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I'm trying to buy an Android phone that would support AT&T's 3G in North America, but for some reason they all only support T-Mobile's 3G frequencies. What's up?
So pretty much every smartphone nowadays is quad-band, GSM 850/900/1800/1900, and works pretty much anywhere in the world.
Why don't phones also support international 3G frequencies: 850/1900 as well as 900, 1700 and 2100 Mhz?
That should be a rule in all modern devices
100% all communication in all the world!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quad-band#3G
if you look at the population in the various places
and add the extra cost it seems to currently offer
feature you request it would most likely
not be worth it for htc and other manufacturers
but maybe in time as first we had dualband phones then triband and now quadband 2g
of cause with 4g starting to take off some places maybe it will be absolute before
universal 3g chips get cheap enough
How do the current business travelers manage?
orb3000 said:
That should be a rule in all modern devices
100% all communication in all the world!
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The area lot of business people who travel all over the world. How do they manage data access? Do they carry more than one phone all the time?
but as I state the only large user groups of 850 3g is in america
like CDMA is also only supported there
it all comes down to if the inc in cost is enough to justify the inc in
revenue
business people from the rest of the world don't have those issues
people here have also been requesting htc phones which does both cmda and gsm
it' all about GREED!
do you know how many channels your radio or TV receives?
those HTC fools just discriminate against USA users! (my opinion)
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I would really like to know how much "more" its going to cost to make a quadband, and 5 band UMTS phone. . . . .
think only qualcomm can answer that question
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think only qualcomm can answer that question
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it doesnt matter how much! i'm sure qualcomm 1G snapdragon cpu is more expensive than 528mzh cpu, that doesnt stop toshiba or Acer from using it!
it' all about GREED!
htc wants to make it with the cheapst parts, and sell it at the highest price possible! (my opinion)
well yes
even if greed is a negative word for the general capitalism which drive all these company's
it's not like htc are the only ones on that ship :S
Quad band UMTS are rare indeed. Blackberry and Apple have them. Nokia has a quint band unit coming out in about 3 weeks, N8-00 (I have one on pre-order).
The Galaxy S Captivate is a tri band unit that will work in most of the world. It is missing the 900 MHz band. I can't recommend it because GPS is broken while awaiting a software patch and AT&T refuses to unlock the sim for 10 months. There is no known way to unlock the phone at the present time.
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it doesnt matter how much! i'm sure qualcomm 1G snapdragon cpu is more expensive than 528mzh cpu, that doesnt stop toshiba or Acer from using it!
it' all about GREED!
htc wants to make it with the cheapst parts, and sell it at the highest price possible! (my opinion)
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Don't be so hard on the manufacturers (please, note that HTC isn't the only phone manufacturer in the world...) AT&T only just started selling Android phones. Why would Android phone manufacturers make a phone that supports AT&T bands if AT&T won't support them in return? With the delays in so many phone shipments, I'm sure the companies don't need that much more business than they already have. Now that AT&T has decided to play ball, however, I'm sure there'll be a reciprocal increase in the number of Android phones with AT&T 3G bands
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Quad band UMTS are rare indeed. Blackberry and Apple have them. Nokia has a quint band unit coming out in about 3 weeks, N8-00 (I have one on pre-order).
The Galaxy S Captivate is a tri band unit that will work in most of the world. It is missing the 900 MHz band. I can't recommend it because GPS is broken while awaiting a software patch and AT&T refuses to unlock the sim for 10 months. There is no known way to unlock the phone at the present time.
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You can buy an unlock code for like $25 .
This is a bit of bad news that I was afraid of:
Before deciding if they want to buy the new handset, US customers should know that they might be having trouble with LTE connectivity. More exactly, the OnePlus X supports the following LTE bands: 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, and 8. This doesn't completely cover the LTE bands of AT&T (2, 4, 17) and T-Mobile (2, 4, 12) - these being the only major US carriers that you can use the OnePlus X on, since we're talking about a GSM device here.
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Source: phonearena.com
So, the bottom line is that AT&T users will have no access to band 17, and T-Mobile users no access to band 12.
Fortunately, bands 2 & 4 will be covered on both carriers.
Well, that's a deal breaker for me... off to look for another phone. Gotta be now one out of Oneplus 2, Oneplus One, Zenfone 2, Zenfone 2 Laser, etc.
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Well, that's a deal breaker for me... off to look for another phone. Gotta be now one out of Oneplus 2, Oneplus One, Zenfone 2, Zenfone 2 Laser, etc.
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Nexus 5X?
BTW, you better check out the other devices too:
The OnePlus One supports the following bands:
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz
WCDMA Bands: 1/2/4/5/8
LTE Bands: 1/3/4/7/17/38/40
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OnePlus 2
Network:
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
North America model
WCDMA: Bands 1/2/4/5/8
FDD-LTE: Bands 1/2/4/5/7/8/12/17
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Source: OnePlus.net
And it looks like they won't be fixing it either:
In case you were holding out hope the Chinese startup manufacturer would perhaps somehow fix the “glitch” with a miraculous software update, or launch a separate GSM unlocked version tailor-made for AT&T and T-Mobile’s LTE networks, OnePlus crushed everyone’s dreams by confirming “the bands listed on the spec sheet are correct” and “we have no plans for adding more bands right now.”
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I don't understand their logic. Sell it in the US, but don't allow full LTE functionality on the only two carriers it will work with.
I might be moving on to a Nexus 5X.
This was a major mistake.
I was looking forward to rocking this on MPCS.
Got to stay with my MotoG3 (which is not a problem).
Is this software related? Is it possible to add the missing band?
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Maybe the cellular antenna could be modified with RadioComm or QPST or something similar. Obviously we won't know for sure until someone tries.
Definitely not good news....fortunately my area covers ATT band 2 most of the time. I think It is still worth getting the phone with this price point even if it is on 3G.
T-Mobile won't allow band 12 unless it's certified for VoLTE. That's what they did to Motorola over the 3td gen Moto G and I think the newer X as well.
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Wow this seems crazy,just when I found the phone to replace my aging moto x 2013. Band 17 is what's in my neighborhood. Not good!
Any recommendations for a 5" or smaller comparable cell?
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Wow this seems crazy,just when I found the phone to replace my aging moto x 2013. Band 17 is what's in my neighborhood. Not good!
Any recommendations for a 5" or smaller comparable cell?
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Xperia z3 compact is still really good. The z5 is out but a bit expensive.
Hikikomori-Otaku said:
Maybe the cellular antenna could be modified with RadioComm or QPST or something similar. Obviously we won't know for sure until someone tries.
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I'm gonna attempt doing this when I get my hands on one. I recall someone having "some" success with the original One Pus, and I have a pretty good theory on how to get past the VoLTE Certification too. I'm currently saving up for one so stay tuned
Thanks giving the z5 a look. It's just too bad about the X band omissions
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I'm gonna attempt doing this when I get my hands on one. I recall someone having "some" success with the original One Pus, and I have a pretty good theory on how to get past the VoLTE Certification too. I'm currently saving up for one so stay tuned
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If my searching is accurate, you're referring to this thread. Looks promising. but there's still the possibility for hardware being the limiting factor and not software.
mario24601 said:
Wow this seems crazy,just when I found the phone to replace my aging moto x 2013. Band 17 is what's in my neighborhood. Not good!
Any recommendations for a 5" or smaller comparable cell?
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I went back to a Moto X 2014. 5.2" screen and about the same size as the Oneplus X. Plus marshmallow update is imminent.
Pretty direct article from the Verge on this topic and it's not good:
http://www.theverge.com/2015/11/12/9725208/oneplus-x-lte-att-tmobile-us
In my experience, using the OnePlus X on AT&T in New York City and surrounding areas for the past week, I was unable to keep an LTE signal for more than just a couple of minutes. Most of the time the OnePlus X was stuck on AT&T's HSPA network, which is much slower in both uploads and downloads than LTE. All of these issues also apply to the MVNOs that use AT&T's LTE network, such as StraightTalk or Tracfone.
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Thanks for info. Such a shame! I'm still torn on what to replace my aged 2013 moto x.
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Crippling lte like this is a MASSIVE FAIL. Sorry, but you would have to be really dumb to buy this phone... I would much rather have features that I actually need like lte, nfc, fingerprint reader, a good camera with ois, no display gap etc.. over a glass back(that doubles your chance of damage) and an aluminum border. 2014 moto x/g, g2, s5 are all better options for under 300...
Bad news regarding AT&T and TMobile. Any news about Verizon or Sprint or other carriers in the US? Does this phone work on all of their LTE bands?
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Bad news regarding AT&T and TMobile. Any news about Verizon or Sprint or other carriers in the US? Does this phone work on all of their LTE bands?
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Verizon and Sprint are CDMA carriers.
Shouldn't it be possible to unlock additional LTE bands using the method for the OPO?
So I've been looking through the V10 Android Development threads and wondering what it's been like on XDA with the V10 in terms of Dev support/ROMs/ etc. I've asked over there for feedback. Doesn't look like there's been much interest in the V10 phone from Devs? Is there a reason why? Locked bootloader? No "sources" released? Is there a CM ROM available anywhere?
Reason I ask is because I'm seriously considering getting a V20 which looks like a great phone and I've always had Nexus phones in the past. Currently rocking a Nexus 5 which I still love. The V20 looks to me almost like a larger more modern and advanced Nexus 5 (both made by LG). The G5 I saw in a phone shop and it really didn't appeal to me (build quality seemed poor). What's the likelihood the V20 will get decent Dev support? Is there anything that will make it more likely?
What specifically was wrong with the G5 build? My wife has the phone and we both think its pretty nice. At least as good as the Galaxy it replaced and probably a bit nicer.
I'm also interested in your original question. How much support will this phone get and will the boat loader enforce secure boot?
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v10 was abandoned in short order after the bootlooping SNAFU.
This phone is starting life too expensive, unique snowflake hardware SKUs for every US carrier, And more than likely a locked bootloader (hopefully it can be unlocked). All those combined are a development death sentence. Assume no development, and be happy if there is any. Combined they make people who can develop firmware not even want to bother.
Remember the v20 has been on sale in Korea for a month now. How many buyers/users even post on XDA about it? Basically none AFAIK. There should already be a development charge, and maybe a root worked out or at least actively being tested. And there isn't any, not that has been made public.
lol dude we get it. every post of yours is the phone is too expensive and there's carrier versions of it... like every. other. phone. if you're so upset by price and carrier versions, why are you looming around these forums? go buy a 300 dollar phone and stop trying to sell everyone else on your opinion.
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v10 was abandoned in short order after the bootlooping SNAFU.
This phone is starting life too expensive, unique snowflake hardware SKUs for every US carrier, And more than likely a locked bootloader (hopefully it can be unlocked). All those combined are a development death sentence. Assume no development, and be happy if there is any. Combined they make people who can develop firmware not even want to bother.
Remember the v20 has been on sale in Korea for a month now. How many buyers/users even post on XDA about it? Basically none AFAIK. There should already be a development charge, and maybe a root worked out or at least actively being tested. And there isn't any, not that has been made public.
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Considering there is an unlocked US model that seems will work for all carriers, I would think that would be the one that gets development and is quite conducive to it.
No development is getting slowed down because a phone is $800. That's the new norm if you want this high quality of a phone. Pixel will get tons of development, Note 7 was actually going really well despite the $864 price, and many others will too. The fact that it's LG and people overlook the brand continually will be the primary reason for lack of development, if that's the case.
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Considering there is an unlocked US model that seems will work for all carriers, I would think that would be the one that gets development and is quite conducive to it.
No development is getting slowed down because a phone is $800. That's the new norm if you want this high quality of a phone. Pixel will get tons of development, Note 7 was actually going really well despite the $864 price, and many others will too. The fact that it's LG and people overlook the brand continually will be the primary reason for lack of development, if that's the case.
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Say what?
The unlocked version WILL NOT WORK on Sprint at all (the model # and IMEI range will be completely wrong to pass their whitelist)...and unless you have an already active SIM, your new VZW SIM will not activate as the model number is wrong and your account will show "unauthorised device". This of course sets aside the problems of radio bands that are missing or wrong for your specific carrier. So at best you'll have poor service if any depending on where you are and the tower deployments in the areas you travel. Also we don't know how updates will be handled on the unlocked device--take for example recent Nexus devices that got carrier fed updates rather than direct from Google (although that at least was an option if you ADB'd factory images) Every carrier is a unique SKU with unique firmware. You may never get updates even from LG (it is a serious possibility and risk).
I hope you have lots of cash hoarded when your $800 gamble, that it will work on all carriers, screws you over
The ZTE Axon 7 could be a much better device with much more development potential that is 50% the frickin price. "$800 the new normal" indeed. Buy an iPhone 7 for less cash, not an iPhone wannabe with less long-range OS support and let's be honest worse standby battery life. Because yea let's be honest, in 12-18 months LG will quit updating the device while in 3 years the iPhone7 will probably still be getting OS updates.
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lol dude we get it. every post of yours is the phone is too expensive and there's carrier versions of it... like every. other. phone. if you're so upset by price and carrier versions, why are you looming around these forums? go buy a 300 dollar phone and stop trying to sell everyone else on your opinion.
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Because folks ask questions...and get tremendously wrong answers. Like "the unlocked version that will work on all carriers". Echo chambers benefit no one. Until you see and know what having a unified hardware platform (like Nexus) does to accelerate development you don't get how screwed over you are by unique snowflake SKUs.
I too was excited for the v20, but LG fumbled the ball. in 3 months when the price comes down from the early-adopter surcharge (hopefully) I'll think about getting one. Depending on what I see.
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Say what?
The unlocked version WILL NOT WORK on Sprint at all (the model # and IMEI range will be completely wrong to pass their whitelist)...and unless you have an already active SIM, your new VZW SIM will not activate as the model number is wrong and your account will show "unauthorised device". This of course sets aside the problems of radio bands that are missing or wrong for your specific carrier. So at best you'll have poor service if any depending on where you are and the tower deployments in the areas you travel. Also we don't know how updates will be handled on the unlocked device--take for example recent Nexus devices that got carrier fed updates rather than direct from Google (although that at least was an option if you ADB'd factory images) Every carrier is a unique SKU with unique firmware. You may never get updates even from LG (it is a serious possibility and risk).
I hope you have lots of cash hoarded when your $800 gamble, that it will work on all carriers, screws you over
The ZTE Axon 7 could be a much better device with much more development potential that is 50% the frickin price. "$800 the new normal" indeed. Buy an iPhone 7 for less cash, not an iPhone wannabe with less long-range OS support and let's be honest worse standby battery life. Because yea let's be honest, in 12-18 months LG will quit updating the device while in 3 years the iPhone7 will probably still be getting OS updates.
Because folks ask questions...and get tremendously wrong answers. Like "the unlocked version that will work on all carriers". Echo chambers benefit no one.
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Um, the unlocked version has all the Verizon bands and is completely compatible with all carriers from everything I have read.
The iPhone 7 is not a valid comparison at all. Different type of phone. iPhone 7+ model with more than 32GB of storage... That'll set you back over $800, like these other phones.
You're clearly an Apple lover so I'm not going to bother continuing to argue. LG V20 >>>>>> iPhone 7 that it's absurd to even compare, for me. I'd be really unhappy with that iPhone because it still lacks most qualities I desire in a phone. To each their own.
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Um, the unlocked version has all the Verizon bands and is completely compatible with all carriers from everything I have read.
The iPhone 7 is not a valid comparison at all. Different type of phone. iPhone 7+ model with more than 32GB of storage... That'll set you back over $800, like these other phones.
You're clearly an Apple lover so I'm not going to bother continuing to argue. LG V20 >>>>>> iPhone 7 that it's absurd to even compare, for me. I'd be really unhappy with that iPhone because it still lacks most qualities I desire in a phone. To each their own.
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Then you clearly need to read more, not repeat flat out wrong info. The unlocked version is missing IIRC 1 Verizon CDMA 3G band (of 3), it is missing IIRC at least 1 WCDMA bands (out of 2 or 3), and it is missing IIRC 2+ LTE bands (Of 6 or 7 OTTOMH). The FCC filings showing that are available online. The same way that the unlocked version is similarly missing Spring CDMA/WCDMA/LTE bands. The radio support IS NOT THE SAME between VS995 and US996 and S997. It is NOT "completely compatible"-it is only sort of compatible....presuming it gets past carrier whitelisting of the IMEI and model number which on Sprint it 100% WILL NOT DO, and on Verizon it probably will presuming you already have a working SIM....then you have other problems to worry about (radio band support and updates).
See:
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...n_id=qbzdcULnrRZWOUdXGtJlew==&fcc_id=ZNFVS995
I'm not an Apple lover at all. I'm fed up with Android OEM shortsighted foolishness.
The unlocked version also doesn't have AT&T's bands 29 & 30 and T-Mobile's Band 66. Personally, I plan to get the AT&T V20. I don't mind the (expected) lack of updates so much as long the current version doesn't have glaring bugs. For AT&T you also need a branded device for VoLTE.
I currently have the Nexus 5 and Google left it with major bugs for a few months (one of them was broken car Bluetooth). So my experience with Google wasn't that great. The Pixel devices look like bad iPhone and Galaxy copies.
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Then you clearly need to read more, not repeat flat out wrong info. The unlocked version is missing IIRC 1 Verizon CDMA 3G band (of 3), it is missing IIRC at least 1 WCDMA bands (out of 2 or 3), and it is missing IIRC 2+ LTE bands (Of 6 or 7 OTTOMH). The FCC filings showing that are available online. The same way that the unlocked version is similarly missing Spring CDMA/WCDMA/LTE bands. The radio support IS NOT THE SAME between VS995 and US996 and S997. It is NOT "completely compatible"-it is only sort of compatible....presuming it gets past carrier whitelisting of the IMEI and model number which on Sprint it 100% WILL NOT DO, and on Verizon it probably will presuming you already have a working SIM....then you have other problems to worry about (radio band support and updates).
See:
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...n_id=qbzdcULnrRZWOUdXGtJlew==&fcc_id=ZNFVS995
I'm not an Apple lover at all. I'm fed up with Android OEM shortsighted foolishness.
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Interesting. I'll look into it more.
I honestly don't care about development anyway - I left my Note 5 alone and loved it. I'm planning to do the same with the V20, but I do hope there is some development eventually just for fun.
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Interesting. I'll look into it more.
I honestly don't care about development anyway - I left my Note 5 alone and loved it. I'm planning to do the same with the V20, but I do hope there is some development eventually just for fun.
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The development is what I find cool. It is why I keep ending up being a tester for ROM teams (did it on Note 2, and still on Nexus 6)....but Android generally is getting really f'ing annoying on some of this crap. SafetyNet for example isn't just a framework for AndroidPay and stopping you from using your phone from paying for a burger due to Xposed, corporate email servers are now using it....so if you modify your firmware in any unauthorised way your employer may well not let your phone talk to your work email servers anymore (one of mi amigos on Team Twisted has this problem-nothing we can do). Google seems to be wanting to go iron-fisted in security and sacrificing FOSS development for "security".
There was a post on r/Android tonight outlining some of the more obscure technical problems, and outright annoyances for developers as well in the current Android landscape generally: https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/56qr4z/why_i_am_giving_up_on_android/
FWIW....he mentions specifically kernel 3.18; that kernel is not only used by the upcoming Pixel but according to the posted v20 system dump, a few subforums down, is the kernel v20 is going to ship with as well. When that OP is speaking about shipping a brand new device in Q4 2016 with a 2-year-old+ kernel ceasing upstream patching in 2-3 months as being insanity.....he's not just talking Pixel, he's also talking v20.
I wouldn't borderline rant on it unless the device had a ton of potential...which v20 especially does, and seeing LG squander it with shortsighted planned obsolescence is frustrating.
Personally I am okay with not too many roms. All I need is root for Viper and a few other apps.
I really think that I'll get this phone to replace my G4. I had to come to terms that the bootloader will never be unlocked on all models except T-Mobile and certain international models. I've also accepted that there will be absolutely zero dev support.
Don't fault me for being pessimistic. Being optimistic with the possibility of Dev support and observing how the G4, G5 and V10 turned out is plain foolish.
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Then you clearly need to read more, not repeat flat out wrong info. The unlocked version is missing IIRC 1 Verizon CDMA 3G band (of 3), it is missing IIRC at least 1 WCDMA bands (out of 2 or 3), and it is missing IIRC 2+ LTE bands (Of 6 or 7 OTTOMH). The FCC filings showing that are available online. The same way that the unlocked version is similarly missing Spring CDMA/WCDMA/LTE bands. The radio support IS NOT THE SAME between VS995 and US996 and S997. It is NOT "completely compatible"-it is only sort of compatible....presuming it gets past carrier whitelisting of the IMEI and model number which on Sprint it 100% WILL NOT DO, and on Verizon it probably will presuming you already have a working SIM....then you have other problems to worry about (radio band support and updates).
See:
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...n_id=qbzdcULnrRZWOUdXGtJlew==&fcc_id=ZNFVS995
I'm not an Apple lover at all. I'm fed up with Android OEM shortsighted foolishness.
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Hmm here is a comparison of frequencies between the VS995 and the US996. Seems the US996 covers all the frequencies of the VS995 and some:
This is according to frequencycheck.com.
Frequency Band LG VS995 V20 XLTE LG US996 V20 LTE-A
GSM 850 Yes Yes
GSM 900 (E-GSM) Yes Yes
GSM 1800 (DCS) Yes Yes
GSM 1900 (PCS) Yes Yes
UMTS B1 (2100) Yes Yes
UMTS B2 (1900 PCS) Yes Yes
UMTS B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1) No Yes
UMTS B5 (850) Yes Yes
UMTS B8 (900 GSM) Yes Yes
LTE B2 (1900 PCS) Yes Yes
LTE B3 (1800 +) Yes Yes
LTE B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1) Yes Yes
LTE B5 (850) Yes Yes
LTE B7 (2600) Yes Yes
LTE B12 (700 ac) No Yes
LTE B13 (700 c) Yes Yes
LTE B17 (700 bc) No Yes
LTE B20 (800 DD) Yes Yes
LTE B25 (1900 +) No Yes
CDMA BC0 (800) Yes Yes
CDMA BC1 (1900 PCS) Yes Yes
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Hmm here is a comparison of frequencies between the VS995 and the US996. Seems the US996 covers all the frequencies of the VS995 and some:
This is according to frequencycheck.com.
Frequency Band LG VS995 V20 XLTE LG US996 V20 LTE-A
GSM 850 Yes Yes
GSM 900 (E-GSM) Yes Yes
GSM 1800 (DCS) Yes Yes
GSM 1900 (PCS) Yes Yes
UMTS B1 (2100) Yes Yes
UMTS B2 (1900 PCS) Yes Yes
UMTS B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1) No Yes
UMTS B5 (850) Yes Yes
UMTS B8 (900 GSM) Yes Yes
LTE B2 (1900 PCS) Yes Yes
LTE B3 (1800 +) Yes Yes
LTE B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1) Yes Yes
LTE B5 (850) Yes Yes
LTE B7 (2600) Yes Yes
LTE B12 (700 ac) No Yes
LTE B13 (700 c) Yes Yes
LTE B17 (700 bc) No Yes
LTE B20 (800 DD) Yes Yes
LTE B25 (1900 +) No Yes
CDMA BC0 (800) Yes Yes
CDMA BC1 (1900 PCS) Yes Yes
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Their listing for the VS995 is incorrect/incomplete compared to what the LG Electronics sent to the FCC and has on file. Read and compare, some of their entries are wrong (VS995 does indeed have Band 25), some like Band 66 are left out or missing (VS995 has that too). WCDMA is either seemingly absent although maybe they call that "UTMS". CDMA support is also flawed (should be 850/1900 for VS995 not 800/1900). I don't have easy to call up numbers for US996 ATM, but one way or another-their band support table is incorrect.
https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=3102983
https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=3102984
The phones are not radio band identical.
Yes the US996 is compatible with Verizon. I will have it on their network within 30 minutes of unpacking it from the box.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...n_id=qbzdcULnrRZWOUdXGtJlew==&fcc_id=ZNFUS996
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Yes the US996 is compatible with Verizon. I will have it on their network within 30 minuets of unpacking it from the box.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...n_id=qbzdcULnrRZWOUdXGtJlew==&fcc_id=ZNFUS996
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Please report back once you have it working. I'm very interested in doing this too. I'd love to not get stuck with the bloat.
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There is ZERO chance of it ever happening.. Avoid LG like a plague..
thanks for your expert opinion. nobody will take it seriously, but thanks!
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There is ZERO chance of it ever happening.. Avoid LG like a plague..
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Actually, devs that tried supporting Note 7 are now interested in developing for the V20 from the online polls since the note 7 has been officially canceled
As you might know, the Mi 6 was announced today. The specs look great for the price (see http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/new-product/mobile-phone/xiaomi-mi6-news-release-date-price-features-specifications-3653263/) and I thought I finally found the phone I really wanted.
But then the old story hit me again. No support for LTE band 20. As I live in Germany this means no matter what provider I have, I will be affected with less LTE coverage.
So I created this thread to gather any news that involve the possibility and efforts of unlocking the LTE band 20 on the Mi 6.
I hope there are maybe similarities with the ongoing efforts of unlocking the bands of the Mi 5 (http://en.miui.com/thread-242834-1-1.html or here https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5/how-to/progress-trying-to-unlock-bands-t3337476).
When the Mi 6 is shipped, I hope this will get some attention and we may find a way to unlock it together. :fingers-crossed:
I have the Mi Note Pro and I never spotted anyone succeeding in unlocking band 20.
I live in France and band 20 is one of the 3 main bands but I never suffered any need for band 20. I even had a Sony Z5 premium which had all French bands and I had to switch to 3g because it wouldn't receive well when I am in bed.
Depending on your carrier if you have just another band and live in a city, not having band 20 is not a deal breaker in my humble opinion.
If you really need it I wouldn't wait for sure for a way to unlock band 20.
Mi6 can work with AT&T network?
t.kuschan said:
As you might know, the Mi 6 was announced today. The specs look great for the price (see http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/new-product/mobile-phone/xiaomi-mi6-news-release-date-price-features-specifications-3653263/) and I thought I finally found the phone I really wanted.
But then the old story hit me again. No support for LTE band 20. As I live in Germany this means no matter what provider I have, I will be affected with less LTE coverage.
So I created this thread to gather any news that involve the possibility and efforts of unlocking the LTE band 20 on the Mi 6.
I hope there are maybe similarities with the ongoing efforts of unlocking the bands of the Mi 5 (http://en.miui.com/thread-242834-1-1.html or here https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5/how-to/progress-trying-to-unlock-bands-t3337476).
When the Mi 6 is shipped, I hope this will get some attention and we may find a way to unlock it together. :fingers-crossed:
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hi. can you add to the title of this thread the bands 4 and 28, for australia and south america?
kevinx89 said:
mi6 can work with at&t network?
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tdd-lte (b38/b39/b40/b41) fdd-lte (b1/b3/b5/b7/b8) td-scdma (b34/b39) wcdma (b1/b2/b5/b8) cdma（bc0 ） gsm / cdma 1x (b2/b3/b5/b8/bc0 )
EMJI79 said:
I have the Mi Note Pro and I never spotted anyone succeeding in unlocking band 20.
I live in France and band 20 is one of the 3 main bands but I never suffered any need for band 20. I even had a Sony Z5 premium which had all French bands and I had to switch to 3g because it wouldn't receive well when I am in bed.
Depending on your carrier if you have just another band and live in a city, not having band 20 is not a deal breaker in my humble opinion.
If you really need it I wouldn't wait for sure for a way to unlock band 20.
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Yes that is a valid point. As I live in Berlin I won't have any problems here. But since I travel around a lot for work countryside coverage would be a good benefit. But as you mentioned band 20 won't stop me from getting the Mi6.
This thread is just if anybody comes up with a good idea on how this could be done. Just as a 'bonus'.
The most active in unlocking lte bands are people in the OnePlus forum as far as I know.
Why can't Xiaomi give us a US LTE phone. Damnit!!!
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Jooosty said:
Why can't Xiaomi give us a US LTE phone. Damnit!!!
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Because it needs to do a lot, such as patents, internal structure, and so on.
Maybe Xiaomi note3 will behave better.
Band 20 in mi5 CAN NOT be unlocked. It is hardware limited. Please read thread mi5, page 76.
You only need schematic diagram, then you can see.
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Because it needs to do a lot, such as patents, internal structure, and so on.
Maybe Xiaomi note3 will behave better.
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don't forget US carrier bloatware, and bootloader lock..
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LTE B4 is the real need for NorthAmerica users
jkyoho said:
LTE B4 is the real need for NorthAmerica users
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But Xiaomi is not ready to sale phones in North America now.
RBSonic said:
Band 20 in mi5 CAN NOT be unlocked. It is hardware limited. Please read thread mi5, page 76.
You only need schematic diagram, then you can see.
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Maybe Mi 6 will be different.
Rupurudu! said:
Maybe Mi 6 will be different.
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No, it's a "Chinese"phone,it isn't saling in some countries.
hbbxmjbb said:
No, it's a "Chinese"phone,it isn't saling in some countries.
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It depends on power amplifier and rf modules. In some case it can be unlocked with software or hardware changing.
If somebody find which power amplifier and rf modul are used in mi6, let me known, i tell you if unlock possible.
RBSonic said:
It depends on power amplifier and rf modules. In some case it can be unlocked with software or hardware changing.
If somebody find which power amplifier and rf modul are used in mi6, let me known, i tell you if unlock possible.
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I will buy one in June,I will do some testing.
Jooosty said:
Why can't Xiaomi give us a US LTE phone. Damnit!!!
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Because it's not meant to be sold in the US...
Hakim Farouk said:
Because it's not meant to be sold in the US...
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But still shouldn't the network setup be kept stock... I mean why waster resources on a freaking modem... When u can divert them to something else....
And if I am not wrong Qualcomm gives the chipset/modem with all the bands unlocked.. quite like apple .. hence making s truly global phone
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But still shouldn't the network setup be kept stock... I mean why waster resources on a freaking modem... When u can divert them to something else....
And if I am not wrong Qualcomm gives the chipset/modem with all the bands unlocked.. quite like apple .. hence making s truly global phone
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You could say the same for Oneplus's global and China variant. They must have their reasons. I'm sure everyone, let alone, Xiaomi, know that they don't benefit for locking the bands. So, there's no point speculating on why and rather to just accept the obvious that it was not for the US market or any other country that It's not being sold officially.
Is it possible to unlock LTE bands in the china version of the note 7 . My country uses 1900,2600 for LTE and I do not seem to get connected to those bands.
Is there any way I can unlock these bands .
Currently I am connection to lte band 41 and switching to h+ .
Good day
So I have tried to unlock lte bands using DFS Tools I was able access the bands to my surprise the bands were selected already . But for some strange reason I cannot see the same bands in network guru for instance DFS shows lte band 2 enables but network guru does not have this band as a lte band
I am not sure but I think it might be hardware restricted?
If I make any progress I will update I will try a custom rom
If it was that simple everyone would just buy chinese version as it is cheaper than global. It involves a LOT OF work, reverse engineering and just blind guesing. For now, it is impossible. There was some cases in older devices that got bands unlocked, but again, it was an immense amount of work and took many devs and a lot of time. Forget it
Plekst said:
If it was that simple everyone would just buy chinese version as it is cheaper than global. It involves a LOT OF work, reverse engineering and just blind guesing. For now, it is impossible. There was some cases in older devices that got bands unlocked, but again, it was an immense amount of work and took many devs and a lot of time. Forget it
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I believe that this is exactly what will happen. Since the Pro doesn't come in a global version and is practically the champion of the cheapest budget phones as of now. Only time will tell.
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I believe that this is exactly what will happen. Since the Pro doesn't come in a global version and is practically the champion of the cheapest budget phones as of now. Only time will tell.
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Pro isnt a budget phone. Its middle tier, 250euros is not budget, you can buy poco or something else
Plekst said:
Pro isnt a budget phone. Its middle tier, 250euros is not budget, you can buy poco or something else
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It's 180€ in India and I've even seen prices on AliExpress and such for as low as 167€
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It's 180€ in India and I've even seen prices on AliExpress and such for as low as 167€
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Lool, give me link for 167, i will buy it right now. Cheapest it ever was is like 220, currently its 230 on aliexpress
Plekst said:
Lool, give me link for 167, i will buy it right now. Cheapest it ever was is like 220, currently its 230 on aliexpress
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I must've confused it with the standard RN7 on AliExpress but in regards to the price in India, it's still 180€. You can pre-buy at flipkart.com.
Anyways it's still worth the price and I don't think you'll find any other phone as beautiful and packed with power as this one for the same price.
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I must've confused it with the standard RN7 on AliExpress but in regards to the price in India, it's still 180€. You can pre-buy at flipkart.com.
Anyways it's still worth the price and I don't think you'll find any other phone as beautiful and packed with power as this one for the same price.
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Well, india is not whole world. People outside india can only get it for 230, which is a lot of for device that doesnt support global bands. So i dont think many people gonna buy it. For 230 in europe you can get pocophone So not budget at all