[Q] Is it still worth buying? Input appreciated! - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello,
So its been more or less a year since the nexus 7 2013 came out. And rumors have been there online about a 'nexus 8' coming out soon. I honestly do not care about that since it will then become a rat race of sorts.
My dilemma is that I need to buy a tablet, a week from now, for studying purposes. Like mandatory buying. Since there will be a lot of reading and watching videos(~6 hours a day in the library), my first thought was getting this tablet. Since the screen resolution is off the charts for a 7 inch screen. Plus its budget friendly.
But since I already have a nexus 5 (I have tried watching my videos on it but it burns my eyes after a couple of hours, plus the videos are SD), would it really make a difference to buy this tablet? Any advice/input would be appreciated.
Oh and where I live, I cant get my hands on a un-sealed nexus 7 so I cant compare the screen size versus my nexus 5.
Thanks in advance!
EDIT: Another tablet I thought of was Ipad Mini 1st gen (non retina). But then again, Apple official stop mini 1st gen support end of this year..

I would stick with an Android tablet. They are cheaper to begin with and generally have better battery in my experience.
I would recommend getting the Nexus 7 2013 and maybe installing a custom kernel and ROM since it looks like you're going to be watching a lot of video and want the battery to last as long as possible.
Heck, I still have my Nexus 7 2012 and it works like a dream with RastaKat installed.
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TheLastSidekick said:
I would stick with an Android tablet. They are cheaper to begin with and generally have better battery in my experience.
I would recommend getting the Nexus 7 2013 and maybe installing a custom kernel and ROM since it looks like you're going to be watching a lot of video and want the battery to last as long as possible.
Heck, I still have my Nexus 7 2012 and it works like a dream with RastaKat installed.
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I plan on installing ROMs and kernels yes
I see you have a nexus 5. Would you happen to have an idea of the screen size difference in person between nexus 5 and nexus 7 2013? If I'm not mistaken, your nexus 7 2012 is almost the same size as the 2013 counterpart, so how much better would you rate ( out of 10, the higher the better)watching a video on your nexus 5 versus nexus 7?
Thank you

Nexus 5 is a bit clearer. As for the sizes the names of the devices speak for themselves. Nexus 5 clocks in around 4.97 inches IPS display if I'm right.
I don't know much about the Nexus 7 2013 but from what I read about the reviews and my friends who have used it love it.
That being said when it comes to size between the Nexus 5 and N7 2012 I'd love watch it on my tablet but for clarity I'd watch on my N5 in 1080p.
The N7 2013 isn't too far behind the Nexus 5 so I wouldn't worry about quality too much honestly.
Also while we're on the topic of devices I own I do Not own an S4. I'm using a Milk Music bypass where I have to modify the build.prop to show up as a Samsung device.
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thanks
This thread has been helpful, thank you.

I have a Nexus 4, Nexus 7 2012 and Nexus 7 2013...
My take?
Buy either Nexus 7 for media consumption and use your Nexus 5 as a phone/more portable device. 7" makes a difference even over the 5" screens I've seen.
As far as screen quality, the 2012 is actually not bad at 720p, but definitely the 1080p screen on the 2013 is excellent.
BIG warning though: The Nexus 7 2013 is extremely fragile. Within weeks of buying it, I had chips on the bezel despite it being in a rubberized case and never dropped. No idea how it happened. Then it warped while being in my pocket. You could lay it face down and it would tip back and forth. Then, I dropped it (my bad) and the screen shattered. Screen replacement is incredibly difficult, don't let anyone lie to you. I nearly destroyed the plastic bezel by overheating it to remove the glass. It made me sick since I have the LTE version and the bezel CANNOT be bought. I am probably going to "repair" the damaged area with rubber cement or epoxy to properly support the glass so it doesn't flex, and simply have an ugly bezel with no resale value.

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Please help me decide between Nexus 10 and Galaxy note 8

I am having a lot of trouble deciding between these two devices, particularly because the nexus 10 is not available to try out at any physical store in my area so I'd be going on just online feedback alone. I made myself a little pro/con list. I am hoping that by seeing what I see, maybe someone can help me tip the scales in one direction or the other!
Galaxy note 8 (not considering ipad mini, i like the note better)
Pros
-I am a physician, the size is perfect for carrying around the hospital in my white coat. As a former owner of an ipad 3, carrying that around was annoying.
-Colors look bright
-S-pen. I don't use it a whole lot on my note 2 phone, but i also dont take notes on my phone. I hope to be able to use my tablet for reading pdfs, highlighting and even following along in lectures. This provides that opportunity.
Cons
-Price, very difficult pill to swallow the price for half the resolution and processing power.
-Lack of XDA support (can this tablet even be rooted? Huge concern for me if not), I'm sort of a flashaholic.
-Havent had a chance to watch an HD movie yet.. can someone comment on what I might expect to see quality wise compared to my old ipad 3 and even the nexus 10?
Google Nexus 10
Pros
-Easily the most beautiful display available, I am a techie who wants the best and brightest
-Always updated by google blah blah, stock android
-Amazing developer community
Cons
-Size, I do like that tablet to fit in my whitecoat and not be cumbersome in the hospital all day
-I'd be buying blind, I have never seen a galaxy 10 tablet in person (ive seen the 7 but i know theyre very different)
Personally id go for the Nexus 7. I dont know how big your lab coat is but it can fit into a suit jacket snugly. I dont think you will see a big size difference between a Nexus 10 and a Note 8, and like you mentioned they are charging an arm and a leg for a vastly underequipped device because it is a "Note"
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Personally id go for the Nexus 7. I dont know how big your lab coat is but it can fit into a suit jacket snugly. I dont think you will see a big size difference between a Nexus 10 and a Note 8, and like you mentioned they are charging an arm and a leg for a vastly underequipped device because it is a "Note"
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i thought about the nexus 7 but i found that extra inch pretty clutch for doing practice exam questions and viewing imaging. The 8" also would fit perfectly in the pocket (obviously 7" would too)
Nexus 10 On the Way
I recently purchased the $139 refurb deal on the Nexus 7 and while it's a nice tablet I found that the screen size was too small. I already have a Note 2 as my phone and found that the Nexus 7 didn't offer enough to justify using it over my Note 2. I ended up giving it to my kids to use. I next considered the Note 8 and the Nexus 10 just like you. I ultimately decided that I probably wouldn't be happy with the 8" screen size either. The reduced size Android tablets are designed mainly for vertical orientation and so make you feel like you are just using a scaled up phone, which doesn't appeal to me. I also think the Note 8 is over-priced. If Samsung made a Note 10 with a high-res display I would definitely get it, but they don't. I just can't see dropping money on a tablet that uses a 1280 resolution display. So I decided to go for the refurb deal on the Nexus 10 in the 32gb model. Like you I haven't ever seen one but like the idea of the high-res display and the Nexus brand (get updates right from Google). At $429 with free shipping I figure its worth ordering just to try out. Mine should be arriving tomorrow. Here is where I ordered from:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/330899402811
I bought the Note 8. I also have / had the Galaxy Tab 10.1, Nexus 7, and iPad 3.
The Note 8 is for people who need to use it to write handwritten notes. None of the other tablets I've used come close to the Note 8 if that is what you need. The size is perfect for note taking. It can take the same amount and size notes on its smaller screen as the iPad can in zoomed mode. However if you do not need the note taking aspect of this tablet, you would be right to think it's over priced. I liked the Nexus 7 size better, it was just more comfortable to hold. The original Samsung 10.1 tablet is slow and the screen is not that great, but it is still my preferred device for videos, mostly because it can display them on the largest screen due to its aspect ratio. The iPad has a beautiful screen which made it a pleasure to use, and I didn't mind its weight at work, but I rarely use it at home because it's too big and heavy. The old 10.1 Android got more use, though now that I have the Note 8 it probably won't be used much any more. My recommendation would be to buy the Nexus 10 for home, and the Note 8 for work if you need it for note taking, but if you don't need the s pen, I would wait a month and see what the next Nexus 7 or 7.7 or 8 will be. It should be announced at Google IO.
my sugestion its that stay out of nexus 10 regarding its multiply issues with build quality until you are not testing the device to the blood before buying.
good luck
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My opinion is get Nexus 10.We don't know how Note 8 exactly perform but Nexus 10 performs well at the moment.
nexus usually it s a device with alot of problems . this is what we know for shure . it a fact
bad quality control - worst device ever at this capitol
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samwheat said:
nexus usually it s a device with alot of problems . this is what we know for shure . it a fact
bad quality control - worst device ever at this capitol
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Go to any tablet on XDA and you will see just as many horror stories people returning their device 6 or 7 times due to some QC problem... Some people are just never happy. There are some legit problems but a lot of what you see is from people who get their jollys off complaining about a product they bought...
The only problem the nexus 10 has that others don't is a software issue... The thermal throttling is WAY too conservative... This can be easily fixed with a custom kernel... And as this guy says he is a flashaholic a custom kernel shouldn't be a problem...
All tablets with LCD screens have light bleed issues... If they has put an Ambled screen on this bad boy it would have raised the cost and people would have complained...
The one thing I wish is that they stuck to a 1080p res screen... There really is no reason to go above that... 1080p looks AMAZING on my 42" lcd(which by the way also has huge light bleed lol) it would look awesome on my nexus 10 especially since they probable could have gone with an AMoled screen at that res for the same price
As far as the OP goes, I I'd pick the nexus 10 lol
PS sorry for the rant lol
I just got the Note 8 today (attempting to making the switch from the Nexus 10). Both are great devices, but I just needed the S Pen feature work, so I went with the Note 8. It's too early to know which one I'll like better at the end.
I can tell you that I love the screen resolution on the Nexus 10. The Note 8 has no comparison when it comes to that department.
gqkevyn said:
I just got the Note 8 today (attempting to making the switch from the Nexus 10). Both are great devices, but I just needed the S Pen feature work, so I went with the Note 8. It's too early to know which one I'll like better at the end.
I can tell you that I love the screen resolution on the Nexus 10. The Note 8 has no comparison when it comes to that department.
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And its developments too.. Good luck.
I ended up buying both tablets today since I can return either in 15 days. SO far I'm undecided, but I am bummed out that there is no root option for the note 8.
On the flipside.. the nexus 10 is already seeming like a pain in the ass to carry around. Also, whoever designed the note 8 deserves a swift kick in the nuts for making the camera stick out on the back.
I picked uo the Galaxy note 8, 2 days ago. I am using it while on the road for work while at the hotel on the network I am watching the wifi signal strength drop ever time I cover thetop right back side of the tablet with my hand. I mean just the corner of it could any of you guys that have it check. I can post a a video if needed. You can not miss it.
Another issue is the battery life, it just goes too quick. Maybe I am not giving it enough time. If all I am going to get is 5 hours on this battery. I will take this tablet back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2229782&highlight=note+8+root
Root is available for Note 8. I used this and I can verify it works.
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Ravanous said:
I picked uo the Galaxy note 8, 2 days ago. I am using it while on the road for work while at the hotel on the network I am watching the wifi signal strength drop ever time I cover thetop right back side of the tablet with my hand. I mean just the corner of it could any of you guys that have it check. I can post a a video if needed. You can not miss it.
Another issue is the battery life, it just goes too quick. Maybe I am not giving it enough time. If all I am going to get is 5 hours on this battery. I will take this tablet back.
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I don't have any wifi issue with mine. I just tried to reproduce it, but I see no change in signal strength or Internet speed regardless of how I hold it. Check at another wifi location to rule out the hotel being the problem instead. Exchange it if it still does it.
I agree the battery could be better. It gets me through a work day, but needs to be plugged in before I'm ready to put it down for the night. The iPad does do much better with battery life. I'm not sure whether my other Android tablets are better though. Possibly, but it hasn't been noticeable to me.
kisrita said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2229782&highlight=note+8+root
Root is available for Note 8. I used this and I can verify it works.
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I don't have any wifi issue with mine. I just tried to reproduce it, but I see no change in signal strength or Internet speed regardless of how I hold it. Check at another wifi location to rule out the hotel being the problem instead. Exchange it if it still does it.
I agree the battery could be better. It gets me through a work day, but needs to be plugged in before I'm ready to put it down for the night. The iPad does do much better with battery life. I'm not sure whether my other Android tablets are better though. Possibly, but it hasn't been noticeable to me.
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Cool! very interesting.. but i assume even after root, theres no custom roms or kernels available for overclocking?
altimax98 said:
Personally id go for the Nexus 7.
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If a Nexus 7 should even be considered you need to at least wait until next month when official specs are released for the new model update that comes out in a few months.
theraker007 said:
Cool! very interesting.. but i assume even after root, theres no custom roms or kernels available for overclocking?
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If root is available this quick, those will follow soon enough even if there are none now.
Ravanous said:
I picked uo the Galaxy note 8, 2 days ago. I am using it while on the road for work while at the hotel on the network I am watching the wifi signal strength drop ever time I cover thetop right back side of the tablet with my hand. I mean just the corner of it.
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So your saying that signal levels drop when you place a highly signal absorbent object over the antenna? That's so crazy, I would never have thought this would be the case. [/donebeingadick]
samwheat said:
nexus usually it s a device with alot of problems . this is what we know for shure . it a fact
bad quality control - worst device ever at this capitol
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Just because your single device had issues doesn't mean everyone elses does My Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 arrived just fine without any huge glaring issues (only "minor" issue my N7 had was screen lift, which was common during early models; none on the later model I bought).
If my device has problems that means that the quality control its bad . if a single device has problems it could havebeen yours , others and others . It could probably happen to you in the future also .
don t you think?
i think 50% of the nexus 10 units has problems from the number of complains onthe forums .
I want a clean product , like my money are . I need the perfect quality control from google and samsung togheder because i dont pay half money when I do .
Dont worry Ravanous ... nexus 10 has also 5 6 hours of battery. Buy note 8 or wait for ipad mini 2 if you can eat IOS.
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I have a Nexus 10 but I have it on ebay at the moment and waiting to replace it with a Note 8 3G (whenever they are available here in the UK!).I love the screen on the N10 but that's about it, I find the size awkward and rarely use it as a result. I see myself getting more use out of Note 8. I always thought that 8" is the sweetspot in terms of size.
samwheat said:
i think 50% of the nexus 10 units has problems from the number of complains on the forums .
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There are thousands of Nexus 10 owners on these forums, which we can see from ROM and kernel downloads. Of those, there is at best only 10% of owners who actually post here. Of those 10%, only 2-3% have problems with their tablet. 2-3% of product that has issues is on the upper end of "acceptable" for most companies these days.

For those of you with other tablets, who's still keeping their other one?

Just looking to see who else is thinking about selling their other tablet since the new N7 came out. The only thing remotely keeping me from dumping my TF300 is the keyboard, and the fact that AOKP made it amazingly smooth and fast.
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I use my tf101 as a teleprompter when making video projects for school. If my talent can read from this, I'm gonna try to dump the 101 for sure. Only problem is Craigslist is flooded with tf101s in MPLS right now :-\
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I've till got my HTC evo view 4g..was my first lol.. and my og nexus 7
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I have a first generation thrive, with the full USB and HDMI ports. Still keeping that bad boy
sent from the 7th nexus of 2013
I sold my 2012 nexus 7, but am keeping my nexus 10.
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I've owned 2012 Nexus 7, Nexus 10 and Galaxy Note 10.1. Digitizer pen aside the 2013 Nexus 7 blows all the others away in performance and usability! It even does things faster than my laptop! If I could buy the LTE version today it would immediately replace the Note II too. This thing is amazing! If it had Note 10.1's front facing speakers and S Pen it'd be perfect.
Probably going to dump my n10
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I gave my OG N7 to my mom..she needed it for school, so I bought myself the TF300 lol. I'm thinking of dualbooting a linux distro on it since my girlfriend stole my laptop :< I fell in love with my N7 the moment i took it out of the box, so I know I'm keeping it. I figure I may buy another keyboard dock just for the connector and stuff and try to make a dock to use it as a media player on my TV or something..I dunno rofl. I'd like to keep it, but I don't want it to collect dust.
edit: Maybe not @ the dock, since asus apparently made a dock with basically the same things I was looking to make lol.
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I've got mine listed on CL. I've had a few offers. I listed it for $150, but think I might lower it to $130. If I cant sell it I'll give to to my niece and nephew who enjoy playing with it.
I have a Nexus 10 but I am going to sell it. Is already on Swappa.
I like the Nexus 7 to travel. Fits easily in my back pockets.
I do have a Chrome Pixel that I use when I get home so I won't miss the Nexus 10 much
My other tablet is the Note 10.1 which I love especially with the multi-tasking features so it's a tough call. I've been using the Nexus 7 almost exclusively and it's growing on me, it's a nice size for gaming and the resolution is great. Although I'm looking forward to Samsung's new tablets that are coming soon.... Never ending cycle.
Still keeping my original N7 for the time my mom realizes her blackberry tablet actually sucks and I'll give here one that actually works.
Sold my iPad 4 today. Was not using the iPad that much anyway...need to see how much I will use the nexus 7.
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funkyboy1281 said:
Still keeping my original N7 for the time my mom realizes her blackberry tablet actually sucks and I'll give here one that actually works.
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Hardware wise, it doesn't seem like horrible tablet. Anyway, I played with the Nexus 7 (2013) yesterday and it feels so light(like the Kindle Paperwhite). Furthermore, the screen and sound quality was excellent. it felt wonderful in my hand. To bad I in possession of a Samsung ATIV 500T (a 11.6" Atom powered Windows 8 tablet with Wacom tech) and a Kindle paperwhite, so I don't really need the Nexus 7 (2013).
Thinking about selling my iPad mini 64gb..
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I have a Galaxy note 8
Im missing haptic feedback, the extra inch, and better build quality. We shall see.
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For now, I'm keeping my 1st gen n7. I has aokp 4.2.2 and runs all the apps I need it to run and I still use it. I could care less if it broke or got lost; which is a great feeling. The 2013 n7 I will just use for basic things right now seeing as how 4.3 is new and not completely supported by all apps. I like the 2013 n7 better, but until the apps catch up, I'm going to hold on to that original n7. In time I'll probably give it to a family member as a gift. Everybody and there momma is selling them on craigslist, so I probably won't go that route...
This replaced my BB Playbook, which is going on CL asap, and I'll be telling it not to let the door hit it in the rear end...
We have an "old" Nexus 7 that we will keep for sure. The iPad was sold when we got the first Nexus 7, just a hard tablet to beat, the new one even more so!

Nexus 7 (2013) or LG G Pad 8.3?

I'm about to sell my Nexus 10 to buy a smaller tablet. The Nexus 10 is great but it's too big to use comfortably daily. Playing games is almost impossible and holding the tablet in portrait it's too uncomfortable.
I've narrowed it down to the new Nexus 7 or the upcoming LG G Pad 8.3. I prefer the LG because 8 inches seems to be the perfect screen size for gaming, video playback, web browsing and PDF reading.
The Nexus 7 has great price, updates, great stock experience and it's already available. But I feel I would get tired of the small screen too quickly. Reading PDFs would be almost impossible, as well as web browsing.
I've been thinking about it for days and still can't decide.
Do you guys that own the Nexus 7 feel the screen is too small after a few months with it? I'll be using the new tablet at home always. I think the LG is great because it's the first 8 inch tablet with 1080P screen. The snapdragon 600 inside is also better and the battery is bigger also, but I know I wouldn't get updates. This wouldn't be too much of a problem if the tablet works for me. I think I could keep an 8 inch tablet longer than a 7.
No. In fact I think the size is perfect. Its wide enough to hold in one hand comfortably (portrait). It fits in my front jeans pocket (barely). Big enough to do whatever on.
The N7 uses an under clocked S600. It has updated cores and GPU. I don't know why they called it an S4 Pro. So speed wise you will see very little difference.
LG never supports their products. It will probably come out with 4.2.2 just as we're getting 4.4. They have horrible update schedules. You're lucky to get one OS update before EOL. Development on them are also lacking. They usually come locked without an easy way to unlock. The LG G2 is rooted by a special method but remains locked.
It will probably never see an update past 4.4
I wouldn't pick a LG device unless I gave it several months to settle and see where it ends up with updates and dev. They make some great hardware but really botch up the software and support. The G2 seems like a great phone out of the box but will be left in the dust in a few months. Take your chances with their tablet but think about one thing:
How well will you like it in a year when the N7 has the latest and greatest Android (5.0?) and cool ROMs and mods, and you're stuck on an iffy modified stock rom with no support?
I left the Nexus line once, and it was rough.
The 7" is very nice because you want to downsize for toting. It fits easier into your coat pockets and lighter. 7 and 8 inches aren't that different unless you are comparing. Standalone you won't even notice the difference.
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Actually the N7's 7 inch display isn't too small for PDF and web browsing. Given its retina grade PPI, words are crisp even when they are zoomed out. I've been using it for my classes which I read PDF PowerPoint slides on daily basis, and I am happy with it. :good:
7 inch is also the largest you can get for comfortable 1 hand use with portrait mode. 8 inch tablets has to be held with 2 hands even in portrait.
You lay down, put tablet on your belly. Can be held with one hand...
So size doesn't matter.
Reading? n7 is good... No more headaches.
Oh well go with n7 and next year maybe a nexus8 will come out.
It sounds like you've answered your own question, you find 7" tablets to small. Both are excellent tablets, you can't really go wrong with either of them.
I've not used a Nexus 7 but have used a Galaxy Tab 2 7" and I thought the size was great for what it was, small, pocketable but 7" tablets are rather small for day to day use (they're fine for reading PDFs though, Kindles are even smaller).
Personally I find 10" tablets to big.
For me the iPad Mini is pretty much the perfect tablet size but Apple products interest me not. I was interested in the Galaxy Tab 3 8" but oddly for Samsung their Galaxy Tab specs are low. I understand both the Galaxy Tab 3 8" and LG G Pad 8.3 are roughly the same size and crucially aspect ratio as the iPad Mini.
It's the wider nature of 8" tablets that interest me and of course the LG G Pad 8.3 is a much better tablet than the Galaxy Tab 3 8".
Sure I doubt LG will upgrade the version of Android much (if at all), their track record is poor but you know what Android 4.2.2 is already a decent version of Android and it's not as if Android 4.3/4.4 add much.
Yes not getting Android 5.0 (possibly) would irk me but it's all about the size and aspect ratio with a tablet for me and 8" tablets are the "sweet spot". Plus I like the look of QSlide, it doesn't look as useful as Samsung's Multi-Window but is the next best thing. Being able to display two apps at once on a tablet is genuinely useful.
p.s - IMO this whole phones/tablets not getting the latest Android version is overrated, you've still bought a decent product (hopefully) and the past few Android upgrades have been minor anyway. Android 4.0 came out 2 years ago!
Reading is amazing especially with Play Books on N7
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I think the LG is better. But nobosy knows when it will be released..
I had the Nexus 7(2013) and returned it because of the nonfunctional GPS and random reboot issues. From what I understand, the GPS now works, but the reboot issues persist, and some still complain of multitouch issues.
I've got the LG G2 and it's the best phone I've ever owned. With that said, I'm looking forward to the G Pad. The Q-Pair software looks really slick, in that you can tether to your phone(supposedly any Android phone) for a data connection with one click. It will also send and receive texts and phone calls from a connected phone.
As to the comments about one handed use, the G Pad is a hair under 1/2" wider than the Nexus 7, thanks to the thin bezel. LG supposedly studied average hand sizes to come up with comfortable overall dimensions.
I'd say if you want the bleeding edge latest-greatest version of Android, and can live with the smaller screen, Asus build quality, and random reboots, go with the Nexus 7.
If you don't mind slow or no software updates, but want a bigger screen, most likely superior build quality, and hopefully no random reboots, go with the G Pad 8.3. That said, I'd still wait for it to hit the market to see if any serious issues surface.
I'm in the same situation as you. I currently have the nexus 7 and love the screen quality and all. It's good for reading super small texts but I've always felt like 8 inch screen was the perfect size. I'm waiting to see when the lg comes out and the price. If it's $299, that's a bargain and I'm probably gonna sell my nexus 7 and get the LG. I'm not too worried about software with the LG because I know I'm gonna end up rooting it and installing AOSP on it eventually.
Also I feel like the nexus 7 doesn't have a great build quality. my nexus 7 most likely has a grounding issue (ie: I have touches not registering when I place it flat on my bed or table) but who knows maybe lg will have the same problem. I would say wait for lg to come out, play with it, then make your decision
LG is terrible with releasing updates for their products. I'd actually wait a bit to see if the dev community does anything for it. I had a phone from them that they basically stopped doing updates for a month after it was released, rendering it useless. I had bought it on the basis that they were going to release an update for it, and after a year, they didn't.
My Nexus 7 2013 have been great, and have neither multitouch or random reboot issues. If the Gpad can be rooted/unlocked/restored as easily as Nexus 7 and have a Dev community just as large I might consider it. Otherwise I prefer the Nexus 7.
I have an N7 2013 running PA to get the Tablet UI, which I feel works much better than Phablet mode (lots more real estate).
I do feel the N7 bezels are a waste and would much prefer an 8" tablet with much smaller bezels. I had an iPad mini before the N7 (my wife has it now!) and as much as iOS is boring, it worked much better as a tablet in terms of its size. So I'm thinking the LG would close that gap.
Like others, however, I feel it would need to be BL unlockable to make the switch. I have hope only because it's a WiFi only device, thus no carriers to be beholden to.
LG G Pad 8.3 to be available October 14th in Korea and other markets by the end of the year.
Price: 510$.
Ouch. Ouch. Ouch.
I love the new N7. I just got rid of my iPad 3, it was big and of course boring. I'm not experiencing any of those issues, I rooted and unlocked it straight outta the box, still running stock ROM. It's great for web browsing and everything else of course. I personally think this is the best tablet on the market. You can't go wrong with price, usability and support from Google and XDA.
For on the go, I like the 2013 N7. My 2012 got really laggy even after the update. There are a few bugs still with the touch response, but its better now. Ill still use an iPad 3 at home, mainly because the wife prefers Apple. The LG looks like it could be nice, but not for the rumor prices.
It's really about the tradeoff you want to make. The new N7 is great and it wins where Nexus devices win: frequent updates, freedom to flash and competitive pricing. If you're a person (like me) who likes to muck about a lot, there's no alternative. With non-Nexus devices, I think you have to ask yourself if you're potentially comfortable with that device as-is for the entire time you own it. If it never got a new feature or the newest OS base and the like, would you be satisfied with the purchase? If you feel good saying yes to that, it sounds to me like the screen size is a big feature for you, so I'd go that way. If you're putting your faith in an OEM to fix or improve software, there's history to support the conclusion that you will generally be disappointed, as a rule of thumb. Just go into the purchase with your eyes open to that likely scenario and you'll be fine.
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Today I went to a store to try again the Nexus 7 and I think I'm sold. Great screen, great materials, very nice to hold with one hand, stock android, etc. Then I tried the Note 8.0 and Tab 3 8.0 and they felt heavier and my hand got tired much quickly than with the Nexus 7. Screen was not that bad, but comparing touchwiz to stock on the Nexus 7 showed me again stock is better for a tablet.
I'm not gonna wait for the LG. Will try the Nexus 7 for a week and see how that goes.
Fistly, for comparing, we must try in hand G8.
I bought a month ago N7 lte, and now thinking to try G8, and if it will be the same in tactical feelings i prefer 8 inch vs 7 inch.
10 inches is big for mobility, 7 - small for reading. 8 - best compromise.
And of course, price is one more important factor.
Awesome. Awesome. Awesome.
This tablet is great. Bought it today to replace my Nexus 10, which is a great tablet but I just can't use it comfortably holding it for hours. Too heavy and big. Playing games was impossible, as doing almost everything else.
I wasn't quite sure about 7 inches, but after a couple of hours playing with the device I can say it's great. It's AWESOME being able to hold the tablet with one hand for long periods of time without problems.
The screen is even better than the one in my Nexus 10: more bright and better colors. It just pops out.
The performance is great also. It may be slightly slightly faster and more fluid. It's great having such a good GPU: the adreno 320. I've gotalso more RAM available now, since with the Nexus 10 we were losing more and more RAM with every update Google released. They were giving more memory to the GPU and in the end I only had 500MB free. Now I have 1,2GB! This is after all apps installed and everything obviously.
It's so light and comfortable. In the end this is the most important feature.
I'm super impressed with the quality of the speakers! So loud and clear! I got the 32GB model for 249. Great price.
I can definitely see that Google has put more care in the software performance of this device than on the Nexus 10. Performance is consistent, no lags, no reboots or freezes for now. Even touch response is better than on the Nexus 10. Trust me.
I can finally play games comfortably and do everything without having to hold in my hands such a huge tablet. No more 9 inch tablets or bigger for me thanks. Even 8 inches seems big now. I actually tried the Note 8.0 and Tab 3 8.0 on the store before buying the Nexus 7 and they weren't as comfortable to hold as the Nexus 7. The plastic was horrible and it slips out of my hands. Touchwiz didn't perform half as quick and smooth as stock on the Nexus 7.
This is the best experience I've had with Android definitely. Can't imaging how Google will be able to improve this hardware anymore in the next versions. The materials are excellent, screen can't be better, loud speakers... and I'm even getting great battery life.
Now just waiting for 4.4. So happy right now. Selling my Nexus 10 this week.
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That's the conversion price. you can't go off of that because the US price will be different from the won price. example: the note 8 has the same won price as the lg g pad but only costed $400 in the US. the ipad mini was 640,000 won (vs 650,000 for note 8 and lg g pad) and only costed $329 in the US. only way to tell the true cost will be to wait until they release that info for the US, which is after South Korea so next!

[q] should i buy nexus 7

OK so I know I probably came to the wrong thread, but my question is aimed specifically at people who use the nexus 5 and also own a nexus 7. Is the screen that much of a difference? Is it worth being a companion to my pretty big nexus 5 or should I not waste my dinero and buy a mid range tab for a bigger contrast in screen size? I was thinking lg g pad cause of the processor upgrade from the nexus 7, screen size, and storage expansion. but it is early 2014 not sure if I should wait for this years tablets to come out and make a decision.
most people here are using the original nexus 7 from 2012,you can buy one of those for around $90 on craigslist or around 110 on ebay.
i dont have a nexus 5 but i own a droid dna and the nexus 5 has a slightly bigger screen but honestly,a 7 inch tablet is way better for reading or just laying down and watching a movie compared to most phones, even the bigger ones.
if i were you ,id get the newer nexus 7 tho ,its slimmer and has better specs,but the original can be bought cheap and it will still handle pretty much anything as the specs are not too outdated yet,
N7 is awesome. Its the perfect size and imo the best bang for your buck device
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Can we help you with Buying your Undies too.
I have a Note 2 phone with 5.5 inch screen. The 7 inch screen is so much better then even this monster phone.I also have a note 10.1.. I love the screen size on it.But it does not fit in my purse.
I would say yes its worth it ..But you gotta ask yourself some questions. How much money you are willing to spend. Do you need it NOW. How much storage space do you need. Do you need a network radio in it .
After you come up with the above answers if . question one is you have plenty of money and question 2 is you DO NOT have to have it this day. Wait and get the next greatest thing. a
Well you can figure the rest out.
I can tell you its a awesome device.. GET 32 GB Version. You will be glad you did.
Good Luck
They're exactly the same interface and software wise, except some apps are displayed in tablet mode, which is usually better but sometimes worse. Another difference is also that in landscape, the virtual buttons are portrait on the right on Nexus 5 and on Nexus 7 they are landscape on the bottom, wasting precious screen height. These virtual buttons are the only thing I hate about the Nexus 7, after removing them with apps in the Store, you gain a lot of screen space. However, Nexus 5 is 16:9, while Nexus 7 is 16:10, so the visible screen is more or less the same in the end.
I mostly use it in portrait mode because of that.
As I said, that is the only thing that bugs me about it. Otherwise, it's a great little tablet, great size for watching movies, series on the go (or in bed), it should play all games available in the Store and do all other unproductive things you can do on a tablet.
I had a 2011 Xperia Arc S before, and with it's single core CPU it quickly failed to play latest games, that's why I resorted to the Nexus 7.
Nexus 5, however, is newer, has the latest hardware and is capable of playing anything you throw at it, so getting a Nexus 7 is really only for extra screen size, but it does pay off. Maybe diagonal isn't the best measure, try screen area:
Nexus 5: 69 cm^2
Nexus 7: 142 cm^2
So the screen is actually double the size of the Nexus 5, and it's noticeably bigger when watching videos.
If you're going to mostly use it to watch videos, get the N7, if you're primarily going to surf the internet and read documents and such, I'd recommend you to check out the 8" tablets LG Pad 8.3 and Samsung 8" (tab or note), both come with buttons on the side and therefore have more vertical pixels (both 16:10).
Then there's also 2013 Nexus 7, with latest chip and 16:10 fullHD but it's quite pricier then its 2012 brother.
Why would you need a tablet for anyway? If you want it because it's popular, then forget about it. If you have other reasons, write them down, it's easier to recommend that way.
I would highly recommend the original Nexus 7 (as long as you don't need HDMI out) ts still a great tablet and works well and you can get it for a great price. I would highly recommend you DON'T get the 2013 it has known defects with the screen (do some research).
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should I buy Nexus 7
rmn6 said:
I would highly recommend the original Nexus 7 (as long as you don't need HDMI out) ts still a great tablet and works well and you can get it for a great price. I would highly recommend you DON'T get the 2013 it has known defects with the screen (do some research).
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It works great for me, it is highly customizable, gets latest android,price is great for the 2012 model.
I own both, Nexus 5 and Nexus 7 (2012). Have to say that N5 screen is awesome, but still N7 screen is nice and totally usable and it's so cheap, that you can later easily change to some other device if you want.
One good thing is that, the Nexus 7 is still supported by Google so you get official updates at least some time. When Google drop support, then you can always use custom roms.
Personally I buy only Nexus devices, because they get always best support from Google and maybe best community support.
Is there any noticeable lag if using the stock 4.4.2 ? For example newer games etc
martikung said:
Is there any noticeable lag if using the stock 4.4.2 ? For example newer games etc
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I don't play much games, but on normal usage stock 4.4.2 is working smoothly without any noticeable lag. And yes, you can't compare speed to N5, but old N7 is not bad at all if we compare example to N4.
Do you have some free example game(s) what you mean? I can test and let you know is it working smoothly or not... Maybe this info is useful to @BNNEBULA too.

Will you be buying the Nexus 9? (Thoughts on Nexus 9)

After more than one year of the Nexus 7 (2013), how many of you will be buying the new Nexus 9?
One of the main reasons for the Nexus 7's success was the awesome price point. With a reported price for the Nexus 9 being $400, are you willing to put out extra for an even better Nexus experience?
I'm on the fence. I am a little leery of the Nvidia chip. But the touchscreen issues on my N7 2013 is really pissing me off to the point where I want to replace it.
Several of my used apps aren't compatible with Android L.
I think I might roll back my N7 to 4.4.2, flash the touchscreen fix on it, and call it a day. I'm definitely not buying day 1. Plus I'm torn between the NVidia Shield with the stylus, although it has reportedly faulty wifi (equally annoying).
I may buy it (have been waiting for it by-passing tab pro and tab s and even new ipad air), but this time, I will wait a while to see how it performs. The touchscreen issues on my N 7 2 (my old Toshiba Thrive has better touch response overall) and the weak cellular signals on my N5 both piss me off at times. That's why I'm going to wait. Liked my galaxy nexus, loved my N4 (but no lte), and liked my original N7. Not looking at the N6 at all.
It did seem to me that L improved the touch issue (made it less noticeable), but I didn't leave it on for very long.
Not sure if it the NVIDIA chip was confirmed yet or not, but that would make me pass on it. I have a pretty strong stance against NVIDIA's proprietary tech, and won't willing support it by buying such hardware...
Sadly though, I'd love to have a large Android tablet again. My Nexus 10 was awesome while I had it.
Edit: Yep, it's using a NVIDIA Tegra K1...
I'm torn. I'm not a huge fan of the 7" tablet form factor with phones getting larger. This seems like a great size. I'm not excited about the priced that's been rumored and I'd like to see them add the microSD card option that some have been speculating may be part of the N9. 32GB just isn't enough and the "on the go" feature is nice but still not as nice as the option to just add in a microSD.
Edit: Checking out the full specs, no mention of microSD and looks like they stuck with 2GB for the RAM. A bit disappointing to say the least...
Here Nexus 9 ...
Display
8.9" IPS LCD
Battery
6700 mAh
Camera
8MP rear camera, 1.6MP front camera
Processor
CPU: 64-bit NVIDIA Tegra K1 processor 2.3 GHz
GPU: Kepler DX1
Memory: 16 GB & 32 GB
https://www.google.com/nexus/9/
So no thanks i will stick with Nexus 7 2013
Not interested at all. I don't care for the 4:3 ratio and $399 is overpriced for only 16gb with no SD storage. I don't understand why 16gb or even 32gb is still the norm. RAM is cheap… 64gb should be the starting point and 128gb the upgrade.
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Not interested at all. I don't care for the 4:3 ratio and $399 is overpriced for only 16gb with no SD storage. I don't understand why 16gb or even 32gb is still the norm. RAM is cheap… 64gb should be the starting point and 128gb the upgrade.
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No kidding! $400 for the 16Gb! That would make the LTE version maybe ... $550-600! Yeah I'm happy with my Deb (except that the updates are late cause of Verizon), I don't even think I could convince my wife to get it to replace of our iPad 1 (Hey it was a gift) once it dies. The Nexus Player looks interesting wanna see how it shakes out 1st since it is a bigger jump price wise from a Chromecast.
Yeah, at $400 I feel like they're missing what made the Nexus 7s so popular. They were arguably the best tabs on the market for half the price of the competition. And why the heck did they go 4:3? That made it a no-buy regardless of the price for me.
The 32gb LTE versions are $599. The price is really off putting for me. $300 seems to be the right price point for a high end 32gb android tablet.
absolutely yes
I love my N 7 2013 but aspect ratio. 4:3 way better on my taste. Price is quite high though
The main reason I won't be buying it is primarily because of the price. I would love to get my hands on it if I could though
I will be sticking with my Nexus 7 for awhile longer. It still does everything I want it to and is the perfect size to carry around in my back pocket at the Airport while traveling. The 9 will be just a bit too big. I was hoping for an updated 7 near the same price but the price also kills it for me since I have my first kid on the way. Oh well.
Overall, my Nexus 7 FHD, is perfectly fine. It'll be getting Android 5, and its small and light enough to take everywhere. I am also leery of NVIDIA mobile chipsets, especially after the way that Tegra 3 and Tegra 4 were quickly abandoned.
I'll be watching though, because the specs still make me drool a little. ????
No for the Nexus 9. I may get one in the future, but not until some refurbs show up with a better price. I love my N7 and don't see a need to move on from it.
Price is definitely an issue and so is the size. That's why I got the nexus 7. An 8 inch tablet is about as big as id go if I were to get another tablet. Which is another reason I'm not getting a nexus 6. Sure the specs are great but it's too dang big!
I was planning on upgrading to the 6 and the 9. But totally disappointed by both, size and price are not acceptable.
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First I need to have the Nexus 9 in my hands for a few minutes in a store, so I can decide if it's for me or not at this time(like I did with my nexus 7 2013 a few months back when I got it) . Going from 7" 16:9 to 8.9" 4:3 might be weird for me and others. But I think an upgrade for me most likely will be in late 1Q of 2015 as I am just in love for now with the Nexus 7 2013 size, screen, responsiveness and portability.
Nexus 7 2013 is reaching it's EOL in 2015 as Google only supports Android updates for only 2 years on it's devices but there's always xda development community that will keep it alive, hopefully for another 2.
So at most Nexus 7 2013 will see an Official Android 5.1 Lollipop (5.1 would be a mini update if needed) next year or not and after that Google will stop caring about it.
Will the nex 9 be stock or have that crap htc sense?
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Is that really a question
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