Benchmark 4 GPU - Xperia Z5 Compact General

How come Z5 compact even faster from S7?
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Dunno what this test measures, but Adreno 430 in Snapdragon 810 is one of the fastest smartphone GPUs even in 2016. Combine that with low resolution screen (4x less pixels than Galaxy S7) and you get those results.

Because 720p
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you are right!
also in GFXbench result are even X2 FPS!
even sometimes faster from X performance (Andreno 530!)
there's some advantage in 720P i guess..

Thanks to the ****ty screen resolution you get excellent scores.
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[Q] 75 FPS score?

I've been watching the preview video @ AndroidCentral I think they have covered the phone quite well.
There Neocore test show a score of 75 FPS - that 20 FPS more than the Samsung SGS/Vibrant.
Since the Samsung SGS/Vibrant comes with a PowerVR SGX 540 chipset (Device Magazine) which is the best out there along with 1GHz ARM Cortex A8 processor - whereas the Droid Pro comes with a PowerVR SGX 530 chipset (Motorola Developer site) how comes this baby is giving out a much better FPS rate?
Would like to hear your experienced views on this!
If you compare it the D2/D2G, DX, and Milestone 2 you will notice that the DP performance is better that those devices despite the same cpu/gpu combo(but less internal memory). So, from what I am reading most of it has to do with the lower HVGA screen vs the VGA screen of all aforementioned devices. Lower screen res means less work for the gpu.
Mackattack said:
If you compare it the D2/D2G, DX, and Milestone 2 you will notice that the DP performance is better that those devices despite the same cpu/gpu combo(but less internal memory). So, from what I am reading most of it has to do with the lower HVGA screen vs the VGA screen of all aforementioned devices. Lower screen res means less work for the gpu.
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This makes so much sense for improving battery life and plus what's the point on using such high res screens whereas the human eye can perceive only 200dpi.
Just a thought!
Personally I agree. It really makes me mad that I saw all these rave reviews on the Samsung Galaxy S phone's screens, but me personally I can't tell a difference between my Fascinate and my DPro, other than the fact the screen is smaller.
Maybe its time for me to see the eye doctor.
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Found galaxy s3!

Hi i have found galaxy S3! here are the details:
CPU: Exynos 4212 1.4Ghz (my note has Exynos 4210)
Memory: 1GB RAM
Screen Size: 4.7inches
Resolution: 1280x720
Camera: front camera 2MP and Rear camera 12MP
System: Android OS 4.0
Name: (of course) Galaxy S III
here are the details of the mobile with the pics as i saw them on the antutu benchmark results while i was checking my Note's results.
how is it slower than the S2..
Lol you mean to say once we get official ICS on Note our phablet will be on top of the table with S3
DaRkMyk said:
how is it slower than the S2..
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man look at the last screen shot. it THE FASTEST!!! and F*** S2 my note beats that!
sangalaviral said:
Lol you mean to say once we get official ICS on Note our phablet will be on top of the table with S3
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no i dont think thats gonna happen but yeah note will retain the third position (at least on antutu lol )
aami.aami said:
Hi i have found galaxy S3! here are the details:
CPU: Exynos 4212 1.4Ghz (my note has Exynos 4210)
Memory: 1GB RAM
Screen Size: 4.7inches
Resolution: 1280x720
Camera: front camera 2MP and Rear camera 12MP
System: Android OS 4.0
Name: (of course) Galaxy S III
here are the details of the mobile with the pics as i saw them on the antutu benchmark results while i was checking my Note's results.
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Wow - seems a lot of gullible fools actually fell for that one. What a load of BS.
aami.aami said:
Hi i have found galaxy S3! here are the details:
CPU: Exynos 4212 1.4Ghz (my note has Exynos 4210)
Memory: 1GB RAM
Screen Size: 4.7inches
Resolution: 1280x720
Camera: front camera 2MP and Rear camera 12MP
System: Android OS 4.0
Name: (of course) Galaxy S III
here are the details of the mobile with the pics as i saw them on the antutu benchmark results while i was checking my Note's results.
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emmm exynos 4212 has 1.5ghz and it is fake for sure, how quad core cpu can be slower then galaxy s2 with dual core 1.2ghz? no logic
Lol.. I think u all looking at the wrong pic..
The first pic is for his device..
Last pic is the galaxy s3 that show score higher than asus prime...
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Lol.. I think u all looking at the wrong pic..
The first pic is for his device..
Last pic is the galaxy s3 that show score higher than asus prime...
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So why the hell did he post the first pic if he doesn't have the s3? Just confuses everyone and noone gives a crap about his score.
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So why the hell did he post the first pic if he doesn't have the s3? Just confuses everyone and noone gives a crap about his score.
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Maybe want to show how he get that score
But still no individual score on antutu for s3.
Hope the note2 will dominate and use new 5xxx exynos with new mali gpu..
Saw new game with tegra3 and totally a whole lot new improvement..
Something very wrong...It shows Exynos 4212 and not 4412. 4212 is a dual core SoC, not quad-core.
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/news_10.html
Photoshop! What a loser
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This is OFFICIAL "Exynos" web site !
So if you will go to the products you will see:
Exynos 3 single 1Gz (Galaxy S, Nexus S.)
Exynos 4 dual 45nm 1.2-1.4Ghz (Meizu MX, SGSII , G-Note)
Exynos 4 dual 32nm 1.5Ghz (???)
Exynos 5 dual 2Ghz (???)
So I will get mad if SGSIII will be dual-core A15
These are the "supposed" S3 photos leaked from Taiwan NCC (the FCC equivalent in the US).
http://imgur.com/3uYjk
http://imgur.com/5NRlH
http://imgur.com/G3g99
http://imgur.com/T0sCa
Samsung had already announced officially that the GSIII will have the Exynos 4 quad core 4412.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/25/...exynos-4-quad-as-basis-for-galaxy-s3/?m=false
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sutekidane said:
These are the "supposed" S3 photos leaked from Taiwan NCC (the FCC equivalent in the US).
http://imgur.com/3uYjk
http://imgur.com/5NRlH
http://imgur.com/G3g99
http://imgur.com/T0sCa
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thats just Ugg lee !!!
Oha, bettEr stay with gnote
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DOGSofDOOM said:
Photoshop! What a loser
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its not photoshop.
run antutu, go into the bar charts. the galaxy s3 shows up there.
looks like samsung let the cat out of the bag.
edit: on mine it doesnt say 4212. it says 4x12, i'll upload the pics.
That's a major disappointment if those pics are true. The supposed ones from the ad agency were beautiful but this feels cheap.
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okie, i've attached the pics i see with my phone.
exynos 4x12 processor. screen res 1280x720. im assuming the camera thing is bugged, but it should be 2mp and 12mp.
edit: theres a pic of the s3 on there. dunno if its real or not, but its there. for some reason, it only shows the s3 in the list chart, and not in the bar chart. this means that we cant see whether or not the performance improvement over the asus transformer prime is because of the CPU optimisations or GPU.
edit 2: although this is not the exact way of determining the score, i've done a rough estimate of what the s3 scores based on the list view.
for my galaxy note, i score 6522 points in antutu, which roughly lines up with the galaxy note standard in the antutu bench. so if i count the amount of pixels in my bar using mspaint (line up the end of the bar with the edge of the work area and point my mouse at the end of the bar while zoomed in), i get 216 pixels.
so 6522 points / 216 pixels = 30.19444444 points per pixel.
now if you measure the length of the the galaxy s3 bar, its 402 pixels.
30.1944444 points per pixel = 12138.166666 points as the rough score for the galaxy s3 (give or take 30 points per pixel). thats pure awesome!

[General Discussion] Xperia SP

Sony is doing a pretty good job with optimizing software for their hardware. The xperia SP which has a dual core processor beats the xperia Z and the Zl and some other quadcore phones in benchmarks. I hope sony will make improvements to the xperia Z as well. The only thing sony needs to work on is their displays, the SP seems to have about the same level blacks as the Z and the contrast ratio is also very low.
Benchmarks: http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_sp-review-924p5.php
All this shows is... sony are very lazy with their 'flag ship' if a mid range phone can beat it in most tests....
kalo88 said:
All this shows is... sony are very lazy with their 'flag ship' if a mid range phone can beat it in most tests....
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No man, it's all because of that 720p resolution. Z have 1080p with the same GPU.
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According to the GSM arena review, the contrast ratio on the SP is better than Z. How could a mid-range phone has a better contrast than a flagship phone?
I can not understand why Sony does not use ips TFT
某龙兄 said:
I can not understand why Sony does not use ips TFT
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But it does (for the Xperia Z).
windozeanti said:
According to the GSM arena review, the contrast ratio on the SP is better than Z. How could a mid-range phone has a better contrast than a flagship phone?
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Sony have a habit of doing stuff like that though, when they released the Xperia T it was meant to be the flagship yet the V had certain features that were far better...
If you make a flagship it should be the BEST! of what you can do.. not parts of it.
Lets make things clear.
First of all, the Sony Xperia SP is indeed a fast phone, but not faster than de Z or ZL. The reason why the SP scores higher on some benchmarks is easy to explain. The SP has a 720p display, while the Z and ZL both have a 1080p display. That's about twice as many pixels to render. In the real benchmarks such as Antutu or Linpack, the Z and ZL clearly have their advantage.
Second of all the software on the Sony Xperia SP is probably more mature (albeit with two months) than the Z and ZL software. GSM Arena and other reviewers just benchmark their phones when they receive them, so probably with pre-release software. Since the SP basicly has the same platform, you can easily guess why some benchmarks on the SP are a bit higher. But when you will test with new software on the Z or ZL, the difference should be minimal.
Lastly, Sony uses IPS LCD on their phones. If you don't think that's true, you're just ignorant.
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What's the need of this? If you're not happy with your phone that's your problem... But this kind of comparisons are useless. If your neighbor's car is better than yours even if he paid less, does that mean your car is bad?
Instead of doing this things, try to enjoy your phone please.
lovemyarc said:
No man, it's all because of that 720p resolution. Z have 1080p with the same GPU.
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But if you compare nexus 4 with xz.
Both have same cpu and gpu.
But nexus 4 comes with 720 p screen unlike XZ
And when benchmarked, XZ showed better results than nexus 4.
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abd_alazeez2002 said:
But if you compare nexus 4 with xz.
Both have same cpu and gpu.
But nexus 4 comes with 720 p screen unlike XZ
And when benchmarked, XZ showed better results than nexus 4.
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come back to the saying...numbers isnt everything. 1080p isnt something amazing either, for a screen size this small you will not see it. Buy this phone because of it durability not because of it spec.
G1_enthusiast said:
come back to the saying...numbers isnt everything. 1080p isnt something amazing either, for a screen size this small you will not see it. Buy this phone because of it durability not because of it spec.
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Bull****. Numbers is almost everything. Aesthetics are important too, but would you buy a phone that has only a dual-core, qHD screen and 2G because it looks beautiful? Nope, don't think so.
Comparing to the SP is also nonsense. It's like comparing a current-gen pc with a slightly less current-gen pc. Both are fast, but the higher end one should clearly be the winner.
Finally, 1080p on 5" is amazing. Anyone who says it isn't is ignorant. I had a Galaxy Note which has a pixel density of 285ppi, which would be high enough. But I still see the difference with this device. It is just amazing! Also the quad-core, 2GB of RAM and fast GPU are amazing too. If you don't think it matters, buy a Note or any other last-gen phone and see for yourself...
alex3305 said:
Bull****. Numbers is almost everything. Aesthetics are important too, but would you buy a phone that has only a dual-core, qHD screen and 2G because it looks beautiful? Nope, don't think so.
Finally, 1080p on 5" is amazing. Anyone who says it isn't is ignorant. I had a Galaxy Note which has a pixel density of 285ppi, which would be high enough. But I still see the difference with this device. It is just amazing! Also the quad-core, 2GB of RAM and fast GPU are amazing too. If you don't think it matters, buy a Note or any other last-gen phone and see for yourself...
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um yea I would I am actually debating on keeping the S3 over the Z because I can attach a bigger battery to it, hence i dont care about esthetic, It's a ****ing phone not a ****ing ferrari.
you cant even see the 1080p on a 17in laptop why would u see it on a 5in display. PPI can be change via root app big deal
http://carltonbale.com/1080p-does-matter/
here's a little reading, stop buying into the marketing gimmick, this is just like the statement "the larger the MP the better the picture" um no its not, any photographer can tell you the glass is what make the picture better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diLD42QafIo pause at 3:57 thats how close you got to look to see the difference in 720p and 1080p
G1_enthusiast said:
um yea I would I am actually debating on keeping the S3 over the Z because I can attach a bigger battery to it, hence i dont care about esthetic, It's a ****ing phone not a ****ing ferrari.
you cant even see the 1080p on a 17in laptop why would u see it on a 5in display. PPI can be change via root app big deal
http://carltonbale.com/1080p-does-matter/
here's a little reading, stop buying into the marketing gimmick, this is just like the statement "the larger the MP the better the picture" um no its not, any photographer can tell you the glass is what make the picture better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diLD42QafIo pause at 3:57 thats how close you got to look to see the difference in 720p and 1080p
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You're just wrong. If you used your phone at about 0.6 feet away, which is 18cm you could probably tell the difference. Furthermore, because the human eye (according to Apple) has a ppi of about 300, 400+ ppi is a tremendous difference from 286 (Galaxy Note) ppi. Which is just below our 330ppi limit.
Also you can't change the ppi (which is what we are talking about here) via root or anything. You can change the 'dpi', which is the scaling of the Android OS. The Z uses a 480dpi setting, which is a bit more than the display is (which is 443) but it scales better. The Galaxy Note has a set dpi of 320, which is also a bit higher than the 286ppi of the screen.
Regarding the Youtube video.... I'm not even taking you serious anymore. The camera and your monitor make a huge difference on that perception.
alex3305 said:
You're just wrong. If you used your phone at about 0.6 feet away, which is 18cm you could probably tell the difference. Furthermore, because the human eye (according to Apple) has a ppi of about 300, 400+ ppi is a tremendous difference from 286 (Galaxy Note) ppi. Which is just below our 330ppi limit.
Also you can't change the ppi (which is what we are talking about here) via root or anything. You can change the 'dpi', which is the scaling of the Android OS. The Z uses a 480dpi setting, which is a bit more than the display is (which is 443) but it scales better. The Galaxy Note has a set dpi of 320, which is also a bit higher than the 286ppi of the screen.
Regarding the Youtube video.... I'm not even taking you serious anymore. The camera and your monitor make a huge difference on that perception.
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ok be in denial thats fine with me, i'll give you the point on the DPI and PPI but I just gave you an article on resolution and sizes, if you refuse it then that your right. I dont stare at my phone from 2in away so its fine with me. I dont pick phone like its a part of me or for esthetic looking, i pick it because its use as a phone, I am not going to sit there buy into the marketing gimmick, if I did i would have waited for the S4, as i'm sure the S4 outperform the Z in all hardware spec. the only thing is the plastic shell which doesnt bother me.
Guys I think the xperia SP performs better because it has a dual core processor. Most applications dont have support for multi cores or they dont take advantage of it.... even if they support more then one core most are optimized to 2 cores not 4. So the Quad core doesnt really make a difference if most apps arent optimized for it
Ba7rani123 said:
Guys I think the xperia SP performs better because it has a dual core processor. Most applications dont have support for multi cores or they dont take advantage of it.... even if they support more then one core most are optimized to 2 cores not 4. So the Quad core doesnt really make a difference if most apps arent optimized for it
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Think the biggest factor is the benchmarks the SP excelled in was more to do with GPU performance that was run in its native resolution. Which was only 720p
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Ba7rani123 said:
Guys I think the xperia SP performs better because it has a dual core processor. Most applications dont have support for multi cores or they dont take advantage of it.... even if they support more then one core most are optimized to 2 cores not 4. So the Quad core doesnt really make a difference if most apps arent optimized for it
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Also not true. Since version 3, Android nativly supports multiple cores and can handle them by itself.
Ba7rani123 said:
Guys I think the xperia SP performs better because it has a dual core processor. Most applications dont have support for multi cores or they dont take advantage of it.... even if they support more then one core most are optimized to 2 cores not 4. So the Quad core doesnt really make a difference if most apps arent optimized for it
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I tend to agree, quad core is not needed, RAM on the other hand....2 GB was the biggest upgrade ever, solve lag issue, launcher redraw problem. everything and anything can run on my Dual Core S3. So processor is not a big factor at all.

S4 octa GPU is'nt much behind than adreno 330

The Samsung Galaxy S4 LTE-A edition with the Snapdragon
800 chip inside is understandable getting the attention of
all benchmark-loving geeks. The smartphone was already
put through its paces in a couple of benchmarks last week,
but today, another batch of benchmarks has surfaced
showing what the Adreno 320 GPU is capable of.
The benchmarks that were used are GFX Bench 2.7, Epic
Citadel, AnTuTu 3D, and 3DMark benchmark, The Wi-Fi
adapter in the phone was put through some testing as well
to see if supports higher speeds than its Snapdragon 600
and Octa variations.
But now onto the benchmark scores, which were provided as
screenshots of chart tables. However, we’ve converted them
to our trusty benchmark graphs.
Starting off with the AnTuTu 3D Rating benchmark, the
Samsung Galaxy S4 LTE-A is the definite winner among
Android smartphones, but is far behind the iPhone 5, which
scores north of 13000 points. That’s unsurprising though, as
the first run is of the actual resolution of the respective
smartphone. Since the iPhone 5′s resolution is much lower
than the one of the Galaxy S4, it’s normal for Apple’s
smartphone to take that one.
Higher is better
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13671 Apple iPhone 5
9465 Samsung Galaxy S4 (LTE-A)
7587 Samsung Galaxy S4 (Octa)
6984 Vega IRON
5929 Nexus 4
5632 LG Optimus G
1661 LG Optimus 4X HD
However, when it comes to offscreen benchmarking, the
Adreno 320 takes the lead of the iPhone 5, but still loses
to the Octa version of the Galaxy S4.
Higher is better
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2781 Samsung Galaxy S4 (Octa)
2658 Samsung Galaxy S4 (LTE-A)
2564 Apple iPhone 5
2366 Samsung Galaxy Note II
6984 Vega IRON
2084 Vega N6
2062 Samsung Galaxy S3
2036 Vega R3
1974 HTC One X+
Moving onto the 3DMark benchmark test, the Galaxy S4 is
on top with 17075 points for the graphics score on the
“Icestorm Detail” level.
Higher is better
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17075 Samsung Galaxy S4 (LTE-A)
12628 Vega IRON
10647 Samsung Galaxy S4 (LTE-A)
11439 Google Nexus 4
9400 LG Optimus G PRO
Lastly, there’s Epic Citadel. There, the Galaxy S4 LTE-A falls
behind the Galaxy S4 Octa yet again, but it’s more to do
with the fact that the benchmark runs onscreen and the
devices hit the 60 fps limit of their displays.
High er is better
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59 . 8 Samsung Galaxy S4 (Octa)
59 . 2 Samsung Galaxy S4 (LTE-A)
57 . 5 Samsung Galaxy S4 Active
57 . 1 Samsung Galaxy S4 (S600)
56 . 4 HTC One
55 . 6 Sony Xperia Z
54 . 2 LG Optimus G Pro
53 . 9 Nexus 4
53 . 4 Asus Padfone 2
52 . 6 LG Optimus G
41 . 3 Samsung Galaxy S III
38 . 6 Oppo Find 5
And finally, we get on to the Wi-Fi Bandwidth test. The
Galaxy S4 LTE-A sits on top scoring 80392 points on the
5GHz band and 46411 on the 2.4GHz band. The Octa core
variety gets 76739 points and 45492 points on the 5GHz
and 2.4GHz band, respectively.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-lte-a-with-snapdragon-800-gets-gpu-benchmark-action/
Hi you stated twice Galaxy S4 LTE A witch ones octa ? Thanks
Moving onto the 3DMark benchmark test, the Galaxy S4 is
on top with 17075 points for the graphics score on the
“Icestorm Detail” level.
Higher is better
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17075 Samsung Galaxy S4 (LTE-A)
12628 Vega IRON
10647 Samsung Galaxy S4 (LTE-A)
11439 Google Nexus 4
9400 LG Optimus G PRO
wheres the default normal I9505 (Snapdragon 600) scores?
Quoted from GSM arena
"As you can clearly see, the Snapdragon 800 wipes the floor with both the*Samsung Galaxy S4 Exynos 5 Octa*andGalaxy S4 Snapdragon 600. In AnTuTu the difference between the scores is 3701 points, or just over 14% while in Quadrant it's more substantial at nearly 50%. Owners of the Octa and Snapdragon 600 versions of the phone*might feel a bit off*at this point"
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Quoted from GSM arena
"As you can clearly see, the Snapdragon 800 wipes the floor with both the*Samsung Galaxy S4 Exynos 5 Octa*andGalaxy S4 Snapdragon 600. In AnTuTu the difference between the scores is 3701 points, or just over 14% while in Quadrant it's more substantial at nearly 50%. Owners of the Octa and Snapdragon 600 versions of the phone*might feel a bit off*at this point"
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Why? Because an updated phone has a higher GPU score in a benchmark that won't be seen in everyday use throughout the entire lifetime of any of the three phones? Er....no. I'm happy with my GS4 and that isn't going to change because an updated model has been released two months after I purchased it.
Some people really need to get a grip and break this stupid obsession with benchmark scores. Once you get beyond a certain score they're nothing but numbers.
Who cares anyway about benchmarks, they dont mean anything. there is also no single game that demands such a gpu power. yeah cool within 2 years maybe but then ill have the S6
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plasmastate said:
Quoted from GSM arena
"As you can clearly see, the Snapdragon 800 wipes the floor with both the*Samsung Galaxy S4 Exynos 5 Octa*andGalaxy S4 Snapdragon 600. In AnTuTu the difference between the scores is 3701 points, or just over 14% while in Quadrant it's more substantial at nearly 50%. Owners of the Octa and Snapdragon 600 versions of the phone*might feel a bit off*at this point"
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I don't agree with that, i used a galaxy s3 and compared to the i9505 it is so much faster. Why should people feel a bit off just because a updated phone is out ? technique is changing everyday and not everyone cares about the newest stuff that got released. We already knew Samsung would release a updated version somewhere in the summer, people had a choice.
Hello do you know the price of the s4 LTE.A
Its about $900. For that our snap600 its better... :beer:
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We all can try our best to justify our purchase of i9500 and i9505 but nothing can change the fact that the lteA variant is faster, battery efficient, has quick charge like s600, has low power voice command for wakeup, has significantly better gpu, native 4k playback, 4k video recording etc.
But we have to keep in mind that all this won't make our s4 any worse or better, it is still running the way it was.
The only thing I am disappointed with is the octacores poor optimisation and a half baked silicon for big.little. I dont care if the snap 800 is faster or not but the octacore has alot of potential. Only if it was optimized better!
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plasmastate said:
We all can try our best to justify our purchase of i9500 and i9505 but nothing can change the fact that the lteA variant is faster, battery efficient, has quick charge like s600, has low power voice command for wakeup, has significantly better gpu, native 4k playback, 4k video recording etc.
But we have to keep in mind that all this won't make our s4 any worse or better, it is still running the way it was.
The only thing I am disappointed with is the octacores poor optimisation and a half baked silicon for big.little. I dont care if the snap 800 is faster or not but the octacore has alot of potential. Only if it was optimized better!
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It doesn't have any of the bolded parts. The only thing is better at is the GPU power and efficiency. That's all.
Don't forget that it costs about 100$ to 150$ more than the regular S4 so even if I have the option to peek the LTE-A variant 1.5 months ago I wouldn't cause it doesn't deserve the 100$ difference.
Guys I'm considering buying a s4-lte
But how's the ROM support
Are the ROMs for the snapdragon 600 comlaitable with it
Slm.Alsini said:
Guys I'm considering buying a s4-lte
But how's the ROM support
Are the ROMs for the snapdragon 600 comlaitable with it
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Maybe, not much I think. And NO, the Snapdragon 600 and 800 are totally different. It might brick if you flash a S600 ROM on the phone.
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noideaforusername said:
It doesn't have any of the bolded parts. The only thing is better at is the GPU power and efficiency. That's all.
Don't forget that it costs about 100$ to 150$ more than the regular S4 so even if I have the option to peek the LTE-A variant 1.5 months ago I wouldn't cause it doesn't deserve the 100$ difference.
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You're incorrect. The chipset in the GS4 LTE-A does support 4k encode/decode. The MSM8974 is the first hardware from Qualcomm that supports that feature. Whether or not Samsung will enable it is another question but I am betting they will eventually through a software update.
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You're incorrect. The chipset in the GS4 LTE-A does support 4k encode/decode. The MSM8974 is the first hardware from Qualcomm that supports that feature. Whether or not Samsung will enable it is another question but I am betting they will eventually through a software update.
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Never said the chipset doesn't support it. Just the fact that it won't be used since the camera sensor doesn't support this.
noideaforusername said:
Never said the chipset doesn't support it. Just the fact that it won't be used since the camera sensor doesn't support this.
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May be the camera sensor wont support it but how about outputting the 4k encoded video files through the video player mate?
thekoRngear said:
May be the camera sensor wont support it but how about outputting the 4k encoded video files through the video player mate?
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From where did you get the 4k videos and why would you want to do so? The display is FHD so you could take the FHD version of the Video/Series you want to watch... Don't forget that 4k videos are 4 times the size of a FHD videos so you probably won't be even possibly place 4k video inside your device
If you meant through a 4k TV monitor, then yes it'll be an advantage which very few people will be able to use.
noideaforusername said:
From where did you get the 4k videos and why would you want to do so? The display is FHD so you could take the FHD version of the Video/Series you want to watch... Don't forget that 4k videos are 4 times the size of a FHD videos so you probably won't be even possibly place 4k video inside your device
If you meant through a 4k TV monitor, then yes it'll be an advantage which very few people will be able to use.
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Hmm. I got Elysium trailer. A 2min video sized 416 or so MB. My S3 has 720p display. But did the technology stop there? The CPU/GPU is capable of rendering a 1080p video via video player. And since snapdragon 800 can decode/output 4k videos the first thing I will be curious (if I had the LTE A) whether or not the S4 LTE A could play that out. I can make it to smaller whatever size (1080p, 720p, 480p, 360p) I want but that isnt my point.
If there is certain restriction that all the current gen 1080p SAMOLED/SLCDs are unable to output UHD contents that I am unaware of, then pardon me for wanting it. 4k videos though really rare till now. People rather watch the 1080p videos Sourced straight from 4k original like Amazing Spider Man.
Also, the making sense of outputting such high resolution stuffs off a comparatively small screen like 5"+1080p could be another question. But since the GPU has it, why not try it?
racerex said:
Whether or not Samsung will enable it is another question but I am betting they will eventually through a software update.
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Amen to that.
Just tried a 4k video using mxplayer with all possible settings on my i9500 for the sake of fun. It struggles and plays at almost half the normal speed lol. I am curious to find out how the snap800s handle such video.
(Not that it is useful in real time, atleast not for me but yeah)
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plasmastate said:
Just tried a 4k video using mxplayer with all possible settings on my i9500 for the sake of fun. It struggles and plays at almost half the normal speed lol. I am curious to find out how the snap800s handle such video.
(Not that it is useful in real time, atleast not for me but yeah)
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MX Player uses sw decoder for 4k video playback and unfortunately it uses low power(little) CPUs. My i9500 can't even play 1080p videos correctly by sw decoder in MX player cause of wrong processing priority which is kernel related while nexus4 can handle that without problem
I think A15 CPUs can handle 4k playback with no problems
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Pagnell said:
Why? Because an updated phone has a higher GPU score in a benchmark that won't be seen in everyday use throughout the entire lifetime of any of the three phones? Er....no. I'm happy with my GS4 and that isn't going to change because an updated model has been released two months after I purchased it.
Some people really need to get a grip and break this stupid obsession with benchmark scores. Once you get beyond a certain score they're nothing but numbers.
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Agree , every version of this phone launched have its pros and cons . even in the same hardware field , which is really not noticeable at all in real life use. every version is fast , snappy and can handle 1080p contents just well . just lets hope we get proper optimization for our devices that should be our main worry

[Q] Nexus 4 and Xperia sp

why does xperia sp score higher benchmark than nexus 4 even though xperia sp is an underdog in terms of specs?
russelngo said:
why does xperia sp score higher benchmark than nexus 4 even though xperia sp is an underdog in terms of specs?
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Dude what matters you, the benchmarks or the performance?
Performance yeah.. So why care for benchmarks?
What you get from the numbers?? Nothing.. So let them go to heck.!!
What benchmark do you get with Xperia sp? Bwt I will give more with my N4..
Why on earth do you buy phone base on benchmark score?
You can search for benchmark results of both devices on Google.
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Thermal throttle.
Xperia Sp Outshines nexus 4
russelngo said:
why does xperia sp score higher benchmark than nexus 4 even though xperia sp is an underdog in terms of specs?
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My dear friend, who said you that xperia sp is an underdog in terms of specs.
For your knowledge, xperia sp shares the same qualcomm chipset as nexus has(the snapdragon s4 pro), but with a different model designed for dual core cpu's(msm 8960T) than the nexus quad core designed(apq 8064), it has the very same adreno 320 gpu, but has half the ram nexus has.
The reason for xperia sp scoring way over nexus is because of its low resolution 720p screen rather than 1080p, so it has to process less pixels, hence less workload, and more benchmarks and performance,
But i agree in real life, nexus 4 has a better performance, due to its 2 gigs of ram which is awesome for multitasking, but that doesn't mean xperia sp is an "underdog"
Moreover, with usb otg, expandable storage, and the transparent illumination bar, xperia sp score much better overall in my perspective,
CellSmart! said:
My dear friend, who said you that xperia sp is an underdog in terms of specs.
For your knowledge, xperia sp shares the same qualcomm chipset as nexus has(the snapdragon s4 pro), but with a different model designed for dual core cpu's(msm 8960T) than the nexus quad core designed(apq 8064), it has the very same adreno 320 gpu, but has half the ram nexus has.
The reason for xperia sp scoring way over nexus is because of its low resolution 720p screen rather than 1080p, so it has to process less pixels, hence less workload, and more benchmarks and performance,
But i agree in real life, nexus 4 has a better performance, due to its 2 gigs of ram which is awesome for multitasking, but that doesn't mean xperia sp is an "underdog"
Moreover, with usb otg, expandable storage, and the transparent illumination bar, xperia sp score much better overall in my perspective,
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The nexus 4 isn't 1080p...its 720p
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xfrancis14 said:
The nexus 4 isn't 1080p...its 720p
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Oops than, nexus 4 might be a crap, hehe:laugh:
Even moto g bypasses it in terms of benchmarking

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