What animation scale do you guys use? i switch around but sometimes i hear that turning them off saves battery and makes the phone faster and others say that the difference is negligible and it looks better
.5 is what I use. I like a little animation.
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.25 was my fav, but most roms don't have it. Better yet .20 on resurrection remix and a few other roms was the best for me for super fast but still a bit of cosmetic appeal. You can run 1920 x 1080 and it makes animations and scrolling faster and smoother too. Resolution drop and animations won't help battery as many people seem to think, at least not enough for you to actually notice let alone appreciate. It might get you like 1 or 2% or so over a whole day.
But they definitely can help performance and make the phone feel that much snappier.
I was even ok with turning them off. You'll still see some animations anyway.
On stock, I set to 0.5x. It keeps the animations but makes the phone feel faster at the same time.
0.5x works for me, it doesn't really make it fast it just gives it the appearance of being faster since it speeds up some animation effects... In modern devices I don't think any change to this setting has an appreciable effect on battery life.
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OS uses a crap load of CPU resources just for scrolling. Hell I'm starting to think it's the OS and not the hardware that makes scrolling so laggy. Open up the System Panal app and scroll the active apps up and down real fast and watch the CPU percentage sky rocket to 70-75% and watch the CPU clock pretty much maxes out...WTF :O. I did the same thing on my Hero and it maxes out 99.9%. When I scroll slow and the CPU spikes the phone lags. So it's not the hardware it's the horrible optimized OS.
I think the way its setup it doesn't use the graphics chip to render graphics on the homescreens. This is why some stuff is choppy. I think they changed this in Froyo though as it is blistering fast no matter if you have live wallpapers running or whatelse is going on. After going from 2.1 to 2.2 update on my Nexus it was like night and day difference, Froyo will send the EVO over the top, can't wait to see an update!
Android is a parts bin product made by a bunch of google developers....ya it's a joke.
Ya, get a froyo rom.. its soo much faster. And its also the developers of apps that fail. I watched some Google I/O videos the other day about optimizations, ListView in particular. If developers keep creating more views as users scroll down, instead of reusing the ones that are no longer on screen, scroll speed would improve dramatically. But like i said, froyo is where its at. Get the Evolution v8 rom with RevA, its extremely fast and stable. Camera support will be coming soon im sure though.
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Android is a parts bin product made by a bunch of google developers....ya it's a joke.
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So why do you even bothering commenting on a board that's obviously about people who like Android?
I'm going to assume it was sarcasm
Hey there,
I went through a lot of trouble to get my HTC Magic (32B) working really well,
just wanna share this for people who have issues with the phone's performance as well.
I've tried many things, including a swap partition (on a fast SD-Card) as well as compcache.
Turns out, disabling both did the trick. It FINALLY went from unusable to fast and enjoyable!
My current rom:
Cyanogenmod 6.1.0 RC1
Settings->Cyanogenmod-->Performance:
Compcache DISABLED
JIT Enabled (I noticed an increase in CPU Power with the linpack benchmark,
but it still seems underpowered at 3.3 mflops)
Dithering Disabled
Keep Home App in Cache Enabled
Keep MMS-App in Cache Enabled
VM Heap 16m
Also I am using SetCPU to overclock to 576mhz at the moment(feels like the battery is draining faster).
Another thing I did was to reduce number of Homescreens in ADWLauncher down to 3, since thats 'nuff for me.
Hope this helps someone out there, as I was about to shatter my phone into a million pieces :O
On a sidenote: How many mflops do you get with your Magic?
I have the same findings There was a point when swap, overclock, apps2SD, and compcache all would make a major speed-up on your phone, but the CM6.1RC and the nightlies that shortly preceded it have given me the best performance in my magic's history with all of it turned off.
My phone is configured very similar to yours. I went up to vm24 to smooth out how heavier applications run. I left JIT on despite the theoretical drawbacks because I notice no performance hit and it makes a difference on fractal rendering apps (I'm indifferent to benchmarks).
The CM forums seem to be in a bit of turmoil atm because people are slowing down their phones by applying mods that genuinely sped it up in the past.
But for the first time I can be widget-heavy, always go straight back to home, use window animations, never have choppy music (even when using navigation), use alternate keyboards with no performance hit, and even run a good few live wallpapers. All with unprecedented battery life? Not sure what CM did but he/they sure did it right.
One thing - overclocking your CPU will better your benchtest results but I think you'll surprise yourself by leaving it stock, and even (gasp!) underclocking it. CPU clockrate is one of many possible bottlenecks and considering the 1.5 and 1.6 official roms were capped at 384 (or 352 I can't remember), I doubt it is the culprit of possible slowdowns. I run at 384 almost all of the time and have noticed no side effect except for extreme battery life and added stability (615 gives me reboots). The only differences I've seen overclocking make are in fractal rendering apps and benchtests but Pandas vs. Ninjas and Raging Thunder rock at 384.
glad to see I'm not alone with this
I can still see the phone running out of ram when alot is going on, but its ok.
I'll try your suggestion and underclock the phone.
Another small tweak I just found:
under mobile network settings there is an option "only use 2G", which is checked by default. turning this off improved my connection speed (obviously).
but again this comes at the cost of battery-life.
Hello.
I have a general question I have been searching for on Google and the forum here. I am wondering if someone could tell me some areas that I will notice the benefits of overclocking. What I mean is, I understand it speeds up the CPU, but other than running a quadrant score (which means nothing to me really) where would you see the results to the naked eye?
Since flashing Lightspeed ROM and using Thor's Kernals it does appear that my internet pages load faster and the boot animations load faster. I think it seems like my thumb keyboards pop up a slight bit faster as well.
Are these the noticeable changes? Or are they just in my head since I am overclocking? (OR I think I am)
I am using SetCPU and have the Max set to about 1.5 and the Min set to 1.0 or 1.2 most of the time.
If someone could weigh in with some more knowledgeable information and possibly point me to a nice write up for Noobs like me who are interested in learning more about the benefits of Overclocking as well as maybe a guide for advice using SetCPU (or another App?) that is more recommended by those on here, I would appreciate it!
Thanks!!
Mine's takes about 30 seconds to boot from vibrate to lock screen if that makes any difference. OC to 1.5 using taboonay 2.0 with HV 3.4 kernal.
Mine defiantly seems to boot up faster. I do not play a lot of game on the tab, mainly just internet and movies, so I am not sure I am doing anything that would require such an increase in graphics speed that I am noticing the major differences. Right now I have mine set to about 1.4 and it is very stable with no problems. If I go to 1.6 I notice things start FC'ing more often.
HD playback has definitely improved since overclocking on 3.1, some 720p videos that suffered from random slow downs now play flawlessly with setcpu at 1.5 on performance mode, temps always stay below 35°c hours after being set to performance.
The rest is minor improvements.
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HD playback has definitely improved since overclocking on 3.1, some 720p videos that suffered from random slow downs now play flawlessly with setcpu at 1.5 on performance mode, temps always stay below 35°c hours after being set to performance.
The rest is minor improvements.
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Thanks. I will have to take a look at that tomorrow when I am stuck on the plane for a few hours.
I know that many of us have noticed that our RAZR HD has less than perfect graphical performance...i.e. Lag on home screen, etc.
I just forced GPU rendering in developer settings and changed animations to 2x. Everything seems much smoother and more liquid. The GPU can definitely have it taken care of. I'd recommend doing this, makes a significant difference for the better.
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I too have enabled force GPU Rendering, and doing so increased my quadrant score upwards of 300 points. However, I think the smoothness you are experiencing is more due to your slowing down the transitions, thus making them easier to render and more fluid feeling. That being said, I took your advice, and it does indeed feel smoother on the 2x.
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Which animations are you changing to 2x? Window animation scale? Transition animation scale? Or animator scale?
I changed all 3. It is much more silky, but not as speedy in animations. A trade off
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changed my animation to .5 so its not slow, and its so fast I don't see lag. quadrant score went up to 5442
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changed my animation to .5 so its not slow, and its so fast I don't see lag. quadrant score went up to 5442
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If you put all three below 1 you'll lose your crt screen animation, just an fyi.
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Sorry for being a botard noob, but what is the "quadrant score" and how do I check it? I'm guessing the higher the number the better?
Thanks!
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Sorry for being a botard noob, but what is the "quadrant score" and how do I check it? I'm guessing the higher the number the better?
Thanks!
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Quadrant is a benchmark software. It gives you a score based on some tests (graphical, memory, cpu etc...). Indead the higher is better but keep in mind that it's not representative of user experience. You can have a big score in quadrant and a slow phone.
Placing animations on .5x makes then appear faster and have less lag, but in reality all that is doing is hiding stutter and lag with superfast frame rates.
IPhone and windows phone could certainly have faster animations but that defeats the purpose...the purpose is for a silky smooth and quality set of transitions and animations. Moving animations and transitions to 1.5x helps a lot in this goal.
For example, if you take a look at the new animations in the app tray when opening an app in jelly bean, they aren't necessarily superfast...but they are generally fluid, smooth and appealing to the eye.
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Placing animations on .5x makes then appear faster and have less lag, but in reality all that is doing is hiding stutter and lag with superfast frame rates.
IPhone and windows phone could certainly have faster animations but that defeats the purpose...the purpose is for a silky smooth and quality set of transitions and animations. Moving animations and transitions to 1.5x helps a lot in this goal.
For example, if you take a look at the new animations in the app tray when opening an app in jelly bean, they aren't necessarily superfast...but they are generally fluid, smooth and appealing to the eye.
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Changing animation speeds to 0.5 does speed them up. Open the phone or messaging at on 1.0x setting then do the same at 0.5. It doesn't simply appear faster, it IS faster. In fact, if you turn off the animations completely, these apps open instantly. No lag, no stutter.
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Changing animation speeds to 0.5 does speed them up. Open the phone or messaging at on 1.0x setting then do the same at 0.5. It doesn't simply appear faster, it IS faster. In fact, if you turn off the animations completely, these apps open instantly. No lag, no stutter.
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Exactly what we're going for, right? Speed and efficiency. Sure, the graphics of things moving when they open and close is neat to see, but if it looks like the graphic is moving through syrup, it kills speed and efficiency.
If 0.5x looks smooth, but really isn't, who cares? You don't notice it anyway, so it's a non-issue at this point (all while speeding up the graphic opening and closing).
Enabling this preference in developer options offloads task of rendering window components like buttons, text and complex 2d graphics calculations to GPU. This often results in much faster UI rendering including animations.
On one side you will definitely achieve better frame rate (and hence smooth experience) throughout system, but you may end up using more battery. On certain devices, GPU consumes more power the CPU, hence you may observe 5-15% lower battery life with option enabled.
I would recommend having this option enabled on devices with weaker CPUs e.g. You should seldom need to enable this on dual-core 1.4ghz ARM CPU.
offloading UI rendering to GPU has obvious benefits so that CPU can work on other important tasks like database IO, data manipulation, layout calculations and responding to other user inputs.
Hi all, i'm looking to upgrade to a nexus 4 and have heard praises for it's smoothness..
For those who have used a nexus 4 for a while, have you found any other phone smoother in ui experience?
...i can't stand things like skipped frames, stutters etc... this question especially for those playing around with the new sgs4 for comparison as it's a potential choice..
UI wise its buttery smooth, but some 3rd party apps are compete crap and will lag regardless of phone.
I am running Xylon ROM with Matrix kernel and also Nova launcher, phone is smooth as butter, very fast, zero lag.
I can almost guarantee that the GS4 won't be any smoother in day-to-day performance. I haven't found any phones which are better than the N4, and although the iPhone is obviously on par with the smoothness it makes so many compromises that you can't really compare them. The only place you'll potentially find lag is in third party apps as said above.
Stock kernel has the least lag in the UI.
Almost all custom kernels i tried do stutter regularly
To be honest, I never feel it lag on day to day usage but once it gets hot while playing games, it does throttle pretty quickly which leads to unexpected lag on the phone. But overall, as long as app is well coded, you shouldn't feel much lag.
Also like people said, flashing custom kernel will improve your performance and battery life dramatically. Running Franco with Paranoid Android and everything is buttery smooth!
I never used galaxy s 4 but I doubt that it'll be any smoother. S3 felt more laggy for me compared to Nexus 4 if that helps
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UI is pure buttery smooth. They have a S4 Launcher.zip you can flash somewhere in the Themes and Apps forums. If you want to have a S4 experience just flash that. Its still smooth lol.
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To be honest, I never feel it lag on day to day usage but once it gets hot while playing games, it does throttle pretty quickly which leads to unexpected lag on the phone. But overall, as long as app is well coded, you shouldn't feel much lag.
Also like people said, flashing custom kernel will improve your performance and battery life dramatically. Running Franco with Paranoid Android and everything is buttery smooth!
I never used galaxy s 4 but I doubt that it'll be any smoother. S3 felt more laggy for me compared to Nexus 4 if that helps
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thank you all for your reassuring feedback, might just wait for the alleged 32gb refresh of nexus 4.....yea the throttling issue is a bummer..for those who want an in depth analysis of this nexus 4 throttling can look at this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abf7nPiUUE8
All modern smart phones have thermal throttling. It's just that the nexus 4 has an extremely low threshold on the battery sensor which is set to start throttling at just 36 degrees Celsius, which in a hot environment leaves little lee way if any at all.
The lg optimus sister phone has the same CPU and battery but has a much higher set threshold regards the battery temp. No one seems sure why Google set the nexus 4 one so low; my grannies flat is hotter
.. I edited my thermald.conf to higher threshold of 44 degrees Celsius and along with a 150mv UV I have to really push my phone to get throttling.
even while gaming eg in NFS/other heavy games?.......any risk of bricking the cpu/gpu by setting throttling higher?
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even while gaming eg in NFS/other heavy games?.......any risk of bricking the cpu/gpu by setting throttling higher?
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Increasing a little bit SHOULDN'T effect too much, but I wouldn't recommend that. There must be a reason why Google or LG decided to keep the throttle that low, and I am not going to argue about that as I'm not a huge gamer on my phone and the maximum time I played on my phone is 1.5hrs.
thats pretty cool...did you manage to circumvent fps drops in your game?
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thats pretty cool...did you manage to circumvent fps drops in your game?
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I've never really checked with games, most games I play don't tax the phone at all.
I ran antutu 4 times in a row to see if it would throttle and it didn't, that's the only real test I performed.
I haven't seen a phone smoother than nexus 4 on stock kernel. I also own an HTC one and it has a smooth ui, but my nexus 4 is a bit smoother than it.
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This the smoothest phone i ever came across
NEXUS⁴
No way to measure smoothness. Useless thread.
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No way to measure smoothness. Useless thread.
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:what:
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I've had the SGS 4. Its nowhere near as smooth as the Nexus. I returned it and went back to the Nexus. Never going to a non-stock phone again.
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you know what lags? texting. I dont know why. I use the stock keyboard.
My nexus 4 lags from time to time. I'm on cm10.1 with nova launcher. Home screen stutters sometimes. Opening and scrolling through the app drawer, messaging, or email stutters at times. (I have the music playing and low signal when I notice it.)
I don't know why people say it doesn't lag because, clearly, it does. The nexus 4 isn't up to, "par" with the iPhone UI. Sure, the 4.2.2 is buttery smooth, but I never seen an iPhone stutter, hiccup, or lag while my Nexus 4 occasionally will. Biggest gripe is when I open and swipe in the app drawer; The animation and picture loading lags when I scroll through it like a madman to test it and it drives me nuts, however nova launcher made it better.
Nexus 4 compared to Sense or Touchwiz, yeah, stock Android blows both out of the water in UI animations.