I have a Moto g 2015 unrooted on android 6 and tried using helium for backup on pc (even though the dev says Motorola has bug which stops the backup) and it didn't work or at least it did backup but on restore it did partial restore on some apps and some apps fully restored, but I want consistent reliable backup without root. So I tried AndroidSDK and did full backup myself which it did. I found out how to do it on here but when I tried individual backup of a specific app as test it backed up but when I restored it said restore started then restore ended but no app restored so I installed droid explorer on my pc to try but as I don't have a way to test it backing up and restoring one app for example I thought I would ask for advice before trusting to full backup. Edit - apologies for posting question in wrong place, just got the app and had already post on web. Will now move to proper place questions and answers - duh!
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Hello everyone,
I'm not the type of person to ask for the answer and get the quick way out...I like to try and research, read and read more before asking for help.
Here is the problem:
Before I flashed my phone...I plugged in the usb and copied all folders and files on the SD card to a folder on my pc, just incase.
Then I followed the instruction to install a custom rom...I used Iced Glacier. I rebooted the phone and the Iced rom worked...after checking out the phone, to see what the Iced rom was all about, I realized I didnt use Ti to make a backup of all apps.
Here is the question:
Can I use the folders/files I copied to the pc, to add the apps back to the phone?
Thanks in advance for any help,
BK
Short answer is no...
If you had backup enabled with Google, your apps should auto install when you log into the market. Most of your data will be lost though...
Did you make a nandroid backup of your ROM? If you did, you could now backup your new install, restore your old system backup, use Titanium to backup everything from your old system backup, then switch back to your new install and use Titanium to restore everything...?
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First I want to thank you for taking out the time. I truly appreciate the help.
I read and re-read what you wrote...I kinda of understand but am not sure if the correct steps to take. When you get a chance, can you please try and explain further.
Thanks so much,
BK
What he is asking is did you make a backup of your stock rom before flashing ice-glacier? If so just go back into rom manager and restore your backup. After restoring, personally i prefer my backup root, because it backs up everything texts, bookmarks ect qnd it is one click for that stuff and one click for all your apps with their data instead of clicking once for each app. After doing your backup reflash I-G and redownload my backup root, run it and everything will be there
That's exactly what I meant...
Also, Titanium has a batch option in the menu, so you can one click backup and restore with Titanium also (you have to have the paid version for it to be effective, though)...
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thanks for the info...but have another question related to this.
I did make a backup before flashing...but here is the problems I'm trying to understand.
From what Im trying to gather about using custom roms, is that it does not install any bloatware.
So, if that is true and I use a app like backup root...will this just install every single app that was on the phone.
Im just trying to wrap my brain around this, sorry if it is very newbish
BK
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From what Im trying to gather about using custom roms, is that it does not install any bloatware.
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Depends on your definition of "bloat". Every ROM contains a collection of system applications.
Keep in mind. Nandroid backups are standalone system images. Titanium Backup and MyBackup and all the other Android apps that do backups are individual application backups. They often can do bulk restores, but that is not always desired or necessary.
You will find you will want both types of backup: Nandroid, and application.
You can also selectively backup and restore apps, so you get to chose what stays, and what goes...
Play around with Titanium and My Backup, and see what they are capable of...
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I've never used a Nandroid backup to recover everything. I usually just stick with Titanium Backup. Lets say I decide to replace my TF because of light bleed. Can I recover from a Nandroid backup I created on my first TF? Will the backup from the old device work on the new device or are these backups tied to a specific serial number?
sigh... The only time anyone answers my questions is when I hijack someone else's thread and ask it when it's unrelated.
Its generally not a good idea to use nandroid backups across devices. You could muck some things up. Titanium backup would be a better way to go.
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I'm not an expert by any means, perhaps someone with more knowledge will make sure that I'm correct or wrong here?
My understanding is that a nandroid will take an exact image of your device at that given point in time and it'll create a checksum for the backup, so as long as the backup and the checksum match and your devices hardware is the same I can't see a problem restoring to an identical machine.
That's all presuming that you've got the new device rooted and have CWM on it and that you have copied the clockworkmod backup/restore folder to your SD card/PC.
Edit: I should have clarified what exactly it is that you want to back up, if it's just apps and their settings then I'd go for Titanium too. Doesn't your Google account backup and restore apps too?
Nandroid backups do work across devices, and if you really wanted, you could restore them on new devices. Not the best idea, but it is possible.
If you use a nandroid backup, I would install the same rom as the first, then advance restore data only
For some reason it doesn't seem to work. When I look at the play store reviews, they say that Titanium Backup doesn't work well restoring apps with 4.3. For me it just hangs at 0%. 4.3 has been out for a while, what have people been using?
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For some reason it doesn't seem to work. When I look at the play store reviews, they say that Titanium Backup doesn't work well restoring apps with 4.3. For me it just hangs at 0%. 4.3 has been out for a while, what have people been using?
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Hi, andrewdroid...
Yes, I've just been looking at the reviews you mention, and I must admit, I'm puzzled.
I've been running Jellybean 4.3 (recently updated to build JWR66Y) since the beginning of August, and I've had no problems with restoring apps from Titanium.
I recall, during the first few days of JB 4.3, there where issues with Titanium, and the recommended advice was to change the backup path (where you're backups are stored) as follows...
Go to... Titanium>>Menu>>Backup folder location...
...and navigate (using the back button) to /storage/emulated/legacy/TitaniumBackup ...and select 'Use the current folder'.
And at the time, this worked for me. But subsequent updates to Titanium fixed the problem, and my backup path is now the more technically correct /storage/emulated/0/TitaniumBackup.
Titanium will offer to move the files to the new location, but in the event, nothing actually gets moved, because the locations are actually identical... just different ways of specifying the same location.
So, you could try modifying your backup path location in Titanium settings as outlined above, using either of the two 'paths' I've given. I've just tried both, and in both instances, my backups restored flawlessly.
I've no idea if this will work for you, but I do know there was an issue back in the early part of August, and the 'legacy' path fixed it for me... maybe it might for you.
Hope this helps... and good luck.
Rgrds,
Ged.
Just completed my first root and flashed my tablet to cyanogenmod. I'd like to thank this community for making it so simple. It seemed like a lot of reading but every instruction had a purpose and i understood it more as the process went along. I had no problem throughout the process due to the very detailed instructions here on this forum.
However, I seem to have made one mistake. I used TiBu to backup my apps and data. However, i failed to make the update.zip folder as i didn't think about losing the app when i flashed to the new rom. When i check my device, there is a huge titanium backup folder.
Is there a way i can restore my apps and data from the tibu folder, or did i lose it all by not creating the update.zip folder?
Im afraid to just reinstall TiBu in case it overwrites the old folder.
This is the only problem I had with the whole process and appreciate any help or suggestions.
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Just completed my first root and flashed my tablet to cyanogenmod. I'd like to thank this community for making it so simple. It seemed like a lot of reading but every instruction had a purpose and i understood it more as the process went along. I had no problem throughout the process due to the very detailed instructions here on this forum.
However, I seem to have made one mistake. I used TiBu to backup my apps and data. However, i failed to make the update.zip folder as i didn't think about losing the app when i flashed to the new rom. When i check my device, there is a huge titanium backup folder.
Is there a way i can restore my apps and data from the tibu folder, or did i lose it all by not creating the update.zip folder?
Im afraid to just reinstall TiBu in case it overwrites the old folder.
This is the only problem I had with the whole process and appreciate any help or suggestions.
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Rename the huge titanium backup folder, install TiBu, delete new folder and rename huge titanium backup folder back to original name.
TLDR - rooted Samsung Galaxy S 2 android 2.3, I need apps' data backed up and restored on a non-rooted Samsung Galaxy S 5 android 4.4.2.
This is what I have tried so far:
I have Titanium on the older android, so its easy enough to back up everything that I want,
but since Titanium demands root and I have no desire to root my newer android (because I actually want to keep the warranty for a change)
I can not unpack my backups using Titanium on the newer device.
So I googled a little and found a great backup app called Helium (previously carbon) that can restore backups WITH DATA
on non-rooted devices with android 4 and higher. Looked perfect at first,
only catch is that it can only be installed on android 4 and higher, so it is useless for me for creating the backups on the first place on the older device.
Then I thought of combining Titanium and Helium this way:
I needed something that could restore Titanium backups (meaning having root)
and also being able to create Helium backups (meaning being android 4 and higher), so for this purpose
I added a new Android VM to my genymotion on my PC, it was a rooted android 4.4.
Then I successfully installed Helium on that VM, but when I tried to launch it I got the following popup message:
"Unfortunately, Helium has stopped."
Thought it was a bad rom, so I tried on newly created 4.3 and 4.1 but still got the same results.
Then I thought, these are my options:
1. Try a different android VM environment, maybe genymotion is too much under-developed for Helium (for example Helium needs usb communication to a 3rd party machine running a desktop application - I don't know if genymotion supports that virtual usb connection).
2. Try googling a different android backup app, that have both the Helium ability (restore backups WITH DATA on android 4 without root) and the Titanium ability (create backups on rooted android 2.3).
3. Research how to convert Titanium backup files to Helium format...
At this point, I felt like I have spent too much time and energy on this thing and for sure the solution exists and other people might know better then me.
So please, if you can help me, please do.
If your S2 is rooted, why not just flash to 4.1.2, restore from Titanium, and then create a backup with Helium? You can use Neat ROM.
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If your S2 is rooted, why not just flash to 4.1.2, restore from Titanium, and then create a backup with Helium? You can use Neat ROM.
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Because some apps stop working properly or at all after I switch roms (worst case scenario I might attempt some sort of manual transfer of data)
I found a non-perfect solution which does not work very good so far (tried restoring a few apps, it failed installing them or the data restore did not restore any data)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.at.free
its not very good, but its the first one I have found which says it is able to restore data on non root and create backups on android 2.3.
I need something else.
I was wondering how you guys usually backup your phone when going from let's say stock to LineageOS? I was wondering this because I feel my way takes more time than it needs to and if there's a better method I'm glad to hear it.
I'll go first:
I backup first through Titanium backup which is a great app for restoring most data such as wifi passwords and app data for some apps. Secondly I'll make a backup using Helium because it backs up some apps that aren't compatible with TB's way of handling things such as Defenders III. Thirdly and most Important backup I make is through twrp in case I need to go back and get something I forgot or if "the **** hits the fan" on the new ROM.
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I was wondering how you guys usually backup your phone when going from let's say stock to LineageOS? I was wondering this because I feel my way takes more time than it needs to and if there's a better method I'm glad to hear it.
I'll go first:
I backup first through Titanium backup which is a great app for restoring most data such as wifi passwords and app data for some apps. Secondly I'll make a backup using Helium because it backs up some apps that aren't compatible with TB's way of handling things such as Defenders III. Thirdly and most Important backup I make is through twrp in case I need to go back and get something I forgot or if "the **** hits the fan" on the new ROM.
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use titanium backup pro or helium app
You might try to backup apps in titanium backup, secondly for photos and videos and all other stuff what I do is connect my phone to a PC and copy paste all folders displayed latter I can swap them pretty fast
I don't back up my apps. I don't have many apps installed so it doesn't really matter.
For data, I use adb.
Backup - adb pull /sdcard/
Restore - adb push <WHAT> /sdcard/<LOCATION>
I backup with TBU - never had any problems backing up or restoring.
But how do you get Helium to work for your Moto G4? I've tried several times/methods but it just doesn't work. I am rooted with InvictaOS and Helium gets stuck on checking SuperUser. When I cancel that out and try to connect via the computer it fails to recognize the G4, whether I'm on MTP or PTP.
The only reason I'm trying Helium is that I recently got a great deal on a Verizon E4 and want to play around with it. But since it's Verizon...no bootloader unlock. I'm going crazy trying to transfer my app data to the E4, which, ironically, is recognized by Helium.
I have never been a fan of iPhone, but they at least have a method to transfer app data to to a new phone, an area that Android is lacking. If i ever get another new phone that can't be rooted, I'm screwed if I want to keep my app data, such as from my Memo app, etc...
Sorry for rant/hi-jack.