[Q] Nexus 4 giving up - alternatives for replacement? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My beloved Nexus 4 is finally giving up. A vertical zone on the touch screen is no longer responsive and I can't type 'R', 'F' or 'X' on the standard Google keyboard (swedish) when in portrait mode. I guess trying to fix it is not worth the effort, which leads me to the following (possibly off-topic) question: what could be a worthy successor to my Nexus 4 that has served me well for so long? Nexus 5? Nexus 6? Fairphone? Anything else?

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[Q] Return nexus 7?

Impulse purchase. I have an amazing ereader, a galaxy s2, a laptop and pc.
I've been playing around with the nexus 7 now for almost a week. I have another week before I can return it with no questions asked. What else can this nexus 7 offer me? Should I keep it or return it?
What is everyone doing with their nexus 7 when you have an amazing phone handy?
I'm currently streaming videos online, browse a bit and play some games. I could do this all on my phone.... Right? What makes this more superior? (other than the obvious "bigger screen") why not get the nexus 10? An even bigger screen!
I'm open to ideas and I would love to hear them. I would love to keep this tablet if there's a very solid reason.
I find the 10 inch tabs too big to be truly portable. My tab 10.1 usually stays at home while I take my Nexus 7 out more. I have an s2 but find I'm using the 7 more so the S2 battery is lasting way longer. That in itself is enough reason for me to keep it
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[Q] Will swipe to wake be available?

Hey guys,
I'm interested in buying a new smartphone for my sister. The trick is that she's handicapped, so one major requirement is either a swipe to wake, or a front home button (like the Galaxy S series has).
I saw that the Galaxy Nexus has the s2w feature and am planning to buy that for her (and install a kernel that has support for PGM Nexus), but was wondering if the LG Nexus 4 might have this feature in the see-able feature (a few weeks from now)?
Thanks in advance
PGM Nexus developer would make it for Nexus 4 if he had the device so lets hope he gets one
Source: http://forum.ponury.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=783
Doesn't look like any sweep/swipe 2 wake kernel is out yet for the Nexus 4 though
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2019081&highlight=pgm

Should I sell my Nexus 10 and buy the new 7?

Do you guys think it's a good change or not worth it? My main reason alone is size.
Normally I like bigger tablets, but the 16:10 aspect ratio of the Nexus 10 combined with a 10.10 inch screen size makes it really uncomfortable to use in both portrait and landscape.
In portrait its too long and tall and in landscape not much content is shown on websites, forums, etc.
So that's why I'm thinking the Nexus 7 might be a better choice for me. I tried the original 7 a couple of weeks ago and it was nice. I'm concerned I might miss the bigger screen of the 10 too much, specially for web browsing and videos. Everything else should be better in the 7: playing games (the 10 is too big to play games comfortably in landscape. My thumbs almost don't reach the on screen buttons), reading forums with Tapatalk, YouTube browsing, eBook reading, e-mail, viewing pictures, etc.
Plus with the 7 I would get 32GB for much less than with another Nexus 10. Mine is 16GB now.
Anyone has changed from a Nexus 10 to the new 7? It still has 2GB RAM, HD screen, etc. So it's not that different.
What do you guys think? Should I make the change?
Thanks.
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Sensamic said:
Do you guys think it's a good change or not worth it? My main reason alone is size.
Normally I like bigger tablets, but the 16:10 aspect ratio of the Nexus 10 combined with a 10.10 inch screen size makes it really uncomfortable to use in both portrait and landscape.
In portrait its too long and tall and in landscape not much content is shown on websites, forums, etc.
So that's why I'm thinking the Nexus 7 might be a better choice for me. I tried the original 7 a couple of weeks ago and it was nice. I'm concerned I might miss the bigger screen of the 10 too much, specially for web browsing and videos. Everything else should be better in the 7: playing games (the 10 is too big to play games comfortably in landscape. My thumbs almost don't reach the on screen buttons), reading forums with Tapatalk, YouTube browsing, eBook reading, e-mail, viewing pictures, etc.
Plus with the 7 I would get 32GB for much less than with another Nexus 10. Mine is 16GB now.
Anyone has changed from a Nexus 10 to the new 7? It still has 2GB RAM, HD screen, etc. So it's not that different.
What do you guys think? Should I make the change?
Thanks.
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Well you need to check your priorities. Before the nexus 7 I always thought a bigger tablet would be always better. I enjoy more the nexus 7 cause i usae it to read a lot, and the nexus 10 is kinda big to read comfortably, and it's heavy, the nexus 7 is comapct and a great tablet to read check your mail, browse the web and etc...
buut, if you use it like a notebook, with bluetooth keyboard to write documents, or to play games with a bluetooth controller ( that's great) and that kinda stuff the nexus 10 is a better choice.
Today i wouldn't trade my nexus 7 for a nexus 10.
I did (but selling the N10 2 months before the new Nexus 7 became available). I am very happy with the switch. For all intents and purposes, the Nexus 7 took the Nexus 10's soft touch feel and made the screen brighter. It really comes down to a question of style. Do you like the size of magazines and 8x10 notebooks more than the size of hardcover novels and day planners.
Another upside is, if you don't like the Nexus 7, it looks like the Nexus 10 is getting a revision this fall with a much faster processor (and that tablet release will reduce the resale value of the original Nexus 10 just as the original Nexus 7 prices fell with the new one.
What I now want post N7 is a top notch 4.0-4.3" phone (HTC First sized + microSD).
Sensamic said:
Do you guys think it's a good change or not worth it? My main reason alone is size.
Normally I like bigger tablets, but the 16:10 aspect ratio of the Nexus 10 combined with a 10.10 inch screen size makes it really uncomfortable to use in both portrait and landscape.
In portrait its too long and tall and in landscape not much content is shown on websites, forums, etc.
So that's why I'm thinking the Nexus 7 might be a better choice for me. I tried the original 7 a couple of weeks ago and it was nice. I'm concerned I might miss the bigger screen of the 10 too much, specially for web browsing and videos. Everything else should be better in the 7: playing games (the 10 is too big to play games comfortably in landscape. My thumbs almost don't reach the on screen buttons), reading forums with Tapatalk, YouTube browsing, eBook reading, e-mail, viewing pictures, etc.
Plus with the 7 I would get 32GB for much less than with another Nexus 10. Mine is 16GB now.
Anyone has changed from a Nexus 10 to the new 7? It still has 2GB RAM, HD screen, etc. So it's not that different.
What do you guys think? Should I make the change?
Thanks.
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I feel like a powerful home computer, 7 inch tablet, and an LTE smartphone is the best setup you can have.
A ten inch tablet is just too big to be used comfortably around the house. I used to use the iPad 2 a couple years back as my main media consumption device but switched to the OG Nexus 7 on release day. I recently upgraded to the new Nexus 7 and don't plan on switching to anything larger than 8.9 inches.
If I were you I would pick up a 32Gb and see how you like it. If it's not for you then return it and keep your Nexus 10. If you like it then keep it and sell the Nexus 10.
Either way the N10 and N7 are both great tabs you can't go wrong with.
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I'm wondering if I should sell my iPad 3 for the the nexus . iOS is just boring .
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That's a decision only you can make, honestly! You know what your wants and needs are, we don't. I just bought my '13 Nexus 7 last night from my local Best Buy. That said, I still have and still love my Asus Infinity (10" tablet) and I definitely would NOT sell it! I also have an Evo LTE and a Note 2, but wanted a 7" tablet as well. I was going to buy the Nexus 7 at the first of the year, but heard rumors that an HD version was in the works so I waited for it. I'll still use my Asus Infinity as my primary gaming tablet, played Dead Trigger last night actually. Paired with the Sixaxis app and a PS3 controller, it can't be beat! Especially with its mini HDMI port built in to the side and hooked to me 55" LED TV!! I do like that the Nexus 7 is more portable, and will also use it to read my Google Play Magazine subscriptions. No way I could give up my 10" tablet though! If i had to decide between the 2, I'd take back my Nexus 7 and keep my Infinity, no doubt about it! With the ability to have both though, the Nexus 7 is a nice addition to my Android line-up!! If I were you, and had to decide between the 2, then I'd keep the Nexus 10! That's just MY opinion based on my wants/needs though. That's why I say that only you can decide which device fits your wants/needs the best! Good luck with your decision!!
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In a word: No.
I have both the N10 and the N7.
The N10 is a better consumption device. The larger screen is better for watching videos, playing games, browsing the web, reading ebooks - you can fit two pages on it at a time- and you can view magazine pages better on it.
The N7 is more portable. You can hold it with one hand.
The screen on the new nexus 7 is really sharp, I can't tell a difference in reading text on it versus the 10. That combined with the better form factor makes the N10 obsolete for me personally. I don't really think Android (or iOS for that matter) is suited for a 10" screen. Sure it helps if you are watching videos but if I'm watching something for longer than 15 mins I will usually just use my Laptop or TV.
The only thing I miss from the nexus 10 was the TRUE rubber back. The new nexus 7 doesn't really compare to the soft touch of the back cover on the N10.
If you vastly prefer the 10" screen though I would recommend selling anyway, that way you can get a nice chunk of change back to purchase the new nexus 10, which will apparently have a qualcomm in it, none of the exynos bull****.
I think you just being hypnotized by the newness of a new nexus, I am feeling this even though pound for pound my note 10.1 is better, but I will say this, the nexus 7 is a very comfortable and portable device
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Sensamic said:
Normally I like bigger tablets, but the 16:10 aspect ratio of the Nexus 10 combined with a 10.10 inch screen size makes it really uncomfortable to use in both portrait and landscape.
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I'm with you 100%. I bought the 10 but am going to return it. Other than watching movies, I just don't think 16x10 works for a tablet that big. It's awkward to hold and despite being a huge screen I'm always feeling squeezed and wishing it were 4x3.
I find myself using the 7 more. The only time the 10 wins out is if I'm sitting on the couch and can comfortably rest the 10 on my lap. But as soon as I lie down, move around, etc I am reaching for the 7. I don't love 16x7 on the 7 either but its easy enough to hold and type that the length doesn't hinder usability.
If you could I would do both! I have a n10 and note 8. I mainly use the 8 to travel or take it to work and it fits nicely in my glove compartment. My n10 stays at home and is used to play music, games, watch videos and a huge remote for my TV. Some people might think its too much but I find it perfect for my needs. Ohh and I also have a note 2!!! Thinking of picking up the new n7 for the wife.
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guess u can play games easily and good in enw nexus 7! its snap dragon s4pro
It's a hard choice. I like bigger screen tablets because I don't have a laptop, but I've been thinking of changing to another tablet for some months now, just because the Nexus 10 is too uncomfortable to use.
That's the only reason. The 7 is too small for web browsing, but everything else should be ok.
Don't know what to do. I won't buy another 10 inch tablet because all of them have the same aspect ratio, so the only choices are keep the Nexus 10 or buy the 7.
It has to be a Nexus tablet obviously.
I had a nexus 10 back I. December/January that I returned. I like it a lot but I couldn't justify it since I already had a nexus 7. My other complaint was the colors and view angles. I hope the next nexus 10 has the same type of panel as this new nexus 7. This panel is literally perfect.
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The 7 is too small for web browsing, but everything else should be ok.
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x100.
I tried browsing the web last night with my N7v2, and the screen was just too small. I had to zoom in every time to accurately click on links or the "Next" button on forums.
I will be returning the N7v2 in about a week though - it's a fun toy and all, but I much prefer my N10.
It's funny because I used to agree with the majority of the posters here, about how the N10 is too uncomfortable to hold. I first bought the N7v1 and thought it was perfect to hold. Then I gave it away. Then I bought an N10 and first thought it was too awkward and cumbersome to hold - but after using it for a few days, I got used to it. I also much preferred the larger screen for everything - gaming, quick YouTube videos, browsing the internet - what I mostly do with it. Reading magazines is a pleasure with the 10 inch screen of the N10, but it's way too small for the N7v2.
The N7v2 also isn't as nice to hold as the N7v1. The N7v2 is narrower in portrait mode - which makes it more difficult to text, because your thumbs are overreaching when you search for keys. The N7v2 is also wider in landscape mode - which makes it more difficult to text, because now your thumbs just can't quite reach the keys as easily. The N7v1 is still the best tablet to hold IMO.
Just my opinion though.
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The N7v2 also isn't as nice to hold as the N7v1. The N7v2 is narrower in portrait mode - which makes it more difficult to text, because your thumbs are overreaching when you search for keys. The N7v2 is also wider in landscape mode - which makes it more difficult to text, because now your thumbs just can't quite reach the keys as easily. The N7v1 is still the best tablet to hold IMO.
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I actually just bought a N7v1 for exactly this reason. I think the v2 is going back. It feels soooo much better in my hands. And while the v2 resolution is better I don't have s lot desire to read microscopic fonts. If the characters are small enough to be jagged on the v1 then I'm pinching and zooming anyway. For fonts that are reasonably sized the v1 ppi is fine.
Call me crazy but for $150 new I'll take the v1 until something more appealing comes along.
rumatt said:
I actually just bought a N7v1 for exactly this reason. I think the v2 is going back. It feels soooo much better in my hands. And while the v2 resolution is better I don't have s lot desire to read microscopic fonts. If the characters are small enough to be jagged on the v1 then I'm pinching and zooming anyway. For fonts that are reasonably sized the v1 ppi is fine.
Call me crazy but for $150 new I'll take the v1 until something more appealing comes along.
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I too find that the nexus 7 v1 feels better in hand than the second one, the second one feels too slippery, like its gonna fall of my hands.
But except that I prefer the v 2
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The thing I don't like about the n10 is that a lot of phone apps force you to turn it in portrait. Blatantly obvious that it doesn't thrive in portrait.
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I guess if i were you , i would wait for refreshed nexus 10 coming by october/november.
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I'm not too much interested in the next one because it probably will be the same size and aspect ratio as the original Nexus 10, which is my only problem with the tablet: 16:10 aspect ratio is uncomfortable.
That's why I was thinking maybe the Nexus 7 would be better, but I'm still not sure.
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[q] should i buy nexus 7

OK so I know I probably came to the wrong thread, but my question is aimed specifically at people who use the nexus 5 and also own a nexus 7. Is the screen that much of a difference? Is it worth being a companion to my pretty big nexus 5 or should I not waste my dinero and buy a mid range tab for a bigger contrast in screen size? I was thinking lg g pad cause of the processor upgrade from the nexus 7, screen size, and storage expansion. but it is early 2014 not sure if I should wait for this years tablets to come out and make a decision.
most people here are using the original nexus 7 from 2012,you can buy one of those for around $90 on craigslist or around 110 on ebay.
i dont have a nexus 5 but i own a droid dna and the nexus 5 has a slightly bigger screen but honestly,a 7 inch tablet is way better for reading or just laying down and watching a movie compared to most phones, even the bigger ones.
if i were you ,id get the newer nexus 7 tho ,its slimmer and has better specs,but the original can be bought cheap and it will still handle pretty much anything as the specs are not too outdated yet,
N7 is awesome. Its the perfect size and imo the best bang for your buck device
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Can we help you with Buying your Undies too.
I have a Note 2 phone with 5.5 inch screen. The 7 inch screen is so much better then even this monster phone.I also have a note 10.1.. I love the screen size on it.But it does not fit in my purse.
I would say yes its worth it ..But you gotta ask yourself some questions. How much money you are willing to spend. Do you need it NOW. How much storage space do you need. Do you need a network radio in it .
After you come up with the above answers if . question one is you have plenty of money and question 2 is you DO NOT have to have it this day. Wait and get the next greatest thing. a
Well you can figure the rest out.
I can tell you its a awesome device.. GET 32 GB Version. You will be glad you did.
Good Luck
They're exactly the same interface and software wise, except some apps are displayed in tablet mode, which is usually better but sometimes worse. Another difference is also that in landscape, the virtual buttons are portrait on the right on Nexus 5 and on Nexus 7 they are landscape on the bottom, wasting precious screen height. These virtual buttons are the only thing I hate about the Nexus 7, after removing them with apps in the Store, you gain a lot of screen space. However, Nexus 5 is 16:9, while Nexus 7 is 16:10, so the visible screen is more or less the same in the end.
I mostly use it in portrait mode because of that.
As I said, that is the only thing that bugs me about it. Otherwise, it's a great little tablet, great size for watching movies, series on the go (or in bed), it should play all games available in the Store and do all other unproductive things you can do on a tablet.
I had a 2011 Xperia Arc S before, and with it's single core CPU it quickly failed to play latest games, that's why I resorted to the Nexus 7.
Nexus 5, however, is newer, has the latest hardware and is capable of playing anything you throw at it, so getting a Nexus 7 is really only for extra screen size, but it does pay off. Maybe diagonal isn't the best measure, try screen area:
Nexus 5: 69 cm^2
Nexus 7: 142 cm^2
So the screen is actually double the size of the Nexus 5, and it's noticeably bigger when watching videos.
If you're going to mostly use it to watch videos, get the N7, if you're primarily going to surf the internet and read documents and such, I'd recommend you to check out the 8" tablets LG Pad 8.3 and Samsung 8" (tab or note), both come with buttons on the side and therefore have more vertical pixels (both 16:10).
Then there's also 2013 Nexus 7, with latest chip and 16:10 fullHD but it's quite pricier then its 2012 brother.
Why would you need a tablet for anyway? If you want it because it's popular, then forget about it. If you have other reasons, write them down, it's easier to recommend that way.
I would highly recommend the original Nexus 7 (as long as you don't need HDMI out) ts still a great tablet and works well and you can get it for a great price. I would highly recommend you DON'T get the 2013 it has known defects with the screen (do some research).
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rmn6 said:
I would highly recommend the original Nexus 7 (as long as you don't need HDMI out) ts still a great tablet and works well and you can get it for a great price. I would highly recommend you DON'T get the 2013 it has known defects with the screen (do some research).
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It works great for me, it is highly customizable, gets latest android,price is great for the 2012 model.
I own both, Nexus 5 and Nexus 7 (2012). Have to say that N5 screen is awesome, but still N7 screen is nice and totally usable and it's so cheap, that you can later easily change to some other device if you want.
One good thing is that, the Nexus 7 is still supported by Google so you get official updates at least some time. When Google drop support, then you can always use custom roms.
Personally I buy only Nexus devices, because they get always best support from Google and maybe best community support.
Is there any noticeable lag if using the stock 4.4.2 ? For example newer games etc
martikung said:
Is there any noticeable lag if using the stock 4.4.2 ? For example newer games etc
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I don't play much games, but on normal usage stock 4.4.2 is working smoothly without any noticeable lag. And yes, you can't compare speed to N5, but old N7 is not bad at all if we compare example to N4.
Do you have some free example game(s) what you mean? I can test and let you know is it working smoothly or not... Maybe this info is useful to @BNNEBULA too.

[Q] Is it still worth buying? Input appreciated!

Hello,
So its been more or less a year since the nexus 7 2013 came out. And rumors have been there online about a 'nexus 8' coming out soon. I honestly do not care about that since it will then become a rat race of sorts.
My dilemma is that I need to buy a tablet, a week from now, for studying purposes. Like mandatory buying. Since there will be a lot of reading and watching videos(~6 hours a day in the library), my first thought was getting this tablet. Since the screen resolution is off the charts for a 7 inch screen. Plus its budget friendly.
But since I already have a nexus 5 (I have tried watching my videos on it but it burns my eyes after a couple of hours, plus the videos are SD), would it really make a difference to buy this tablet? Any advice/input would be appreciated.
Oh and where I live, I cant get my hands on a un-sealed nexus 7 so I cant compare the screen size versus my nexus 5.
Thanks in advance!
EDIT: Another tablet I thought of was Ipad Mini 1st gen (non retina). But then again, Apple official stop mini 1st gen support end of this year..
I would stick with an Android tablet. They are cheaper to begin with and generally have better battery in my experience.
I would recommend getting the Nexus 7 2013 and maybe installing a custom kernel and ROM since it looks like you're going to be watching a lot of video and want the battery to last as long as possible.
Heck, I still have my Nexus 7 2012 and it works like a dream with RastaKat installed.
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TheLastSidekick said:
I would stick with an Android tablet. They are cheaper to begin with and generally have better battery in my experience.
I would recommend getting the Nexus 7 2013 and maybe installing a custom kernel and ROM since it looks like you're going to be watching a lot of video and want the battery to last as long as possible.
Heck, I still have my Nexus 7 2012 and it works like a dream with RastaKat installed.
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I plan on installing ROMs and kernels yes
I see you have a nexus 5. Would you happen to have an idea of the screen size difference in person between nexus 5 and nexus 7 2013? If I'm not mistaken, your nexus 7 2012 is almost the same size as the 2013 counterpart, so how much better would you rate ( out of 10, the higher the better)watching a video on your nexus 5 versus nexus 7?
Thank you
Nexus 5 is a bit clearer. As for the sizes the names of the devices speak for themselves. Nexus 5 clocks in around 4.97 inches IPS display if I'm right.
I don't know much about the Nexus 7 2013 but from what I read about the reviews and my friends who have used it love it.
That being said when it comes to size between the Nexus 5 and N7 2012 I'd love watch it on my tablet but for clarity I'd watch on my N5 in 1080p.
The N7 2013 isn't too far behind the Nexus 5 so I wouldn't worry about quality too much honestly.
Also while we're on the topic of devices I own I do Not own an S4. I'm using a Milk Music bypass where I have to modify the build.prop to show up as a Samsung device.
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This thread has been helpful, thank you.
I have a Nexus 4, Nexus 7 2012 and Nexus 7 2013...
My take?
Buy either Nexus 7 for media consumption and use your Nexus 5 as a phone/more portable device. 7" makes a difference even over the 5" screens I've seen.
As far as screen quality, the 2012 is actually not bad at 720p, but definitely the 1080p screen on the 2013 is excellent.
BIG warning though: The Nexus 7 2013 is extremely fragile. Within weeks of buying it, I had chips on the bezel despite it being in a rubberized case and never dropped. No idea how it happened. Then it warped while being in my pocket. You could lay it face down and it would tip back and forth. Then, I dropped it (my bad) and the screen shattered. Screen replacement is incredibly difficult, don't let anyone lie to you. I nearly destroyed the plastic bezel by overheating it to remove the glass. It made me sick since I have the LTE version and the bezel CANNOT be bought. I am probably going to "repair" the damaged area with rubber cement or epoxy to properly support the glass so it doesn't flex, and simply have an ugly bezel with no resale value.

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