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Improving stability

Hi
Glad I came across this forum - very in depth
I've had an HTC Touch 2 for about 5 months now. I wanted a Windows device initially and wanted full Exchange sync capabilities including tasks, etc.
The phone does everything I wanted it to but for two things:
1. Flash doesn't work
2. It's unstable
On the first point Opera doesn't seem to work with Flash anyway but it has both IE and FlashLite installed, and yet the BBC iPlayer still does not work even in IE.
The "movie" loads in so far as the "home screen shot" comes up but no PLAY button, it just whirs round in a circle endlessly.
Can this be solved?
On the second point, I had a Windows device (called the Orange SPV I think) years ago which was ergonomically almost useless. This new Windows device is much more usable but deeply unstable.
Most problems occur when an app crashes when the phone is locked with the effect that the OS seems to go down with it like Windows 95, so you can't actually take the unit out of locked mode - the slider thing doesn't have any effect.
I have to take the battery off the back and cold reset it about 2 or 3 times a week. A bit like the old Orange SPV it has the feel of something so nearly ready to go to market, but for a little more testing.
Does anyone know if this is just Windows and the answer is to go for another OS (if possible, else the only solution is to ditch the handset altogether), or if a subsequent update makes things more stable?
Apparently I have ROM version 1.28.401.4 (66092)
Grateful for any advice.
Thanks,
Mark

Updated X10, very slow after update, advice please.

Hey everyone,
I recently swapped my own X10 for a HTC Desire for a multiutude of reasons I won't go into, but my GF kept her X10 in anticipation of the 2.1 Update. She has updated the phone now, although it did take two hours and kept failing.
Anyway, she is happyish with the phone, but I still feel guilty, as it is so terribly slow, and I recommended the phone to her in the first place.
Anyway onto my question. If anyone has a HTC Desire and an X10, they may have more insight, but basically, the X10, after the update, is really slow.
I have sat my Desire side by side with her X10, and tried to do simple tasks, like go into settings, or load media scape / gallery, or add widgets, etc, and the X10 is sometimes seconds behind the Desire, 5 or 6 seconds behind to add a widget? I am hoping this is due to a bad install of the update but am not sure.
Everything seems to lag, pressing settings, going into the app drawer, loading the messaging app, and it doesnt always take the same amount of time to load things either. Sometimes going into settings comes up instantly, other times it takes up to 5 or 6 seconds. Things just seem to hang for no reason. Even scrolling the app drawer and settings screens up and down seem laggy.
We both have launcher pro installed now too, as I find it to be an amazing launcher, but the X10 with launcher pro is again miles behind speed wise, to the point of, to me anyway, almost unnacceptable lag.
Anyway, I just wondered if anyone, hopefully with both phones too, could advise me. I dont want to advise her to do the update again if it isn't going to help. I am privately hoping it is not the limitations of the X10 that makes Android 2.1 so slow, but just a bad install, but i'm not holding my breath.
Sorry to drone on, and I hope this isnt viewed as too much of a rant or X phone verses Y phone lol.
Thanks
Biff.

Hey,
I used to have a lot of lag in the first week after updating... Its almost all gone now

Heya,
Thanks for the response, and it's a response I was hoping for! Lol. I'll cross my fingers
Biff.

It is a know thing. After a fresh upgrade the first few hours will be laggy but after it goes away. It has to do with the facial recognition plugin. If you have a lot of pictures on your sd card after the upgrade it may take a little longer.
In a few hours you will be fine.

Some say that is related to SD card reading, sould come to normal after a few hours using the phone.
I had the same but in the next morning (8 hours after) It was fine.
EDIT: I can recommend also the jit mod (only step2).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829660

hmmm thats strange, try reflashing?

yes it was indeed laggy for few days....but aft few days and aft installing JIT i think it runs much better than desire

I had the same thing every operation on the phone was laggy and i mean really laggy...i did the update again and i also (with the help of this very forum), removed some apps (after rooting of course) like timescape etc and i also downloaded minfree manager and changed some values in it and now my phone is smoother than ever before!
Thread for the minfree manager http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834044
Tips on what apps do delete if you need it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=826491

Games occasionally won't open

Occasionally a few games will not open. When I tap their icons, absolutely nothing happens. This is the case for me right now with Angry Birds, Atilt 3D Labyrinth, and Pinball Deluxe.
Other times they will open just fine. I tried rebooting, and upon reboot, the icon thumbnails wouldn't load, it was just showing the default little gear looking icon, and i couldn't click on the games. eventually, the normal icons appeared. after a few minutes i got angry birds to open... now it's back to a state where these games will not open. everything else opens fine..

Well do you have your 30 days buyers remorse or inurance? Some of these issues could simply be fixxed with a factory wipe. But with this art atrix mass issue of 3g/4g truama id just take it back and get one that works perfectly. My first one did that. My second one had music/touch screen issues. And my third one had one of the two led burn out so flash was horrible. My forth one is flawless. Still got 15 days of buyers remotes for free swaps till I need instant swap outs

well.. i've already on my 4th one, because of poor call quality.. the 4th one still suffers from somewhat crappy call quality, but i'm going to stick with the phone and hope for some type of fix down the road.
this game thing seems more like a software issue and i really don't feel like exchanging any more. you know how that crap goes. get a different one, find a new issue..

[Q] TF sudden death

hey all,
so i was working with TF late at night, and i conveniently pushed the power button to suspend it (not turning it off), and the next morning, it just refuses to light up. I have the keyboard dock as well, but I was not using it at that time, and when i dock it, nothing happens.
any ideas? it starts to make me worry, since i had it for just 3 days.
thnx

Mine does that a lot.
First, plug it into the wall to make sure you've got some battery life.
Then try holding down the power button for a long time, maybe a minute. Then I push it a couple more times and it always comes up.
Just keep pushing that power button!

agreed sounds like the same issue that many of us have experienced (I've had it a dozen times or more). Each time just hold the power button for 10-12 secs, release then turn on as normal and it mysteriously comes back to life. Plenty of posts on this forum about it.

And unfortunately this problem persists for me even after the recent OTA update...
If the Samsung Tab 10.1 had a microsd slot, I think my Transformer would be on eBay right now.
Getting tired of unpaid beta testing.

Sorry for re-posting a common issue. On a side note, I was on the latest OTA firmware too.
I am off to work will try again in the evening.
Also, when it happens, does it also drains battery? Or is it just a not powering up issue
thanks for all the responses

It depends... Sometimes I get it to wake up and it says it has battery life. (Most of the time actually.)
Someone was saying that if you turn of the wifi new notifications option sometimes that helps. (I think that was the option...)

Please also refer this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1070343&page=7

SOD
I have the SOD problem with the official rom (asus), not rooted, at the last version.
I have the problem even if wifi is off prior to put it to sleep (power off, no shutdown). If it stay docked with keyboard, i have no problem. It looks like i always have the problem without dock, after about 20 minutes, it no longer resume and have to press power button for 10 secondes and then it restart to boot like if has been shutdown.
Is there a log file somewhere ?
I did not notice this problem the first few day i had my tf, only since yesterday.
Maybe one of the installed program is causing the problem ?
Adobe Flash Player 10.3
androidVNC
Angry Birds
Angry Birds (another one)
Angry Birds Rio
Artillery
Barcode Scanner
BBC News
BlastMonkeys
BreakTheBricks
Bubble Blasts 2
CNet News
CNN
Cordy
Drag Toilet paper
Earth
wBuddy
ElectroDroid
f1.Com 2011
FreeCell
Google Sky map
GPS Test
How to Tie a Tie
Klondike
Labyrinth
Mahjong
Maps
msnbc.com
Pinball Classic
Pinball Deluxe
Pyramid
Revision 3
Satellite AR
Skype
Slots Royale
Spades!
Spider
Stupid Zombies
SurvivalGuide
Talking Gina
Talking Roby Free
Talking Santa
Talking Tom
Tank Hero
TegraZone
Terminal Emulator
Tic Tac Toe
the ones i have installed lately :
Amazon kindle
Adobe reader
HW Solitaire
bang Bang racing
reckless Racing lite
I hope they can solve the problem soon, cause that make no sens to have to always reboot (take ~15 sec)

Only the programs that are currently running not installed programs.

If you have a mini HDMI cable try to hook it up to a tv or monitor to see if that works. I had the same SOD issue but it's not really a screen of death. What happened to mine was just the back light died. If you have good eyes and are in a dimly lit area try turning it on and see if you can see the lock screen. I was able to see the lock screen, enter my pin, and actually vaguely see the home screen. Also if it hooks up to the monitor and you have adb access, chances are the back light is dead. Let me know how it goes.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA Premium App

bleclair said:
And unfortunately this problem persists for me even after the recent OTA update...
If the Samsung Tab 10.1 had a microsd slot, I think my Transformer would be on eBay right now.
Getting tired of unpaid beta testing.
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Seems to be alot of peoples sentiments.
Theres not even a chance of a dongle right ?
Asus transformer is turning into a very strange device with its combination of demand and HW problems.

don't know if this will help for you, but i fixed the sleep of death problem by removing my lockscreen to a normal unsecured login. prior, i set up a lockscreen pattern code.
it fixed my sleep of death problems when i was having it the first couple of days and i haven't had any since day 1.

sod
I do not have any password, only the default lock that you have to move out of circle.
Last night, i left it on sleep (power off but no shutdown) with no running application (had just reboot previoulsy) and in the morning i had to press power 10 seconds to make it reboot, the power on was not working.

just got back home, as for lock pattern, i had none, just plain honeycomb locking mechanism. I will try the 10sec power button trick right away though.

it worked! thanks all.

karlr30 said:
I have the SOD problem with the official rom (asus), not rooted, at the last version.
I have the problem even if wifi is off prior to put it to sleep (power off, no shutdown). If it stay docked with keyboard, i have no problem. It looks like i always have the problem without dock, after about 20 minutes, it no longer resume and have to press power button for 10 secondes and then it restart to boot like if has been shutdown.
Is there a log file somewhere ?
I did not notice this problem the first few day i had my tf, only since yesterday.
Maybe one of the installed program is causing the problem ?
Adobe Flash Player 10.3
androidVNC
Angry Birds
Angry Birds (another one)
Angry Birds Rio
Artillery
Barcode Scanner
BBC News
BlastMonkeys
BreakTheBricks
Bubble Blasts 2
CNet News
CNN
Cordy
Drag Toilet paper
Earth
wBuddy
ElectroDroid
f1.Com 2011
FreeCell
Google Sky map
GPS Test
How to Tie a Tie
Klondike
Labyrinth
Mahjong
Maps
msnbc.com
Pinball Classic
Pinball Deluxe
Pyramid
Revision 3
Satellite AR
Skype
Slots Royale
Spades!
Spider
Stupid Zombies
SurvivalGuide
Talking Gina
Talking Roby Free
Talking Santa
Talking Tom
Tank Hero
TegraZone
Terminal Emulator
Tic Tac Toe
the ones i have installed lately :
Amazon kindle
Adobe reader
HW Solitaire
bang Bang racing
reckless Racing lite
I hope they can solve the problem soon, cause that make no sens to have to always reboot (take ~15 sec)
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You touch on something here. I do wonder if it's some app that's causing issues. Looking at your list above, I do not have most of the apps you list, and my TF has never encountered the SOD. I have a dock as well, both updated to the latest firmware, and still no issues.
I really wonder if it's something running in the background that just doesn't want to let the device start back up.
I'd suggest to people encountering the problem to first (as much as it sucks) do a factory reset and then be sure the firmware is up to date. Then install only a few applications - just the core ones you use the most frequently - preferably only a couple at a time. Then use the sleep mode and see what happens.
I'll add this as well - I had an Archos 101 that had a SOD problem. I figured out that it happened a lot if the screen off timeout was exceeded. Meaning, if I had the screen timeout set to 2 minutes, and I put it into sleep for more than 2 minutes, a lot of the times, it encountered the SOD.
Right now, my TF is set to keep the screen on. Perhaps this is a factor as well?
If anyone would like to test either or both theories above, try only one at a time. If you change too many things and then fix a problem, it's a lot harder to tell which action resolved the problem.

still sof
I still have the problem. And it is not a dim problem.
nothing on the screen.
Have to press 10 seconds o the power to have it to boot.
Isn't Asus going to do something about it ?

karlr30 said:
I still have the problem. And it is not a dim problem.
nothing on the screen.
Have to press 10 seconds o the power to have it to boot.
Isn't Asus going to do something about it ?
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May I know which version you are using now?

Version no
Here are the version number :
Version android : 3.0.1
GPS : 1.2.4
Wifi : 5.248.35
Bluetooth : 6.12
kernel : 2.6.36.3-00004-g069b8b5
build : HRI.US_epad-8.2.3.13-20110511
Dock : EP101-0209

Language
I dont know but maybe i have something... i did'nt remembered but i think i started to have that problem when i changed the language of my tf to "french (canada)". Now i have reverted it back to "English US", and so far it doesn't look like i have the problem anymore... i'll continue to test that way and i will report back.
I have rebooted after changing the language, or else i still had the problem.

[Q] Bringing redundant Touch HD out of retirement! Q&A.

Ok so my first and main question is, are people still using their old blackstones, if so what for?
I'm EXTREMELY interested. I don't want to be another consumer who throws redundant tech away every 18 months if I can find a use for it. Besides it feels like a part of mobile history, the last of the resistive touch screen era, the new windows phone is too tiley, rigid and related to the disaster that was and is windows 8 and as a techie I like to tinker with things as such windows mobile 6 is just nostalgically beautiful. I could even still see myself developing an app for it in the future even now if I thought of something worth having because it reminds me of my beloved iPAQ which unfortunately I no longer have!
At the moment I'm running a Note 3 which is brilliant and HIGHLY recommended, in between I've had an S2, another good phone so as a phone the touch HD's days are well and truly over, It is however still a fairly decent pocket PC with GPS so at the very least I could still keep it in the car as a backup tomtom.
I first got my hands on an iPAQ 4150 (my reason for joining XDA!) a decade ago, I was 15 at the time and I'd coveted iPAQs for years so when I finally got one I felt like the king of kids along with my 5 friends and younger brother who also had various flavours of pocket pc (his Axim X5 - ironically now worth about £5 is sat on the desk next to me). While I used it for many things including videos, playing monopoly, universal remote, bible, reading ebooks and taking notes in class its main purpose was as a fancy MP3 player with that wonderful bass boosting app called Pocket Music!
On this basis and for old times sake I've decided that I wish to resurrect my Touch HD as a Pocket PC and second mp3 player.
This brings me to my next question, whats the largest/fastest micro SD you've managed to get yours to recognise? I just tried the 64gb sdxc from my note 3 and unfortunately no luck there.
One thing that has disappointed/shocked me somewhat is how difficult it seems to be to find all the millions of programs that used to be, handango was packed, and I've long since deleted all the things I used to have fortunately I did manage to torrent a copy of pocket music! Wahoo! :victory: guilt free it was paid for a long time ago.
So far, I've removed my 6.5 Energy ROM and swapped it for Duttys 6.1 XT turbo for the sake of speed (it was the ONLY 6.1 ROM I could still find - the original orange one having long since disappeared from their (and seemingly any other) website. While the energy home was beautiful it was laggy and drudgerous to use (im sure its fine on LEO) which brings me to my third question.
Does anyone know how I can keep touchflo but still use the default windows mobile 6.1 start menu? I like the touchflo homescreen with the clock and I would still find the weather tab useful over wifi so I would like to keep that if possible but I haven't found a way to have that with default start menu on dutts rom. Alternatively, could anyone point me toward the Orange Rom?
Last question, overclocking, if I remember correctly 670 mhz is easily achievable but at the time I fiddled with this (many years ago) we could only do it while plugged in. I'm certain that has been answered elsewhere but while I'm here, I might aswell add it to the list. Is it now possible to have the OC running on battery power?
To summarise; I want a mininmalist almost iPAQ like OS, windows mobile 6.1, few fancy bits, no social media, no crap, if I could remove facebook from this version of duts rom and other things I deem unnecessary I shall, I want it as fast as possible (my iPAQ was fast and simple with a 400mhz processor so there's no reason this can't be), with the biggest SD card I can find. I want to overclock it, and I'd love to know if there's anywhere that we can still find all the thousands of interesting old apps and games that seemingly used to be out there. I've even toyed with the idea of asking about windows mobile 5 although I dropped the thought when I realised I'd probably lose camera functionality.
And remember first and foremost, I also want to know.. How do you eat yours? :silly::laugh:

Quick update, this rom looks absolutely delicious in 6.1 guise:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=460640
Download links here:
http://www.4shared.com/dir/elwe84Mo/Kwbr.html#dir=Lj5MJ7Y2
Had to sign up for 4 shared, flashing now.

Works brilliantly and after flashing 10 roms in a day its my favourite by a long way, only thing is that the weather function won't work via wifi (not tried gprs), any ideas anyone?

So from what I've been able to garner the Touch HD takes micro SDHC but is not compatible with the newer SDXC. While this limits us to 32GB it's still good news because the old walkman mp3 player I have been using was 16GB and these days the fastest top class 32GB micro SDHC card can be had for as little as £12.99! That means I can essentially double the capacity of my mp3 player for £12.99! Clearly, there's still life in the old phone yet!
http://www.mymemory.co.uk/compatible-memory/Mobile_Phones/HTC/HTC+Touch+HD_Memory_Cards

I still use mine as my mobile phone and for Tom tom and storing passwords. It's gone through a few batteries and a new stylus and a new screen. It constantly gives me the shixs because it's a slow ass phone. I'm just waiting for that perfect unicorn rainbow encrusted replacement phone. Thanks for recommending the rom, I'll try it out to see if I can be bothered putting up with this hunk of junk a bit longer.

joshwuk said:
Works brilliantly and after flashing 10 roms in a day its my favourite by a long way, only thing is that the weather function won't work via wifi (not tried gprs), any ideas anyone?
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weather works on mine with wifi.
Holy crap the touch hd is a slow phone. Everything takes at least 3 seconds to respond when clicking. THere must be a quicker rom... I did install the sense 2 version.

I installed the 6.1 weather one. and I overclocked it using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=747813
The weather didn't work at first. I dunno what fixed it, but I turned off location awareness in settings on touch flo. then i went to weather deleted all the extra cities, then i updated and turned on location services when it asked and it worked. may be a fluke.

AvocadoBaby said:
I installed the 6.1 weather one. and I overclocked it using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=747813
The weather didn't work at first. I dunno what fixed it, but I turned off location awareness in settings on touch flo. then i went to weather deleted all the extra cities, then i updated and turned on location services when it asked and it worked. may be a fluke.
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"all settings" fix in settings tab
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5507019&postcount=6328

geez the touchhd was a dumb phone. I still am using it because i'm too cheaparse to buy a new phone. But damn... iphone killer it was not. Slow piece of rubbish with a bad camera.
Spent ages trying different variations of manilla and boy are they laggy. A bit better with overclocking. so tried winterface, point ui, spb mobile shell, cHome. Finally the today screen with resco plugin is the quickest. I can't believe i've been putting up with spb and touchflo all this time instead of the today screen.

I bought my Touch HD in december 2008. I have been using it until september 2015. Reason for replacing it was a standy time of only a few hours. (I ditched my Motorola A780 for the same reason btw.) I bought a new battery, but that didn't solve the problem. I was running the WM 6.5 Energy ROM, which made it more touch friendly than the original WM 6.1.
The Moto X Play I have now looked ridiculously big at first, but now I am used to it the Touch HD seems ridiculously small .
I liked using it, but noe I have more reasons to not want the Touch HD anymore: speed (or lack of it) and the non-capacitive, scratch sensitive touch screen.
I am not into replacing a phone every one or two years. I think 7 years is a nice lifetime for a smartphone. So my Moto X Play has at least another 6,5 years to go.
I know I am kicking an old topic, but it's an old phone too. I wonder if there are still people who use it as their everyday phone.

It is permanently in my car always on the charger, serving as music player and backup phone.

I'm still using mine
I've tried the modern Windows phone and Androids but they just don't have the functionality that ~I need. I like being able to use my fingernail on the touch screen for better accuracy than a great big fingertip. I like having a full QWERTY keyboard like the Resco keyboard without constantly having to shift from numbers to characters to symbols. I like the drop-down menus and I like the fact that I don't have to search for the phone app to use my phone as a phone.
The only downsides are the reception in poor signal areas is not as good as my wife's Samsung and the OPERA browser doesn't work very well but then I have a laptop for serious work.
I somebody would bring out an updated version of this phone running Win 6.1 mobile then I'd bite their hand off and upgrade but as it is I'll stick to my Touch HD as long as I can keep it running.

Use all the time
I use mine every day for telephone, email, calendar/diary syncs with OUTLOOK, contacts, word, excel, as a clock, as an alarm.
I use it occasionally as a SatNav, read the Bible on it.
It's now getting a bit long in the tooth and with 2G/3G starting to get switched off I'm now looking for a way to migrate all my stuff including Win Mobile 6.1 to and Android phone. If anybody has a good way to upgrade an Android phone to Windows Mobile 6.1 then I'm all ears.