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Google Vs Apple

The greatest battle has begun
http://m.techcrunch.com/2012/08/17/...eeks-to-block-iphone-ipad-mac-imports-to-u-s/
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This is very interesting. I can't wait to see this drama.
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It is interesting but it should maybe be moved to android general/offtopic. The mods often dont like people talking about the unnamed fruit as it just causes flame wars

bubarub said:
This is very interesting. I can't wait to see this drama.
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Some more reading here : (http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...22c028-eabb-11e1-9ddc-340d5efb1e9c_story.html)

Good Article thanks for sharing.
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All this suing is just getting out of hand...

Kawirider1228 said:
All this suing is just getting out of hand...
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well you tell steve jobs that, he wanted to destory android after it stole multi touch,pinch to zoom and now the new shape, rectangle with curved edges, this makes me glad I don't have an iphone, don't know how customers can support apple and its anti competitive behaviour

Sue, sue, sue! It's the American way!
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Apple are charging an extra 100 bucks to have a stupid mainstream Apple on the back of the device. Why would i by an iPhone 4 when i could spend my money and buy an Android device with a quadcore and still have Money left to go out and get pi ssed for the month.
Android all the way. And every iPhone user just has it because of the supposed status of the device. Well I say screw that ill keep my android devices any day of the week over a stupid iPhone that only has 12 months of support
Again a fail apple. You are by law required to provide 24 months of support in the EU so no thanks
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apple sucks either way...

Ah.... my fellow android users. Finally, I'm no longer in a school filled with apple freaks. This is home
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Many thanks to all

I'm finally moving on to the Sony xperia z ultra. It's been an absolute pleasure, first learning from the masters and then passing on my dubious knowledge to the noobies.
It's fantastic how xda works. Advice to any newcomers... Read first then ask questions!
Cheers to all and hope to see you around
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was nice meeting you through this forum. Have fun with Sony m8
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Z ultra! Big phone for a big guy. Go have fun.
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Good luck.
Edited : It's bad to loose a good guy.
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I dont know u persoanlly, bt ur post shows xda culture, many have helped me bring my GNote out of coma... we all are proud being xda members.. seniors like u teach noobs like me to better use our gadgets..
Hv fun with ur new love from sony..
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Spyder, whatd ya end up paying for the 6833? I still can't get one stateside, even if I wanted it!

LxMxFxD said:
Spyder, whatd ya end up paying for the 6833? I still can't get one stateside, even if I wanted it!
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I paid £600 exactly in UK and it came with an hbh20 BT headset. Think there's a few more weeks til it's stateside, heard rumours about 11th October... They didn't officially announce it here at all, just turned up in stock on 11th and luckily I was keeping an eye out. Awesome phone, man, just awesome, hope you get yours soon, be good to have you on their forum.
The 6802 is available I think which is the 3g version.
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SpyderTracks said:
I paid £600 exactly in UK and it came with an hbh20 BT headset. Think there's a few more weeks til it's stateside, heard rumours about 11th October... They didn't officially announce it here at all, just turned up in stock on 11th and luckily I was keeping an eye out. Awesome phone, man, just awesome, hope you get yours soon, be good to have you on their forum.
The 6802 is available I think which is the 3g version.
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The 6833 is on ebay for $710 usd, but the listings state the lte wont work in the usa. Ill have to look into it more.
Still worried about portability of it.
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LxMxFxD said:
The 6833 is on ebay for $710 usd, but the listings state the lte wont work in the usa. Ill have to look into it more.
Still worried about portability of it.
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It will. It supports AT&T and T-Mobile's networks if I'm not mistaken. There's a discussion going on regarding this in the Ultra section (general). I'm on mobile, so links are a *****
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LxMxFxD said:
The 6833 is on ebay for $710 usd, but the listings state the lte wont work in the usa. Ill have to look into it more.
Still worried about portability of it.
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Portability is better than I expected... It fits fine in trouser pockets. Very nice phone. Best to see it up close as it is a shock first time seeing it.
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T-mobile Development

Why is it we get the last of all the ports..

I think it's because the devs have the att and Verizon variants atleast we get it they could say f**k us
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Realistically, probably because T-Mobile will probably have the smallest buy base. But, in the end it shouldn't be too much of a hindrance given how close the T-Mo variant is to both the AT&T version, and the international version. The roms will come no doubt. Just be patient.

TehJorge said:
Why is it we get the last of all the ports..
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At least your variant is released. Sprint is getting theirs Nov 8th.

I have faith, there are a lot of great devs using tmobile and I'm sure some will be here sooner or later.
Also we have a couple great devs providing some great rooms already.
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Patience young grasshopper
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Patience. /thread?
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He is looking for testers....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2484880
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bjc112 said:
He is looking for testers....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2484880
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Can't test what's not released :/

TehJorge said:
Can't test what's not released :/
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And you he won't release it until people actually test it.
If no one is willing to test it, there's no reason to continue development
Lack of interest = Lack of support

Vysin said:
And you he won't release it until people actually test it.
If no one is willing to test it, there's no reason to continue development
Lack of interest = Lack of support
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Wait. I've been waiting him the release the test ROM for it to pop up on the T-Mobile development area. Where is it?

I don't quite understand why T-Mobile hasn't been posted. The device tree is ready, but not posted. Really bums me out. If he'd post it, I'd build it myself.
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dw9906 said:
I don't quite understand why T-Mobile hasn't been posted. The device tree is ready, but not posted. Really bums me out. If he'd post it, I'd build it myself.
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Same man

Thank god I have Jump.

It's because everyone else is locked in 2 year contracts. It will take time before everyone realizes how much better it is to go with T-Mobile.. I just jumped ship from sprint a month before my contract ends.. SO WORTH IT!
I like how when/if I pay off my phone in 2 years, my bill will actually drop whatever my phone payments were.. With other 2 year contracts, you keep paying the same price even if you don't upgrade your phone.. Ohhh I could go on and rant about the other carriers, but yes more and more hopefully will go to T-Mobile and start making some roms here.

Change.org

Please people can u sign my petition so the Verizon Moto g can hopefully get a unlock boot loader. http://www.change.org/petitions/ver...tm_medium=email&utm_campaign=petition_created
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Signed. Hope it helps.

Takenover83 said:
Signed. Hope it helps.
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I appreciate it thanks
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Signed.

Verizon is not going to support unlocking the bootloader on a non developer device. I'm not sure the point of creating a petition.

Vote with your wallet - don't buy Verizon devices.
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bozzykid said:
Verizon is not going to support unlocking the bootloader on a non developer device. I'm not sure the point of creating a petition.
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The point is I'm trying to get them to do it.
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6th to sign
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raymond4 said:
The point is I'm trying to get them to do it.
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But they aren't going to do it exactly because there are people that want it unlocked. The petition is being directed to the wrong place.

When's the last time something like this worked?
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Why do you people buy Verizon devices in the first place?

Coverage. In the area I live Verizon is a must.
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Signed too.
Good luck bro!

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When's the last time something like this worked?
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I think it was around... never? Yep, that's it. When are people going to realise that online petitions aren't taken seriously? Only exception is if it's signed by millions and the media gives it publicity. Otherwise forget it.

All the replies arguing this does not work... Would of took less time to sign the petition.
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Takenover83 said:
All the replies arguing this does not work... Would of took less time to sign the petition.
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Honestly, I don't see the point. Verizon doesn't want an unlockable bootloader on their devices. There is nothing that can make that happen. They don't want to have to deal with the support issues. If you want a phone with a unlockable bootloader, don't buy a Verizon phone. It is not that complicated. A petition has no bearing on Verizon's decision. There isn't enough customers who really want to unlock their phone's bootloader to install a custom rom.

So good luck to all 17 of you!
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I find it amazing you can reply to this thread twice, with no intentions of helping out your fellow xda'er. Why did you even bother replying? It does not take much time to sign the petition. Less then it took you to reply twice, that's for sure.

There's really nothing amazing about two posts. The time wasted here can be matched evenly with, say, signing this junk.
Here's to being blissful time spenders!
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AwesomeTurtle said:
There's really nothing amazing about two posts. The time wasted here can be matched evenly with, say, signing this junk.
Here's to being blissful time spenders!
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Look if u don't want to sign it then keep it moving. I don't want this types of talk on this thread. If u sign it good I appreciate if not then go to another thread.
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Where is our MM

Didn't Samsung say February for marshmallow on our Note 4? Or was it March? Either way no update what so ever this month?

It was scheduled for this month.
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This mo? Don't think so. The note 5, international mind you, has only just started seeing it as of yesterday so I wouldn't expect ours until towards the end of the second quarter at least. Besides you'll see an rdf pop up 1st once they actually start working on it then many more rdf versions until a final release. I'm dropping this phone the day the new g5 drops anyway. It's just uneceptible the g4 has marshmallow since Christmas along with practicality every other manufacturer except Samsung. The g5 looks to be a killer device too. Hope they really sink Samsungs ship with it honestly. Especially after the update fiasco for the note 4 last year. Typical Samsung fashion though. Rant over.
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Well the g5 was released and I gotta say I'm disappointed. 5.3 in screen size? That'll just be hard to use coming from this.
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t4d73 said:
Well the g5 was released and I gotta say I'm disappointed. 5.3 in screen size? That'll just be hard to use coming from this.
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+1

The G5 is a two-lens modular multi-featured camera pretending to be a smart phone.
If I want a modular high-quality digital camera, I'll buy one with a couple lenses I can switch between.
I want a smart phone, and I'm happy if it has nice camera features.
Each to his/her own, though.

joaranna said:
It was scheduled for this month.
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Perhaps the release from Samsung was scheduled for this month - but Samsung releases to the carriers, at least in Sprint's case, and then the carrier does their thing with it until they deem it ready to release to their customers. Samsung doesn't set Sprint's schedule
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styles420 said:
Perhaps the release from Samsung was scheduled for this month - but Samsung releases to the carriers, at least in Sprint's case, and then the carrier does their thing with it until they deem it ready to release to their customers. Samsung doesn't set Sprint's schedule
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International version would probably get it 1st before anyone then if that goes ok then they would release it to the carriers. At least that's how it usually goes. I've been keeping a close eye on sammobile for that to happen so hopefully soon.
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t4d73 said:
International version would probably get it 1st before anyone then if that goes ok then they would release it to the carriers. At least that's how it usually goes. I've been keeping a close eye on sammobile for that to happen so hopefully soon.
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Not necessarily - just because Sprint releases later than the international carriers doesn't mean that they receive it later. It's generally bad practice to openly treat some of your customers as guinea pigs for the benefit of the others, so it's more likely that Samsung sends out its generic rom to all carriers at the same time and Sprint just takes longer to add their proprietary bloat. It's also likely that Sprint waits to announce the upcoming version for the same reason xda devs don't do ETAs - because too many people take "estimate" to mean "promise" and get upset when delays happen.
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styles420 said:
Not necessarily - just because Sprint releases later than the international carriers doesn't mean that they receive it later. It's generally bad practice to openly treat some of your customers as guinea pigs for the benefit of the others, so it's more likely that Samsung sends out its generic rom to all carriers at the same time and Sprint just takes longer to add their proprietary bloat. It's also likely that Sprint waits to announce the upcoming version for the same reason xda devs don't do ETAs - because too many people take "estimate" to mean "promise" and get upset when delays happen.
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Well let's hope that's the case then.
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t4d73 said:
Well let's hope that's the case then.
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It doesn't matter - either way brings us back to my original point, that Samsung's release dates are meaningless to us. We could get our update the next day, a year later, or never, with equal probability. The only useful deduction we can make from their release date is that we definitely *won't* see our update before that date, which really isn't very useful at all
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After Google release the coming beta version of Android, i think N, then start expecting MM for Note 4.
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anees02 said:
After Google release the coming beta version of Android, i think N, then start expecting MM for Note 4.
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You are pretty optimistic
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I don't want MM.
Annoying permissions popups? No thanks.
Doze? Don't need it. I set my phone down on a wireless charger. It doesn't drain slowly, it charges.
Maybe after 8 months or more when they iron out all the issues, I'll consider it. By then, I'll probably have a new phone.

I hope to get the s7 edge sometime soon

Already pre ordered
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Could you be referring to this???

freeza said:
Could you be referring to this???
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You da man!

Now we can close this thread stating, Freeza has our MM . Thanks Freeza

freeza said:
Could you be referring to this???
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How did you know ?