Does the Nexus 10 support the camera2 api? - Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Does the (updated) Nexus 10 support the camera2 api?
If not, is it possible to install a custom rom to enable camera2 support?
**Entirely optional background to the question**
I'm looking for a big screen tablet that can use the RAW develop feature of snapseed and the nexus 10 seems like the perfect option - if I could just confirm it actually supports this feature
Snapseed's FAQ states that this feature works on any device that can capture RAW/DNG images - and looking into it, this is only from supporting the camera2 api.
There are lists out there of phones that can capture DNGs, but I guess not many people take photos on tablets, so the information is scarce for them
Any help on this would be much appreciated - even if its to say that it'll never work on a Nexus 10
(If anyone knows of a 9/10 inch tablet this will work on and can recommend it, I would really appreciate that as well)
Thanks!

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Honor 7 mapillary app - camera issue, broken?

Hi!
I try to use the mapillary app on the new honor 7 64GB model to get good 20MP pictures while moving around (like google streetview, but free to use).
But the camera on the honor 7 does only allow 640x480 in the mapillary app and the shutter sound is not to be disabled.
If I use the camera app, it does make use of the 20 MP mode.
I tried the original Android 5.0 and the new Android 5.1.1 beta - all of them show the same error with mapillary.
Does anyone of you do have the same issues? Can anyone test it?
I tried with honor 6 - here it works fine, mapillary can make 13MP pictures, also on all other android mobiles I testes (HTC one, moto g2, Rebel,..).
Thank you,
echelon
Many apps are incompatible with Honor 7 and in some case not fully compatible, like you figured out, for Mapilliary
Hi !
Oh, all Apps I tried are running fine, just Mapillary had missed a feature to select the 20MP camera mode.
After a short debug session with mapillary devs, I can use the Huawei Honor 7 fine now. Just the issue of far to few gigs of storage in device is a issue, 64GB is not really much if you do a 5MB picture every second, and I need to use 2 sim cards.
For others: issues with mapillary and Honor 7 are: no infinity focus mode available, need to set to automatic. This forced mapillary into 640x480 mode.
Also the 20MP mode of Honor 7 is NOT 4:3, it is 322:243 (5152x3888), which is a problem for apps selecting only 4:3 modes, and biggest 4:3 mode in Honor 7 is somewhat 3264x2448 (8MP) only. So you need to be able to choose non 4x3 modes in your app.
echeloni2p

Google Camera2 API

Hello every one! Hope you're having a great day
I'm here because I need your help To make a long story short, until I can save enough to buy a new proper camera, I'm stuck with my P9 Lite, which cannot save pictures as RAW/DNG files. This feature is provided by Google's Camera2 API, which my phone doesn't have/support. Four questions:
1. Is it possible to install Camera2 API on my phone, through a custom ROM?
2. Is it possible to install a custom ROM without losing on the initial image quality provided by my phone's camera?
3. In theory, could this API be enabled by a future software update? Or does it only have to do with how the phone was originally conceived?
4. Even if I managed to get the API on my phone, would it be possible to make it fully supported, and would I be able to save RAW/DNG files even if my phone originally doesn't offer this option?
Thank you very much!
P.S: I've never thought of "flashing" a custom ROM on my phone, this issue is the only reason why I'm considering it. As you may have noticed by my way of explaining things, I'm a five year old when it comes to informatics, and I'd probably be the first in line to buy Smartphone Software For Dummies. As much as I admire how technical and specialised you can get about a science that goes way beyond my understanding abilities, if you can keep things slow and simple, as if you were talking to an actual five year old, I'd be very grateful
themadbuddha said:
Hello every one! Hope you're having a great day
I'm here because I need your help To make a long story short, until I can save enough to buy a new proper camera, I'm stuck with my P9 Lite, which cannot save pictures as RAW/DNG files. This feature is provided by Google's Camera2 API, which my phone doesn't have/support. Four questions:
1. Is it possible to install Camera2 API on my phone, through a custom ROM?
2. Is it possible to install a custom ROM without losing on the initial image quality provided by my phone's camera?
3. In theory, could this API be enabled by a future software update? Or does it only have to do with how the phone was originally conceived?
4. Even if I managed to get the API on my phone, would it be possible to make it fully supported, and would I be able to save RAW/DNG files even if my phone originally doesn't offer this option?
Thank you very much!
P.S: I've never thought of "flashing" a custom ROM on my phone, this issue is the only reason why I'm considering it. As you may have noticed by my way of explaining things, I'm a five year old when it comes to informatics, and I'd probably be the first in line to buy Smartphone Software For Dummies. As much as I admire how technical and specialised you can get about a science that goes way beyond my understanding abilities, if you can keep things slow and simple, as if you were talking to an actual five year old, I'd be very grateful
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Can't you just install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera on stock ROM? I think the camera2 api should be available.
Thank you for replying! The application supports Camera2 API, but if the API is not available on my phone in the first place, I don't think the application will work...According to my researches, the API is like, let's say, a camera: if your phone doesn't have a camera, you could install as many camera apps as you want, your phone still won't take any pictures...What I need is a way to add a camera to my phone - in our case, the API - so that I can start taking pictures - in our case, saving RAW/DNG files. Also, I might be wrong.
themadbuddha said:
Thank you for replying! The application supports Camera2 API, but if the API is not available on my phone in the first place, I don't think the application will work...According to my researches, the API is like, let's say, a camera: if your phone doesn't have a camera, you could install as many camera apps as you want, your phone still won't take any pictures...What I need is a way to add a camera to my phone - in our case, the API - so that I can start taking pictures - in our case, saving RAW/DNG files. Also, I might be wrong.
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So the app doesn't work? I can't test it cause I am not on stock.
Just tried open cam on stock rom and I can capture RAW dng files, so it seems like camera2 is supported try it out!
UPDATE: Enable "Use alternative flash method" in photo settings if it won't take pictures when camera2 is enabled.
Open camera is pretty buggy on this phone when shooting RAW. Try "Footej camera", seems to work better
yaa but for footej need to pay to have fully featured. I payed for this but for m there is no diference to open camera.
I didn't say that Footej is better than open camera. Just that open camera often bugs for me when using camera2 - eg nothing happens when pressing camera button.
Sry for reviving the thread, is there any way to increase max shutter speed in camera2 api? I'm really interested in shooting some raw stuff but apps like Opencamera or Adobe Lightroom won't allow me to set over 1 second shutter speed (apart from the built-in camera app that allows up to 8 secs, but without raw support...) so it's a pain in the butt if I want to take raw pictures at night.
Using the stock Marshmallow Emui
The Lightroom app has a built in camera which can shoot RAW, I tried it and it works flawlessly.
Camera API2 *IS* present on p9 lite and *DOES* work.
zgomot said:
The Lightroom app has a built in camera which can shoot RAW, I tried it and it works flawlessly.
Camera API2 *IS* present on p9 lite and *DOES* work.
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Yup it does, but shutter speed cannot be set over 1 second (see the screenshot), that means night photos end up being very noisy since I need to drastically increase iso. The default camera app allows much longer shutter time, that's why I'm wondering what's wrong
If it was possible to set it to like 10 secs in the Lightroom app, the camera would be damn great
Krastinov said:
Yup it does, but shutter speed cannot be set over 1 second (see the screenshot), that means night photos end up being very noisy since I need to drastically increase iso. The default camera app allows much longer shutter time, that's why I'm wondering what's wrong
If it was possible to set it to like 10 secs in the Lightroom app, the camera would be damn great
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Have you tried Camera FV5?
zgomot said:
Have you tried Camera FV5?
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Yea, but it says that this device doesn't support raw :|
Krastinov said:
Yea, but it says that this device doesn't support raw :|
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Is it the trial version?
zgomot said:
Is it the trial version?
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Full. Does it work for you?
Also I heard that official Nougat brings raw support to the built-in camera, can anyone verify that? I might wanna update in that case
Krastinov said:
Full. Does it work for you?
Also I heard that official Nougat brings raw support to the built-in camera, can anyone verify that? I might wanna update in that case
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I Know This Is Quite Old But In Case Someone Is Still Wondering;
I'm Using Stock Nougat Firmware On My P9 Lite And It Does Support Raw Format, But You Have To Root The Phone And Enable Raw/DNG Format In Some System Files

Question about RAW support for YOTAPHONE 2

I have question od someone have profile at 4pda to add latest API for camera. I wanna use raw supported apps like Manualna Camera.
Thanks for aby help.
I don't get how RAW format support is connected to having a 4pda profile. By the way, I tried using this guide and then checking with Camera Zoom FX, but haven't noticed anything. There are also some apps on Play Store that check if you have API2, you can try.
Tester this guide not helped persist.camera.HAL3.enabled=1 should have ' at have or not? Manual camera not showing support
what is the best camera app this phone should have?
Standard Android camera, A better Camera, Camera360, Camera2, Horizon, UCamera etc.

Camera2 API support level for manual controls in 3rd party camera apps

Hi!
As a dedicated camera phone, I would expect the ZF3 Zoom to have good support for the Camera2 API that gives camera app developers access to manual controls. Can anyone run a test with "Camera2 probe" and let me know what the hardware support level is? It will be one of four: Legacy (worst), Limited, Full or Level 3 (best). I do hope it's either Full or Level 3, otherwise this would be a great disappointment.
Cheers!
Celludroid said:
Hi!
As a dedicated camera phone, I would expect the ZF3 Zoom to have good support for the Camera2 API that gives camera app developers access to manual controls. Can anyone run a test with "Camera2 probe" and let me know what the hardware support level is? It will be one of four: Legacy (worst), Limited, Full or Level 3 (best). I do hope it's either Full or Level 3, otherwise this would be a great disappointment.
Cheers!
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Here.
Pender666 said:
Here.
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Thanks!
Celludroid said:
Thanks!
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What does that mean for custom camera apps in this phone?
rafa10pj said:
What does that mean for custom camera apps in this phone?
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By "custom" do you mean 3rd party camera apps or the native camera app of the phone? I'm mostly interested in pro video recording apps and as far as I can see they need 'Full' or 'Level 3' support to work at all (Filmic Pro) or have the pro mode with manual controls like shutter speed available (Lumio Cam for instance). I'm not sure how 'Limited' does affect most apps as I have only devices that have either 'Legacy' (which is the worst support level) or 'Full'/'Level 3' (best). Phone makers can integrate advanced manual controls in their native apps without relying (fully) on the Camera2 API because they manipulate the software on a deeper level but 3rd party devs need to rely on Camera2 API as far as I know.
Which are the best 3rd party camera apps to use? That's a new world for me.
Celludroid said:
By "custom" do you mean 3rd party camera apps or the native camera app of the phone? I'm mostly interested in pro video recording apps and as far as I can see they need 'Full' or 'Level 3' support to work at all (Filmic Pro) or have the pro mode with manual controls like shutter speed available (Lumio Cam for instance). I'm not sure how 'Limited' does affect most apps as I have only devices that have either 'Legacy' (which is the worst support level) or 'Full'/'Level 3' (best). Phone makers can integrate advanced manual controls in their native apps without relying (fully) on the Camera2 API because they manipulate the software on a deeper level but 3rd party devs need to rely on Camera2 API as far as I know.
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Not so deeper, rather their own APIs or just Qualcomm APIs (extended Camera1).

camera2 api

p10 plus doesn't seem to have full camera2 api at least till B177. Can anyone who's updated to Oreo confirm if there's any change in that case? Or any other updates considering camera app perhaps?
On stock Oreo (see blackball's thread in this forum) and the manual camera compatibility checker app from the play store shows this:
(Note 3rd party camera apps only use the 12mp colour sensor so the quality is not so good)
baddesthad said:
On stock Oreo (see blackball's thread in this forum) and the manual camera compatibility checker app from the play store shows this:
(Note 3rd party camera apps only use the 12mp colour sensor so the quality is not so good)
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Thanks! Manual camera compatibility checker shows the same for me (stock Android 7.0/EMUI 5.1) yet, I haven't managed to get manual shutter working on any 3rd party app when using video recording. I didn't check the camera2 api myself, someone had wrote about it mentioning that Huawei flagships (p9, p10 etc.) doesn't have full camera2 api or it's restricted for system app. Can someone confirm this?
I'm trying to solve this for video recording only, so it doesn't matter if 3rd party apps can't handle the monochrome sensor. I've purchased both Cinema FV-5 and ProShot and neither seem to work with manual video controls.
By the way, Huawei Developer center is updating their support for 3rd party development and on their web page seem to have dual camera abilities "coming soon". Does anyone have any idea what that could mean?

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