Hey guys, I'm having this very strange issue with my text messages on my T-Mobile V20 (H918). When I'm texting people, they always receive my texts, and the text sends fine on my end. No problemo.
Now, when someone is texting me and we've been in a conversation for awhile, and suddenly they won't reply. And it's usually followed by "you there?" Or they just assume I'm ignoring them and quit replying altogether. This isn't an isolated issue, either. Happens with nearly everyone I text (but the issue seems to exclude T-Mobile or T-Mobile MVNO numbers). It doesn't matter if the person has an Android device, iOS device, Verizon, Sprint, AT&T, any of their MVNOs, nothing. Issue gets worse at indeterminate times of day. Really sucks when you're trying to text someone about signing a lease on an apartment... Using the stock messenger app that came with Nougat, but the phone hasn't had an OS update yet...but my remorse period runs out in 8 days, idk if I can wait for that.
Troubleshooting that's already been performed:
Clearing app cache
Performing a factory reset via settings
Performing a factory reset via LG recovery upon boot
Calling T-Mobile and having them re-provision my number a couple of times
This has happened before on my old G4, but seemed to be remedied with the V10 that I previously had.
NOTE: Upon checking T-Mobile's messaging history for my line and matching up the times in my inbox vs. their times for sending/receiving texts, the texts are indeed coming through on their end, but never reaching my device.
If anyone has any wisdom that they can share, it would be beyond appreciated. This is turning into a real headache. Thanks in advance.
Are you using Textra or another non stock messaging app?
A member and I @ghedoicy confirmed that with Tmobile, they use RCS (Rich Chat Service - only carrier to use it) and that is what is causing the issue
What is happening is if you're using a non stock messaging app to send texts which is fine. But when that person (who is a Tmobile customer) is using the stock messaging app to reply, it is going to YOUR stock messaging app. If you go and open your stock app, you will find all the "missing texts".
Ghedoicy got in contact with Textra and it's not a problem with the app but with how Tmobile handles texts/MMS (and only Android to Android too)
I experienced this as well texting with texting my brother who is on my account and has an S7. He uses the stock app and I use Textra. I text him but when he replies it goes to my stock app. When he downloaded and used Textra, I got the texts just fine in Textra. My wife and mom have iPhones and I get their texts just fine in Textra.
EDIT - read that you're saying it is excluding Tmobile customers and you're using stock app.
Try downloading something like Textra and see if that fixes it?
nest75068 said:
Are you using Textra or another non stock messaging app?
A member and I @ghedoicy confirmed that with Tmobile, they use RCS (Rich Chat Service - only carrier to use it) and that is what is causing the issue
What is happening is if you're using a non stock messaging app to send texts which is fine. But when that person (who is a Tmobile customer) is using the stock messaging app to reply, it is going to YOUR stock messaging app. If you go and open your stock app, you will find all the "missing texts".
Ghedoicy got in contact with Textra and it's not a problem with the app but with how Tmobile handles texts/MMS (and only Android to Android too)
I experienced this as well texting with texting my brother who is on my account and has an S7. He uses the stock app and I use Textra. I text him but when he replies it goes to my stock app. When he downloaded and used Textra, I got the texts just fine in Textra. My wife and mom have iPhones and I get their texts just fine in Textra.
EDIT - read that you're saying it is excluding Tmobile customers and you're using stock app.
Try downloading something like Textra and see if that fixes it?
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Thanks, I'll give that a try! I'll post back with results once I find out if that's helped.
Did a new app fix it for you? I'm having the same exact issue.
Im having the same exact issue...im gonna try downloading a new text app and see if it helps.
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Im having the same exact issue...im gonna try downloading a new text app and see if it helps.
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Did a new app fix it for you? I'm having the same exact issue.
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Textra did help (thanks, nest75068) but I'm still mad this phone doesn't work like it's supposed to. The stock messaging app includes Advanced Messaging on T-Mobile, which is a nice feature, but not one that I use much. Regardless, who knows what else is wrong with this phone with weird issues like this.
It's also troublesome that you guys are getting it. I ordered a new V20 via buyer's remorse (huge hassle) Anyway, fingers crossed super hard that the new one doesn't have the same issue!
Update: Surprise, surprise! Got a brand new V20 and the issue still persists! I'm at my wit's end, I have no idea what to do. Anyone have any other solutions? It seems to be happening intermittently on Nougat in general...I know the H918 hasn't gotten a system update yet, so I'm wondering if this 1) occurred previously on Verizon V20s, and if it did, then 2) did the system update fix it?
Trevnerdio, did you ever get a resolution to your text messaging issue with the stock messaging app.? Im currently experiencing the same issues with text messages getting lost when sent to me.
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Trevnerdio, did you ever get a resolution to your text messaging issue with the stock messaging app.? Im currently experiencing the same issues with text messages getting lost when sent to me.
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Hey Paulydm,
Sorry for the late reply. No dice, I've just given up and I'm using Textra as my main messaging app (which I quite like, actually) and my Advanced Messages (chats) from other T-Mobile devices comes in and goes out normally through the stock messaging app, it seems. Please let me know if you've found a solution! Still waiting on a system update...it's been a month a half.
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Hey guys, I'm having this very strange issue with my text messages on my T-Mobile V20 (H918). When I'm texting people, they always receive my texts, and the text sends fine on my end. No problemo.
Now, when someone is texting me and we've been in a conversation for awhile, and suddenly they won't reply. And it's usually followed by "you there?" Or they just assume I'm ignoring them and quit replying altogether. This isn't an isolated issue, either. Happens with nearly everyone I text (but the issue seems to exclude T-Mobile or T-Mobile MVNO numbers). It doesn't matter if the person has an Android device, iOS device, Verizon, Sprint, AT&T, any of their MVNOs, nothing. Issue gets worse at indeterminate times of day. Really sucks when you're trying to text someone about signing a lease on an apartment... Using the stock messenger app that came with Nougat, but the phone hasn't had an OS update yet...but my remorse period runs out in 8 days, idk if I can wait for that.
Troubleshooting that's already been performed:
Clearing app cache
Performing a factory reset via settings
Performing a factory reset via LG recovery upon boot
Calling T-Mobile and having them re-provision my number a couple of times
This has happened before on my old G4, but seemed to be remedied with the V10 that I previously had.
NOTE: Upon checking T-Mobile's messaging history for my line and matching up the times in my inbox vs. their times for sending/receiving texts, the texts are indeed coming through on their end, but never reaching my device.
If anyone has any wisdom that they can share, it would be beyond appreciated. This is turning into a real headache. Thanks in advance.
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I have the same issue receiving texts. Some I will receive and be in a conversation and all of a sudden stop getting replies then get one saying something that shows I have been missing a few texts. I had the LG G5 when this started in Nov 2016 and did everything the customer service rep at TMobile told me and nothing worked. I got the new LG V20 thinking it was my previous LG G5. Still happening. I have done everything including a factory reset and nothing works. TMobile said they would send me a new LG V20 even though I explained this one is brand new and the texting issue was happening on the G5 also. They sent a device and I went to pick it up only to find out it was a refurbished V20. I refused to take it because my current one is brand new. I am planning to call again and convince TMobile to let me trade in my brand new V20 for a new iPhone. I communicate 99% by text. Did anyone find a solution
nest75068 said:
Are you using Textra or another non stock messaging app?
A member and I @ghedoicy confirmed that with Tmobile, they use RCS (Rich Chat Service - only carrier to use it) and that is what is causing the issue
What is happening is if you're using a non stock messaging app to send texts which is fine. But when that person (who is a Tmobile customer) is using the stock messaging app to reply, it is going to YOUR stock messaging app. If you go and open your stock app, you will find all the "missing texts".
Ghedoicy got in contact with Textra and it's not a problem with the app but with how Tmobile handles texts/MMS (and only Android to Android too)
I experienced this as well texting with texting my brother who is on my account and has an S7. He uses the stock app and I use Textra. I text him but when he replies it goes to my stock app. When he downloaded and used Textra, I got the texts just fine in Textra. My wife and mom have iPhones and I get their texts just fine in Textra.
EDIT - read that you're saying it is excluding Tmobile customers and you're using stock app.
Try downloading something like Textra and see if that fixes it?
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I want to say THANK YOU!!! I downloaded Textra and it is working awesome!!!! Thank you thank you thank you
I have this issue on AT&T.
When talking to somebody, sometimes the texts end up going to the stock messenger instead of the messenger app im using. And sometimes people who try to send me texts, the text fails completely on their end and they cant send me any messages. Once i switched back to the stock messenger, all of those issues went away completely. Interesting stuff...
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I have the same issue receiving texts. Some I will receive and be in a conversation and all of a sudden stop getting replies then get one saying something that shows I have been missing a few texts. I had the LG G5 when this started in Nov 2016 and did everything the customer service rep at TMobile told me and nothing worked. I got the new LG V20 thinking it was my previous LG G5. Still happening. I have done everything including a factory reset and nothing works. TMobile said they would send me a new LG V20 even though I explained this one is brand new and the texting issue was happening on the G5 also. They sent a device and I went to pick it up only to find out it was a refurbished V20. I refused to take it because my current one is brand new. I am planning to call again and convince TMobile to let me trade in my brand new V20 for a new iPhone. I communicate 99% by text. Did anyone find a solution
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Hey, gonzo, sorry for the late reply. Textra works fine and is a bit friendlier to use and has a lot more features. While it's incredibly stupid and completely unacceptable that a system feature does not work properly, it's a minor thing to use something like Textra. I upgrade every 6ish months anyway, so I'm not letting it get to me. LG's been dropping the ball...they were doing better, but they seem to be slipping again. Hope you stuck with the V20! If not, sorry about your hassles!
Wow, totally didn't even read the latest responses haha glad your issue was fixed!
I also have experienced the same problem, been on the phone with T-Mobile and about 4 different TEC, nothing they tried fixed the problem, got really frustrated. I goggled and found this, I downloaded the Textra and I haven't had a problem since. You would think the TEC's would know to tell you to do this. I have been with T-Mobile for 20 years and been pleased, but this issue has put a sour taste in my mouth with T-Mobile now. My phone LG V-20 was brand new when it started, and they were wanting to replace with a re-furbished phone, I don't want someone else's problem... So glad I found this conversation. Thanks for posting.
Same issue. Stock LG G5. Android 7.0,
Tried everything. Even Textra. Nothing.
I get this problem using chompSMS, but my recipients are also receiving duplicates from me. Since switching to from cricket to tmo, I haven't had as many "lost" texts. Had the same issue on my G4. Wonder how many having the issue are rooted/custom ROM? Both my G4 and this V20 are rooted and stock based custom. Tried textra by developers suggestion, and still duplicated. Stock doesn't duplicate every text like chompSMS does, but maybe 20% do. This is bizarre. Wonder if it's an LG issue or root issue or ?
Im having this same issue with my lg-v 20. all my text seem to go through but i don't receive there text. I switched to a custom rom to see if that would fix the problem but so far no it sadly has not. It is a problem with the stock messenger app. I will give textra a try and see if that fixes my issue if not i might just change to a different phone in general. ill let you guys know what happens. Thanks
So I got a replacement v20 because my ffc stopped working, and once I switched to the replacement v20 I can no longer send texts to quite a few of my contacts. It says on my phone that it was unable to send the message. Is this more or less the same problem you all are facing?
The problem with not receiving text messages reliably on an LG phone running Android 7.0 Nougat is related to the text messaging app that LG created and loaded onto our phones as the default messaging app. I reported this issue to LG about a month ago after extensive testing and I've confirmed that many 3rd party messaging apps will work reliably. For instance and app like Textra will work reliably and offers much more functionality than the built in LG app.
I even went as far as to provided my testing details then send my phone in for warranty repair so that LG could have a closer look and work towards a resolution but all LG did was factory reset my phone and said that the phone worked fine. When I got it back I tested again and the issue remained. I firmly believe LG has no idea how to resolve this software issue and is ignoring it at this point and basically screwing their customers over. Luckily the solution is to ditch the LG messaging app and use any 3rd party messaging app instead.....but I would encourage anyone having this issue to hold LG to task and report it to them as this issue is a direct result of a poorly written application they created.
This is my first LG and it will be my last....never again!
I am getting something like this. People always get my texts but only today have i noticed that my phone is spamming me with old text messages. My buddy says "yeah i sent that text only one time and that was 2 days ago." His text said "hey man" and i have gotten the same text 30 times today. Now it just started the same behavior from another person. I had never gotten these people's message originally. But now it wont stop.
Dirty Santa H91010l Stock Rom.
Im out grocery shopping right now so i havent read all of this thread yet. Imshould i assume this is a bug from the dirty santa? Thanks
Some texts won't come through I also am getting repeat texts. Some voicemails either. I called Sprint to refresh on there end and all of a sudden everything comes through at once. Some of the messages were 4 days old. Wtf. My first reaction is to to be pissed of at Sprint cause I can't stand the network. So my question is should I contact essential?
I was literally about to post this same question. I think it has something to do with our preferred network type/enhanced lte mode/APNs or some variation of it. My only work around for now is using Google Voice, however MMS is still giving me issues.
Maybe it is a combination of essential AND sprint! Following this thread in hopes that we can figure out a fix.
Edit: I wonder if the issue will be resolved once we receive the update. I read that we can sideload it but I haven't got around to it yet. Have you updated yours?
It's Sprint. Used the have problems with my Nexus 5 but haven't had any issues with the essential. Just as a test, check your signal when you have the issues and see if you can get the sender to do the same thing. My mom, who has terrible signal at her house, will send me double texts sometimes. But if she is out and about, no issues
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I originally hadn't had this problem. Just got an RMA replacement today and was having this problem on the new one. I updated the profile and the problem seemed to go away. But I've only received 2 factor authentication texts so far so not really comfortable saying it's fixed yet.
But if you want to try it:
1. Go to Settings
2. Tap About Phone
3. Tap OMADM Updates
4. Tap update profile.
Updating prl here would be worth doing too.
OP and others, still having issues? got this phone saturday and have been getting duplicate texts.... i can deal with that but not completely missing texts.
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OP and others, still having issues? got this phone saturday and have been getting duplicate texts.... i can deal with that but not completely missing texts.
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I am still having this issue of duplicate texts. My temp fix is using Google voice and turning off the messages notifications. However, I had to create a Tasker profile to notify me when I get mms.
I've done all the updates to no avail.
I am not experiencing any of the issues being mentioned on this thread. Had my phone almost a week now and no issues at all. Texts and calls, etc all work fine. No duplicates.
My s8 has not been receiving sms messages since Friday and it's quite annoying. I've tried resetting network settings , removing sim card I've even done a factory reset still no luck. Anyone else having this issue ?
Mine started doing this a few weeks ago as well?? Not really sure how long it's been going on now, could have been going on for months for all I know?
I've tried:
Yaata
Textra
Chomp
Pulse
and the stock messenger...
It *mainly* seems to be from iPhone users, but I get them fine from my wife and some friends that use iPhones.......So, it's not all the time?
It can be in the same thread too? I'll have some replies, but then they just stop..... I'll call them up and ask if they got my text, and they'll send me a screen shot (to my email) that shows they've been replying?
Any fix? On the latest At&t version.
Has anyone else had this problem? I've got a stock Pixel 4 from T-Mobile that just doesn't get texts reliably. Doesn't seem to matter whether the sender is on an iPhone/Android. Sometimes they'll come in days late from when they were originally sent - sometimes not at all. I've tried all sorts of different texting apps besides the stock one. I've exchanged the phone at T-Mobile for a new one with a fresh SIM card - same issue. If I factory reset the phone, I'll get a flood of all the missed texts and it may work fine for like a week until the problem creeps up again. I've tried with chat features on and off. Nothing seems to fix this and I've had friends tell me they had similar issues and only solved it by switching to a different phone, but I don't have that luxury since I don't have Jump On-Demand. Stuck with this BS and super disappointed considering it's Google's own phone.
Prior to owning the Pixel, my wife and I had the exact same issues with our OnePlus 7's. Text messages were even going to the wrong contacts. We tried everything to remedy the problem via OnePlus. We even contacted T-mobile and they tried resetting our networks as well. Nothing worked. I finally got a hold of a representative at T-Mobile that said they were upgrading the network in our area and multiple customers were experiencing the same issue. So, we immediately switched to another messaging app and let our contacts know the issue and the new preferable way of contact. Now we own the Pixel, our SMS texts are fine and haven't experienced any issues, but it's more likely related to the network than the phone. But I'm still paranoid after that experience, so we hardly ever text anymore and rely on another messaging app with family and friends.
I'm hoping somebody has experienced this before and found a fix and can help me out...
All day I've been struggling to send SMS messages... I'm on 11.0.1.1, magisk rooted, with RICE installed. Everything was working great but today when i woke up, i was unable to send SMS messages...
I'm receiving them, but sometimes they are delayed and i get a few at a time with nothing coming in again for a short time after that, but i've made no changes to my phone in the last 2 days. I've rebooted a few times between then and now (twice yesterday, just because), so i cant really understand why i would just randomly be unable to send text messages or why they are received in bursts like this?
I've gone in and reset my "Wi-Fi, Mobile & Bluetooth" settings from within the reset options, and this appears to fix the issue, but only for a minute or so and suddenly they stop sending again... I thought maybe its the tower, so i used my daughters phone to text my wife and that worked perfectly fine. Immediately before and after, mine wouldnt send.
Any ideas, links, or guidance that might help me figure this out?
Since there's been some updates and no responses to my thread, i wanted to revisit this and see if i'm still the only one on earth with this issue.
The issue seemed to have completely gone away on its own, no idea why or how... But a couple weeks ago i decided to install the update to 11.0.2.2 on my IN11AA. Ever since, my phone will randomly stop receiving SMS messages completely. I can still send, just cant receive. The only way to fix this is to reboot.
Anyone else with this issue? Anyone find a reason for this? A fix perhaps?
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Since there's been some updates and no responses to my thread, i wanted to revisit this and see if i'm still the only one on earth with this issue.
The issue seemed to have completely gone away on its own, no idea why or how... But a couple weeks ago i decided to install the update to 11.0.2.2 on my IN11AA. Ever since, my phone will randomly stop receiving SMS messages completely. I can still send, just cant receive. The only way to fix this is to reboot.
Anyone else with this issue? Anyone find a reason for this? A fix perhaps?
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Seeming this issue doesn't seem to be widespread, could be a carrier side issue?
It's a shame we don't have dual boot capabilities because you could have switched to stock and checked.
Also try a secondary SIM from maybe someone in your household and send using that SIM and see what happens.
I know there are delays after rebooting, I do a lot of magisk module work and every reboot try sending notifications using SMS or some other methods and I get around 3 mins no send or receive but not at the length you do.
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Seeming this issue doesn't seem to be widespread, could be a carrier side issue?
It's a shame we don't have dual boot capabilities because you could have switched to stock and checked.
Also try a secondary SIM from maybe someone in your household and send using that SIM and see what happens.
I know there are delays after rebooting, I do a lot of magisk module work and every reboot try sending notifications using SMS or some other methods and I get around 3 mins no send or receive but not at the length you do.
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I just had the issue again yesterday. Wife and I started texting eachother at about 8am, except, i didnt receive any of her messages until 5:30pm when she got home and told me she had been texting me. I rebooted 3 times, which once usually resolves the issue but not this time. I had to go into the settings and reset my WiFi/Mobile/Bluetooth settings, then it worked immediately.
Because of the solutions, i wouldnt think its a sim issue, but im going to test it anyway. I've factory reset a few times in the past and i still get the issue. I've had the issue while rooted and not rooted. Four of us have phones, 3 are Samsung and then there's mine, and mine's the only one with the issue.
PMad said:
I just had the issue again yesterday. Wife and I started texting eachother at about 8am, except, i didnt receive any of her messages until 5:30pm when she got home and told me she had been texting me. I rebooted 3 times, which once usually resolves the issue but not this time. I had to go into the settings and reset my WiFi/Mobile/Bluetooth settings, then it worked immediately.
Because of the solutions, i wouldnt think its a sim issue, but im going to test it anyway. I've factory reset a few times in the past and i still get the issue. I've had the issue while rooted and not rooted. Four of us have phones, 3 are Samsung and then there's mine, and mine's the only one with the issue.
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What SMS app are you using? I wonder if you have enabled RCS messaging the new Google style messaging? Because maybe it uses WiFi to download some of the SMS, and if your carrier doesn't support it maybe you only receive it when you are on WiFi.
Try on WiFi then try just on mobile data and see if you notice.
I attached a photo check the top setting. Google might be persisting your setting (if you are using Google messages)
Also why don't you and your wife try a simnswap next time you happen and you are both at home, if your wife doesn't receive it then it's sim/network related.
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What SMS app are you using? I wonder if you have enabled RCS messaging the new Google style messaging? Because maybe it uses WiFi to download some of the SMS, and if your carrier doesn't support it maybe you only receive it when you are on WiFi.
Try on WiFi then try just on mobile data and see if you notice.
I attached a photo check the top setting. Google might be persisting your setting (if you are using Google messages)
Also why don't you and your wife try a simnswap next time you happen and you are both at home, if your wife doesn't receive it then it's sim/network related.
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I'm using Google Messages, and yes i do have RCS enabled. I dont believe thats the case though because the messages that are blocked are sometimes just an "ok" message. I'm almost always on WiFi though too.
The primary issue with sim swapping with my wife is that we would need to swap sims for up to 2 weeks since sometimes I have no issues for 2 weeks, then i get the issue once or twice a day for three days. The worst part (for me anyway) is that her screen is SHATTERED on her phone (she's using a Note10+) and its hard to see anything, so i've been trying to get her to get a new phone. I think we might be FINALLY upgrading her (after 5 months) to an S21 Ultra, so maybe we'll give that a shot there.
I'm actually wondering if it has something to do with messages for web. I've noticed that the issue only really happens after using that, but.. It doesnt always happen after using messages for web, so it might just be a coincidence.
I'm pretty sure its not Google Messages, or RCS, and fairly certain its not messages for web, because i used to use Signal only, and i still had the issue a few times.
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I'm using Google Messages, and yes i do have RCS enabled. I dont believe thats the case though because the messages that are blocked are sometimes just an "ok" message. I'm almost always on WiFi though too.
The primary issue with sim swapping with my wife is that we would need to swap sims for up to 2 weeks since sometimes I have no issues for 2 weeks, then i get the issue once or twice a day for three days. The worst part (for me anyway) is that her screen is SHATTERED on her phone (she's using a Note10+) and its hard to see anything, so i've been trying to get her to get a new phone. I think we might be FINALLY upgrading her (after 5 months) to an S21 Ultra, so maybe we'll give that a shot there.
I'm actually wondering if it has something to do with messages for web. I've noticed that the issue only really happens after using that, but.. It doesnt always happen after using messages for web, so it might just be a coincidence.
I'm pretty sure its not Google Messages, or RCS, and fairly certain its not messages for web, because i used to use Signal only, and i still had the issue a few times.
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When you say "ok" are you just sending short messages or the suggested replies by Google?
I had problems with auto reply in notifications for a while.
Tbh I just use telegram or signal becuase they don't require being connected to the device directly when using the web/desktop versions.
Yeah swapping for 2 weeks isn't great!
Interesting you had this issue with signal too, sounds like Google cloud messaging (needed for any app push notifications and messaging) is in a standby mode.
You got naptime or servicely installed? Shame no one else is seeing this issue might be easier to diagnose