why would root stop a hardware feature like a fingerprint scanner?!
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sluflyer06 said:
Like the title says...seeing that Android Pay is disabled when rooted, what is the future of rooted phones and by extension ROM's?
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Root and custom roms are not synonymous. You can have root on the stock rom on your phone and you can have a custom rom without root. For example, I have a custom rom right now without root, as I need to use apps that don't work with root, but I still want features from a custom rom.

toyanucci said:
Why are people asking this question? It seems so nonsensical to me...S5 had root and a fingerprint scanner, s6, note 5, tab s etc. Why would root stop a hardware feature like a fingerprint scanner?!
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Errm - because I haven't owned any of those devices I wasn't "in the know", so I asked the question. Jeez.

There are no custom roms. There is only Chroma.

i doubt it will die however paying with your phone has put a dent in the community as well as made android have more security because of it, plus apps like adguard, and for samsung there are disable apps that don't require root and no ads and app disabling are the only two things some people want.

Won't die. Even more so in countries like mine which refuse to support Android Pay or any other form of mobile credit payment
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luciferiusXI said:
I am so curious to know how did you come up with that 90% number...
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Why do you need it? It's a god damn sham. Google wallet has been there for ages no one complaint and have been rooting phones since it existed.
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

God no root is a massive pain.
No ad blocking, going from no ads to all ads between my 6 and 6P even XDA is bad !
Also I like to hide the nav bar to negate the burn in issues of AMOLED, don't care what anyone says these screens WILL burn in its because of the technology.
3. Tweeked stock ROMs with proper reboot options and circle battery and such

Wait for Xposed.
When Xposed is available you can install a cloak and use Pay.
I use pay on my LG G3 with Xposed and root.
Cards need to be added without Xposed installed.
To use Pay you either need to disable root or cloak it.
Not a big deal.

Zimeron said:
Root and custom roms are not synonymous. You can have root on the stock rom on your phone and you can have a custom rom without root. For example, I have a custom rom right now without root, as I need to use apps that don't work with root, but I still want features from a custom rom.
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I didn't know this thought you had to have root to flash custom roms
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VZW tethering and Android Pay

So I just purchased the 6P and I have a few weeks to wait for it's arrival.
Was curious if there is a way to alter the build.prop so that I can use my 6P as a WiFi hotspot without keeping the phone rooted. Verizon doesn't allow me to use my phone as a "hotspot" with my Unlimited Data Plan, so I've always had to use an xposed module or something to deactivate the subscription check. My hope is that I can deactivate this check then unroot my phone.
I don't want to be fully rooted on a daily basis because I am hoping to use Android Pay.

Hotspot works out of the box without any build.prop edits.

Mustang02 said:
Hotspot works out of the box without any build.prop edits.
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Can confirm. Not sure why, however, I'm not complaining.

joderme said:
Can confirm. Not sure why, however, I'm not complaining.
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Wait... So you guys have been using VZW tethering out of the box with no subscription pop-ups??
If this is true.. :good::good::good:

collinjm01 said:
Wait... So you guys have been using VZW tethering out of the box with no subscription pop-ups??
If this is true.. :good::good::good:
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There was another thread were Verizon users on unlimited data confirmed. I'll have mine Thursday so I'll check as well.

personally i've seen mixed reports. i'm beginning to wonder if there were a "later" batch of SIMs issued that forced some VZW bloatware to be installed. i'm not sure if these rumors were true or not, as this will be my first non-vzw device.
as for the OP - if you end up needing to edit the build.prop, you can unroot after making the changes.

I have had mine since Friday and I can confirm that you can use the built in hotspot function with my unlimited data package with no pop up at all. It just works. I don't know why but I am not complaining like said above.

Great news, thanks guys!!
Now if we could just get November 18-20 here faster...
I'll have to avoid XDA all together as the draw of custom ROMs could cause me to abandon Android Pay, but tethering and no root is great! Only other thing I use root for on my MotoX is Greenify which should be nullified by Doze.

PSA: First thing you do with your phone, unlock your bootloader! Regardless of rooting or not, you want the flexibility to not have to wipe your phone if you choose to root.
I spent the better part of yesterday reinstalling everything because I chose to finally root. Android Pay works with root, you just have to disable Superuser to add payment methods.
Tethering also works with Verizon out of the box. I have unlimited data and not paying for hotspot.

Got mine today. UDP on VZW. Tethering works right out of the box. It's GLORIOUS. Used to Android pay to pick up six pack at the liquor store tonight. This may be the first phone I DON'T root LOL. I've rooted EVERY phone I've had. Who knew it would take a Nexus NOT to root HAHAHAHA
Seriously Tethering is the first reason for rooting. There are many others....but Tethering was my main reason. With it working out of the box....I'm going to let the Devs. work their magic before I go near messing with it. I left my wallet at home, but saw the wireless pay at the register....cha ching!

318sugarhill said:
Got mine today. UDP on VZW. Tethering works right out of the box. It's GLORIOUS. Used to Android pay to pick up six pack at the liquor store tonight. This may be the first phone I DON'T root LOL. I've rooted EVERY phone I've had. Who knew it would take a Nexus NOT to root HAHAHAHA
Seriously Tethering is the first reason for rooting. There are many others....but Tethering was my main reason. With it working out of the box....I'm going to let the Devs. work their magic before I go near messing with it. I left my wallet at home, but saw the wireless pay at the register....cha ching!
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not only that but some adblocks work without root as well. i've become used to nine as my exchange email client, so replacing the exchange.apk isn't even necessary any longer.
i might start looking in to theming again, however, since M natively supports it.

640k said:
personally i've seen mixed reports. i'm beginning to wonder if there were a "later" batch of SIMs issued that forced some VZW bloatware to be installed. i'm not sure if these rumors were true or not, as this will be my first non-vzw device.
as for the OP - if you end up needing to edit the build.prop, you can unroot after making the changes.
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Well my nexus 6 is non-vzw (it even says it on their website under myverizon) and it has never allowed me to tether.
I had to root and rom to get it to work.

Cares said:
PSA: First thing you do with your phone, unlock your bootloader! Regardless of rooting or not, you want the flexibility to not have to wipe your phone if you choose to root.
I spent the better part of yesterday reinstalling everything because I chose to finally root. Android Pay works with root, you just have to disable Superuser to add payment methods.
Tethering also works with Verizon out of the box. I have unlimited data and not paying for hotspot.
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Even with an unlocked bootloader we need to wipe to root. I guess this may change in the future.

Cares said:
PSA: First thing you do with your phone, unlock your bootloader! Regardless of rooting or not, you want the flexibility to not have to wipe your phone if you choose to root.
I spent the better part of yesterday reinstalling everything because I chose to finally root. Android Pay works with root, you just have to disable Superuser to add payment methods.
Tethering also works with Verizon out of the box. I have unlimited data and not paying for hotspot.
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are you sure you put android pay in after you rooted? I haven't seen it worked for anyone who actually rooted the phone. some who put it in before they rooted got it to work??

johnp357 said:
are you sure you put android pay in after you rooted? I haven't seen it worked for anyone who actually rooted the phone. some who put it in before they rooted got it to work??
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Use the temporary unroot in SuperSu.
I installed and configured after my phone was rooted.
I can use Android Pay just fine.
All I do is temp unroot.

tech_head said:
Use the temporary unroot in SuperSu.
I installed and configured after my phone was rooted.
I can use Android Pay just fine.
All I do is temp unroot.
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thanks... strange that it works for some and not others... just like anything else I guess...
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tech_head said:
Use the temporary unroot in SuperSu.
I installed and configured after my phone was rooted.
I can use Android Pay just fine.
All I do is temp unroot.
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out of curiosity, did you use a systemless root ? like with chainfire?

To root or not to root

Hi All
I will be receiving my OnePlus 6T (in thunder purple) this week and wanted to know if there is any benefit to rooting anymore, having read posts about widevine L1-L3 etc
I'd like to install the notification mod, speaker mod and the google camera app, (or anything else that is recommended) however i'm not sure if i can do these without root
I like to tinker with my phones and im pretty clued up with this sort of thing, ive just been out of the scene for a couple of years!
Looking forward to peoples views and comments.
Thanks all

I root just for the speaker mod alone. :good:
GCam doesn't require root.

tengtengvn said:
I root just for the speaker mod alone. :good:
GCam doesn't require root.
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Thanks, how big is the widevine issue once unlocked and rooted?

I use to root, but haven't in the last 3-4 years. The Huawei Mate phones I've used, really didn't need it. Pretty clean, and nothing I really needed to root anyway. Plus, unless you tweak them, I wouldn't be able to use Google pay.

Well, I was happy without root since the Note 5 but since Google is eager to slowly kill off various important apps that used to work without root on Oreo then I was forced to root this 6T since it's running on Pie. I think it's worth it now. I have call recording natively baked into the phone app, I can use Swift once more and I forgot how useful Titanium Backup is. I'm getting ready to try the speaker mod, as well.

Speaker mod seems useless. I root for adblocking without VPN (AdAway), root firewall (AFWall), and themes (Substratum).

I was a crack-flasher from way back and I don't find the need to unlock/root. I'd like Adaway but DNS66 pulls some of it's host files from Adaway.

I stopped rooting about a year or 2 ago with the note 4 and had no plans on it for the 6t but viper4android works perfectly so I rooted just for that. I have adguard for adblocker. As time goes on I might add some modules from magisk but as for now it's great. Titanium back up is always super useful as well.
MarylandCookie said:
Hi All
I will be receiving my OnePlus 6T (in thunder purple) this week and wanted to know if there is any benefit to rooting anymore, having read posts about widevine L1-L3 etc
I'd like to install the notification mod, speaker mod and the google camera app, (or anything else that is recommended) however i'm not sure if i can do these without root
I like to tinker with my phones and im pretty clued up with this sort of thing, ive just been out of the scene for a couple of years!
Looking forward to peoples views and comments.
Thanks all
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Thanks guys,
Some mixed feelings there. I’m guessing the speaker mod is not worth the hassle and the ad blocking can be achieved without root (looking at you blokada)
Not read up much on sunstratum, that’ll be my next to do...
Hmmm... decisions, decisions as I don’t want to decide to root 6 months down the line and find out I have to format my device (unlock bootloader)

MarylandCookie said:
Thanks guys,
Some mixed feelings there. I’m guessing the speaker mod is not worth the hassle and the ad blocking can be achieved without root (looking at you blokada)
Not read up much on sunstratum, that’ll be my next to do...
Hmmm... decisions, decisions as I don’t want to decide to root 6 months down the line and find out I have to format my device (unlock bootloader)
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I personally love my 6t being rooted... I use adaway with Magisk v 18 which now has a Systemless host support in its (magisk)settings for ad blocking.. Substratum engine also works in magisk v 18 mod section. Swift black substratum theme works flawlessly.
Ex Kernel manager is great too.
I'm running ElementalX kernel 3.0.9. which is very smooth.
I updated to OOS 9.0.7. using TWRP fajita 3.2.3-8.
I have the stereo speaker mod also. It's not that impressive, but ok.
Well that's my 2 cents. personally I love this phone so much more now that it's rooted..
Hope this helps your decision.

So is the Widevine such a big issue with root?

MarylandCookie said:
So is the Widevine such a big issue with root?
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If you watch netflix or something else that is using Widevine then yes! this is a big issue. You can always experiment with root and check it yourself. If you will not be happy with root you can always unroot + lock bootloader so all will return to normal.

meciu99 said:
If you watch netflix or something else that is using Widevine then yes! this is a big issue. You can always experiment with root and check it yourself. If you will not be happy with root you can always unroot + lock bootloader so all will return to normal.
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Will I still be able to use my banking app? Also is there a site that lists what is reliant on widevine?

MarylandCookie said:
Thanks guys,
Some mixed feelings there. I’m guessing the speaker mod is not worth the hassle and the ad blocking can be achieved without root (looking at you blokada)
Not read up much on sunstratum, that’ll be my next to do...
Hmmm... decisions, decisions as I don’t want to decide to root 6 months down the line and find out I have to format my device (unlock bootloader)
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It's not a hassle at all. So easy on this phone.
Speaker mod is great. I love it.

MarylandCookie said:
Thanks guys,
Some mixed feelings there. I’m guessing the speaker mod is not worth the hassle and the ad blocking can be achieved without root (looking at you blokada)
Not read up much on sunstratum, that’ll be my next to do...
Hmmm... decisions, decisions as I don’t want to decide to root 6 months down the line and find out I have to format my device (unlock bootloader)
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Unlock the BL and install Magisk.
No real hassle. You can take update locally and reroot.
The very first thing out of the box for my device was unlock the BL and root.

MarylandCookie said:
So is the Widevine such a big issue with root?
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Widevine is not directly related to root but with unlocked bootloader.
No issue with magisk and banking apps except a few that I don't remember of. Google pay works well

sounds like someone reading my threads...there's nothing here that wasn't mentioned in countless other threads. Weigh the pros and cons and make a decision...first time I've gone rootless in years.

OK.. got my handset.. its a beauty
1st thing i have done is Unlocked the bootloader.. so simple!
Will install magisk over the weekend and set phone up properly then. Have other family priorites that have come up to deal with at the moment.
Thanks all. Need to start reading, dont want to flash wrong recovery.

MarylandCookie said:
the ad blocking can be achieved without root (looking at you blokada)
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For apps like Blokada, it's always running in the background and uses a VPN. If you use an actual VPN, this means you can't use Blokada while your VPN is running. AdAway just edits the host file. No app running in background, no VPN.

MarylandCookie said:
Will I still be able to use my banking app? Also is there a site that lists what is reliant on widevine?
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I'm rooted and use BB&T banking app and Google pay +PayPal..