Note 4 N910C - Extended Battery Calibration Issue - Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello everyone.
(Please excuse my lengthy post, I had a lot of details to share. Thanks!)
So I recently bought N910C from a guy in Dubai, who gave me an extended 8500mah battery along with it, and claimed that it would last me 3 days easily (though later he claimed that it runs a day on full use, and 2 days no mild usage. Also claimed that standard 3220mah battery lasts less than 6 hours) but 8500mah would take around 6 hours to charge (it takes me 1.5 max, does 1% in a minute, with quick charger). I was however instructed to calibrate the battery properly, which I did, twice, tried the manual (draining and full charging) method, and also tried two apps: Battery Calibration and Battery HD.
Facts:
After buying, I flashed marshmallow stock rom for N910C and rooted with CF-Autoroot.
I have been using its own fast charger throughout, not the standard charger.
Here is the problem:
Before rooting and changing the rom, the battery was barely lasting and would shut down when around 30%. So I rooted the phone and did the calibration (manual+Battery calibration app), but the battery timing remained the same, or maybe increased slightly. The good thing was that it did not shut down at 30% and went down to 1%, where it stuck for good 15 minutes (with me browsing the net).
After I recharged it, I tried Battery HD app, which ran tests and gave me the following figures of battery usage:
30 minutes on internet: 5%
30 minutes on video: 6%
30 minutes on music: 2%
After this process, the battery again collapsed in its 30s%. I tried the battery calibration method again, but no luck now, battery collapses in its 30s. The guy who I purchased it from keeps sharing the snapshot and claims it was working fine before.
Now my questions:
I read some guides, including topics on XDA that suggested that Exynos drains more than snapdragon. So should I try to make a switch to a variant of note 4 with snapdragon, or would that make no major difference?
Is this battery faulty and I should change it? the Seller claims that he had to come on to an extended battery cause the standard was ****, so I shouldn't try and get another, it would be a waste.
What could be the problem if the battery falls in 30s% even after calibration, with exception to that one time?
Also, when it collapses in its 30s and I put it to charge, the screen shows "charging at 45%", why is that?
Lastly, I read here on xda that zerolemon extended batteries require the standard charger as the quick charger would give **** time and would charge them quickly. Will that apply to me as well? Although my battery isn't zerolemon, it's some unknown brand. And it seemingly charges quite quickly with the regular charger as well (when the phone is turned off).
He claimed that it should take my phone 6 hours to charge, it takes me barely 1.5 hours even on the extended battery, is there something I am doing wrong?
If you went through all of what I wrote, thank you for being so patient! So now, do I have any hope with this phone or should I just sell it off and maybe get an AT&T or T-mobile variant?
Thanks in advance for the guidance to come. I'll keep updating this post with whatever other tests I run, and the progress.
Khurram

Sounds like the battery is faulty. ...try another one if possible

tiguy99 said:
Sounds like the battery is faulty. ...try another one if possible
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That's what I am trying to do, if only I can find someone's spare to try out lol.
p.s. you signature, lol I have the same three phones with the same status, except that my G3 (which is also white) is in a coma and G2 is up for grabs.

pistavampire said:
That's what I am trying to do, if only I can find someone's spare to try out lol.
p.s. you signature, lol I have the same three phones with the same status, except that my G3 (which is also white) is in a coma and G2 is up for grabs.
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Lol!

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Seidio/Mugen/Mobi? Which Extended Battery for Tilt/Kaiser?

Hi-
I apologize if this has already been asked. I *DID* search around this site, several others and even Google but no one seems to have posted a comparison of extended battery compatibility along with pros/cons of the expanded battery cover backing...
So, like everyone else, my Tilt doesn't last overnight w/o a recharge. In looking at my options for extended batteries, it looks like the largest are the Mugen 3000, the Seidio 3200 and the Mobi 3000.
I'm curious as to peoples opinions on these major points:
1-Duration coupled with whether the battery causes lock-ups/freezes or other errors for the phone...
2-How the revised back cover of the phone compares to the OEM cover with respect to the camera lens, speaker and GPS.
3-Cases and cradle chargers that will work w/ extended battery covers...
4-Tweaks or other hacks needed for the Tilt to recognize the extended battery time.
Thanks everyone in advance!!
M
Instead of other I think you should have put the option of " I dont know". I think people clicked for the sake of clicking to see the results quicker. My 2 cents.
extended battery
I have a Boxwave 2700 mah and a Seidio 1600 mah battery. The boxwave is from Taiwan with a humped back cover, so I can use my Seido holster, but will not fit in my cradle. Does fit into my Brodit car holder though, and the full backed extended battery cover will as well.
I cannot for the life of me get the correct battery reserve power reading correct. I have tried every tweak and twitch I have read and perused the registry for settings not mentioned elseware, as well as various 3rd party battery utilities, to no avail. Quite frustrating, as I can alarm on low battery, pull it out, put it back in and have 45-60% battery left on the meter. Don't know what else to do, as it does it with my 1600 and 2700 and did it with a "borrowed' Mugen 3000 for a test. Tried all the reccomendations of running it fully down and doing recharge, all that stuff, still wrong indicaitons of remaining power.
This is my greatest frustration right now with the Tilt I have and the other 8 I have bought for employees.
MWS
wow! im having the same problem!
got the mugen 3000 and the reading is always off!
I cant find any solutions!
I ordered the Seidio 3200 battery and tried charging it in my AT&T 8925 Tilt. I left it on charge until the light turn Green.
Starting using it and within 8 hours I was at LOW battery and system died. I removed the battery and put it back in and the battery indicated goes up to 73%.
What is the deal here. Is it my phone that does not understand that it has a larger battery or is it the battery. Since that time I have sent the battery and got a new one and the same thing.
Is there some software utility to tell the Pocket PC that it has a larger battery.
Confused....????...!!!!
Wow, so...
As I sit here perusing options for replacement Wizard and Kaiser batteries (my sister's phone and my own...) I suddenly fear the pointlessness of choosing an extended battery! Has any headway been made on these extended battery glitches in general?
Nope. The Tilt's hardware always expects the standard battery's capacity, and will turn off when that is reached even if the battery is actually twice the capacity and is still half full.
So what you're saying is buying an extended battery is useless because it will shut off at the regular Tilt battery level? Well, glad I read this thread, I won't waste my money.
Yep. However you can remove/reinsert the battery and have more running time again. But then in that case as you have to turn the device off and open the case anyway you're better off getting a 2nd standard battery and swapping it when it's empty. Saves you from having a Kaiser that's twice as thick for nothing.
What About....
Well, I think one objective would be to try charging it as often as possible. It may be that if you plug it back into a charger, it will grant an extension of time. But in the event you are unable to charge it, you could simply remove and reinsert the battery to continue on. Has anyone tried this? I'm curious to know.
"So what you're saying is buying an extended battery is useless because it will shut off at the regular Tilt battery level? "
Could someone please clarify this as I find it confusing as well, I'm just using the times and percent for reference to understand.
Lets say with the stock battery it takes 8 hours to get to 40%.
Will an extended battery like those listed give me longer, like maybe 10-12 hours before it gets to 40%?
I too have searched and read everything from people swearing to get no extra time at all no matter what they do, to people getting double the talk/data time and everything in between, including but not limited to that the usable time gets longer with each recharge. If I'm going to have to take the battery out 3 times a day, I might as well just get 4 or 5 extra stock sized batteries for the same price.
Looking for someone to clear the fog...
Thanks in advance.
mileskb said:
"So what you're saying is buying an extended battery is useless because it will shut off at the regular Tilt battery level? "
Could someone please clarify this as I find it confusing as well, I'm just using the times and percent for reference to understand.
Lets say with the stock battery it takes 8 hours to get to 40%.
Will an extended battery like those listed give me longer, like maybe 10-12 hours before it gets to 40%?
I too have searched and read everything from people swearing to get no extra time at all no matter what they do, to people getting double the talk/data time and everything in between, including but not limited to that the usable time gets longer with each recharge. If I'm going to have to take the battery out 3 times a day, I might as well just get 4 or 5 extra stock sized batteries for the same price.
Looking for someone to clear the fog...
Thanks in advance.
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Take a read from my post on here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336896&page=2
Battery 2700mAh:
"Full discharge removed battery and replaced and gained 10% so not that much of a difference no where near 50%
So effectively i have 2435mAh battery & 10% reserve so still far better than a 1350mAh."
I wish aztilt would have posted which battery he/she has.
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I am one of those that is very happy with the extended battery because the duration from turn on to auto shut off by the phone is at least 3 hours longer than the OEM battery for my usage. I don't have to think about charging the battery or swapping the battery until I get home at night from work. And there is still the option of remove and reinstall the battery if I don't want to charge it right away. I rarely if never need to do the latter.
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If I could get 3 more hours before shut-down, that might be worth it. It would mean 90% of the time, I'd get 12 hours of use as long as I didn't need the GPS. It would have meant last week I would have not spent an extra 30 minutes on ice because the GPS quit with less than a mile to go, but I didn't know which way, and I had not way to charge it, so I spent an extra 45 minutes trying to find the highway home when it was time to leave. Just 3 extra hours would have been perfect.
I can't tell you how many times an extra 30 minutes even would have made all the difference in the world, and I really can't think of a time when I needed more than a couple hours.
I realize I'm playing to its weakness. I rarely use the phone itself, but I'm always in email, rss feeds, web browsing, listening to music and using the GPS.
If an extended battery will get me through a normal workday without having to rush home to charge it... That would make me a happy camper.
I have the Mugen 3000
I have the seidio 3200 and after i fully charged it for the first time use, I use it for like 12 hours of txt, calls, internet and normally at the end of the 12 hours i have about 20% of battery left. Just mainly depends on what ROM your using, what radio your using and what programs you have running. Just because 5 people have the same battery doesnt mean all 5 people use their phones for the same thing. Best thing i found is find the one with the highest battery life and go with it.

Battery drains faster than it should

Hello there,
I would really like some advice - my battery is draining like water. I'm quite convinced it is the regulation of the unit; I bought a 2400mAh battery replacement and it lasted ages on first go, but then my G1 started draining stupidly fast after I'd recharged it. This also happens on the stock battery too (buy even quicker!). I'm convinced it is the regulation because a) I've never had battery problems previously and b) the battery meter starts at about 26% when I plug it it in (after the phone shuts off from it being dead and I then plug in the charger).
I actually have a bricked G1 that still charges batteries, so I thought I'd do an overnight charge on the battery that way, to 'remind' the other G1 what a 100% battery is like, but that didn't seem to work either.
Can someone help? Is this a known problem? I would really appreciate any advice.
Mark
Things that cause ridiculous battery drain;
Backlight, keep it at no more than 30%
Wifi - turn off search for open networks,
Gps - wow does this drain
gridlock32404 said:
Things that cause ridiculous battery drain;
Backlight, keep it at no more than 30%
Wifi - turn off search for open networks,
Gps - wow does this drain
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GPS doesn't really drain battery unless it's actively being used...at least not on my phone.
You can also try disabling 3G if you're not in a 3G area. It will keep trying to find a 3G signal, which really drains battery.
For the record, I have a stock battery that I get ~13-16 hours on from a single charge... my backlight is at 40%, GPS is always on, and I use wifi whenever I want to surf the web and am near an open network.
OP...if your battery is lasting you only a couple of hours, then I'd try to reflash your ROM. Might help...
Wow 13 to 16, I am lucky if I get 6 with 30% backlight, and wi-fi and gps off, I have always gotten that on ever rom even stock with no widgets, you are one of the very few with good battery life cause I have seen many complaints about short battery ranges
gridlock32404 said:
Wow 13 to 16, I am lucky if I get 6 with 30% backlight, and wi-fi and gps off, I have always gotten that on ever rom even stock with no widgets, you are one of the very few with good battery life cause I have seen many complaints about short battery ranges
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Yeah, that's on a normal, moderate usage day. If I use it heavily, with a lot of wifi and web browsing, then I'll get around 10.
Maybe your battery needs to be replaced... could just be old and not holding a charge properly.
It's 2 months old, has done it from day one, I also have another battery that does it too that I kept from a previously brick g1, so one 3 phones, all the same battery life but then I use it quite heavily, always browsing on the web since my computer burned out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=555048
try that? 3rd gen battery could help..
Thanks for the suggestions, but it's not a wifi/3g/brightness etc problem - I've had a G1 for six months, I know exactly how much power should be consumed. It's also not the battery; I have two stock batteries and a brand new 2400mAh battery, which for the first few charges lasted about 2 - 2.5 days and was brilliant (as it should be), but now doesn't last all that long.
I may have made the situation slightly better however - I did a Nandroid backup, wiped to factory (well, Cyanogen 4.0.4 anyway) and booted into that. I then restored the backup and when I plugged back in to the charger, the meter was at 85%, and seemed to take a normal amount of time to charge (and not jump to 100%). It remains to be seen if the problem is solved, I've yet to have the battery drain (this is a good sign though) an plug in the charger to see if it will jump from 0 to 25 or not.
I'll re-post when I know.
run the battery down until the phone shuts off without plugging it in.
charge the battery while the phone is off over night
do this 3-5 times and see if you get any improvement.
also remember some of the cheap 2400 batts from ebay and such claim 2400 but that is from 3.5V to 3.0V. The G1 considers 3.2V to be dead so you only get from 3.5V to 3.2V which sucks.
I'm with gridlock on this one. My batteries suck. It always needs a mid day charge. And to the poster that said to reflash a rom, that is bad advice. There is known issues with getting poor performance out of these batteries. I have 2 and both do the same. Got the second one from complaining to t-mo about how bad it sucks.
Reflashing seems to have worked...the 2400mAh battery seems a lot better now, it lasted nearly two days (it runs at 3.7v, according to my battery diagnostic), I've only just recharged it last night. When I plug it in, it charges normally and linearly now, instead of jumping straight to 25%.
So my advice, if anyone is having similar problems to me, would be to try a reflash.
Thanks for your help everyone.

[Q] Battery Meter on Mango Inaccurate?

So i recently flashed CleanDFT ROM, first couple of days the meter read out 1 day and 18 hours which im very surprised then it went down to 1 day and 4 hours, now this morning i unplugged and it tells me i got 19 hours left from full charge, should i go by this? or is there something wrong?
hello can you help me wid flashing...i came from android...no idea of how to do it...
cyril008 said:
hello can you help me wid flashing...i came from android...no idea of how to do it...
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Redirecting you to the right place.
If you have just flashed a new rom, in general, you need to go through a couple of battery cycles before the battery read can be accurate. I remember when flashing my ATT FUze I had to wait 2-3 complete charging cycles ie. discharging battery to 10% and charging back to full before I could get accurate reading. If you are experiencing worse battery time than before flashing after 2-3 cycles you might need to reflash the rom; you should see better battery time with custom roms, so I have heard.
I also wouldn't go by the battery saver timing, I would go by wpbench or real time use to get an accurate reading on battery time. I have a 1800 mah battery in my focus and it reads 24 hours on battery life
As far as i know, doesnt all the ROMs have basically the same battery life?
Ill be going out of town sometime this week and ill be out most of the day, i need a rom thatll at least last a whole 12 to 14 hours at the most or whole day at best of just occasional twittering and occasional checks on facebook and probably capture some pictures and a video and maybe an hour at most on music? im sure this phone can handle it but idk what you guys suggest
I have the same issue with ATT samsung focus with Roger latest updates, the battery meter is just not accurate, sometimes full and just reboot upon eject from the micro usb. The battery was fine until recently. Found a few other with the same issue online, no solution available yet.
*pulling out battery doesn't work*
The solution is exactly the same as it is on a laptop.
Lithium ion batteries, and, actually, come to think of it, pretty all rechargeable batteries lose capacity over time. The phone, to begin with, doesn't have a good idea of how much capacity is left, and it has to estimate based on previous performance. This is partially a result of battery manufacturers going as cheap as possible with the circuitry in lithium ion batteries.
The phone needs to figure out how old your battery is. This data is definitely lost with a new rom. Leave it to charge overnight, then unplug it and let the battery run all the way to dead. Charge it again, and your battery percentages should be correct. It may take more than one cycle, but the meter should settle into a correct estimate eventually.
Incorrect battery stats are a possible reason for fluctuations in battery life and reseting them as described in the previous post can help.
Another thing which you can do is use an app like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1328730 to check the reported mV rating of your battery at full charge. That can serve as an indicator of the battery life you can expect with your current battery stats.

Note 4 Battery Problems

Hi everyone!
I got a Note 4 a few days ago and it has battery issues.
I got it second hand online from a guy I don't know. I'm from Romania, I think the phone is from the UK, it's Verizon branded. The model is SM-N910V and the Android version is 6.0.1. It's not rooted. I noticed this V version isn't very common.
The battery that came with it was pretty poor, it would drain in a few hours with minimal usage and the worst problem is the phone would suddenly shut down at about 30-35% battery life. Then it would go into a booting loop, without being able to actually boot until I plugged it in.
I bought a new genuine battery from a popular online store here (F64), battery life is better, but still with just wifi, it went to 50% in about 2 hours of browsing. Without wifi or data (very little), it lasted for a day and a half. But the phone suddenly shut down at 8% battery life, again going into a booting loop, without being able to actually boot until I plugged it in. I'd also like to mention, when the new battery came, it only had 4% battery life left (I heard they should come about half charged, is that true?) and also there were a few reviews from people who had to try multiple batteries from this store until they got lucky with a good one. Both the old and the new batteries look identical, I don't see any signs of counterfeit.
Should I return the battery and try a new one? Is there a chance there's something wrong with the device itself?
Thank you very much!
Common problem.
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Common problem.
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I noticed that. Any solution?
My real fear is if there's something wrong with the device, because I can't return it.
carabus1206 said:
Hi everyone!
I got a Note 4 a few days ago and it has battery issues.
I got it second hand online from a guy I don't know. I'm from Romania, I think the phone is from the UK, it's Verizon branded. The model is SM-N910V and the Android version is 6.0.1. It's not rooted. I noticed this V version isn't very common.
The battery that came with it was pretty poor, it would drain in a few hours with minimal usage and the worst problem is the phone would suddenly shut down at about 30-35% battery life. Then it would go into a booting loop, without being able to actually boot until I plugged it in.
I bought a new genuine battery from a popular online store here (F64), battery life is better, but still with just wifi, it went to 50% in about 2 hours of browsing. Without wifi or data (very little), it lasted for a day and a half. But the phone suddenly shut down at 8% battery life, again going into a booting loop, without being able to actually boot until I plugged it in. I'd also like to mention, when the new battery came, it only had 4% battery life left (I heard they should come about half charged, is that true?) and also there were a few reviews from people who had to try multiple batteries from this store until they got lucky with a good one. Both the old and the new batteries look identical, I don't see any signs of counterfeit.
Should I return the battery and try a new one? Is there a chance there's something wrong with the device itself?
Thank you very much!
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Return the battery.
The seller store the battery in a very poor way.
Lithium should be kept at around 40% charged if you store it for a long time (more than 1 month)
I have 5 batteries with me, 3 of them are considered broken (70 - 60% left)
The last 2 are still in very good condition, around 98 - 99%
About your device, you will need around a few days of charge cycle with a good battery.
d4rkkn16ht said:
Return the battery.
The seller store the battery in a very poor way.
Lithium should be kept at around 40% charged if you store it for a long time (more than 1 month)
I have 5 batteries with me, 3 of them are considered broken (70 - 60% left)
The last 2 are still in very good condition, around 98 - 99%
About your device, you will need around a few days of charge cycle with a good battery.
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Thanks for your answer. I didn't know batteries for this phone are so problematic.
I just charged it to 100% slowly from my PC, will use it normally and see how much the battery lasts and if it shuts down again. As I went through forums, some people say I need to do battery calibration. If it's still bad, I'll return it.
Thanks again!
Try to get a battery direct from Samsung. Failing that buy a PowerBear or Anker. Do a factory reset and calibrate your battery by fully charging it, then running it down to 0% (if it shuts down, keep turning back on until it won't turn on). Then charge fully back to 100% again - DO NOT USE FAST CHARGE.
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Try to get a battery direct from Samsung. Failing that buy a PowerBear or Anker. Do a factory reset and calibrate your battery by fully charging it, then running it down to 0% (if it shuts down, keep turning back on until it won't turn on). Then charge fully back to 100% again - DO NOT USE FAST CHARGE.
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I will look for a store somewhere. I don't think I can find those two brands here.
I did a factory reset when I bought it a few days ago, but that was with the old battery. Will do the factory reset after I drain it to 0% later today.
I don't have a 'fast charge' charger, and I have it disabled in settings.
Thank you for your response!
carabus1206 said:
Thanks for your answer. I didn't know batteries for this phone are so problematic.
I just charged it to 100% slowly from my PC, will use it normally and see how much the battery lasts and if it shuts down again. As I went through forums, some people say I need to do battery calibration. If it's still bad, I'll return it.
Thanks again!
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carabus1206 said:
I will look for a store somewhere. I don't think I can find those two brands here.
I did a factory reset when I bought it a few days ago, but that was with the old battery. Will do the factory reset after I drain it to 0% later today.
I don't have a 'fast charge' charger, and I have it disabled in settings.
Thank you for your response!
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What I said before is for all phone that uses Lithium Battery.
Lithium Battery must be kept in a storage at around 40 - 80% charged & must avoid hot places if you don't use it for a long time.
Draining Lithium Battery to 0% will deteriorate the battery faster so it's a big NO.
Calibration is done on the phone not the battery.
Delete "batterystats.bin" to calibrate the battery gauge.
Calibration is useless if the battery is bad (you received it at 0% it means that the storage condition is bad thus the battery is bad.
Charging from PC is a BIG NO as USB port on PC only provide around 500mAh & usually it's unstable.
The charging rate is too low & it could deteriorate the battery faster too.
And the last....I think factory reset doesn't necessary reset the batterystats.bin, so you have to delete it manually if you are rooted or follow this link if you are not rooted.
d4rkkn16ht said:
What I said before is for all phone that uses Lithium Battery.
Lithium Battery must be kept in a storage at around 40 - 80% charged & must avoid hot places if you don't use it for a long time.
Draining Lithium Battery to 0% will deteriorate the battery faster so it's a big NO.
Calibration is done on the phone not the battery.
Delete "batterystats.bin" to calibrate the battery gauge.
Calibration is useless if the battery is bad (you received it at 0% it means that the storage condition is bad thus the battery is bad.
Charging from PC is a BIG NO as USB port on PC only provide around 500mAh & usually it's unstable.
The charging rate is too low & it could deteriorate the battery faster too.
And the last....I think factory reset doesn't necessary reset the batterystats.bin, so you have to delete it manually if you are rooted or follow this link if you are not rooted.
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Thank you very much! I will reply with updates soon!
I had a similar problems, and I have received my new battery yesterday which has been charged in 51% so I drained it to 1%-0% without unexpected shutting downs, I have charged it again and so far it seems to be ok
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d4rkkn16ht said:
Delete "batterystats.bin" to calibrate the battery
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Can you tell me where it is? In which folder
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carabus1206 said:
Thank you very much! I will reply with updates soon!
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Hi, I didn't return the new battery after all, I think it 'calibrated' itself after the first charge. Also it goes from 100% to 1% and shuts down properly now.
I did two tests on full battery:
- barely using it, no wifi, data etc, just a few short calls (probably 30 mins of OST) and it lasted almost 6 days
- stress test, wifi and data on, gps with maps and waze on, maximum brightness and and a very long youtube video playing constantly (screen on) and it lasted about 5 hours and 30 mins
In normal use it lasts me about 2 days, but it slightly worries me that if I keep mobile data on all the time it only lasts until the end of the first day.
Would this be considered a good battery life for the Note4?
Thanks to everyone for replying and helping!!

Question in regard to degrading 6p battery

Hello to all,
I just purchased a brand new Nexus 6p that was purchased about two years ago directly from Google. The individual bought it but never even opened up the box so the phone has never been used or even turned on until four days ago when I got it. My question is this. Even though it's still a brand new 6p can the battery still degrade even though it has never been used before? My first thought would be no because the battery has never been used meaning no wear and tear to the battery even though it's just been sitting there unopened for two yesrs but then I got to debating this with myself and I just don't know the clear answer. Should I be okay in terms of the degrading battery issue since my battery has never been used before? Any help is greatly appreciated.
Dconn1975 said:
Hello to all,
I just purchased a brand new Nexus 6p that was purchased about two years ago directly from Google. The individual bought it but never even opened up the box so the phone has never been used or even turned on until four days ago when I got it. My question is this. Even though it's still a brand new 6p can the battery still degrade even though it has never been used before? My first thought would be no because the battery has never been used meaning no wear and tear to the battery even though it's just been sitting there unopened for two yesrs but then I got to debating this with myself and I just don't know the clear answer. Should I be okay in terms of the degrading battery issue since my battery has never been used before? Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Battery degradation occurs through it's lifetime of charging cycles due to heat (and chemical changes within the battery). Since your device has not been subject to this, it should be like new. Note there are literally thousands of N6P users who have never experienced battery degradation (or bootlooping). We have 3 in our family and none have been affected. I suggest you just let the phone charge and discharge normally a few times before you start forming any judgement on your battery life or SOT. Install Accubattery and check the battery health after several deep charges. After several full charge cycles, Accubattery will estimate the capacity of your battery vs. a new one (3450 mAh). Enjoy your new 6P. It has been a great phone so far (knock wood).
v12xke said:
Battery degradation occurs through it's lifetime of charging cycles due to heat (and chemical changes within the battery). Since your device has not been subject to this, it should be like new. Note there are literally thousands of N6P users who have never experienced battery degradation (or bootlooping). We have 3 in our family and none have been affected. I suggest you just let the phone charge and discharge normally a few times before you start forming any judgement on your battery life or SOT. Install Accubattery and check the battery health after several deep charges. After several full charge cycles, Accubattery will estimate the capacity of your battery vs. a new one (3450 mAh). Enjoy your new 6P. It has been a great phone so far (knock wood).
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I appreciate the clarification on that. I wasn't sure when the degrading process started on a battery was. I love you this phone. In fact it's my second time owning it and by far it's my all time favorite Android phone I've ever used. I'm glad to know my battery should act as new and I should be okay from the battery issues. I appreciate you explaining in detail to me about what to do and how to check my battery life. I'll download that app now.
v12xke said:
Battery degradation occurs through it's lifetime of charging cycles due to heat (and chemical changes within the battery). Since your device has not been subject to this, it should be like new. Note there are literally thousands of N6P users who have never experienced battery degradation (or bootlooping). We have 3 in our family and none have been affected. I suggest you just let the phone charge and discharge normally a few times before you start forming any judgement on your battery life or SOT. Install Accubattery and check the battery health after several deep charges. After several full charge cycles, Accubattery will estimate the capacity of your battery vs. a new one (3450 mAh). Enjoy your new 6P. It has been a great phone so far (knock wood).
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Okay I just downloaded accubattey. Now once I charge it for a while I will get results about the health of my battery. What do I need to look for that's tells me it's good? Any tips on using the app. So indeed I never should charge past 80 percent? I always have charged to 100 percent so that's going to take some getting used to. Also I don't need to let it drop below 20 percent? Thanks again for your help on this. This is all new to me as I've never had to guard against a bad battery before nor have I ever had one. I hope my new 6p will be okay. So far it's seemed to have kept a good charge but I'd of course like to see it do a little better being that it has a 3450amp battery inside. There have been a couple times of times where it seemed to eat up battery life quickly but I found out I had some apps running in the background such as YouTube once where it consumed 77 percent of the battery overnight once but I have since fixed that. It hasn't happened again so I'm good there. Anyways just curious to know what I need to be looking for on the app. Thanks a lot!!
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Okay I just downloaded accubattey. Now once I charge it for a while I will get results about the health of my battery. What do I need to look for that's tells me it's good? Any tips on using the app. So indeed I never should charge past 80 percent? I always have charged to 100 percent so that's going to take some getting used to. Also I don't need to let it drop below 20 percent? Thanks again for your help on this. This is all new to me as I've never had to guard against a bad battery before nor have I ever had one. I hope my new 6p will be okay. So far it's seemed to have kept a good charge but I'd of course like to see it do a little better being that it has a 3450amp battery inside. There have been a couple times of times where it seemed to eat up battery life quickly but I found out I had some apps running in the background such as YouTube once where it consumed 77 percent of the battery overnight once but I have since fixed that. It hasn't happened again so I'm good there. Anyways just curious to know what I need to be looking for on the app. Thanks a lot!!
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I've always charged my battery to 100% and will continue . I leave it on the charger at the office and home, all night long 24/7. When I leave the house I want to know it is 100%. One thing to note is that you should not take the phone off the charger until the APP tells you it is charged, not the phone itself. You will see current flowing into the battery sometimes 45 minutes to an hour after the phone says 100%. That, and let the phone drain down to below 20% first in order to get an accurate charge measurement. After that you look on the health tab for the estimated capacity. It will be provided in both mAh and percentage. Quick Start guide here.
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I've always charged my battery to 100% and will continue . I leave it on the charger at the office and home, all night long 24/7. When I leave the house I want to know it is 100%. One thing to note is that you should not take the phone off the charger until the APP tells you it is charged, not the phone itself. You will see current flowing into the battery sometimes 45 minutes to an hour after the phone says 100%. That, and let the phone drain down to below 20% first in order to get an accurate charge measurement. After that you look on the health tab for the estimated capacity. It will be provided in both mAh and percentage. Quick Start guide here.
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So you actually charge your battery to 100 percent. I guess I will do the same since I'm used to doing it that way plus I want that extra 20 percent charge. This seems like a really good app. I appreciate you guys on giving me the heads up on it. I downloaded it to both of my devices which my daily driver is the axon 7 mini. That battery isn't the best so maybe this app will help me tweak that battery into keeping a longer charge. I like a smaller device to be my daily driver although for right now my 6p is my daily driver just bc it's new but after a couple weeks I'll swap back over to my axon 7 mini as my daily driver
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So you actually charge your battery to 100 percent. I guess I will do the same since I'm used to doing it that way plus I want that extra 20 percent charge. This seems like a really good app. I appreciate you guys on giving me the heads up on it. I downloaded it to both of my devices which my daily driver is the axon 7 mini. That battery isn't the best so maybe this app will help me tweak that battery into keeping a longer charge. I like a smaller device to be my daily driver although for right now my 6p is my daily driver just bc it's new but after a couple weeks I'll swap back over to my axon 7 mini as my daily driver
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Yeah, I disable that 80% charge alarm first thing. Accubattery is just a tool and it's just giving you an estimate so don't rely solely on it. I will say that after a few full charges it converges to one percentage value and for me that has been enough confidence that my battery is not in a degrading trend (so far). There are a few Accubattery haters out there but it's been a solid tool for me. Enough so to buy the Pro version. Good luck to you.
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Yeah, I disable that 80% charge alarm first thing. Accubattery is just a tool and it's just giving you an estimate so don't rely solely on it. I will say that after a few full charges it converges to one percentage value and for me that has been enough confidence that my battery is not in a degrading trend (so far). There are a few Accubattery haters out there but it's been a solid tool for me. Enough so to buy the Pro version. Good luck to you.
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Much appreciated! Yeah I think I'm going to be fine in regard to my battery. I mean it's brand new so there has been no usage of the battery until as of about three days ago. I'm super excited to have gotten this unbelievable deal I got on my 6p. Never in a million years was I expecting it either. I got in touch with this guy by chance. There was never any intent on getting a brand new Nexus 6p for 150 dollars but by the end of our conversation that's what he offered me. Just a very generous guy.

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