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hi peoples. i got a question which bug is quite sometime.
maybe i am the only who encounter it. when ever i wish to take a photo.8 out of 10 the image is blurry or smudge. this may be the first device i am using that encounter this sort of problem. is there any possible way to make it better? maybe some meant say that my hand shaken abit on the moment it snap. but there is time i tried shake my hand right on the moment i snap the photo and it seem fine. but 8 out of 10 is blurry or smudge out.
will like to thanks people out there who know how to solve it and thanks alot for spending time on read this thread
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no issues here 1.66 rom perfectly focused.

Is your ISO on auto? If not, put it there. If so, try forcing it to like 200 or 400.

mazzarin said:
Is your ISO on auto? If not, put it there. If so, try forcing it to like 200 or 400.
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thanks guys for the reply.
as for iso. can any 1 really explain what is it ? i had try setting iso to 400. but the pic still look blurry as usual.

.hide said:
thanks guys for the reply.
as for iso. can any 1 really explain what is it ? i had try setting iso to 400. but the pic still look blurry as usual.
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ISO is the camera's sensitivity to light, the more sensitive the setting (higher number, i.e 800) the better the capture in darker situations (the image quality overall, however, will suffer and become 'grainy').
Is the camera set to touch focus?

rp-x1 said:
ISO is the camera's sensitivity to light, the more sensitive the setting (higher number, i.e 800) the better the capture in darker situations (the image quality overall, however, will suffer and become 'grainy').
Is the camera set to touch focus?
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hi rp. thanks for the explanation on the iso.
ya it was set as touch focus

.hide said:
hi rp. thanks for the explanation on the iso.
ya it was set as touch focus
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Try switching touch focus off and take a few pictures. Does the situation change?

does not change. i notice using flash the blurry seem to be gone. but without, it kidda a mess.
p/s. how do i enable metering mode? its gray out on my option.

.hide said:
does not change. i notice using flash the blurry seem to be gone. but without, it kidda a mess.
p/s. how do i enable metering mode? its gray out on my option.
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Are you taking pictures in dark areas or in daylight?
Metering mode is greyed out on mine also.

you're just moving your phone while taking pictures, hence resulting in blurry photos.
Having the flash turned on allows for shorter exposure times, so even if you move your hand you won't notice much blur.
Just try and hold your breath while being still as much as you while while you shoot pictures

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Are you taking pictures in dark areas or in daylight?
Metering mode is greyed out on mine also.
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i am taking on daylight
@ ephestione
ok . at least i learned something new from hd2. thanks alot dude~

good tip to reduce blur in pictures is to set the "brightness" setting to lowest.
This is not actually brightness but exposure time, so shorter exposure means less change to capture you shaky hands.
Pro Tip: also good idea is not drinking 2/3 bottle of whisky in the night and try to take phone 1st thing in the morning

rumpleforeskin said:
good tip to reduce blur in pictures is to set the "brightness" setting to lowest.
This is not actually brightness but exposure time, so shorter exposure means less change to capture you shaky hands.
Pro Tip: also good idea is not drinking 2/3 bottle of whisky in the night and try to take phone 1st thing in the morning
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so meaning reduce brightness will shorter the exposure time?
sorry yah. if my question sound silly. i am a total noob in camera stuff

.hide said:
so meaning reduce brightness will shorter the exposure time?
sorry yah. if my question sound silly. i am a total noob in camera stuff
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yes, becuase the "shutter" is opened for less time, like on a real film camera, the longer its open the more the light reacts with the film, if left open for a long time it will be completely white, if opened and shut extremely fast it will be black...
so, in regards to digital cameras, its the same principal with i think a small lcd screen? registering light.. anyway, its complicated!
so yes is the answer to your question hope this makes a little more sense!

tc3_racer_001 said:
yes, becuase the "shutter" is opened for less time, like on a real film camera, the longer its open the more the light reacts with the film, if left open for a long time it will be completely white, if opened and shut extremely fast it will be black...
so, in regards to digital cameras, its the same principal with i think a small lcd screen? registering light.. anyway, its complicated!
so yes is the answer to your question hope this makes a little more sense!
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wow thanks tc3. realy appreciate for your time for replying me . appreciate

rumpleforeskin said:
good tip to reduce blur in pictures is to set the "brightness" setting to lowest.
This is not actually brightness but exposure time, so shorter exposure means less change to capture you shaky hands.
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Do you have a source for this statement? There is usually a difference between exposure and brightness (see http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/forums/thread653.htm for example) so it would help a lot to know exactly what the HTC HD2 camera "brightness" does.
[edit: I just took five pictures of the same thing, outside in the sun, with varying levels of brightness - they all ended up with the same exposure time.]

also check the camera glass isnt covered in crud

Bright spot in corner of Night Mode photos

I'm getting a bright spot in the upper left hand corner of my photos (with the home button to the right) whenever I use the 8M night shot mode. I don't see it when I use 16:9 OR use other photo modes. It looks like as if the exposure is off in the corner. For example, if I take a photo of the moon in the sky, there would be the bright spot of the moon, with a second bright spot in the corner. Is this normal or some software bug?

You mind to upload a photo having the issue?

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ithehappy said:
You mind to upload a photo having the issue?
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First two photos are taken using Night Mode with the slight color discoloration in the upper left hand corner, however, the first photo taken in 4:3 shows more discoloration compared to the 16:9 second photo. The last photo is taken with the night mode off for comparison.

CyberSniper said:
First two photos are taken using Night Mode with the slight color discoloration in the upper left hand corner, however, the first photo taken in 4:3 shows more discoloration compared to the 16:9 second photo. The last photo is taken with the night mode off for comparison.
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Isn't that the effect of the flash led ?

Sp1tfire said:
Isn't that the effect of the flash led ?
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Flash was off for all the photos.

CyberSniper said:
Flash was off for all the photos.
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Dang, you blew up my theory. A falling star maybe ?

Sp1tfire said:
Dang, you blew up my theory. A falling star maybe ?
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I wish, its even worse for some other photos as it throws the color off for more colorful pictures taken at night.

Bright spot
It looks like some sort of internal reflection from inside the camera unit or edge around the lens (either external or internal). If it is then the problem would get worse the longer the exposure of the shot and/or higher ISO.
It explains why the picture with the night mode off isn't as bad as I suspect either the exposure was shorter or the ISO setting lower, hence the change in sensitivity to light.
If it is an internal reflection there's not much you can do about it other than changing/repairing the phone under warranty.

gillygumdrops said:
It looks like some sort of internal reflection from inside the camera unit or edge around the lens (either external or internal). If it is then the problem would get worse the longer the exposure of the shot and/or higher ISO.
It explains why the picture with the night mode off isn't as bad as I suspect either the exposure was shorter or the ISO setting lower, hence the change in sensitivity to light.
If it is an internal reflection there's not much you can do about it other than changing/repairing the phone under warranty.
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I believe your theory is spot on. As I tried taking a video at a live concert and i would have a glare spot in the exact same spot from the strobe lights. I'm just wondering if this problem is persistent across different units or its just mine before I go for a repair. I don't want to have to buy new screen protectors again.

HTC one great phone, lacks focus

I mean it in a literal sense.
If you look at the image below, youll be able to see that its a bit blurry,
I've drawn 2 black lines in the image, notice that the top and the bottom is blurry and the center is focused.
It doesnt occur alot, but it does happen and sometimes even in videos.
Any help as to why? Perhaps 4.2.2 might fix this?

I think the DOF is so narrow because the lens has a wide aperture of F2.0 which helps in low light.

RoSonic_ said:
I think the DOF is so narrow because the lens has a wide aperture of F2.0 which helps in low light.
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Can you explain what DOF is?
Is there anyway I could fix it? You think anyone else has this problem?

"depth of field (DOF) is the distance between the nearest and farthest objects in a scene that appear acceptably sharp in an image." - (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_of_field)
And I don't think it's a problem. It's just how the lens is made with a large aperture to allow more light in to the image sensor.
You could try to compensate this a bit by increasing the sharpness from the camera menu.

I'd be more concerned with the poor dynamic range shown in the top of the pic. ;O)
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That`s totally normal for the one, it only exposes the focus point, instead of the whole image, could htc not have given us a choice
John.
americasteam said:
I'd be more concerned with the poor dynamic range shown in the top of the pic. ;O)
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
That`s totally normal for the one, it only exposes the focus point, instead of the whole image, could htc not have given us a choice
John.
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Well that sucks. One of the reasons I bought this phone was for the camera.
Do you know anyway I could fix this? or atleast minimize it?

The problem is when the image contains both dark and bright areas, if you focus on the bright, the dark areas will be underexposed and if you focus on the dark the bright areas will be overexposed, you need to find an area to focus on that will give you an average exposure for the entire image.
I have the same problem, but some photo`s are amazing and some are utter crap.
Try using hdr mode, it takes multiple images at different exposure levels and then integrates them into one photo, but you need to keep the phone very steady, hopefully HTC will fix this problem.
John.
uzman1243 said:
Well that sucks. One of the reasons I bought this phone was for the camera.
Do you know anyway I could fix this? or atleast minimize it?
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Mine does this as well. Easiest fix I've come across is just tapping on the screen in the area you want focused...it seems to hold focus better after the first time and the photos look a lot better.
Problem is, I generally forget about this until after the first picture is taken without it. So it's a process for sure.
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Has anybody tried some other camera apps from the play store, maybe we can find one that exposes correctly, i wish the one had my nikon`s matrix metering
John.
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I bought this Camera Zoom FX app for £0.50p on sale that i never used, i think it`s about time i tried it.
John.

Mine is the same way. Wasn't bashing the camera was just giving my first impression of the pic posted. I think the camera is excellent for a phone. Small sensor and tiny optics will only go so far. This device is fantastic as an overall package.
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The sensor is great for a phone camera, but the software that does the exposure is very very poor or am i missing something???
John.

You rack focus
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Why are all you guys saying this is normal? Either you have defective phones or you don't know how to take pictures! ... The only time my One does this is when I use touch to focus on Macro mode. I have taken hundreds of pictures and no pictures look like yours unless I wanted them to.

Agreed. The picture in the OP looks like an issue with OIS, not depth of field.
If it was a one time thing then this thread doesn't need to exist. If it happens a lot the phone needs to be replaced.
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NxNW said:
Agreed. The picture in the OP looks like an issue with OIS, not depth of field.
If it was a one time thing then this thread doesn't need to exist. If it happens a lot the phone needs to be replaced.
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Well its not a repetitive condition but occurs once in a while. Even in videos.

Try camera fv-5 from playstore. DSLR style camera app with multiple metering modes.
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AllAboutTheCore said:
Why are all you guys saying this is normal? Either you have defective phones or you don't know how to take pictures! ... The only time my One does this is when I use touch to focus on Macro mode. I have taken hundreds of pictures and no pictures look like yours unless I wanted them to.
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I do think it's a flaw in the camera software that exposure and focus can't be decoupled. I LOVE the shallow depth of field but can't use it property because touching-to-focus blows out highlights.

uzman1243 said:
I mean it in a literal sense.
If you look at the image below, youll be able to see that its a bit blurry,
I've drawn 2 black lines in the image, notice that the top and the bottom is blurry and the center is focused.
It doesnt occur alot, but it does happen and sometimes even in videos.
Any help as to why? Perhaps 4.2.2 might fix this?
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Most of these comments come from people who have no idea what they're talking about.
Your phone is perfect. Nothing wrong with it. All you did was tap to focus on the middle of the picture.
This did 2 things.
1. It will FOCUS on the center of the pic. Other areas will be blurred. Hence the term, focus. That's how cameras work.
2. The exposure was adjusted to where you focused it to. What does that mean?
If you focused on a light area the camera will adjust the exposure to compensate. What that means is if it's light, the camera will darken the overall image. Lights become darker, farms become darker.
If the photo is focused on a dark area, the camera will adjust the photo by making the dark area brighter and the bright areas, as a result, brighter. Which is why you have super white skies.
To fix it, go to the camera settings and I think select touch to capture. But to say fix means it's a problem.
It's not.
For landscapes, use landscape mode which will focus on the entire image and bot blur. Also you can tap on the area where you want adjusted, ie brighter or darker. Blur again is only cause you focused. Don't focus on landscapes.
Photographer here. Focus on this comment and not anyone who says your phone is messed up. This is why.
Take a look at my two attached photos. One I clicked on the sky and the other I clicked on the grass. Light then dark. Can you figure out which was which and see what happened to the photo?
Note that it was overcast and cloudy. There were NO BLUE SKIES. it was grey. So the sky wasnt killed by the camera
Btw don't always use Hdr. Don't. Its not a saving grace every time. If you shoot in the sun you're shooting in the sun. Photography rule #1: DON'T.
ALWAYS USE THE SCENES WHEN YOU CAN. WHICH IS WHY THEYTE THERE AND EXIST. SLRS HAVE THEM TOO FKR A REASON!
As for the lines, panorama? Did you move too fast? That's what happens when you do - camera can't stitch properly
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chc31 said:
Most of these comments come from people who have no idea what they're talking about.
Your phone is perfect. Nothing wrong with it. All you did was tap to focus on the middle of the picture.
This did 2 things.
1. It will FOCUS on the center of the pic. Other areas will be blurred. Hence the term, focus. That's how cameras work.
2. The exposure was adjusted to where you focused it to. What does that mean?
If you focused on a light area the camera will adjust the exposure to compensate. What that means is if it's light, the camera will darken the overall image. Lights become darker, farms become darker.
If the photo is focused on a dark area, the camera will adjust the photo by making the dark area brighter and the bright areas, as a result, brighter. Which is why you have super white skies.
To fix it, go to the camera settings and I think select touch to capture. But to say fix means it's a problem.
It's not.
For landscapes, use landscape mode which will focus on the entire image and bot blur. Also you can tap on the area where you want adjusted, ie brighter or darker. Blur again is only cause you focused. Don't focus on landscapes.
Photographer here. Focus on this comment and not anyone who says your phone is messed up. This is why.
Take a look at my two attached photos. One I clicked on the sky and the other I clicked on the grass. Light then dark. Can you figure out which was which and see what happened to the photo?
Note that it was overcast and cloudy. There were NO BLUE SKIES. it was grey. So the sky wasnt killed by the camera
Btw don't always use Hdr. Don't. Its not a saving grace every time. If you shoot in the sun you're shooting in the sun. Photography rule #1: DON'T.
ALWAYS USE THE SCENES WHEN YOU CAN. WHICH IS WHY THEYTE THERE AND EXIST. SLRS HAVE THEM TOO FKR A REASON!
As for the lines, panorama? Did you move too fast? That's what happens when you do - camera can't stitch properly
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The black lines on the image, I DREW to show where it gets blurred (not panaroma).
You're right, but when I focus on the center, all objects in the background should get blurred right? I mean thats how the focus works. You focus on a particular subject (lets assume in the foreground) the objects in background gets blurred.
If you see the image I uploaded (in the top line) the upper part of the tree is blurred and the lower part is focused.
It doesn't work like that right?

[Camera ] camera lens issue or is normal ?

Hey. Today by the accident I did photo in totally dark room and I notice that middle of the screen is dark and outside till edge is getting more lighter I'll post photo of this what I did.
Please everyone to make test photo in totally dark room and let me know if only I've this issue or everyone have same problem otherwise I need to go to store change him (3 time) for new

It show all black on my screen
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Did you remember to remove lens protector sticker?

Ave666 said:
It show all black on my screen
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You have to watch on it in the night or where is totally dark. And if you zoom in this photo/screen shot you can see that middle part is totally dark and edges are more light.
And yes I removed lens protection sticker

Ave666
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is same foto (foto 2) but i did two arrows to show where is this and if you watch on mobile please zoom it an if in laptop please go to your screen 5 - 10 cm to see this

I think it is normal issue on non ois camera
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Ave666 said:
I think it is normal issue on non ois camera
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But did you check also at yours if you have same issue ?
just make a photo in totally dark room/place without any flash and other extra light

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2675768
Read it! I think it's normal.
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I played a little bit with Photoshop with your black picture. I think it is totally normal that you cannot get a real 100% black picture out of a cam. A dark room is not 100% black for your cam. Maybe for your eyes. And even if you would make a photo of an ideal 100% black room in the end you would make a photo of your cameras chip noise. But the picture for me looks more like a litte rest of light the camera could fetch.

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I played a little bit with Photoshop with your black picture. I think it is totally normal that you cannot get a real 100% black picture out of a cam. A dark room is not 100% black for your cam. Maybe for your eyes. And even if you would make a photo of an ideal 100% black room in the end you would make a photo of your cameras chip noise. But the picture for me looks more like a litte rest of light the camera could fetch.
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Ok looks like you make my pic way easy to see for everyone but you can check if is same at yours s5 ?
I just need to know if every s5 have a same issue because my nexus5 in same room same time have no this issue !!

I tried to make a black picture. it looks similar to yours but it is nearly black (more than yours). I pressed my black soft S5 bag on the camera lens.
So I still think its not an issue but it shows that the S5 camera is much more sensitiv to distinguish between black and nearly black than other cameras that recognize 100% black where the S5 recognizes 98% black. No issue for me.

I would like to say that samsung galaxy s4 have no this issue so I go to change my s5 for new.... again.... what for full of problems phone... really disappointed. ... photo is prove

From which camera was the last picture you posted? Its not 100% black like all the others.

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From which camera was the last picture you posted? Its not 100% black like all the others.
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From galaxy s4

TomaLLoS said:
From galaxy s4
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So the S4 has the same issue what is no issue for me
What you are looking for is a theoretical ideal camera that makes a 100% black picture of a 100% black original. You won't find such a camera anywhere.

My G2's Camera Sucks under Light.

Hello, I have this problem for a while. My phone is taking really bad pictures under fluorescent light (see the 1st pic). To solve this I have applied "tootpaste solution" which removed the AF filter from camera lens, because pictures were all blurry and brighter but it did not help. However the only solution is to covr the head of my phone like a cap. (see the 2nd pic)
Now the question is whether I have to change my rear camera or lens protector to solve this. Thanks for your answers.

Phone is full stock?

did you try to change the white balance in the camera app for taking pictures under flourescent light?

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did you try to change the white balance in the camera app for taking pictures under flourescent light?
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Yes but it made a very little difference.
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