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Li-po or Li-on

I thought our nexus 4's came with Li-po battery. By pressing *#*#4636#*#* then going to battery information I found this.
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as you can see on the battery technology it says its a li-on. My question is does any of yours say's this aswell? or is it just me
Thanks in advance

Mine says li-ion as well, cpu-z also says li-ion.
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Do you have any ideas why that is? I find that really confusing xD

fluffboy said:
Do you have any ideas why that is? I find that really confusing xD
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I think that this is code mistake, because programs take that info from device files where it's stored (idk how program can watch it in other way). Our battery is Li-PO, because that said in specs. Google can't lie to users.

Li-ion polymer
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fluffboy said:
I thought our nexus 4's came with Li-po battery. By pressing *#*#4636#*#* then going to battery information I found this.
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as you can see on the battery technology it says its a li-on. My question is does any of yours say's this aswell? or is it just me
Thanks in advance
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It's written on the battery that it's Li-ion. Boom .

fluffboy said:
I thought our nexus 4's came with Li-po battery. By pressing *#*#4636#*#* then going to battery information I found this.
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as you can see on the battery technology it says its a li-on. My question is does any of yours say's this aswell? or is it just me
Thanks in advance
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Nexus 4 utilizes li-ion polodium. It's mean that li-po battery

More information Li-ion vs Li-Po
http://support.radioshack.com/support_tutorials/batteries/bt-liion-main.htm

Is my battery damaged?

is my battery damaged ? I have tried many ROMs and on all of them I'm having a very bad battery life. I have everything turned off and my brightness is 0% and the battery drains super fast. what should I do ?

1. Do factory reset
2. Exchange the phone if option 1 doesn't work...good working G2s don't perform like your phone is @ the moment

tiguy99 said:
1. Do factory reset
2. Exchange the phone if option 1 doesn't work...good working G2s don't perform like your phone is @ the moment
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How can I exchange it ? it is an international version D802

3thman said:
How can I exchange it ? it is an international version D802
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What's the problem with that exactly? (Most issues with battery life are user problems - usually a poor wipe / flash regime and using poor quality apps and heavy syncing. I assume you have used the usual wakelock detection procedures).
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Por signal will drain your battery.
Mostly apps are draining it post a screanshots of your battery stats.
Install gsam to see what's draining..

3thman said:
is my battery damaged ? I have tried many ROMs and on all of them I'm having a very bad battery life. I have everything turned off and my brightness is 0% and the battery drains super fast. what should I do ?
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What do you define as "very bad", and how do you actually use your phone?
We can't guess to help you.

maydayind said:
Por signal will drain your battery.
Mostly apps are draining it post a screanshots of your battery stats.
Install gsam to see what's draining..
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Yes, that's a big one on ma d802. If i'm in a room with bad connection, the battery goes down much faster then usual.

joeyvanhummel said:
What do you define as "very bad", and how do you actually use your phone?
We can't guess to help you.
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like if im using the phone every 3 mins i lose 1 percent

maydayind said:
Por signal will drain your battery.
Mostly apps are draining it post a screanshots of your battery stats.
Install gsam to see what's draining..
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Schindler069 said:
Yes, that's a big one on ma d802. If i'm in a room with bad connection, the battery goes down much faster then usual.
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but i did not go to a bad signal place.. could be that my battery is dead ?

3thman said:
but i did not go to a bad signal place.. could be that my battery is dead ?
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I would try to reset everything to factory, see how it goes then. If not, flash custom rom/kernel, tweak cpu and search for wakelocks. If the problem is still present, get a new battery.

3thman said:
like if im using the phone every 3 mins i lose 1 percent
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1% / 3mins sounds like 5 hours on battery to me. Reasonable, but not great.
Depends if you have your screen on during that time or not, and what brightness, and what tasks it is doing. If that is screen off at all, then it's horrible. If full brightness screen-on for the whole time, then it's ok.

joeyvanhummel said:
1% / 3mins sounds like 5 hours on battery to me. Reasonable, but not great.
Depends if you have your screen on during that time or not, and what brightness, and what tasks it is doing. If that is screen off at all, then it's horrible. If full brightness screen-on for the whole time, then it's ok.
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Yep. If you go to Battery, is your phone intensivly active while screen is off?
My Battery atm: 1d 3h 14m with 53m screen on time at 87%, but pretty much all day on wlan.

joeyvanhummel said:
1% / 3mins sounds like 5 hours on battery to me. Reasonable, but not great.
Depends if you have your screen on during that time or not, and what brightness, and what tasks it is doing. If that is screen off at all, then it's horrible. If full brightness screen-on for the whole time, then it's ok.
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Schindler069 said:
Yep. If you go to Battery, is your phone intensivly active while screen is off?
My Battery atm: 1d 3h 14m with 53m screen on time at 87%, but pretty much all day on wlan.
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I'm most worried that I have to exchange my phone cuz the battery is damaged

3thman said:
I'm most worried that I have to exchange my phone cuz the battery is damaged
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If your phone is the international version, you have the option to buy a new battery And swap it out. I would try this since batteries are pretty cheap at the moment.
If it still drains after all these things only then do I recommend you return the phone for a new one

tiguy99 said:
If your phone is the international version, you have the option to buy a new battery And swap it out. I would try this since batteries are pretty cheap at the moment.
If it still drains after all these things only then do I recommend you return the phone for a new one
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actually I searched for buying a battery but I did not find any website. Could you tell me where please ? thank you

Culd be som app running that is draining it.
Install a battery monitor. Like gsam then u can see what's drainimg the battery.

Try delete google+. Giving a lot wakelocks. If u are rooted install wakelock detector and let it run 2 or 3 hours and see if its under 20%
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maydayind said:
Culd be som app running that is draining it.
Install a battery monitor. Like gsam then u can see what's drainimg the battery.
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try it then delete what taking more battery

xros said:
try it then delete what taking more battery
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I would suggest to stop draining processes first. If stopping it doesn't cause any problems i would rather freeze than delet it.
But if it's caused by a ****ty app you downloaded, delete it right away.

if none works, get warranty

Wrong battery percentage

Hello everybody!
I have a Note 3 N900, 5.0, L19, dr ketan rom. This problem existed even on stock, and on stock KitKat.
I have a problem with the battery percentage. The battery percentage goes down at a rate of, for example when browsing the web on Chrome, 2%-4% a minute!
Overall, the battery life is not good during to this problem, as you guys can imagine. Tried to do a battery cycle (emptying the battery and charging to full) with no success...
Bought 2 new (!) batteries, but still, with no luck.
What the he** can be the problem if not from the ROM itself?
Thank you!

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charge always with original wall charger :good:

dancapitan said:
charge always with original wall charger :good:
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Since I had the phone, I charged it always with the original wall charger. Always. That's not the problem...
Azar_98 said:
EXACT same with my s4 i9500. no matter which rom, give it official lollipop, custom roms, cm12, cm11, official 4.4, my battery sucks in all of them. my battery decreases about 2%/minute with ANDROID system being the most battery hug in battery details, in ever rom i use since couple of months back.
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This is annoying.
Anyone has any idea?

Azar_98 said:
i guess this is bcz of the phone itself not the battery. couple of yrs ago i had a nokia 5800, and after 6 months of use, it started to lose charge. even without using it it would stay for slightly more than 1 hour. i got it to repair center, and they tested out with new batteries, etc, and still they couldnt solve it so they exchanged it with N8. i sugges you to take it to the repair shop before the warranty ends if it hasnt ended yet. or should get a replacement unit. my s4 has 2 years of warranty btw. i also need to visit the repair shop some time.
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hhhhhhh well, the warranty has already expired, but even if I had one, I couldn't get it to a repair center to fulfill my warranty, because, well, I'm rooted
Well, when the phone isn't in use, it won't lose almost much at all... It was always when the screen is on, for some reason.... The weird thing is, that I can't see anything out of the ordinary in BBS/Wakelock Detector/Battery section on settings....
Weird......

Azar_98 said:
Here in Qatar they're too stupid for everything so all I need to do is install a UAE official kitkat without rooting and then giving them. Also this year on may, a hardware-wise problem happened to my Xperia tab z, and it wasn't booting up at all. I knew it was nothing to do with software, it was a hardware failure so they replaced it and it was rooted. However since jt wasnt booting up they had no way to check root. Idk if I've been cursed at or something, every device of mine needs to go to repair at least once in its lifetime. I have recently bought an HP laptop and now the screen doesn't turn off when I close the lid, it doesn't even detect the lid at all. This also hardware wise...
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Replacing is not an option for me as I have no extra money to spend right now, while I can't send it to Samsung center and claim for warranty as my warranty has expired already...
No other solutions?

try a 10.000 mAh ZeroLemon battery.
i have it and it's amazing, i get around 20 hours of screen on time :good:

dancapitan said:
try a 10.000 mAh ZeroLemon battery.
i have it and it's amazing, i get around 20 hours of screen on time :good:
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Hhhhhhh no thx man, I don't want to carry a tank in my pocket....

raied115 said:
Hhhhhhh no thx man, I don't want to carry a tank in my pocket....
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Can you give us more specific info about what's using your battery?
Install BetterBatteryStats and send some screenshots, this is an extreme problem I can tell. There must be something keeping your phone in full power all the time.
How hot is your device? Believe it or not, the battery gets affected extremely by heat since it Lithium-ion.
What apps do you have installed? Apps like Facebook and similar will cause consumption.
There's a lot of things that affect the battery.

BunnyPig said:
Can you give us more specific info about what's using your battery?
Install BetterBatteryStats and send some screenshots, this is an extreme problem I can tell. There must be something keeping your phone in full power all the time.
How hot is your device? Believe it or not, the battery gets affected extremely by heat since it Lithium-ion.
What apps do you have installed? Apps like Facebook and similar will cause consumption.
There's a lot of things that affect the battery.
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Take a look at these.
I, personally, can't see anything special. Do you?

According do those screenshots you have excellent battery life! I don't even get half of that. The screen of your note 3 takes up lots of power. What I can suggest is to change you max Cpu frequency to 1490mhz and go for the intellidemand governor. The snapdragon 800 is powerful enough to run smoothly with that frequency. Try it and report back if it did any changes.

BunnyPig said:
According do those screenshots you have excellent battery life! I don't even get half of that. The screen of your note 3 takes up lots of power. What I can suggest is to change you max Cpu frequency to 1490mhz and go for the intellidemand governor. The snapdragon 800 is powerful enough to run smoothly with that frequency. Try it and report back if it did any changes.
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Thanks for the reply!
It wasn't like that... it was more!
But as I wrote, it's a N900, so I have the Exynos, does the frequency you suggested will change?
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raied115 said:
Thanks for the reply!
It wasn't like that... it was more!
But as I wrote, it's a N900, so I have the Exynos, does the frequency you suggested will change?
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Oh right! I'm sorry, I missed that part. But just try to underclock your CPU a little bit and you should see a increase in battery life. Just try whatever frequency you want, the only thing that might happen is a slow device (you basically can't break the phone with underclocking, in fact, it's better for the CPU). Remember to change your governor to Intellidemand or Intellimand (can't remember the exact name).

BunnyPig said:
Oh right! I'm sorry, I missed that part. But just try to underclock your CPU a little bit and you should see a increase in battery life. Just try whatever frequency you want, the only thing that might happen is a slow device (you basically can't break the phone with underclocking, in fact, it's better for the CPU). Remember to change your governor to Intellidemand or Intellimand (can't remember the exact name).
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I don't think that there are working custom kernel for the 5.0 N900... shame there's almost no more development for our phone..
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i have this same **** problem

Ok, even with two new batteries and a few battery cycles with them, the percentage won't stabilize... Today the battery ran down to zero, and the phone continued to run (on 0%) for about 20 min..............
After replacing the battery, I was on 100%, dialed *#0228# and did the "RUN TEST" and the percentage went down to 23%. Dialed again and it went up to 82% and charged it. I can't seem to find a godda** solution for this problem!
What can I do to solve this?!!

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I bought New gt-i9505 And Battery emptied quickly Even when it is in sleep mode

Hi,I bought New gt-i9505 And Battery emptied quickly Even when it is in sleep mode Please Help Me

Are you sure it is new? Cuz that battery doesn't seem new to me.

GDReaper said:
Are you sure it is new? Cuz that battery doesn't seem new to me.
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yes im sure maybe battery is not original

souverain said:
yes im sure maybe battery is not original
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New phones don't come with fake batteries.
And even fake batteries should work normal for a few months.
Put it on a flat table and try to spin it. If it spins, the battery is bulged and bad.

GDReaper said:
New phones don't come with fake batteries.
And even fake batteries should work normal for a few months.
Put it on a flat table and try to spin it. If it spins, the battery is bulged and bad.
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the battery look like original and it is not spins ,how can i know if my battery original or fake

souverain said:
the battery look like original and it is not spins ,how can i know if my battery original or fake
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It is hard to tell. Usually fake batteries don't have an NFC antenna. That means that NFC will peobably not work on your device if the battery is fake.

do touchwiz roms suffer with wakelocks ?

3mel said:
do touchwiz roms suffer with wakelocks ?
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i dont know im new in android

GDReaper said:
It is hard to tell. Usually fake batteries don't have an NFC antenna. That means that NFC will peobably not work on your device if the battery is fake.
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how can i check the battery by NFC.....

Try to transfer files using NFC.

How to change your battery capacity

(Must be rooted)
Use Root Explorer or Equivalent.
(Can adb or command pull/ push with line if your know how inside twrp or on pc)
DIRECTORY: /etc/floating_feature.xml
Open it and Scroll or search until you see the capacity String value ...
Change it to the MAH of your desired battery.
Disclaimer: Any edits being made to batteries, charge speeds, % values, etc , can cause fires,
Do these at your own risk.

What is the purpose of this?
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Theoretically, to make use of a larger capacity battery or else it'll show the same stock capacity regardless of it's real capacity.
Now I don't know how it is For S7/Edge or Samsung devices but I previously owned several HTC devices. The last I had was One S and it could accomodate the battery from One XL (same size but bigger capacity). Many have tried and replaced it but even the new capacity was shown correctly, phone wasn't using it at full. After researches it came out that, for effectively using a bigger capacity battery it was needed a new kernel compiled to make use of the new battery capacity.
My point is that, you might need that as well here and I really doubt that anyone can compile from source a kernel for Exynos that can contain such changes as I know that sources are proprietary not open. You might fit a bigger capacity battery but it could be that you won't benefit from it's increased size
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I agree
Rapier said:
Theoretically, to make use of a larger capacity battery or else it'll show the same stock capacity regardless of it's real capacity.
Now I don't know how it is For S7/Edge or Samsung devices but I previously owned several HTC devices. The last I had was One S and it could accomodate the battery from One XL (same size but bigger capacity). Many have tried and replaced it but even the new capacity was shown correctly, phone wasn't using it at full. After researches it came out that, for effectively using a bigger capacity battery it was needed a new kernel compiled to make use of the new battery capacity.
My point is that, you might need that as well here and I really doubt that anyone can compile from source a kernel for Exynos that can contain such changes as I know that sources are proprietary not open. You might fit a bigger capacity battery but it could be that you won't benefit from it's increased size
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There are reference files in the kernel ...
They reference battery capacity...
They are based off of a capacity % value
Basically an of/if command ... so in theory...
(Update: the theory was correct)
And a framework.res edit did suffice.
The file inside of framework-res res/xml/power_profile.xml
referenced a 3600mah battery ...
And the purpose of this is of course...
an aftermarket , fully synced , and properly programmed battery @ larger capacity 4200mah
To track all stats natively in any android rom

I use my device pretty heavy with it....
Background youtube, pandora, games, etc...
Stock S7 edge kernel/boot.img , modified build.prop (TeKHd Rom)
Also calibrated battery after changing the capacity values
battery life report...

Yamaha169 said:
I use my device pretty heavy with this 4200 mah...
Background youtube, pandora, games, etc...
Stock S7 edge kernel/boot.img , modified build.prop (TeKHd Rom)
Also calibrated battery after changing the capacity values
But heres a battery life report...
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omg how the hell did you manage to change for a bigger battery? can you explain? how and which one you bought? any links?

Vivacity said:
how and which one you bought?
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http://m.ebay.com/itm/4200mAh-High-Capacity-Gold-Replacement-Battery-for-Samsung-Galaxy-S7-Edge-NEW-/322221470195?hash=item4b05e571f3:g:jxsAAOSw9NdXqR3o

Yamaha169 said:
The guide to do so is explain in the images/ guide earlier in these pages...
The link to buy a battery like mine is
http://m.ebay.com/itm/4200mAh-High-...470195?hash=item4b05e571f3:g:jxsAAOSw9NdXqR3o
You will also need tools to do so... (watch youtube for a guide on the hardware change)
Once you have your battery installed... you need to be rooted to make the edits... there are two references you need to change (in images i posted)
After the edits... run your battery 99% dead... do a calibration (apk on app store can do this)
Then let it die.. charge it to 100% while the device is off
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But can you really trust a 4200mah for 15 dollars?

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anaya1213 said:
But can you really trust a 4200mah for 15 dollars?
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This is my second time purchasing the same aftermarket battery... first time I installed it into a G928A (s6 edge plus)
Now ive installed it in this device... ive gone several months without seeing charge/discharge loss...
But heres the next question... say... you go through 2 batteries a year... 15$ each....
Would that not be worth the extra phone on time anyways?

Yamaha169 said:
This is my second time purchasing the same aftermarket battery... first time I installed it into a G928A (s6 edge plus)
Now ive installed it in this device... ive gone several months without seeing charge/discharge loss...
But heres the next question... say... you go through 2 batteries a year... 15$ each....
Would that not be worth the extra phone on time anyways?
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Fair enough, but how do you really know it's 4200mah instead of the regular 3600mah?

After the Note 7 fiasco, people tend to be more careful about aftermarket batteries.
My question regarding this modification ist: Is the phone still waterproof after opening the case?
i guess no...

Eezay said:
After the Note 7 fiasco, people tend to be more careful about aftermarket batteries.
My question regarding this modification ist: Is the phone still waterproof after opening the case?
i guess no...
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I would guess no also, as the glue sealing everything together is disturbed

Eezay said:
After the Note 7 fiasco, people tend to be more careful about aftermarket batteries.
My question regarding this modification ist: Is the phone still waterproof after opening the case?
i guess no...
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Any battery lithium... copper core... can overheat and cause what happened to the 7 line...
And this device claims to be water "resistant" ... but people were testing new units and ruining cameras... so...
I went with a ghostek atomic 2.0 case ...

Agreed... no matter how good you cut the adhesive
ingram10 said:
I would guess no also, as the glue sealing everything together is disturbed
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They do make the adheasive with backglass replacement... but im content with my device ...
Longer batter... no overheating issues (2nd phone using them)
After doing the edits and the battery swap with the battery sync... big gains..
I Would Do this Experiment Again

Update...
Batterylife update...

Yamaha169 said:
The guide to do so is explain in the images/ guide earlier in these pages...
The link to buy a battery like mine is
http://m.ebay.com/itm/4200mAh-High-...470195?hash=item4b05e571f3:g:jxsAAOSw9NdXqR3o
You will also need tools to do so... (watch youtube for a guide on the hardware change)
Once you have your battery installed... you need to be rooted to make the edits... there are two references you need to change (in images i posted)
After the edits... run your battery 99% dead... do a calibration (apk on app store can do this)
Then let it die.. charge it to 100% while the device is off
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Did you even found bigger aftermarket batteries? And did you ever tried to test the battery and his capacity before implementing them? I often have the feeling they are faking the written numbers on it

twinko said:
Did you even found bigger aftermarket batteries? And did you ever tried to test the battery and his capacity before implementing them? I often have the feeling they are faking their values.
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you can break out ohms law and calculate power
( find something that runs off the same voltage , and run the tests yourself for discharge rate @ hours )

Yamaha169 said:
Well, to me... thats arguing a moot point...
Thats like asking me how i know im getting a gallon of gas at the pump.
But... the evidence is in the calculation of the user ... because there are FAR too many variables ...
There are applications that track power loss by MAH (mili-amp hour) if you use over the stock MAH rating... it would have a larger storage capacity.
Or you can break out ohms law and calculate power , disect this battery and beat your head against a post ..
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im sorry my english isn't that good but i think the capacity of this battery is not related to the user nor there are many variables.
Probably i didnt used the right words but what i was asking for is for example:
Connect the battery to a constant current load and measure the time it takes to discharge the battery to a certain voltage.
Capacity in Ah = Current in Amperes * Time in hours​
that would give a good overview of the real capacity without using a fishy app or harassing a post

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Yamaha169 said:
If it comes down to having to buy another one... then yea.. ill run that test ..
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sounds great and lets see how long your battery needs to be replaced. really interested to do the same.