Please people can u sign my petition so the Verizon Moto g can hopefully get a unlock boot loader. http://www.change.org/petitions/ver...tm_medium=email&utm_campaign=petition_created
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Signed. Hope it helps.
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Signed. Hope it helps.
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I appreciate it thanks
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Signed.
Verizon is not going to support unlocking the bootloader on a non developer device. I'm not sure the point of creating a petition.
Vote with your wallet - don't buy Verizon devices.
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bozzykid said:
Verizon is not going to support unlocking the bootloader on a non developer device. I'm not sure the point of creating a petition.
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The point is I'm trying to get them to do it.
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6th to sign
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raymond4 said:
The point is I'm trying to get them to do it.
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But they aren't going to do it exactly because there are people that want it unlocked. The petition is being directed to the wrong place.
When's the last time something like this worked?
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Why do you people buy Verizon devices in the first place?
Coverage. In the area I live Verizon is a must.
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Signed too.
Good luck bro!
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When's the last time something like this worked?
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I think it was around... never? Yep, that's it. When are people going to realise that online petitions aren't taken seriously? Only exception is if it's signed by millions and the media gives it publicity. Otherwise forget it.
All the replies arguing this does not work... Would of took less time to sign the petition.
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Takenover83 said:
All the replies arguing this does not work... Would of took less time to sign the petition.
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Honestly, I don't see the point. Verizon doesn't want an unlockable bootloader on their devices. There is nothing that can make that happen. They don't want to have to deal with the support issues. If you want a phone with a unlockable bootloader, don't buy a Verizon phone. It is not that complicated. A petition has no bearing on Verizon's decision. There isn't enough customers who really want to unlock their phone's bootloader to install a custom rom.
So good luck to all 17 of you!
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I find it amazing you can reply to this thread twice, with no intentions of helping out your fellow xda'er. Why did you even bother replying? It does not take much time to sign the petition. Less then it took you to reply twice, that's for sure.
There's really nothing amazing about two posts. The time wasted here can be matched evenly with, say, signing this junk.
Here's to being blissful time spenders!
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AwesomeTurtle said:
There's really nothing amazing about two posts. The time wasted here can be matched evenly with, say, signing this junk.
Here's to being blissful time spenders!
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Look if u don't want to sign it then keep it moving. I don't want this types of talk on this thread. If u sign it good I appreciate if not then go to another thread.
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Related
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/21/motorola-ready-to-make-sweet-love-to-rom-devs-and-rooters/
Looks like future Motorola devices might be better off than the DroidX/2/Milestone.
If you are too lazy to read, Moto stated:
"We are working closely with our partners to offer a bootloader solution that will enable developers to use our devices as a development platform while still protecting our users' interests. More detailed information will follow as we get closer to availability."
Not sure how nobody has posted this yet...
EDIT: Looks like this was mentioned in this thread already. Anyway we'll see what happens.
They have posted it all over the internetz and the general consensus is that Moto will just keep locking the bootloaders.
We can always hope though...
Mortalys77 said:
They have posted it all over the internetz and the general consensus is that Moto will just keep locking the bootloaders.
We can always hope though...
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Moto did not have to come out and say this.
What is your reasoning that they will just continue to keep it locked if they outright say they aren't?
and in their statement, who would their "partners" be? The carriers?
Hmmmm interesting
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Yes you are right I know it has been posted many places. I was curious to hear the thoughts of people in this forum in particular some devs. I trust XDA forum opinion above others .
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sciulli999 said:
What is your reasoning that they will just continue to keep it locked if they outright say they aren't?
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Because they won't unlock it now, and this was just of a damage control thing.
They won't unlock the bootloader forbthis phone likely ever, but it is starting to look like they are going to work for their phones being development friendly judging by their recent response on facebook or twitter. I can't find it now, but they did state that they would like their phones to be more dev friendly
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Actually, the link is in the first post(OP). that is at least promising
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sciulli999 said:
Moto did not have to come out and say this.
What is your reasoning that they will just continue to keep it locked if they outright say they aren't?
and in their statement, who would their "partners" be? The carriers?
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They definitely had a reason to come out and say this. It was a direct response to: http://www.droid-life.com/2011/01/1...er-to-buy-elsewhere-if-they-want-custom-roms/
I don't get the feeling that their willing to unlock any of their current phones. Someone would've said something by now if they were really working with devs.
What's most likely is they will phones through google unlocked but not discounted by the cell companies.
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Protecting users? That line makes it sound like you would have to go out of your way to unlock the bootloaders. Either by giving up warranty rights beforehand, or buying a "development model", at unsubsidized pricing. Either way is reasonable, but as an average joe, I like warranties and cheap/er phones lol
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Well rumor mill is there will be an optional ota that will unlock bootloader. Your warrenty will be void BC it shows on your esn number.
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Well rumor mill is there will be an optional ota that will unlock bootloader. Your warrenty will be void BC it shows on your esn number.
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Wow, this would be very cool, where are you seeing rumors like this?
If it comes out as an OTA then I'll just wait for the devs to get it and break it apart so we can finally have an unlocked bootloader without having to SBF to get the OTA.
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Just a friend. Its an idea there tossing around you wont need to sbf as its optional and only unlocking bootloader which will show on your esn and void your warranty
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honestly I would take the loss of my manufacturer warranty as long as I still have assurian for lost or damaged I'm cool just give me an unlock option and I would stay with motorola
Im not sure if it voids your whole warrenty. I will have to get back on that as it seems this isn't the set plan yet.
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Im not sure if it voids your whole warrenty. I will have to get back on that as it seems this isn't the set plan yet.
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Where are you getting your information?
My neighbor is on the team that develops for moto
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Alot of you guys have a good point. However. Papi92 is a liar. Show some proof and ill give u the benefit of the doubt. Till then you are just gonna be a liar in my book
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ksizzle9 said:
Alot of you guys have a good point. However. Papi92 is a liar. Show some proof and ill give u the benefit of the doubt. Till then you are just gonna be a liar in my book
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Do not listen to this man! Look at his post count! "Posts: 666"
phandroid.com/2012/09/18/verizons-galaxy-note-2-to-have-a-locked-bootloader-were-not-surprised/
Dont thank/like/rep my posts or ill report you.
Yea and why can't I thank you
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it's still only a matter of time before its unlocked though, I mean look what happened with the s3
Someones here will unlock it, given enough time.
Bah thats what the awsome devs here are for
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My choices are: Sprint if it's a true world phone (not a la Photon Q)
Or AT& T
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Dont thank/like/rep my posts or ill report you.
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Great way to score your rating. I will report you.
All it takes to unlock the bootloader is an aboot that doesn't verify the signature of what's being flashed.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/15/htc-one-att-bootloader/
you guys think this is true?? I hope not!
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Was the one x unlockable on at&t? Nope... I imagine they will continue this trend. I mean... Why not.
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http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/15/htc-one-att-bootloader/
you guys think this is true?? I hope not!
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I think it's true... considering that HTC themselves said so...
If it is would it be a big deal? I don't know how HTC phones work really, I've modded a evo once but that's it. I've been a Sammy user for 3 years.
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If it is would it be a big deal? I don't know how HTC phones work really, I've modded a evo once but that's it. I've been a Sammy user for 3 years.
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Yup... Means no custom roms until someone finds an exploit.
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That sucks. How long did it take for the one x? Also how long would it take for the one?
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If I remember the AT&T one x had a bootloader unlock in a matter of weeks.
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If I remember the AT&T one x had a bootloader unlock in a matter of weeks.
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Well... A month the first time. Then they updated the firmware and that took about 5 months to crack... Still can't root the latest update... I'd be willing to bet we'll be waiting a long time. But hey, maybe this device will get popular.
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Does this mean anything for the tmo version, or does no mention of it mean that tmo's will be bootloader unlockable?
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Darn, I guess no more tethering to my tablet once I get my new phone??
maidguitar said:
Does this mean anything for the tmo version, or does no mention of it mean that tmo's will be bootloader unlockable?
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This question has been answered many times
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lol, looks like you guys got the ol' bait and switch
I am hoping I get mine early so I can use HTCDev to unlock it before that gets disabled. I am not optimistic about it though.
It might already be locked out if att is shipping it.
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This may mean hello to the s4... dang.
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It's still unlockable.
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Don't know why people are suprised by this. They locked every htc in recent history and also the Dev version would be completely irrelevant if you could unlock the AT&T version.
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mattman83 said:
Don't know why people are suprised by this. They locked every htc in recent history and also the Dev version would be completely irrelevant if you could unlock the AT&T version.
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Don't know why people are suprised by this. They locked every htc in recent history and also the Dev version would be completely irrelevant if you could unlock the AT&T version.
M.
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I'm surprised because I didn't know that. As a samsung user I don't pay much attention to htc.
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Now that the phone has been out for a weekend by AT&T, is there any definitive proof that the AT&T one can still unlock the bootloader via HTC dev post 4/19?
Has anyone attempted it? Or are people receiving retail units with the bootloader locked?
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I'll donate 10 as soon as at&t has KK
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mj0528 said:
I'll donate 10 as soon as at&t has KK
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+1
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There's already a bounty thread for this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2493862
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There's a big difference between root and unlocking the bootloader. Let's keep this on topic about donations.
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Rhiannon224 said:
There's already a bounty thread for this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2493862
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Thats for bootloader unlock. this is for root for 4.4
Rhiannon224 said:
There's already a bounty thread for this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2493862
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That's a bootloader unlock bounty. OP has a root exploit in mind.
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FeaR_x_KhAoS said:
jcase has a working root method but it requires time and its only fair if we can donate something to him as thanks for his hard work
At [email protected]
Il be donating 10$ next Wednesday seeing as im broke right now
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The link goes to a year old or older article. What is the purpose of the link?
Is this a bounty for something to come or a donation for something already developed but yet to be released?
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As much as you think it'd be good to donate--Jcase said in his Twitter he doesn't plan on publishing anything new for the MotoX. Kinda bummed out. I can't not have root.
Jcase's Tweet
Since the MotoX on VZW is the first carrier OTA of Kit Kat you guys are the test case. If you're not familiar with -dm verity you need to be.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/google-taking-aim-at-device-modders-in-android-4-4-kitkat/
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I thought jcase already had root on a 4.4 moto x a week ago or so.
Count me in for $20.
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I thought jcase already had root on a 4.4 moto x a week ago or so.
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i thought so too
https://twitter.com/bd7349/status/402919740597084160
@TeamAndIRC Is there a reason why you’ve decided not to publish a root exploit for KitKat on the Moto X?
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Justin Case @TeamAndIRC
@bd7349 time/energy/update frequency/money
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https://twitter.com/bd7349/status/402919740597084160
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yea, i saw that
there it is folks, to root or not is the driving force behind getting kit kat. If you are at&t ctrl freak has an awesome way to keep both. Kudos to him as it works great!!
My phone is finally getting delivered today...almost a week after i placed my order. I hope it doesnt come with 4.4 already loaded on it as it shipped last night. Want to root.
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yea, i saw that
there it is folks, to root or not is the driving force behind getting kit kat. If you are at&t ctrl freak has an awesome way to keep both. Kudos to him as it works great!!
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The at&t method won't work for vzw? Do you have a link?
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lowvolt1 said:
The at&t method won't work for vzw? Do you have a link?
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It's in the Dev section at the top or cost to it
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Well whatever the case is, @jcase along with any and all developers we should ALL contribute to the development (developers) of Android. If the man has figured out how to root kitkat and chooses to not release it without getting a bounty out of it, then that's up to him. None of us have any room to get upset about it. Put me down for $30 if you release it @jcase. Thanks for all you've done for us so far!!!
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I thought jcase already had root on a 4.4 moto x a week ago or so.
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Yup...
https://twitter.com/TeamAndIRC/status/398686965865779200
Too bad he won't be publishing it.
Hey guys, let's get a thread going for this. I have an idea of how we might be able to unlock the bootloader of this phone, but I'm not giving promises. First off, we need as much documentation for the chipset as possible (MSM8960), Snapdragon S4 Pro. Also, documentation relating to the boot process is welcomed. I am currently figuring out how the boot process on this phone works. What do you say guys? It should be a team effort to unlock this phone.
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What kind of information are you looking for?
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Anything that is related to the processor or boot sequence. I'm currently downloading the firmware to take a look at it.
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What would be relevant for the processor? If you give me some direction, I can help searching for info.
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Things such as this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1856327
Personally, I think you're on a wild goose chase or out for a snipe hunt, but best of luck anyway.
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Personally, I think you're on a wild goose chase or out for a snipe hunt, but best of luck anyway.
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Maybe you're just nuts (see what I did there) But anyways, I'm still looking at the boot sequence and how it works. I think we might be able to modify the bootloader exploit for the GS4 since the X and GS4 use aboot and with that we might be able to overwrite the function that checks the value of whether the bootloader is unlocked or not. The aboot partition is loaded into memory first during boot, then the kernel and ramdisk is loaded into memory after on another memory address, whether the kernel/ramdisk is custom or not. There is a custom header in the ramdisk/kernel header that tells it to write to a certain memory address. You can edit the custom header to write to the same address as aboot, overwriting aboot therefore returning the value needed to complete the boot with the custom kernel/ramdisk. I will still have to work out the smaller details but I hope this works
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Very large bounties out there if you succeed.
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kj2112 said:
Very large bounties out there if you succeed.
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I doubt I will haha, but thank you. Not in it for the money
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Good luck. I'm subscribing to this thread just in case.
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Subscribed. That would be awesome to see this even though I just bought a DE on swappa to replace my locked X.
Any luck ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1856327
This might help you
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Sorry I hadn't read through the entire forum anyways how's about this: http://blog.azimuthsecurity.com/2013/04/unlocking-motorola-bootloader.html?m=1
If you want to know more about moto bootloaders contact Dan Rosenberg.
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Any news on this?
Another idea would be if someone with a Dev edition moto x could check to see if any of the preloaded Verizon apps/services had root privileges. Then it would only be a matter of finding an exploit in the application itself instead of trying to look for one in the bootloader.
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mx828 said:
Another idea would be if someone with a Dev edition moto x could check to see if any of the preloaded Verizon apps/services had root privileges. Then it would only be a matter of finding an exploit in the application itself instead of trying to look for one in the bootloader.
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Obtaining root privileges has nothing to do with the bootloader.
I know but wouldn't gaining root make it easier to find an actual exploit?
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Personally, I'd be all over the $43 dollar unlock codes......while its still an option. Someone at Motorola is gonna get fired hard eventually. Lol
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Is it possible that this is Lenevo doing this?
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Is it possible that this is Lenevo doing this?
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I doubt that. Its Verizon and at&t that never wanted the phones unlocked. Lenovo wouldn't go against their wishes. Plus, Motorola is still Motorola.
The bright side for those who don't unlock now, is maybe they'll be allowed to unlock when the phone is no longer officially supported. At least then they can update through custom roms.
Then again, maybe not.....it is another incentive to get a new phone leaving them locked.
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