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Galaxy S II annouce at Sheunghei

http://digital.sina.com.hk/mobile/news/1/4/1/1032734/1.html
http://itbbs.pconline.com.cn/mobile/12872948.html

As i see it stands 1GHz x2 CPU :S and yesterday almost all stated that 1,2GHz x2 is comfirmed info

　 Samsung GALAXY S2 built-in 800-megapixel camera, support 720P HD video recording, using the frequency for the high-pass Snapdragon 8260 1.2GHz dual-core processor chipset and has 512MB of RAM and up to 16GB of storage capacity.
since when the sgs2 is using snapdragon processor ?

The first link is from before the announcement of the 1.2 GHz processor and looks a lot like the samsung unpacked event from MWC. It also doesn't have the samsung branding. The second looks like a standard blog post about the phone. I'd see these are standard product launch materials from the announcement in China.

the_weirdweird said:
　 Samsung GALAXY S2 built-in 800-megapixel camera, support 720P HD video recording, using the frequency for the high-pass Snapdragon 8260 1.2GHz dual-core processor chipset and has 512MB of RAM and up to 16GB of storage capacity.
since when the sgs2 is using snapdragon processor ?
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800-megapixel camera
Since when do 800 megapixel cameras exist

MoonRaven said:
800-megapixel camera
Since when do 800 megapixel cameras exist
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Don't underestimate Samsung's camera tech

Rytkonen said:
Don't underestimate Samsung's camera tech
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Indeed
Nah the post has too many errors, it's safe to ignore the snapdragon error too

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Rytkonen said:
Don't underestimate Samsung's camera tech
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Didn't you hear? That spec was also bumped up during the whole Delay fiasco.

dhruvmalik said:
Didn't you hear? That spec was also bumped up during the whole Delay fiasco.
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Yes, noticed that too !

S4 octa GPU is'nt much behind than adreno 330

The Samsung Galaxy S4 LTE-A edition with the Snapdragon
800 chip inside is understandable getting the attention of
all benchmark-loving geeks. The smartphone was already
put through its paces in a couple of benchmarks last week,
but today, another batch of benchmarks has surfaced
showing what the Adreno 320 GPU is capable of.
The benchmarks that were used are GFX Bench 2.7, Epic
Citadel, AnTuTu 3D, and 3DMark benchmark, The Wi-Fi
adapter in the phone was put through some testing as well
to see if supports higher speeds than its Snapdragon 600
and Octa variations.
But now onto the benchmark scores, which were provided as
screenshots of chart tables. However, we’ve converted them
to our trusty benchmark graphs.
Starting off with the AnTuTu 3D Rating benchmark, the
Samsung Galaxy S4 LTE-A is the definite winner among
Android smartphones, but is far behind the iPhone 5, which
scores north of 13000 points. That’s unsurprising though, as
the first run is of the actual resolution of the respective
smartphone. Since the iPhone 5′s resolution is much lower
than the one of the Galaxy S4, it’s normal for Apple’s
smartphone to take that one.
Higher is better
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13671 Apple iPhone 5
9465 Samsung Galaxy S4 (LTE-A)
7587 Samsung Galaxy S4 (Octa)
6984 Vega IRON
5929 Nexus 4
5632 LG Optimus G
1661 LG Optimus 4X HD
However, when it comes to offscreen benchmarking, the
Adreno 320 takes the lead of the iPhone 5, but still loses
to the Octa version of the Galaxy S4.
Higher is better
Sort by Label Sort by Value
2781 Samsung Galaxy S4 (Octa)
2658 Samsung Galaxy S4 (LTE-A)
2564 Apple iPhone 5
2366 Samsung Galaxy Note II
6984 Vega IRON
2084 Vega N6
2062 Samsung Galaxy S3
2036 Vega R3
1974 HTC One X+
Moving onto the 3DMark benchmark test, the Galaxy S4 is
on top with 17075 points for the graphics score on the
“Icestorm Detail” level.
Higher is better
Sort by Label Sort by Value
17075 Samsung Galaxy S4 (LTE-A)
12628 Vega IRON
10647 Samsung Galaxy S4 (LTE-A)
11439 Google Nexus 4
9400 LG Optimus G PRO
Lastly, there’s Epic Citadel. There, the Galaxy S4 LTE-A falls
behind the Galaxy S4 Octa yet again, but it’s more to do
with the fact that the benchmark runs onscreen and the
devices hit the 60 fps limit of their displays.
High er is better
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59 . 8 Samsung Galaxy S4 (Octa)
59 . 2 Samsung Galaxy S4 (LTE-A)
57 . 5 Samsung Galaxy S4 Active
57 . 1 Samsung Galaxy S4 (S600)
56 . 4 HTC One
55 . 6 Sony Xperia Z
54 . 2 LG Optimus G Pro
53 . 9 Nexus 4
53 . 4 Asus Padfone 2
52 . 6 LG Optimus G
41 . 3 Samsung Galaxy S III
38 . 6 Oppo Find 5
And finally, we get on to the Wi-Fi Bandwidth test. The
Galaxy S4 LTE-A sits on top scoring 80392 points on the
5GHz band and 46411 on the 2.4GHz band. The Octa core
variety gets 76739 points and 45492 points on the 5GHz
and 2.4GHz band, respectively.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-lte-a-with-snapdragon-800-gets-gpu-benchmark-action/

Hi you stated twice Galaxy S4 LTE A witch ones octa ? Thanks
Moving onto the 3DMark benchmark test, the Galaxy S4 is
on top with 17075 points for the graphics score on the
“Icestorm Detail” level.
Higher is better
Sort by Label Sort by Value
17075 Samsung Galaxy S4 (LTE-A)
12628 Vega IRON
10647 Samsung Galaxy S4 (LTE-A)
11439 Google Nexus 4
9400 LG Optimus G PRO

wheres the default normal I9505 (Snapdragon 600) scores?

Quoted from GSM arena
"As you can clearly see, the Snapdragon 800 wipes the floor with both the*Samsung Galaxy S4 Exynos 5 Octa*andGalaxy S4 Snapdragon 600. In AnTuTu the difference between the scores is 3701 points, or just over 14% while in Quadrant it's more substantial at nearly 50%. Owners of the Octa and Snapdragon 600 versions of the phone*might feel a bit off*at this point"
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plasmastate said:
Quoted from GSM arena
"As you can clearly see, the Snapdragon 800 wipes the floor with both the*Samsung Galaxy S4 Exynos 5 Octa*andGalaxy S4 Snapdragon 600. In AnTuTu the difference between the scores is 3701 points, or just over 14% while in Quadrant it's more substantial at nearly 50%. Owners of the Octa and Snapdragon 600 versions of the phone*might feel a bit off*at this point"
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Why? Because an updated phone has a higher GPU score in a benchmark that won't be seen in everyday use throughout the entire lifetime of any of the three phones? Er....no. I'm happy with my GS4 and that isn't going to change because an updated model has been released two months after I purchased it.
Some people really need to get a grip and break this stupid obsession with benchmark scores. Once you get beyond a certain score they're nothing but numbers.

Who cares anyway about benchmarks, they dont mean anything. there is also no single game that demands such a gpu power. yeah cool within 2 years maybe but then ill have the S6
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plasmastate said:
Quoted from GSM arena
"As you can clearly see, the Snapdragon 800 wipes the floor with both the*Samsung Galaxy S4 Exynos 5 Octa*andGalaxy S4 Snapdragon 600. In AnTuTu the difference between the scores is 3701 points, or just over 14% while in Quadrant it's more substantial at nearly 50%. Owners of the Octa and Snapdragon 600 versions of the phone*might feel a bit off*at this point"
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I don't agree with that, i used a galaxy s3 and compared to the i9505 it is so much faster. Why should people feel a bit off just because a updated phone is out ? technique is changing everyday and not everyone cares about the newest stuff that got released. We already knew Samsung would release a updated version somewhere in the summer, people had a choice.

Hello do you know the price of the s4 LTE.A
Its about $900. For that our snap600 its better... :beer:
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We all can try our best to justify our purchase of i9500 and i9505 but nothing can change the fact that the lteA variant is faster, battery efficient, has quick charge like s600, has low power voice command for wakeup, has significantly better gpu, native 4k playback, 4k video recording etc.
But we have to keep in mind that all this won't make our s4 any worse or better, it is still running the way it was.
The only thing I am disappointed with is the octacores poor optimisation and a half baked silicon for big.little. I dont care if the snap 800 is faster or not but the octacore has alot of potential. Only if it was optimized better!
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plasmastate said:
We all can try our best to justify our purchase of i9500 and i9505 but nothing can change the fact that the lteA variant is faster, battery efficient, has quick charge like s600, has low power voice command for wakeup, has significantly better gpu, native 4k playback, 4k video recording etc.
But we have to keep in mind that all this won't make our s4 any worse or better, it is still running the way it was.
The only thing I am disappointed with is the octacores poor optimisation and a half baked silicon for big.little. I dont care if the snap 800 is faster or not but the octacore has alot of potential. Only if it was optimized better!
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It doesn't have any of the bolded parts. The only thing is better at is the GPU power and efficiency. That's all.
Don't forget that it costs about 100$ to 150$ more than the regular S4 so even if I have the option to peek the LTE-A variant 1.5 months ago I wouldn't cause it doesn't deserve the 100$ difference.

Guys I'm considering buying a s4-lte
But how's the ROM support
Are the ROMs for the snapdragon 600 comlaitable with it

Slm.Alsini said:
Guys I'm considering buying a s4-lte
But how's the ROM support
Are the ROMs for the snapdragon 600 comlaitable with it
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Maybe, not much I think. And NO, the Snapdragon 600 and 800 are totally different. It might brick if you flash a S600 ROM on the phone.
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noideaforusername said:
It doesn't have any of the bolded parts. The only thing is better at is the GPU power and efficiency. That's all.
Don't forget that it costs about 100$ to 150$ more than the regular S4 so even if I have the option to peek the LTE-A variant 1.5 months ago I wouldn't cause it doesn't deserve the 100$ difference.
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You're incorrect. The chipset in the GS4 LTE-A does support 4k encode/decode. The MSM8974 is the first hardware from Qualcomm that supports that feature. Whether or not Samsung will enable it is another question but I am betting they will eventually through a software update.

racerex said:
You're incorrect. The chipset in the GS4 LTE-A does support 4k encode/decode. The MSM8974 is the first hardware from Qualcomm that supports that feature. Whether or not Samsung will enable it is another question but I am betting they will eventually through a software update.
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Never said the chipset doesn't support it. Just the fact that it won't be used since the camera sensor doesn't support this.

noideaforusername said:
Never said the chipset doesn't support it. Just the fact that it won't be used since the camera sensor doesn't support this.
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May be the camera sensor wont support it but how about outputting the 4k encoded video files through the video player mate?

thekoRngear said:
May be the camera sensor wont support it but how about outputting the 4k encoded video files through the video player mate?
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From where did you get the 4k videos and why would you want to do so? The display is FHD so you could take the FHD version of the Video/Series you want to watch... Don't forget that 4k videos are 4 times the size of a FHD videos so you probably won't be even possibly place 4k video inside your device
If you meant through a 4k TV monitor, then yes it'll be an advantage which very few people will be able to use.

noideaforusername said:
From where did you get the 4k videos and why would you want to do so? The display is FHD so you could take the FHD version of the Video/Series you want to watch... Don't forget that 4k videos are 4 times the size of a FHD videos so you probably won't be even possibly place 4k video inside your device
If you meant through a 4k TV monitor, then yes it'll be an advantage which very few people will be able to use.
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Hmm. I got Elysium trailer. A 2min video sized 416 or so MB. My S3 has 720p display. But did the technology stop there? The CPU/GPU is capable of rendering a 1080p video via video player. And since snapdragon 800 can decode/output 4k videos the first thing I will be curious (if I had the LTE A) whether or not the S4 LTE A could play that out. I can make it to smaller whatever size (1080p, 720p, 480p, 360p) I want but that isnt my point.
If there is certain restriction that all the current gen 1080p SAMOLED/SLCDs are unable to output UHD contents that I am unaware of, then pardon me for wanting it. 4k videos though really rare till now. People rather watch the 1080p videos Sourced straight from 4k original like Amazing Spider Man.
Also, the making sense of outputting such high resolution stuffs off a comparatively small screen like 5"+1080p could be another question. But since the GPU has it, why not try it?
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Whether or not Samsung will enable it is another question but I am betting they will eventually through a software update.
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Amen to that.

Just tried a 4k video using mxplayer with all possible settings on my i9500 for the sake of fun. It struggles and plays at almost half the normal speed lol. I am curious to find out how the snap800s handle such video.
(Not that it is useful in real time, atleast not for me but yeah)
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plasmastate said:
Just tried a 4k video using mxplayer with all possible settings on my i9500 for the sake of fun. It struggles and plays at almost half the normal speed lol. I am curious to find out how the snap800s handle such video.
(Not that it is useful in real time, atleast not for me but yeah)
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MX Player uses sw decoder for 4k video playback and unfortunately it uses low power(little) CPUs. My i9500 can't even play 1080p videos correctly by sw decoder in MX player cause of wrong processing priority which is kernel related while nexus4 can handle that without problem
I think A15 CPUs can handle 4k playback with no problems
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Pagnell said:
Why? Because an updated phone has a higher GPU score in a benchmark that won't be seen in everyday use throughout the entire lifetime of any of the three phones? Er....no. I'm happy with my GS4 and that isn't going to change because an updated model has been released two months after I purchased it.
Some people really need to get a grip and break this stupid obsession with benchmark scores. Once you get beyond a certain score they're nothing but numbers.
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Agree , every version of this phone launched have its pros and cons . even in the same hardware field , which is really not noticeable at all in real life use. every version is fast , snappy and can handle 1080p contents just well . just lets hope we get proper optimization for our devices that should be our main worry

[Q] N9000 or N9005?

Considering the S4 mess with octa core support I'm not sure on what Note3 cpu model to follow... I'm tempted to get the N9000 because of the promised extra power of the cpu, also I'm living in a development country without LTE support. But previous experience with S4 cpu (currently got an I9500) is making the decision not so easy. Any input or opinion is welcomed.
Thanks.

I'm going to buy a Note 3 too and even though there is no LTE support in the country i live in, i'd prefer the reliability and core clock speed of qualcomm snapdragon 800 to the so-called octa core exynos chipset. And plus there are more roms for i9500 which is the LTE version and im thinking that this tradition will continue.

battle1 said:
I'm going to buy a Note 3 too and even though there is no LTE support in the country i live in, i'd prefer the reliability and core clock speed of qualcomm snapdragon 800 to the so-called octa core exynos chipset. And plus there are more roms for i9500 which is the LTE version and im thinking that this tradition will continue.
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More roms for the i9500?
surely a typo... there are far more roms for i9505 which is the Snapdragon 800 variant.
Thanks for your input.

I much prefer the Snapdragon to the Exynos setup. The Exynos solution consists of two quad-core processors, one with more processing capability and higher power requirements, one with lower (seems kind of like a less efficient version of Tegra 3's five core setup) - Having one more powerful, efficient quad core is a better solution IMO, even if they enable heterogeneous processing across both quad cores in the Exynos setup. Mobile apps will benefit from more single and lightly threaded performance than multi-threaded capability IMO.

maxipvp said:
More roms for the i9500?
surely a typo... there are far more roms for i9505 which is the Snapdragon 800 variant.
Thanks for your input.
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Sorry i meant i9505 as i said that i liked snapdragon 800(N9005) version better.

battle1 said:
Sorry i meant i9505 as i said that i liked snapdragon 800(N9005) version better.
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Understood. Thanks again for the comments.
BTW, just get a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 32GB LTE (AT&T) (Unlocked) from Negri Elect. $744.50 usd, shipping 10/3.
The only issue is the waiting time to get it.

Apart from the CPU difference there is the HD video one as well.
The N9000 records at 1080p 1920x1080 while N9005 records at 4K 3840 x 2160
I think this proves that the octacore is a indeed more powerful and can handle 4K video recording.

kourabies2 said:
Apart from the CPU difference there is the HD video one as well.
The N9000 records at 1080p 1920x1080 while N9005 records at 4K 3840 x 2160
I think this proves that the octacore is a indeed more powerful and can handle 4K video recording.
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Except it's the S800 version that's able to record 4k video.. N9005 is the Snapdragon 800 version and during IFA Samsung specifically said that 4K recording was only available on the S800 variant. I find it strange that the Exynos version doesn't support it.

so which one is best for tmobile( hspa+ AND lte )? n9005? I hope so, because I'm tired of the missing exynos drivers. Snapdragon800 please

I will be getting N9005,just because of the higher CPU clock,and better development support.

s800 version not supporting non European countries sim cards?
Did you get the news guys?
This is a total mess!!
I Wonder if there is something we can do.
But are there any benchmarks to tell us more about n9000 ?

lynx2025 said:
Did you get the news guys?
This is a total mess!!
I Wonder if there is something we can do.
But are there any benchmarks to tell us more about n9000 ?
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What? That's got to be some corporate cellular pprovider money grubbing monkey business. Thanks for the heads up

I got the 9005 model and it is very stable and smoth.
When I first used it the heat generated on the back was too much. But then it settled down.
Now it heats a bit also. I did not have this experience with my last note 2.
I hope someone who has access to both devices can test for that and let us know..
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I just watched review about n9000 vs n9005
is it true that n9000 has more total ram and internal storage compare to n9005?

i have the n9005 and the internal storage is 26.36gb, i guess they tested on a pre-release/ carrier rom. Total ram is 2440mb.
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From what I've seen in terms of benchmarks the n9005 is faster. In terms of rom support I guess the S800 version will get more roms and cm.
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N9005
Snapdragon 800 - 2.3Ghz
Adreno 330 GPU
4K Video Record and Playback
LTE Support
2.4GB available RAM
N900
Exynos 5 Octa 5420 - 1.9Ghz
Mali-T628 MP6 GPU
NO 4K Video Record and Playback (I seen test video at China forum before, it confirm cannot playback the 4K video)
NO LTE Support
2.7GB available RAM
Benchmark Result

I am still cant take choice
Hi all
Now i have n900 , i feel camera not good for take picture for moving things even in sport mode , i will buy another one to my friend and i want to gave him good advice if n9005 will be better and faster , because camera is one of important thing , also he will use it replacing by his tablet that mean hard work so what you think n900 or n9005 , LTE for us not important now Fast and stability is our issue.

Exynos Vs Snapdragon
I'd love to see various benchmarks/power consumption statistics with different cores on/off.
A-7's 1 on at min clock
A-7's all 4 at max clock
A-7's overclocked/undervolted
4 A-7's and 1 A-15 all at max clock
just 4 A-15's
a single A-15 at min clock
All 8 at max clock
all 8 undervolted/overclocked
These all are necessary to know before considering the N9000.
If this info is not available, the N9005 is the clear choice.

If you see the rom support as of now the n9005 is already winning in those terms.
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Galaxy S6 (SIX) Specs

Galaxy S6 features:
Snapdragon 810
Notable features:
64 bit octa-core CPU running at up to 2.5 GHz
4 MB of cache
4K UHD video upscale & play
4Kx2K @60fps play
Dual camera image signal processor
Adreno 430 GPU
IZat Gen8B
USB 2.0 and 3.0
20 nm HKMG
LTE cat6/7 with 300 MB/s only MSM8994

Yeah, and probably it won't have a battery. You'll need a power outlet to use it and the mobility depends strictly on the length of the cable .
At least this seems to be the new thing. Who needs a big battery when you can have a thin and useless phone?

snapdragon 810
Those Specs are Real:
The Galaxy S5 has a Snapdragon 805
And the Galaxy S6 will have the Snapdragon 810
You wont see the 64 bit 8 core Snapdragon 810 untill the Galaxy S6 even though it is already fully working and finished.

SJGSM said:
Those Specs are Real:
The Galaxy S5 has a Snapdragon 805
And the Galaxy S6 will have the Snapdragon 810
You wont see the 64 bit 8 core Snapdragon 810 untill the Galaxy S6 even though it is already fully working and finished.
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And who are you? Most tech sites are already showing the S5 as having an overclocked 2.5ghz Snap800. Not that an 805 is entirely impossible but roadmaps from qualcomm don't put it being out until later summer. Also I'm 100% calling BS on your "S6 specs"
What's the term? Put up or shut up. Prove it

http://galaxysamsungs6.com
Guys its a blog of mine you can check details on s6

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http://galaxysamsungs6.com
Guys its a blog of mine you can check details on s6
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The specs for the S5 hasnt been confirmed yet and you are speculating about s6?

daraj said:
The specs for the S5 hasnt been confirmed yet and you are speculating about s6?
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Yes buddy y can't we? Its just speculations based on the previous devices of galaxy s series and some future expectations. Isn't it good?

Might as well start speculating about the galaxy s7
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This might be a bit early but I got the sauce on the Galaxy S8. Samsung is planning to change the brand name from Galaxy to Universe so it will be the Universe S8. They hope to have Quantum Computation or xQC down by then. Early estimates show it will have up to a 5000% performance increase. Battery Life still 3 hours of screen time though.

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Galaxy S6 features:
Snapdragon 810
Notable features:
64 bit octa-core CPU running at up to 2.5 GHz
4 MB of cache
4K UHD video upscale & play
4Kx2K @60fps play
Dual camera image signal processor
Adreno 430 GPU
IZat Gen8B
USB 2.0 and 3.0
20 nm HKMG
LTE cat6/7 with 300 MB/s only MSM8994
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LMAO!
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someone just traveled on a time machine and had a peek over specs

This thread is based on complete speculation and has nothing to do with this sub forum which is for the Samsung Galaxy S 5.
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Galaxy S4 or Mi 4i

hey guys, need a bit of help here. Help me choose between these 2 models. On one hand, S4 is a 2013 flag ship, mi 4i is 2015 flagship.
Specwise, both have 13mp camera, 441 ppi, 5 inch display.
Processor-wise :
S4 :
Chipset : Exynos 5 Octa 5410
CPU : Quad-core 1.6 GHz Cortex-A15 & quad-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A7
Mi 4i :
Chipset : Qualcomm MSM8939 Snapdragon 615
CPU Quad-core 1.7 GHz Cortex-A53 & quad-core 1.1 GHz Cortex-A53

I think Mi4i is not a flagship phone. more like mid range. I would pick the mi4i except if the samsung galaxy s4 variant is i9506

well thats how xiaomi is selling it.... it has specs to be a flagship atleast ..... and price is 5K lesser than S4 ( in India ).. and we get I9505 in India...

S4 (9505) is still better because of its camera and dev support.
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myawan said:
S4 (9505) is still better because of its camera and dev support.
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my bad .. i just saw , they sell I9500 here in india ... and Xiaomi is saying they have sony/samsung 13mp camera in mi4i

myawan said:
S4 (9505) is still better because of its camera and dev support.
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maybe i'm mistaken, but i own an i9505 and the camera in cm12/12.1 it's a shame, so in this point i don't see dev support

Any day go for s4 if you have money and if not go for mi4i... Xiaomi phones have specs only but overall experience is not good I had xiaomi mi3 sold it in a week the feel was very cheap kind of phone and the beauty of super amoled screen is way ahead... You'll feel the difference when both phones side by side and above all the camera of xiaomi is very bad though they say these lens that aperture they agree just textbook stuff iPhone 8mp is far better than xiaomi 80 mp.. That's the difference when you pay more you get better stuff