I have now run across several 6p users who are part of the Android beta program who have not received the OTA security patch for September. I'm curious if this is just random or if there is a trend to be found here. So, if you are on the developer preview program, have you received your security patch yet?
locke340 said:
I have now run across several 6p users who are part of the Android beta program who have not received the OTA security patch for September. I'm curious if this is just random or if there is a trend to be found here. So, if you are on the developer preview program, have you received your security patch yet?
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Seriously? First, Nougat OTA was only released a couple weeks ago, so I'd expect the earliest security patch to be October. Second, since there is all kinds of speculation about the full Nougat factory image not being released (hardware, software, something special when Google makes their Pixel announcement), they aren't going to get multiple OTA security releases ahead on their flagship device, for which they haven't even put out a full factory image yet.
It's a simple question, the September security patch did go live 2 days ago, so it is not a question of if it coming, it is a specific question about 6p users on the developer preview program. Not even a serious one, I'm just curious.
No update here
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Well, that's it guys & girls.
I bought this tablet new 6 days ago and today the big G issued their September security update, and there's no love for the N7 2013 :/
I wasn't expecting Nougat but their site did say updates until July next year I think. Oh well. It's still a great device.
I assume it's not possible/too much work for someone to take on creating security otas from other devices?
Wait a few days. They've supported everything else through the guaranteed time for them thus far. (Maybe they are going to surprise us and throw Nouget at us......I doubt it, but it was dead simple to port and mostly works)
^No if they stick to what they say we are done: https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/4457705?hl=en
We are obviously over 3 years since release and are also over 18 months since it was removed from the store.
Going by that link we were lucky to get M as that was over 2 years.
Honestly it doesn't matter to me that Google stopped supporting the 2013 Nexus 7, even though it's three years old it still performs extremely well for it's aged hardware. I'd love to know whether or not the rumored 2016 Pixel tablet is an actual thing...
I see factory images for other devices containing the september 6 2016 security patches but not for the nexus 7 2013. So it looks like I will have to migrate to another rom in order to have my device secure.
martinknl said:
I see factory images for other devices containing the september 6 2016 security patches but not for the nexus 7 2013. So it looks like I will have to migrate to another rom in order to have my device secure.
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But they won't work for this device if they're for another device, right?
I wonder how difficult it would be to create N7 patches from patches released for, say, N6 etc?
martinknl said:
I see factory images for other devices containing the september 6 2016 security patches but not for the nexus 7 2013. So it looks like I will have to migrate to another rom in order to have my device secure.
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Don't worry, nobody is going to hack your lousy 90$ tablet.
Bingley said:
But they won't work for this device if they're for another device, right?
I wonder how difficult it would be to create N7 patches from patches released for, say, N6 etc?
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I am assuming that other nexus 7 2013 roms (AOSP/Cyanogenmod/etc) do incorporate the latest security patches. It is just google that has stopped creating and pushing images to our devices.
martinknl said:
I am assuming that other nexus 7 2013 roms (AOSP/Cyanogenmod/etc) do incorporate the latest security patches. It is just google that has stopped creating and pushing images to our devices.
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Correct
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Nexus 5 just received the October update. Since the N7 2013 was released at the same time, I'm hoping it'll get an update as well.
cm official nightly just updated to cm14 (nougat) today for flo. (2013 Wi-Fi)
https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=flo&type=nightly
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Although I've lost track of when exactly they were pushed out by Lenovorola, I seem to recall my MotoX PE getting a November, then February, security patch and the "latest" May 2016 was pushed around July 20th... If that pattern (pushing out every 3rd Google release ~ 10 weeks later) holds true, might we see the August patch pushed later this month? Or will any more 6.0 patches be skipped in light of the future 7.x upgrade (whenever that may be)?
One of the reasons why I'm sticking with CM. they are on Oct. 5th security patch while the normal stock ROM is far behind
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Greatness83 said:
One of the reasons why I'm sticking with CM. they are on Oct. 5th security patch while the normal stock ROM is far behind
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I hear you... One of the reasons I bought a Nexus 5X in June when the price dropped. But looking at my MotoX since then reminds me it's otherwise a better phone imho (VoLTE works fine for me on TMo).
Question: I assume you had to unlock your bootloader to root and run CM ? If so, can you relock in that state? I had to unroot and flash stock multiple times before I was finally able to relock... I could be completely wrong, but I would think the benefit of timely, monthly security updates is outweighed by an unlocked bootloader and root access?
According to a twitter reply from Moto Support, they ditched even the quarterly security update.
" We're implementing essential patches.As new security issues emerge, we will evaluate them and update your phone as needed.-Maya"
Evaluating, means they may or may not release security patches so do not hold your breath for an August updated. Yet, Moto Support on twitter was very quick to reply the first inquiry. I encourage everyone to contact them with questions @Moto_Support Let them know or demands!
We're 8 days from December, but the Nov update still has not been pushed to my 6P. The device had been on the beta program, but I un-enrolled it in October. Currently on Android 7.0. My Nexus & Pixel devices have never been delayed this long.
i got mine a while ago. Bell canada
NWTSCL said:
We're 8 days from December, but the Nov update still has not been pushed to my 6P. The device had been on the beta program, but I un-enrolled it in October. Currently on Android 7.0. My Nexus & Pixel devices have never been delayed this long.
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When you opt out of the beta program it won't push any OTA updates. You have to side load it via ADB. If you stay you can just wait for the public release that will come via OTA even when you're opt into the beta program. That's all from what I've been reading when I couldn't figure out why I haven't been getting updates.
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Or unlock bootloader and flash images manually every month. Then root. Then become a flash junky!!!
krntehknik303 said:
When you opt out of the beta program it won't push any OTA updates. You have to side load it via ADB. If you stay you can just wait for the public release that will come via OTA even when you're opt into the beta program. That's all from what I've been reading when I couldn't figure out why I haven't been getting updates.
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I opted out because I didn't want 7.1 yet. Seems bizarre that it will no longer push if you opt out. Almost like Google stabbing you in the back, leaving you exposed to whatever security problems are later patched.
Doesn't it seem odd slow updates from Google they patched they official 8.0 builds with the security patches but have left 8.1 alone. I heard there was supposed to be a new build at the end of the month and is mainly due to some features in the pixel 2s their also going to release a new build for all the pixels.. however it seems like they held back the security patch in 8.1 due to putting it in this new build..
I don't recall them ever doing security updates on Dev previews.
Something must be going on. They removed the timetable for dev preview. It showed 2nd preview middle of november, but today it's gone.
mikaole said:
Something must be going on. They removed the timetable for dev preview. It showed 2nd preview middle of november, but today it's gone.
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Still showing an update for some point in November....
https://developer.android.com/preview/overview.html
I know Nexus 6P won't receive Android P but I was wondering: will this mean a complete stop to security updates as soon as P is released or there's still some time with security updates guaranteed by Google?
Looks like the updates for the Nexus 6P will end with either the October or November monthly security updates. https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/4457705?hl=en#nexus_devices
Are the Lineage builds available reasonably updated as far as security patches are concerned? Or would I be better off buying a new phone (something I'd avoid if possible, 6P is still doing all I bought it for)?