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What do you think about cell-phone filmmaking? Honor is hosting a filmmaking contest

The brand kicked off the Honor Film Festival in New York today. The post on Honor's official website http://www.hihonor.com/us/blogs/introducing-honor-film-festival/124693/
Guys, do you think cell phone filmmaking will be a trend? Lots of hipsters use their phone to make short movies.

honordevice said:
The brand kicked off the Honor Film Festival in New York today. The post on Honor's official website http://www.hihonor.com/us/blogs/introducing-honor-film-festival/124693/
Guys, do you think cell phone filmmaking will be a trend? Lots of hipsters use their phone to make short movies.
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You should be helping software developers make your EMUI OS tolerable and quit wasting money / time on gimmicks
Get Android 6 out and publish the source if you want followers.

clsA said:
You should be helping software developers make your EMUI OS tolerable and quit wasting money / time on gimmicks
Get Android 6 out and publish the source if you want followers.
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exatly.
they just give false promises and many crapy contests.
just give users what they want!!!
and thats update......

clsA said:
You should be helping software developers make your EMUI OS tolerable and quit wasting money / time on gimmicks
Get Android 6 out and publish the source if you want followers.
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+1
I ordered the L24 5X from Amazon the day it was released on US retail market and received it 5 days later ---- RESULT = Great looking budget phone with advanced features.
As soon as I received it applied for bootloader unlock code which contrary to the experience suffered by many in this forum I received immediately and bootloader unlocked ---- RESULT = Ok so this company honors it's promises (sorry for the pun).
Set to work and created 8+ alternative boot logos and later a complete Tutorial on how to create and install boot logos on the L24 ---- RESULT = Felt quite happy about this after fighting the most unhelpful and unfriendly OS (EMUI) I have ever come up against in 5 years experience of making logos and animations for several different phones and tablets.
Thought this horror of an OS was a temporary aberration which Huawei would sort out ---- RESULT = Wrong about this assumption everyone still awaits Huawei's release of source code.
CONCLUSION ---- Two days ago took my erratically misbehaving L24 out to my patio and armed with a hammer "smashed the F***" out of it and disposed of the bits in my waste bin. Sorry it came to this because at first sight when first unboxed it looked great but Huawei support is non existent and it's OS is crap.

meh nice.. but source?

Ok, Honor 8 in every page than we open on xda..
but, do we know if they're going to release the source code?
so we can get rid of this emui and install CM without too many bug..
do we have some info?

Source is out

papi92 said:
Source is out
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What? Where?

iRoNX said:
Ok, Honor 8 in every page than we open on xda..
but, do we know if they're going to release the source code?
so we can get rid of this emui and install CM without too many bug..
do we have some info?
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You can start working even if you don't have the source from Huawei, We did that on the P8 Lite (Kirin 620) and no one gave us any source.
I have heard that the Honor development department is reviewing the requests list that XDA sent. (However I can't find that list, maybe I am wrong). @svetius knows for sure.
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I read about it here: http://www.xda-developers.com/honor-8-xda-review/#Dev
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Source is out
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It isn't.

Still no official release, but I guess by the end of this month.

EMUI is good, but personally I perfer CM more.

I don't know. I like EMUI, using it with my Honor 6. But I feel that devs here could really improve it much much more thant Honor themselves could. I really hope that Honor/Huawei will release the source for their SOCs, as they are some really, really good ones.

CplBasti said:
I don't know. I like EMUI, using it with my Honor 6. But I feel that devs here could really improve it much much more thant Honor themselves could. I really hope that Honor/Huawei will release the source for their SOCs, as they are some really, really good ones.
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That's what we hope, since Honor and XDA's partnership look promising

This is also something crucial for me.
No source-code released, no order from me!

hitardo said:
This is also something crucial for me.
No source-code released, no order from me!
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I think than they will not receive many orders from xda users if there's no source-code released

iRoNX said:
I think than they will not receive many orders from xda users if there's no source-code released
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Exactly, no source, no order.
His very high DAS (french) / SAR (english and different method) makes me doubt some more.

hitardo said:
This is also something crucial for me.
No source-code released, no order from me!
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I think than they will not receive many orders from xda users if there's no source-code released
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pix106 said:
Exactly, no source, no order.
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Every time I read the word 'Source' at this section I think that people are not getting the point. If you think that a 'source' is what you need to magically have CM, AOSP etc then you are wrong, what you need is an interested developer (more than one if possible) who owns the phone (90% of the people posting, including me, don't).
This means that:
a) If Honor releases any kind of 'source', that doesn't mean that it's going to be complete, clear, or useful for porting roms (like the kernel, it isn't needed for that )
b) Even if they release something (and I doubt they will), it's not going to be 'plug and play'.
What I mean is, don't get too excited with any 'source' that comes from Huawei, the only way to know if this phone is developer-friendly is by waiting until you see projects coming.

I'm looking for a phone and so far the Honor 8 seems the most interesting for me. None of the other available phones really caught my interest. Nexus 5x, new google phone or Mi5 maybe but they all have flaws. And I really want something with NFC.
I'm not a fan of glass back phones but it does look real fancy on this one. No selling point but a nice bonus.
I'm planning on doing 'something' with the honor 8 if I get one. Kernel sources would help I guess. Haven't really messed with system code yet, just apps.
Hope they release it soon if they haven't yet.
Does Huawei normally release their sources? The Xiaomi Mi5 looks nice on hardware level (but no sd card slot) but I'm still a bit weary of Xiaomi.
Well even if they don't, we can still make EMUI based roms right?
Good luck to all developers. Hope I'll be one of you soon

miva2 said:
I'm looking for a phone and so far the Honor 8 seems the most interesting for me. None of the other available phones really caught my interest. Nexus 5x, new google phone or Mi5 maybe but they all have flaws. And I really want something with NFC.
I'm not a fan of glass back phones but it does look real fancy on this one. No selling point but a nice bonus.
I'm planning on doing 'something' with the honor 8 if I get one. Kernel sources would help I guess. Haven't really messed with system code yet, just apps.
Hope they release it soon if they haven't yet.
Does Huawei normally release their sources? The Xiaomi Mi5 looks nice on hardware level (but no sd card slot) but I'm still a bit weary of Xiaomi.
Well even if they don't, we can still make EMUI based roms right?
Good luck to all developers. Hope I'll be one of you soon
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So far there was no good news for Kirin SoC.

jerryhou85 said:
So far there was no good news for Kirin SoC.
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so you all "honor fanatics" can keep your sponsor, because maybe not many powerusers here on xda really want to buy this smartphone.
sorry but I just don't understand fanboys
my2cents

iRoNX said:
so you all "honor fanatics" can keep your sponsor, because maybe not many powerusers here on xda really want to buy this smartphone.
sorry but I just don't understand fanboys
my2cents
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Haha, that's only a tag, nothing much... Just want to see HUAWEI really improve itself.

iRoNX said:
so you all "honor fanatics" can keep your sponsor, because maybe not many powerusers here on xda really want to buy this smartphone.
sorry but I just don't understand fanboys
my2cents
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Lol you keep posting in any honor thread, you will have that same tag on your name...just keep it up...you will join us "fanatics" in no time.
FYI...you get the blue tag per how many posts you got in anything honor if you didn't get my jiff...so if you do not want to be a "fanboy" , better stop posting lol
my2cents

XePeleato said:
Every time I read the word 'Source' at this section I think that people are not getting the point. If you think that a 'source' is what you need to magically have CM, AOSP etc then you are wrong, what you need is an interested developer (more than one if possible) who owns the phone (90% of the people posting, including me, don't).
This means that:
a) If Honor releases any kind of 'source', that doesn't mean that it's going to be complete, clear, or useful for porting roms (like the kernel, it isn't needed for that )
b) Even if they release something (and I doubt they will), it's not going to be 'plug and play'.
What I mean is, don't get too excited with any 'source' that comes from Huawei, the only way to know if this phone is developer-friendly is by waiting until you see projects coming.
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So let me get it as I am new to this, kernel source isn't crucial, and you need proprietary and vendors files to make development happen, right?!

PalakMi said:
So let me get it as I am new to this, kernel source isn't crucial.
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It might be in some devices, but anyway, We now have it.
PalakMi said:
and you need proprietary and vendors files to make development happen, right?!
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Yes, but you can find them inside a firmware update or even at your own firmware.
The problem is, that Huawei instead of creating their own files (they created some), they modified the ones that were already there, so there are lots of incompatibilities.

XePeleato said:
It might be in some devices, but anyway, We now have it.
Yes, but you can find them inside a firmware update or even at your own firmware.
The problem is, that Huawei instead of creating their own files (they created some), they modified the ones that were already there, so there are lots of incompatibilities.
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So this makes it harder to build custom ROMS, now I get it

The Honor brand is disappointing..

I'm quoting a user who contacted Honor UK asking about the EMUI 5.1 update
johnhux7 said:
I have been taking to Honor UK on hangouts.
Honor has no plans to release EMUI 5.1 at the MO.
They also said about the promice of updates :
"The "promise" was a Honor US thing. No European countries were part of that."
They also said :
"The Honor 8 is due to get an update soon. As to what's in that again no info."
These are exact copies of what they said.
Will post more when they say more
John
More quotes
"We are committed to updates, we just don't want to be caught out by publishing press releases with timescales in."
"The whole deal with XDA again was a US, neither Honor US or XDA consulted us before announcing the relationship."
John
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs
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I hope that this thread will be noticed by the Huawei/Honor community managers, and that they'll take full responsibility for all the false claims and misleading motto about supporting the Dev community (that includes releasing proper source code) + 2 years updates + XDA partnership.
We need an explanation.
A note to the forum moderators: Please do not remove this thread or censor it as it's our sole way to be noticed by Honor team.

It would be great to have some reply from @Honor UK (Verified), @HonorUSA or @Rox_Honor, but I don't think we will be that lucky...

morpheus302 said:
I'm quoting a user who contacted Honor UK asking about the EMUI 5.1 update
I hope that this thread will be noticed by the Huawei/Honor community managers, and that they'll take full responsibility for all the false claims and misleading motto about supporting the Dev community (that includes releasing proper source code) + 2 years updates + XDA partnership.
We need an explanation.
A note to the forum moderators: Please do not remove this thread or censor it as it's our sole way to be noticed by Honor team.
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It would be great to have some reply from @Honor UK (Verified), @HonorUSA or @Rox_Honor, but I don't think we will be that lucky...
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I'm in the Honor H8 fut and there has been no talk of any updates only security patches are in the works and their released untested
Interesting read here >> http://m.androidcentral.com/heres-why-huawei-launching-p10-canada-not-us
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

morpheus302 said:
I'm quoting a user who contacted Honor UK asking about the EMUI 5.1 update
I hope that this thread will be noticed by the Huawei/Honor community managers, and that they'll take full responsibility for all the false claims and misleading motto about supporting the Dev community (that includes releasing proper source code) + 2 years updates + XDA partnership.
We need an explanation.
A note to the forum moderators: Please do not remove this thread or censor it as it's our sole way to be noticed by Honor team.
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This is really good.
It's exactly why I posted the messages that i did so people know exactly what's going on.
Us taking about our selfs doesn't come up with facts and that's what we need FACTS.
I will keep messaging them and will keep posting what is said.
We need to email them on mass and let them know just how we all feel about this
John
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs

What's their email you use for US? I'll send them a message. I'm about to switch back to my Moto g.

brownd7380 said:
What's their email you use for US? I'll send them a message. I'm about to switch back to my Moto g.
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Email them through your hicare app
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs

Yepp, disappointing. My last Honor personally, will move to another brand.

I'm a big fan of the Honor/Huawei camera, its the best out of all brands I've used including Apple, but they need to improve the updates and release the kernel source. For a moment I was close to selling the Honor 8 and getting a OnePlus for a better software experience, but I managed to go jump through hoops to manually update the phone.

I paid $280 for my Honor 8. I have been nothing but happy with it. If you don't like it, move on to something else honestly.

tekkitan said:
I paid $280 for my Honor 8. I have been nothing but happy with it. If you don't like it, move on to something else honestly.
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If you got your phone for a good price and you're happy with it, it's good for you. This thread exposes some facts and its aim is to get a "minimal" support from Huawei. So, maybe we'll move to something else 'honestly' in a near future. But many users can't afford it

Don't get it. People are calling some underpaid support guy on the customer level, mostly not really tech avid guys and quite uninformed and than believe what they're saying? Honestly?
There is only one department for outside communication. And you never talk to them. Relax and don't believe what so [email protected] guy is saying you, as they often get informations even later than the customers.

nivity said:
Yepp, disappointing. My last Honor personally, will move to another brand.
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I know what you mean. Though, I like my honor 8 phone but their support is by far the worst . I ask questions in their community forum site and hardly ever get any responds . And, I even wait a few days for an answer, still nothing . To me that's not acceptable . It would be different if I were asking my question here on a non Honor website but my questions are direct to them, unacceptable PERIOD

Dude905 said:
I know what you mean. Though, I like my honor 8 phone but their support is by far the worst . I ask questions in their community forum site and hardly ever get any responds . And, I even wait a few days for an answer, still nothing . To me that's not acceptable . It would be different if I were asking my question here on a non Honor website but my questions are direct to them, unacceptable PERIOD
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Lol it's the same even with supposed top brands like Samsung your calling a call center usually from another country that has only been trained to tell you how factory reset your phone from settings or from a button combo. If that doesn't solve it you are usually directed to send your phone back for warranty if it is under warranty or pay to fix your phone. So it's not just honor brand.

Yeah, I like the hardware especially at the price but software support is too poor for me to ever consider Honor again. Too many bugs and too few fixes.

It's the same on every single brand. My last was LG V10. A very pricy device. But no updates, not even security updates in time. I was expecting this for a 650€ device. On the H8 I got Nougat right after I booted it. And it was only 360€. Quite good. I'm disappointed by the closed source policy though. They promised more and that's why i didn't get the bq devices with some kind of Cyanogen on it. Still not sure if it was a wise decision.

faeArai said:
It's the same on every single brand. My last was LG V10. A very pricy device. But no updates, not even security updates in time. I was expecting this for a 650€ device. On the H8 I got Nougat right after I booted it. And it was only 360€. Quite good. I'm disappointed by the closed source policy though. They promised more and that's why i didn't get the bq devices with some kind of Cyanogen on it. Still not sure if it was a wise decision.
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I had to ask Honor UK to release the source code for the kernel more forcefully than i'd like to ask any company. I guess the only way for the community to get something out of Honor is to ask them many times.

colliflower1107 said:
I had to ask Honor UK to release the source code for the kernel more forcefully than i'd like to ask any company. I guess the only way for the community to get something out of Honor is to ask them many times.
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Yes your so right there.
We need to put pressure into them in order to get what we need.
They do response to messages in Thier Google+ groups

droidboy29 said:
Lol it's the same even with supposed top brands like Samsung your calling a call center usually from another country that has only been trained to tell you how factory reset your phone from settings or from a button combo. If that doesn't solve it you are usually directed to send your phone back for warranty if it is under warranty or pay to fix your phone. So it's not just honor brand.
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That maybe so . I wouldn't need another phone for a few years . When that day does come I will make sure beforehand which company provides a good phone and support, one thing is for sure it wouldn't be Huawei

I want Security updates once a month.
B360 has the patches from three and a half months ago.
That's...crap, honestly.
I'm not asking for shiny new features and the latest version of Android. Those would be great, but EMUI 5.1's not horribly out of date. Security fixes so my data's not stolen or device ****ed up are kind of important.

Any news on when we getting Oreo?

What the tittle says

Yes there is, we'll get it in 2 months period.

Any ideas why so long? Sony already got it and they are skinned as well as others are close behind like Samsung with their beta tests and htc why is this one taking so long to push since it is almost pure?

tixooo said:
Any ideas why so long? Sony already got it and they are skinned as well as others are close behind like Samsung with their beta tests and htc why is this one taking so long to push since it is almost pure?
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Sony have a much bigger dev team, plus sony has a large community of devs and testers that work for free since they release all their code to open source.

But is this not like the purest of Android ... On paper it should be just plug test and play for the A1?

In principle, yes. But I going by the apparent fact that Google isn't in charge of software but xiaomi is, my guess is that is the reason why there is no oreo yet...

I presume. I've heard good things for this company let's see how this phone will hold up to what people say

I think that the Andorid One topic is quite new for them (too) and they just have to collect their experience first so I'm pretty sure for the following updates they will get more and more routine so this is just the beginning....

With Android One, doesn't Google control the OS updates like in Pixel. We get security fixes along with Pixel

Android one suppose to be the first device after pixel and nexus to get Oreo.
Devices are getting beta version or something of Oreo.
And we are just waiting ,
Don't want to rush anything but atleast a official comment on the Oreo for android one would be grate...

They says by the end of this year,its mean December,calm down

I have a friend working in Mi China and he says their Target is indeed for December 2017. So let's just all chill out till then.

From what I guess Google isn't really controlling the updates of mi a1. STOCK android doesn't support capacitive nav bars and a IR sensor too. Moreover there are dual cameras on this phone. So mi has to so tweaks to accommodate all this. That's why it must be taking some time.

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Sony have a much bigger dev team, plus sony has a large community of devs and testers that work for free since they release all their code to open source.
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In principle, yes. But I going by the apparent fact that Google isn't in charge of software but xiaomi is, my guess is that is the reason why there is no oreo yet...
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There is nothing like this. Android one is a program which ensures every updates not faster updates. So keep calm. They will release it by 31st Dec.
The update chain is not that what u r thinking right now.
Google - Processor manufacturers - OEMs - Beta testers - OEM - Public Release.

As far as what I've seen and heard on mi community discussions some guy had posted a pic of his discussion with one of the representatives from Xiaomi. It said that they werent sure on when they are going to release the update as they haven't finalized the date yet. They said that it could be in late january 2018

Santosh Kolur said:
As far as what I've seen and heard on mi community discussions some guy had posted a pic of his discussion with one of the representatives from Xiaomi. It said that they werent sure on when they are going to release the update as they haven't finalized the date yet. They said that it could be in late january 2018
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If a random representative said that, must be true

I would give them 2-3 days more before I start having my doubts . They've said by end of December ..so no point rushing unless . Just hope there aren't any major bugs in the beta

pow01 said:
The problem is the heavily doctored version of android that Xiaomi have included with this device and the inbuilt spyware.
Still no Oreo
Still no Kernel.
Not pure/stock Android.
THE TIME FOR ACTION IS NOW. - we should not stand for this any longer.
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Looking to buy this device, can you tell me the spyware you have come across.

So someone asked on Twitter about Oreo update and Xiaomi says "Its coming really soon!"
Source: https://twitter.com/xiaomi/status/944922239643684864

Nice thread about Oreo Kappa
Enviado desde mi Mi A1 mediante Tapatalk

Please Honor

Please give further updates for Honor 8 , the processor is capable of many things but you guys are not providing any new updates.
This is the request from every honor8 user.

@FAQShubham said:
Please give further updates for Honor 8 , the processor is capable of many things but you guys are not providing any new updates.
This is the request from every honor8 user.
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Seriously?
What is the point of your request?
Of course devs wants to update and fix everything! You can ask (command) Honor all you want, you bought their products. On the other hand, devs here on xda give their time for our pleasure for free so you'll have fix and updates when they can and when they have time for it.
Feel free to contribute to the community by fixing whatever you want and share it here... Or you can wait and be happy when it comes to you.

Sorry but stupid question. First a BETA for Oreo is out right now in China for Honor 8 Chinese variants, second monthly updates are coming very fast, just got yesterday B405 with May Security Patches on FRD-L09 model in Italy. I know this may vary with Countries but sincerely there's nothing to complain.

The first rule is, if you buy a smartphone don't expect anything and that includes updates. Cell phone companies are in the business of selling phones and they could care less about updates. For every person that says they won't buy a phone again because the company lied, there are 10 new customers ready to buy the next model. Be thankful if you get a new update but if you don't, move on because there is nothing you can do about it.

This isn't 2005 when smartphones were getting meaningfully faster every year or whatever it was year it was that a device you have your credit card and bank info on can be wildly insecure months after fixes have been available. If Huawei wants to have a good reputation in the US, where it's been savaged by public officials as "secret Chinese spies", then they could step up with security and keep its devices up to date.