Is there a low-end smart watch with a firmware SDK? - Other SmartWatches

Does anyone knows of a low-end Chinese smartwatch (sub $40) with BLE and either an official firmware SDK or a reversed-engineered one? I'm just looking for some way to get my own code into the watch.
I'm looking for something which approximately looks and is priced like Xiaomi Miband 2.

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picking cheap watches for development

Hello all.
Recently looking at all those innovative cheap non-chinese smartwatches I've got an obsession on picking ones for some random development.
How about we gather some little info on devices ready for custom upgrades and firmwares. Certainly this doesn't include android wear devices as they are ready for development.
Almost all cheap smartwatches do not allow installation of custom apps and some can't even show the time without being connected with your phone!
But some of them allow firmware upgrading/flashing... So I'm looking for any device having some native sdk or compatible with arduino toolkit or anything else.
1. A perfect example of what am I looking for is sony smartwatch mn2. They already have:
- open smartwatch project with it's ported arduino toolkit
- star wars game on mn2
I would probably pick those but they're pretty old and lack some sensors.
2. The second one is weloop tommy. (suggested by qkall and raicg)
These have a huge standby time (I guess more than the first pebble), waterproof but they have accelerometer inside only and no touchscreen. I guess the price is huge comparing to others.
Still there is an opensource project around with a custom firmware.
As I understand a huge work is done and the device was carefully examined and all that pin-out stuff was collected to make it working and you're pretty ready to go with development of your own features.
My next possible targets are mt2502 based watches as there are some stuff (mediatek linkit) around on mediatek site.
I'm unsure if this sdk will allow to do something with randomly picked mt2502 watches.
So I'm interested in any info if someone tried this or had any other success on development/moding of their watches.
Thx.
I feel like I'm being a bit slutty with this today... but the Weloop Tommy might be interesting to you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sma...s/weloop-tommy-smartwatch-looks-best-t2864444
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sma.../weloop-tommy-smartwatch-faq-updates-t2995858
https://hackaday.io/project/4510-open-source-sportsmart-watch
gvma said:
Hello all.
Recently looking at all those innovative cheap non-chinese smartwatches I've got an obsession on picking ones for some random development.
How about we gather some little info on devices ready for custom upgrades and firmwares. Certainly this doesn't include android wear devices as they are ready for development.
Almost all cheap smartwatches do not allow installation of custom apps and some can't even show the time without being connected with your phone!
But some of them allow firmware upgrading/flashing... So I'm looking for any device having some native sdk or compatible with arduino toolkit or anything else.
A perfect example of what am I looking for is sony smartwatch mn2. They already have:
- open smartwatch project with it's ported arduino toolkit
- star wars game on mn2
I would probably pick those but they're pretty old and lack some sensors.
My next possible target are mt2502 based watches as there are some stuff (mediatek linkit) around on mediatek site.
I'm unsure if this sdk will allow to do something with randomly picked mt2502 watches.
So I'm interested in any info if someone tried this or had any other success on development/moding of their watches.
Thx.
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NO.1 SUN S2 has firmware available new watch with decent specs. Here is some firmwares for it http://en.001phone.cn/download-19.html I bought mine on gearbest.com but right now they're selling a crappier version probably preproduction stuff
qkall said:
I feel like I'm being a bit slutty with this today... but the Weloop Tommy might be interesting to you:
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They are nice but their price is huge when you think about their hardware.
spriteboost said:
NO.1 SUN S2 has firmware available new watch with decent specs. Here is some firmwares for it I bought mine on gearbest.com but right now they're selling a crappier version probably preproduction stuff
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I didn't mean any watches that have official firmware binaries.
I'm talking about totally customized firmwares, original firmware sources, sdk toolkits for mt6260/2502 soc or arduino toolchain port.
I want to pick some cheap smartwatches like u8/u80/20$-45$ and do some coding.
I wonder if someone who have mt2502 device would check the mediatek sdks on the possibility to build custom firmware (look for mediatek labs linkit one sdk, that SoC has mt2502 cpu and complete IDE).
Also most cheap devices use mt6260 but I didn't find much info about it.
I'm glad that someone answered me and thanks for you replies!
u8 customization
I just received 2 U8's in the mail. I'm keeping one in a new state, but the other is ready for the lab...where do we begin?
Pacman8521
I suggest to you the weloop
The great on weloop smartwatch is the battery time, up to 21 days! And it's waterproof!
One user has a open firmware project of weloop Smartwatch: https://hackaday.io/project/4510-open-source-sportsmart-watch
Take a look, it's open firmware.
I got some infomation about mtk2502
it seems have rtos sdk,I am not sure if we can flash our custom firmware to the target watch
www dot seeedstudio dot com/wiki/Rephone#Eclipse_IDE_for_RePhone_Kit
how do you guys think?

Possible to have android on a U8 smartwatch?

I've ordered a U8 smartwatch off Amazon.co.uk and when I get it I want to toy with it but I am just wondering if anyone has attempted to put android on it?
not possible, specs are way too low for that
What about the u10?
Could you put android on the u10 smart watch?
no
even though RAM is bigger, it's still only 128mb
processor is only 300mhz
chinese smartwatches don't have the specs to run anything but the limited firmware they have preinstalled
JarlSX said:
chinese smartwatches don't have the specs to run anything but the limited firmware they have preinstalled
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False. There are multiple Chinese smartwatches that run Android.
hmm, i was thinking android wear, android would require a cellular modem, no?
Not necessarily. The cell side in Android can be hidden, like how a lot of tablets have hidden dialers in them even when they didn't have cell radios. I would not be surprised if there's a lot of cellphone specific code in Wear as well.
As far as Wear, if one had full source they could compile a working Wear build for a number of Chinese smartwatches. In fact, Com1 did it on their prototype, but because they were not part of Google's exclusive "Wear Partners" club, Google shut Com1 down.
for both android and android wear you'd need drivers though, to access all hardware, so you would need a kernel specific for the watch
available?
Most Chinese smartwatches are MTK based, so no.
so it's not possible then
Depends. The TS has a custom ROM and git which was cobbled together from multiple bits of sourcecode. It's mostly a matter of how much work one wants to put into it.

Programmable watches

I got an idea which requires that several sensors are attached to a humans wrist together with some GSM communication, so i thought, why not use an Android smart watch? (Or any other programmable watches)
I've searched aliexpress for smart watches with sim card support, but the ones i can find in the price range $10-30 doesn't come with a full Android OS. And as far as i can read, i won't be able to modify the OS on the watches.
Do any of you know a programmable watch with sim card support in the price range $10-30? It doesn't have to an Android watch at all. If someone sells a fully working Arduino watch, link it!
Check out the IMac M7, full android, sim card, good specs.
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It is sadly not near my price range. Do you know anything cheaper? It doesn't has to contain water resistance etc.
I think this will be a problem, if you want a device running real android. Even the cheaper android smartwatches are around a 100$ or more. Most of the other cheap smartwatches are running some sort of proprietary system, I don't think they can be modified in any way. I know a few smartwatches around 50$ which claim to support java. Maybe you can install and run some java programs on it...
http://www.ebay.de/itm/SmartPhone-W...820477?hash=item3aa403dfbd:g:6zUAAOSw5ZBWOs5e
Sorry I didn't find this one on ebay.com but at least the description is in english

Is there a cheap AndroidWear watch available yet?

Hi all,
I am after a smart watch, but primarily to use different watchfaces with it. I am not after all notifications, calling and other features. Initially wanted to get a known Android Wear brands but the cost put me off.
So I went with a D5 initially but soon realized it limits me to use watch faces ( watchmaker and Facer Pro) as those are only for Android wear and they need to be mutilated and converted to a format the watch can recognize and etc.
Now I am trying to find a cheap Android Wear (or whatever watch supports watch maker faces), and I am not keen to pay $200-300 mark for just that feature. Have Chinese managed to up their games and make a real AndroidWear at low cost?
I saw there will be ELE watch but not sure when it is released.
Any help is appreciated
There's at least one I know of but the Chinese Wear based smartwatches are Chinese only language with mostly Chinese only apps.
Lokifish Marz said:
There's at least one I know of but the Chinese Wear based smartwatches are Chinese only language with mostly Chinese only apps.
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Thanks, Apparently they released an English version, but I believe it is not Android Wear but some dedicated OS by the company, I might be wrong
The tic watch recently had an ota update that now has English language as an option. If you look at what the watch offers for the $150 price its a pretty good deal. The only thing I hope is that Google now services will be an option hopefully in the future.
The OS is a bases in android 5.1 to look like android wear but optimized for the watch with an option to load and use android wear apps which is pretty cool.
primod808 said:
The tic watch recently had an ota update that now has English language as an option. If you look at what the watch offers for the $150 price its a pretty good deal. The only thing I hope is that Google now services will be an option hopefully in the future.
The OS is a bases in android 5.1 to look like android wear but optimized for the watch with an option to load and use android wear apps which is pretty cool.
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So ticwatch will be able to run for instance WatchMaker on it without any issues?
Don't know info was base on what I read on the web.
bennz said:
So ticwatch will be able to run for instance WatchMaker on it without any issues?
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yes it do support watchmakers but with conditions:
1. you need to switch on the AW compatible mode (which is now AWC compatible mode)
2. you need to manually extracted out the android wear apk from watchmaker apk and sideload it to your watch

Flashing Wear OS on the OPPO Watch 3 Pro

So the question is, how to flash Wear OS (the newest version) to the Oppo Watch 3 Pro?
(This Watch is currently the best Smartwatch on (chinese) markt and you can already buy this watch from china online...
You guys may know that Oppo fails everytime again and again in bringing out an global version of this watch series.)
I just wanna use this watch normally in my language with all the normal features and apps.
So i don't wanna wait, is there any way to flash it, (cause noone needs Color Os) !?
I second this, in China now considering buying one. The chance of a Wear OS 3 rom would definitely push me over the edge to buy Anyone know if it's possible?
Hoping this comes true too
I just bought the watch 2 days back and didn't notice it's Color Os now am waiting for the rom so i can root it and switch to wear os

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