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I'm having somewhat higher than expected idle drain. After 7 hours of sleep, my battery has drained down to 93% from a full charge. The last Android I owned was the HTC One M7, and then had the iPhone 6 and the 6S the past 1.5 years and neither of the phones experienced this high of idle drain. Always on display and night clock are disabled.
I enabled aggressive doze mode within Greenify (I did not hibernate any apps) and also turned on notifications for when and how long doze was activated for. Even after 7 hours of laying flat on the table next to my bed, nothing. In my week of owning this phone, I've only ever seen the doze notification from Greenify ONCE, and it only dozed for ~3 minutes within the hour of laying still.
Screenshot of battery usage overnight (plus some use during breakfast) and also the Greenify settings. Surprise, high Android System use.
http://imgur.com/a/kxRYj
Does anyone else feel that the doze feature of Android 6.0 is not working as intended on the S7?
ranova said:
I'm having somewhat higher than expected idle drain. After 7 hours of sleep, my battery has drained down to 93% from a full charge. The last Android I owned was the HTC One M7, and then had the iPhone 6 and the 6S the past 1.5 years and neither of the phones experienced this high of idle drain.
I enabled aggressive doze mode within Greenify and also turned on notifications for when and how long doze was activated for. Even after 7 hours of laying flat on the table next to my bed, nothing. In my week of owning this phone, I've only ever seen the doze notification from Greenify ONCE, and it only dozed for ~3 minutes within the hour of laying still.
Screenshot of battery usage overnight (plus some use during breakfast) and also the Greenify settings. Surprise, high Android System use.
http://imgur.com/a/kxRYj
Does anyone else feel that the doze feature of Android 6.0 is not working as intended on the S7?
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Have you tried without Greenify? On my 6P I found that having Greenify active actually drained more battery than having it inactive... Not sure why though.
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Delboyd12 said:
Have you tried without Greenify? On my 6P I found that having Greenify active actually drained more battery than having it inactive... Not sure why though.
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I'll disable greenify tonight and test it out. FYI, I'm not hibernating any apps. I just installed greenify to enable aggressive Doze mode
Aggressive doze is an experimental feature, it may just not detect doze correctly, because of changes made by Samsung and just eat more juice by checking and trying to trigger doze. But that's just a wild guess.
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Doesn't it need root for aggressive doze? I've also had problems on my 6P with Greenify and other doze-modification apps actually causing more harm than good, causing doze not to initialize.
geoff5093 said:
Doesn't it need root for aggressive doze? I've also had problems on my 6P with Greenify and other doze-modification apps actually causing more harm than good, causing doze not to initialize.
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No, Aggressive doze in Greenify doesnt need root.
I tested last night by disabling Tmobile apps, FB Messenger, and Pushbullet and aggressive doze worked!
This morning I reenabled FB Messenger and Pushbullet and left the Tmobile apps disabled - Doze still activated. I reenabled tmobile - doze did not activate.
TLDR: I believe Tmobile app is causing crazy wakelocks and doze will not activate.
If you want to test this, install Greenify, enable aggressive doze mode and notifications. Start off by keeping tmobile app enabled. Let your phone sit on a desk for 10 minutes, see theres any Doze notification.
ranova said:
If you want to test this, install Greenify, enable aggressive doze mode and notifications. Start off by keeping tmobile app enabled. Let your phone sit on a desk for 10 minutes, see theres any Doze notification.
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Mine will doze with the T-Mobile app active, but I also have pr.adapt active, I read that if you disable it, and have the T-Mobile app active, you may have issues.
I will try disabling both. but I got 22 dose cycles today totaling 5hr 31min, with both active today.
vr002sh said:
I will try disabling both. but I got 22 dose cycles today totaling 5hr 31min, with both active today.
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How do you know you got 22 cycles with Samsungs crappy battery visualizations?
Greenify messes up the doze function big time.
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AmesCell said:
How do you know you got 22 cycles with Samsungs crappy battery visualizations?
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Dont use Sammys battery visualization. I use GSAM, under the wake locks you can see the Doze sessions and under the graphs it shows as well.
vr002sh said:
Dont use Sammys battery visualization. I use GSAM, under the wake locks you can see the Doze sessions and under the graphs it shows as well.
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GSAM looks good. Thanks.
Greenify definitely forces the phone into the doze mode and it works. From my testing, it definitely activates doze mode more often than not. Aside from installing Greenify, i haven't played with any of the settings aside from turning Aggressive doze mode on. One thing i have noticed is that if you use AOD or Night Mode, the phone won't go into doze mode, with or without Greenify. I have verified with GSam. Hopefully its a bug cause otherwise those 2 functions are useless unless you have the phone plugged in. Hope this post helps.
vr002sh said:
Dont use Sammys battery visualization. I use GSAM, under the wake locks you can see the Doze sessions and under the graphs it shows as well.
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If my samsung devices isn't root, will i see the doze sessions in GSAM ?
So throughout the work day my battery life was absolutely stellar, amazing.
But, I took my phone off charge at ~95% last night at around midnight. Woke up at ~6:45am and it was down to like 75%-78% don't remember specifically.
Everyone else is saying their phone doesn't lose more than like 35 overnight but mine lost a crazy amount of battery.
The ONLY thing I can think of is that it had Netflix streaming to my Chromecast overnight but at the very worst it would have streamed two episodes, then stopped, then it would've stopped streaming to Chromecast entirely and just idled on my phone without playing video or anything.
Would that situation above cause a ~20% battery lose? It didn't seem like it to me based on my battery life throughout the previous day but I don't know .. I'll test again tonight and be sure to leave Netflix off and all that.
I get 0% drain over 8h(havent tested it for more than that), I leave the apps open but the connection off. think you have a app gone rough, check your battery stats whats taking up all the juce
johanbiff said:
I get 0% drain over 8h(havent tested it for more than that), I leave the apps open but the connection off. think you have a app gone rough, check your battery stats whats taking up all the juce
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Before I charged my phone just like a half hour ago, it said the battery usage was like .. 20-20% Android OS, 15%~ something else regarding Android, then 5% Netflix, 3% Reddit Sync, a few other apps with low percentages, nothing really hogging anything. Is it possible my phone just didn't go into sleep mode? Is there a system package that controls that, that my Samsung Package Disabler Pro may have disabled? Not too sure what happened. Hopefully it doesn't reoccur tonight.
Quick question: Should I even be using Greenify and manually hibernating apps or should I just wait for a ROM and THEN use it to automatically do that? I don't even know if constantly manually using Greenify is helping or hurting my battery lol.
thespr said:
Before I charged my phone just like a half hour ago, it said the battery usage was like .. 20-20% Android OS, 15%~ something else regarding Android, then 5% Netflix, 3% Reddit Sync, a few other apps with low percentages, nothing really hogging anything. Is it possible my phone just didn't go into sleep mode? Is there a system package that controls that, that my Samsung Package Disabler Pro may have disabled? Not too sure what happened. Hopefully it doesn't reoccur tonight.
Quick question: Should I even be using Greenify and manually hibernating apps or should I just wait for a ROM and THEN use it to automatically do that? I don't even know if constantly manually using Greenify is helping or hurting my battery lol.
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You are having the same problem that everybody with the sd820 version has I presume, you should not use greenify with doze from what I've heard. Try clearing your cashe.
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You are having the same problem that everybody with the sd820 version has I presume, you should not use greenify with doze from what I've heard. Try clearing your cashe.
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So I should just uninstall Greenify then?
Is Doze something that's just built into the S7 itself that after a certain period of time it puts the phone to sleep? Maybe Greenify was interfering with that and my phone never actually went to sleep?
thespr said:
So I should just uninstall Greenify then?
Is Doze something that's just built into the S7 itself that after a certain period of time it puts the phone to sleep? Maybe Greenify was interfering with that and my phone never actually went to sleep?
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Yeah. You don't need it, use the built in doze feat instead.. you can turn it off in setting->battery->information. There you will see a on/off switch. Your problem could be Greenify yes.
johanbiff said:
Yeah. You don't need it, use the built in doze feat instead.. you can turn it off in setting->battery->information. There you will see a on/off switch. Your problem could be Greenify yes.
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I don't see an option for Doze in the battery screen. I see options for Power Saving Mode, Ultra Power Saving Mode, Fast Cable Charging, Show Battery Percentage, then if I hit "more" in the upper right, it just says "Refresh" and "Optimize Battery Usage."
Thanks again!
thespr said:
I don't see an option for Doze in the battery screen. I see options for Power Saving Mode, Ultra Power Saving Mode, Fast Cable Charging, Show Battery Percentage, then if I hit "more" in the upper right, it just says "Refresh" and "Optimize Battery Usage."
Thanks again!
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Here are some pics.
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Here are some pics.
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I don't have that button at all :/
I see the battery usage graph, then below that is a list of what apps took up how much percentage, and above the graph is everything I said in the last post.
I have the North American Verizon S7 Edge .. not sure what's going on. Is there a system package that Doze runs off of that might be disabled by my package disabler?
I just read another thread on another forum where other people don't see an option for Doze anywhere either.
thespr said:
I don't have that button at all :/
I see the battery usage graph, then below that is a list of what apps took up how much percentage, and above the graph is everything I said in the last post.
I have the North American Verizon S7 Edge .. not sure what's going on. Is there a system package that Doze runs off of that might be disabled by my package disabler?
I just read another thread on another forum where other people don't see an option for Doze anywhere either.
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You are one step forward, go one back from the stats and graph
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You are one step forward, go one back from the stats and graph
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When I tap "Battery" from the settings menu that's the screen it takes me to, there isn't a screen before it for me :/
thespr said:
When I tap "Battery" from the settings menu that's the screen it takes me to, there isn't a screen before it for me :/
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What?! that's really weird.. but either way, turn off Greenify and see if it is better.. Can't help you more than that I'm afraid:/
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What?! that's really weird.. but either way, turn off Greenify and see if it is better.. Can't help you more than that I'm afraid:/
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Yeah it seems like the phone is just using an app-specific optimization program instead of Doze or something, no clue. I have options to optimize apps for the lowest possible battery consumption and that's automatically on for basically every app, but there isn't a single hint of Doze or a screen before the battery graph screen.. weird.
I uninstalled Greenify so hopefully that will fix it.
Hopefully there isn't a system package for doze that I have disabled, I scrolled through everything I disabled and nothing had much to do with Doze, battery consumption, power, energy, etc.
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Yeah it seems like the phone is just using an app-specific optimization program instead of Doze or something, no clue. I have options to optimize apps for the lowest possible battery consumption and that's automatically on for basically every app, but there isn't a single hint of Doze or a screen before the battery graph screen.. weird.
I uninstalled Greenify so hopefully that will fix it.
Hopefully there isn't a system package for doze that I have disabled, I scrolled through everything I disabled and nothing had much to do with Doze, battery consumption, power, energy, etc.
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Samsung built in doze combining there own style on it so what you are seeing is the doze. Just leave everything on auto and your fine.
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Samsung built in doze combining there own style on it so what you are seeing is the doze.
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Ahhh okay so now Doze is just something automatically always running without options? That's a relief. Now I'm convinced Greenify may have been the issue.
thespr said:
Ahhh okay so now Doze is just something automatically always running without options? That's a relief. Now I'm convinced Greenify may have been the issue.
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You can shut it off for specific apps with the slider. Seems like I have one added option to don't use it on or off on my sw that you do not. but you can disable doze for apps with the slider, but just leave it on auto and it will fix it for ya
Yep lose 1% in 10 hour sleep wifi off all apps open
Must've been Greenify interfering with the built-in Doze (or app-optimization for SD820 variants).
Turned AOD off, uninstalled Greenify, last night battery went from 99% to 98%.
This seems to be an on and off problem. I primarily use Kik Messenger for communication. Wifi is set to Always On and I am connected to wifi throughout the day.
I have been getting delayed notifications, sometimes upwards of 20 minutes after it was sent. Once I unlock the device, the notification comes in. I've checked Greenify, Amplify, and Doze settings, nothing should be limiting Kik. I have it set Not Optimzed in Doze settings. I had it "fixed" a few weeks ago by removing the net_schedular wakelock limiter in Amplify, but the delayed notifications have started up again even though it is not limited.
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This seems to be an on and off problem. I primarily use Kik Messenger for communication. Wifi is set to Always On and I am connected to wifi throughout the day.
I have been getting delayed notifications, sometimes upwards of 20 minutes after it was sent. Once I unlock the device, the notification comes in. I've checked Greenify, Amplify, and Doze settings, nothing should be limiting Kik. I have it set Not Optimzed in Doze settings. I had it "fixed" a few weeks ago by removing the net_schedular wakelock limiter in Amplify, but the delayed notifications have started up again even though it is not limited.
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+1 for whatsapp
I have WhatsApp that I use for certain contacts, but others use Kik.
So I need solutions for Kik instead of a recommendation for another app, please.
Doze ≠ battery optimization, you cannot really configure Doze.
My guess is, that Doze "kicks in", hence delayed messages.
Hi.
Running stock Marshmallow, with root and used wakelock detector and battery monitor to find that when not in airplane mode, three kernel wake locks (see screen shots) as far as I can tell, seem to be causing my phone to stay awake all the time and hence use battery.
I also use Greenify BTW.
How do I remedy this?
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Im333
I had the same issue. I found out that it was because I had blocked a Bluetooth wake service and it freaked the phone out keeping it awake. I would suggest enabling each service you disabled one by one going through them to find out which one is causing your issue. Or you can uninstall greenify and any other apps that disable services like amplify and servicely. I found that my battery life had gotten better after doing so.
What steps do you guys take to optimize battery life without compromising any performance?
I'm on NMF26O, Franco R6, TWRP, root
Greenify
Wifi & Bluetooth off when not in use
Brightness low
Do you leave adaptive brightness, screen saver or ambient display on?
Install Greenify as a system App (System/Priv-App) and it will work as Root + Privilaged Mode ( make sure to change the permissions to -777)
Doze in my opinion isn't nearly as optimized to my liking so I go ahead and install Doze Settings Editor and change some of the parameters.
I have doze start as soon as I hit the power button and disable motion so nothing wakes it up. I have it wake up every 30 min and then go back to sleep.
Just waiting on Xposed so I can use other mods to further reduce drain. I remember at some point I would get a 1% battery drain on my old HTC M7.
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Install Greenify as a system App (System/Priv-App) and it will work as Root + Privilaged Mode ( make sure to change the permissions to -777)
Doze in my opinion isn't nearly as optimized to my liking so I go ahead and install Doze Settings Editor and change some of the parameters.
I have doze start as soon as I hit the power button and disable motion so nothing wakes it up. I have it wake up every 30 min and then go back to sleep.
Just waiting on Xposed so I can use other mods to further reduce drain. I remember at some point I would get a 1% battery drain on my old HTC M7.
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What is the benefit of giving it privileged mode?https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/greenify/privileged-mode-compatible-root-mode-t3509898/page4
I just downloaded Naptime to take advantage of doze
I don't need to. This phone has gotten me through a full day, every day so far. I don't do any crazy heavy gaming, but constant 5+ hours of SON, and still about 5-10% left when I go to bed at night.
Yep, same here. 5 hours is the average SoT it seems, that is with half an hour or more gaming. Franco kernel I have heard takes care of the unnecessary battery usage. I never used battery savings modules like Greenify and sorts, and no way I am gonna install them on this phone.