Check the message OnePlus has sent in the image attached. This explains why the development for Onyx is so slow, or nearly dead.
Wake up !!
It has been announced months ago....
Kéno40 said:
Wake up !!
It has been announced months ago....
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a 64bit processor requires twice the ram to give the same performance as a 32 bit processor... so consider yourself lucky to get a 3gb ram device with 32 bit processor which is equal to a 64bit processor with 6gb ram! it was a steal and i was surprised it was even launched! great buy seriously.
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a 64bit processor requires twice the ram to give the same performance as a 32 bit processor... so consider yourself lucky to get a 3gb ram device with 32 bit processor which is equal to a 64bit processor with 6gb ram! it was a steal and i was surprised it was even launched! great buy seriously.
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same here, the camera is top-notch
Kéno40 said:
Wake up !!
It has been announced months ago....
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what? :/ I ordered another unit just 2 months ago for my friend and the shipment arrived as well
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Hello,
I just bought a nexus 10 and I have a question about the RAM amount. It's supposed to have 2GB of RAM but in my device it show only 1.23GB....
Is it normal? In my nexus 4 it shows 1.83GB.
Thanks and best regards.
Forget it. I just read that 800MB from the RAM are reserved for the GPU. Like a ****ing laptop...
Uhh...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40030815
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2204404
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2146679
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2146554
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2008146
Edit: took me too long haha
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Uhh...
Edit: took me too long haha
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Thank you very much for your time.
2 gb = big lie from manufactures
400 mb = true
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samwheat said:
2 gb = big lie from manufactures
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Not really. They are telling the truth that there is 2GB of RAM installed. Just hate that almost half of it isn't usable by the intended purpose...
Should of just thrown 2.8GB of RAM on the board and gave 800MB directly to the GPU.
It isnt just the Nexus 10 that has this shared memory, most phones and tablets do. There are specific chipsets that have their own dedicated vram, like Tegra 3. Having dedicated vram chips has to do with how the memory controller is designed in the chipset architecture.
Only other difference seems to be a slight bump in clockspeed from 2.3GHz to 2.5GHz. I wonder what pricing will look like on these models?
Sure wish ASUS would just release 5.1.1 already but perhaps they're busy releasing all these Zenfone 2 models...
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Only other difference seems to be a slight bump in clockspeed from 2.3GHz to 2.5GHz. I wonder what pricing will look like on these models?
Sure wish ASUS would just release 5.1.1 already but perhaps they're busy releasing all these Zenfone 2 models...
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I can't wait to feel how hot that CPU is going to get . Probably 50 USD more or 100 USD more it is has other new stuff too.
ASUS Zenfone 2 Deluxe and ASUS Zenfone 2 are same.
No changes.
http://www.gsmarena.com/asus_zenfone_2_deluxe_ze551ml-7475.php
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ASUS Zenfone 2 Deluxe and ASUS Zenfone 2 are same.
No changes.
http://www.gsmarena.com/asus_zenfone_2_deluxe_ze551ml-7475.php
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Here's the link to the announcement this morning:
http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/new...n-with-256gb-internal-storage-unveiled-730942
Not sure if 2.5Mhz is real. According to Intel's website, Z3580 have max frequency of 2.33Ghz only
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Honestly, I don't care about anything other than the quarter of a TB storage *droool*
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Here's the link to the announcement this morning:
http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/new...n-with-256gb-internal-storage-unveiled-730942
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Its also 2.3 ghz
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Its also 2.3 ghz
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Yes.. the Deluxe is 2.3 ghz. You've pointed that out already.
The Deluxe Special Edition... that's what was announced this morning. & if it IS a misprint @ 2.3 ghz? who cares? It's not like we're going to notice an extra 200mhz.
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Yes.. the Deluxe is 2.3 ghz. You've pointed that out already.
The Deluxe Special Edition... that's what was announced this morning. & if it IS a misprint @ 2.3 ghz? who cares? It's not like we're going to notice an extra 200mhz.
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Btw 2.5 ghz is really noticeable.
Umm really Asus lol. 5.1.1 would be great instead of making 30 version of the same phone.....
Guess that what cm12 is for right
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Btw 2.5 ghz is really noticeable.
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sorry OP, we're getting away from the topic @ hand but 2.3 ghz -> 2.5 ghz will NOT be that noticeable.
0.2 ghz = 8.7% ( as in 0.08695 ) increase in potential performance. In general, you need a 50% increase to notice a difference.
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sorry OP, we're getting away from the topic @ hand but 2.3 ghz -> 2.5 ghz will NOT be that noticeable.
0.2 ghz = 8.7% ( as in 0.08695 ) increase in potential performance. In general, you need a 50% increase to notice a difference.
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Oh really? I don't think so.
It's exactly the same except for storage. While it would be amazing to have 256gb of internal storage, I don't think the premium would be worth it. 64 is enough for me(for apps) with media on my external card
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Clock speeds don't mean a whole lot in modern processors.
In all reality if you have the 2.3ghz model then this is NOT worth it period IMHO. 2.3ghz to 2.5ghz you will not be able to tell a difference in real world use. The 256 internal storage is amazing just to have. But 64gb is way more than enough for me and majority of users.
goodbye flagship z00a..you'll be forgotten and will never receive 5.1.1 or M.....
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goodbye flagship z00a..you'll be forgotten and will never receive 5.1.1 or M.....
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Lol you can't be serious........
ycavan said:
sorry OP, we're getting away from the topic @ hand but 2.3 ghz -> 2.5 ghz will NOT be that noticeable.
0.2 ghz = 8.7% ( as in 0.08695 ) increase in potential performance. In general, you need a 50% increase to notice a difference.
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so.... 8.7% more faster battery drain?
ASUS pls, fix your os problem first :crying:
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goodbye flagship z00a..you'll be forgotten and will never receive 5.1.1 or M.....
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according to spec, it will be the same Z00A. So, it should share the same ROM with existing ZE551ML.
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Clock speeds don't mean a whole lot in modern processors.
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that is utterly wrong, over the years all the performance gains you get from intel are from stock clock speed bumps rather than IPC increase. a 200mhz increase in turbo clocks on all four cores can make a noticeable difference, that is if they can be maintained long enough, otherwise in most short time race to sleep scenarios the difference is hard to see. in fact the only changes you see from SD800 to SD805 in cpu are that qualcomm keeps overclocking their CPUs, but the problem is that qualcomm has more conservative throttling mechanisms whereas intel handles it more leniently. the point is if they kept the same TDP as 2.3ghz one with the new one then it won't make any significant change, if they raise the TDP or allow for longer turbo time then that 2.5ghz will make a noticeable change in many daily usage cases such as gaming and HEVC decoding.
in terms of app opening speed and booting time though, that depends on what kind of NAND asus uses. the nand they use so far in our ZE551ML are pretty crappy and around average at best, if they kept using those lower grade NAND then I see no point in this new variant at all
The Nexus 10 is suppose to have "2GB" of ram, but my Nexus 10 only have "1099"
The Nexus 10 is suppose to have "2GB" of ram, but my Nexus 10 only have "1099"
what is problem?
android 5.1.1
Round it up and it's 2gb
Mine is also showing 1GB of Ram and its runs slow. Is it supposed to have 2?
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In later software releases, they decided to allocate more of the ram to the video. Search this forum for a more detailed answer if interested.
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if i recall correctly, about 900mb is reserved for the gpu.
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if i recall correctly, about 900mb is reserved for the gpu.
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I remember finding this out a few years ago and being pretty upset at the time. The tablet advertises 2GB of RAM, and yet about 1GB of it is only usable for the expected advertising purpose.
It's like me advertising my computer has 12GB of RAM, meanwhile, 4GB of that is dedicated to the GPU (which on it's own isn't really a problem, but it would make more sense to advertise 8GB)
Even then it would still be 12GB.
Let me get a little technical.
If you have an APU based PC, the GPU is on the same die as the processor. So when you use the GPU portion of the APU, it will use the RAM. How much? It depends on the load.
You can still use all of it though, so it isn't a problem. When you aren't using the GPU, all of your RAM is available.
Hey guys,
Check out this video comparing the speeds of the devices and if the extra gig RAM really matters. https://youtu.be/j3J2DNHIbR4
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Hey guys,
Check out this video comparing the speeds of the devices and if the extra gig RAM really matters.
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Is the opx tweaked in any way?
its normal for the opx to open apps faster than the nexus, after all the 801 is still a good cpu clocked @ 2.3ghz vs the 808 which is a low powered quad core + more powerful dual core @ 1.8 ghz, thats why the opx is still a bit faster. But knowing what i know now, i would definitely go for the nexus 5x over the OPX
Unfortunately opening apps faster is not all that matters. Ram speed and other stuff is important too, as well as software updates
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Is the opx tweaked in any way?
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No, it's running stock OxygenOS 3.1.3 without any tweaks.
Synchronize the touches on both phone FFS. Total waste of 2:25
Turns out Lenovo thought it would be a great idea to use 32bit for any reason.
realy? yet still this question?
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Turns out Lenovo thought it would be a great idea to use 32bit for any reason.
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Wrong area to post this. 64 bit? Get a nexus.
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Why is this so absurd to consider? The device have a 64 bit CPU.
Why not use 64bit Android.
LionLorena said:
Why is this so absurd to consider? The device have a 64 bit CPU.
Why not use 64bit Android.
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If you had searched for a little bit, you would have found that the answer was already made many times and answered in detail.
LionLorena said:
Why is this so absurd to consider? The device have a 64 bit CPU.
Why not use 64bit Android.
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Because there's effectively no point. The SD617 has a 32-bit width data bus- a 64-bit ROM would actually yield less performance.
Why do you want a 64-bit ROM anyway? There's absolutely nothing 32-bit Android has to offer over 64-bit Android absurdly high RAM amounts (which you'll never find in a budget phone).
Some software I wanna use is 64bit only.
And what would be "absurdly high"?
Because from what I know the advised ram for 64bit is 4gb.
LionLorena said:
Some software I wanna use is 64bit only.
And what would be "absurdly high"?
Because from what I know the advised ram for 64bit is 4gb.
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No use of 64 bit unless RAM > 4 GB. Beyond 4GB is the point where 64 bit arch starts.
Moreover does moto even release 64 bit source? I heard something similar in the potter forum.
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No use of 64 bit unless RAM > 4 GB. Beyond 4GB is the point where 64 bit arch starts.
Moreover does moto even release 64 bit source? I heard something similar in the potter forum.
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Actually 3.7gb (give it or take) is the limit of 32bit.
So any value over that is valid for 64bit
And to be fair the minimum ram for 64bit would be 2gb.
They say 4gb because is where it matters most.
Since 32 can only deal with 4gb.
1 for kernel and 3 for application.
RAM consumption is huge on 64 bits system, take a look to the Nexus 5X... For an Android device running a 64 bits system you need at least 3 GB of RAM, and also, why do you want a 64 bits system if a 32 bits system offers better performance? The 64 bits system just has new type of instructions that are only for more complex calculations that not even the average user will use
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And to be fair the minimum ram for 64bit would be 2gb.
They say 4gb because is where it matters most.
Since 32 can only deal with 4gb.
1 for kernel and 3 for application.
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What software do you need to run on Android that requires 64-bit?
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Wrong place to post
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Oh, I'm deeply sorry, it sounded appropriate to post under its own device category.
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RAM consumption is huge on 64 bits system, take a look to the Nexus 5X... For an Android device running a 64 bits system you need at least 3 GB of RAM, and also, why do you want a 64 bits system if a 32 bits system offers better performance? The 64 bits system just has new type of instructions that are only for more complex calculations that not even the average user will use
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I need it to run 64bit only software.
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What software do you need to run on Android that requires 64-bit?
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Dolphin
Nintendo GameCube / Wii Emulator
Thread cleaned of rather sad tripe.
Keep it civil please...
LenAsh said:
Thread cleaned of rather sad tripe.
Keep it civil please...
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Thanks !
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Dolphin
Nintendo GameCube / Wii Emulator
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In all seriousness, even if a 64-bit ROM were ported to the G4 the SD617 inside would struggle heavily.
You need at least an SD801 to run Dolphin anywhere near smoothly.
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In all seriousness, even if a 64-bit ROM were ported to the G4 the SD617 inside would struggle heavily.
You need at least an SD801 to run Dolphin anywhere near smoothly.
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Hm I see.
Well, I've figured since it was to run some 2D title I would do fine.
Since I don't have a very powerful computer either (dual core i3 3217u) and it run said title at 60fps where other 3D games won't pass 10fps.
But that's expected I guess, I think it's time to move on.
I wonder if the Moto Z is 64bit since it is SD820
Didn't yu yureka have a 64 bit is?