Stupid question about charging. - X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I know this is a very stupid question, but I understand that the Moto X Pure comes with a turbo charger, is it ok if I charge my phone with a regular charger? I only have the original turbo charger and can't buy another one for now. So I leave the original at home.
I'm asking because I don't know if it can damage the battery.

Mauro.afa said:
I know this is a very stupid question, but I understand that the Moto X Pure comes with a turbo charger, is it ok if I charge my phone with a regular charger? I only have the original turbo charger and can't buy another one for now. So I leave the original at home.
I'm asking because I don't know if it can damage the battery.
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It is actually better for the battery to use a non-Turbo charger of sufficient quality and output, less heating and degradation... Using the Turbo charger all the time will shorten battery life longevity. I use a 1.8A charger from a BB Playbook, works great.
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Yes its completely fine.

Even more, I recommend to use the fast charger only in case of emergency! If you have time use a 5V 1A charger for a longer battery longevity.

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Charger Disappointment

Any one Disappointed with the charger they included with the Pure. The non removable cord just sucks and a poor choice in my opinion
I'm more disappointed at the size of the wall wart. They could have made more friendly to other power strip users.
razor237 said:
Any one Disappointed with the charger they included with the Pure. The non removable cord just sucks and a poor choice in my opinion
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Pretty sure they did that so you couldn't just stick any usb charging cord in their...it'd most likely fry it.
The disappointing part is the my other cords not working with Android auto. Luckily I have a nexus 6, and the cord with its charger works.
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brholt6 said:
Pretty sure they did that so you couldn't just stick any usb charging cord in their...it'd most likely fry it.
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I guess that could be a reason but highly doubt anything would be fried. Ive been using a nexus 6 turbo charger and before that i was using a note 4 charger to charge multiple android/apple devices without issue. This just limits what i can charge on a single charger now need a second lol
razor237 said:
I guess that could be a reason but highly doubt anything would be fried. Ive been using a nexus 6 turbo charger and before that i was using a note 4 charger to charge multiple android/apple devices without issue. This just limits what i can charge on a single charger now need a second lol
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If you plugged in a charging cord that can't handle the increased power it sure could fry the cord. I feel ya though...it would be nice if it were a USB cord.
I'm glad it looks different.... My son knows NOT to plug his HTC M7 into this charger.
I can see if this was someones first Android, the lack of a micro-USB for data would be frustrating, but I have about 5 of these in my desk drawer and throughout my house and office, so it doesn't bother me.
Also having a fixed cord means you don't pulg some 'slow' cable in and not get any benefits. Out my 8-10 micro USB cables, only 2-3 get a decent charge speed.
tele_jas said:
I'm glad it looks different.... My son knows NOT to plug his HTC M7 into this charger.
I can see if this was someones first Android, the lack of a micro-USB for data would be frustrating, but I have about 5 of these in my desk drawer and throughout my house and office, so it doesn't bother me.
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If a device that does not do Turbo Charging is connected, the charger should automatically adjust and charge it at regular speed. At least, that's what it is supposed to do. The Turbo Charger is supposed to be the single charger for all types.
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Darnell_Chat_TN said:
If a device that does not do Turbo Charging is connected, the charger should automatically adjust and charge it at regular speed. At least, that's what it is supposed to do. The Turbo Charger is supposed to be the single charger for all types.
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Good, because I know I'll find his phone on that charger some day
I still have my galaxy s6 nexus charger that is a fast charging and it seems to work fine with turbo charging
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I think the reason they made the cable fixed is because a lot of cheaper usb cables use very thin wire gauges. Since this charger puts out a lot of current at varying voltages, it's very possible for a thin cable to overheat easier and catch on fire. And my guess is, they didn't want to take any chances
How do we determine if turbo charger is ongoing? I mean are there any indication? Coz when I plug in the TurboCharger that comes with it, sometimes TurboPower Connected shows at the bottom of the screen, sometimes not. Then when I check it on the Status, it says Charging over USB, not Charging over AC? Could be that my unit is defective? perhaps the charger? or the battery?
DrearierJester1 said:
How do we determine if turbo charger is ongoing? I mean are there any indication? Coz when I plug in the TurboCharger that comes with it, sometimes TurboPower Connected shows at the bottom of the screen, sometimes not. Then when I check it on the Status, it says Charging over USB, not Charging over AC? Could be that my unit is defective? perhaps the charger? or the battery?
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I've got the same issue going on. My replacement from Amazon will be here Tuesday so I'll have time to mess with both and see if its the charger or what. Currently my turbocharging is hit or miss.
DrearierJester1 said:
How do we determine if turbo charger is ongoing? I mean are there any indication? Coz when I plug in the TurboCharger that comes with it, sometimes TurboPower Connected shows at the bottom of the screen, sometimes not. Then when I check it on the Status, it says Charging over USB, not Charging over AC? Could be that my unit is defective? perhaps the charger? or the battery?
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I have this issue sometimes to. So if I need to know if im charging at turbo I use an app from the app store to see if states I'm turbo Charging or not. In the Charging screen it will say "normal or Turbo"
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.ampere
DrearierJester1 said:
How do we determine if turbo charger is ongoing? I mean are there any indication? Coz when I plug in the TurboCharger that comes with it, sometimes TurboPower Connected shows at the bottom of the screen, sometimes not. Then when I check it on the Status, it says Charging over USB, not Charging over AC? Could be that my unit is defective? perhaps the charger? or the battery?
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You can use a USB voltage/current indicator device to see it directly. I use one that displays voltage and current simultaneously, it cost about $10 on Amazon.
The Qualcomm QC 2.0 (which Motorola terms "TurboPower) spec is 5, 9, 12, and 20 volts, with up to 2 amps plus at each voltage. The QC 2.0 chargers I've tested including the Motorola charger included with the XT1575, range up to 9V and about 2+ A at 9V, with the higher voltage/amperage when battery is discharged to a lower SoC.. Haven't seen 12V or 20V, I think those only come into play when battery is discharged to nearly zero SoC.
Agree the reason the included charger has cable attached may be to ensure adequate wire gage. Too-thin wire will increase voltage drop across cable thus lengthening charge time in higher power modes. But the design here uses higher voltage to keep current down around the same 2A max current of USB 2.0 chargers, so cable heat will not be a problem with any old USB cable.
I will attest to the benefit of QC 2.0. I thought it was a useless gimmick until I started using it. It does effectively compensate for mediocre battery capacity.
My "Turbo Charging" icon displays properly, but doesn't charge very quickly if connected to a cheap extension cord.
Plugged into the wall, the charging Stull doesn't impress me that much
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DrearierJester1 said:
How do we determine if turbo charger is ongoing? I mean are there any indication? Coz when I plug in the TurboCharger that comes with it, sometimes TurboPower Connected shows at the bottom of the screen, sometimes not. Then when I check it on the Status, it says Charging over USB, not Charging over AC? Could be that my unit is defective? perhaps the charger? or the battery?
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It's defective. Call moto they will replace it for free. Just have to send copy of purchase receipt. Had the same issue.
The charge rate depends on how discharged the battery is when connected to charge.
More discharged (lower SoC, State of Charge) will drive a higher charge rate.
As to the difference between this Motorola TurboPower (aka Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0), vs. other phones:
I've measured up to 1.4 amps at 5V nominal on other phones, that is about 9 watts charging power. That is max charge rate, with a very discharged battery. As the battery charges up closer to fully charged, the charge rate (power) is reduced. Total charging time from fully discharged to fully charged would be about 4-5 hours, give or take, for a typical cellphone battery.
For comparison, the QC 2.0 measurements I made with the MXPE: Up to 2.2 amps at 9V nominal with a phone battery discharged to about 40-50%. That works out to about 20 watts charging power. As with other Li-Ion battery charging systems, this also declines as the battery approaches fully charged. Total time to charge, from fully discharged to fully charged will be about 2-3 hours, give or take.
So the marketing claims about QC 2.0 are about right: A 75% improvement over conventional charging systems.
The biggest gains come when charging batteries discharged to lower SoC. If you are comparing charge rate/time of batteries discharged to only, say, 70-80%, you will not see as much of a difference with QC 2.0.
I'm not a QC 2.0 marketing shill, mind you. I pretty much ignored it, before buying the phone. But for this phone, QC 2.0 actually does a good job to compensate for the mediocre battery. I can run the battery down to 40-50%, put it on QC 2.0 charger in my car for my 30 minute commute, and it is charged to around 80+% when I arrive at my destination. There are a lot of QC 2.0 certified aftermarket chargers out there too, Qualcomm did a lot of work on the front end as part of bringing it to market. (Just make sure any AC charger is UL listed or equivalent, if you care about safety.
Caveats on cables: The cable does make a difference at higher charge rates. Thinner gage wire will impose a greater voltage drop at higher current, this will reduce power and thus increase charge time.
Typical USB cables are AWG 26-28. You can buy 20, 22, and 24 AWG USB cables. Some cables advertise heavier (22-24) gage wire for the power leads with standard (26-28) gage wire for the data leads. The aftermarket QC 2.0 AC chargers I bought listed their included cables as 20 gage.
Get the heavier gage if you want full QC 2.0 charging.
soufdallas said:
I still have my galaxy s6 nexus charger that is a fast charging and it seems to work fine with turbo charging
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Just to check did you use S6 original charger ? And does it charge same with the turbo power charger provided by moto?
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Using Samsung Fast Charger To Charge Phone?

So I my moto charger got destroyed by my dang dog and I'm using a Samsung Fast Charger that came with my wife's note 5. It just says "charging" and its still very slow. It's 2.0a at 5v I believe or 1.6a at 9 or 10v. Yet its still slow. Any recommendations? On marshmallow.
Can anyone help shed light on this?
nellycruzz said:
Can anyone help shed light on this?
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That's not a qc charger. Hence the slow charging. It's 5v only whereas quick chargers also do 9 and 12 volt.
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nellycruzz said:
So I my moto charger got destroyed by my dang dog and I'm using a Samsung Fast Charger that came with my wife's note 5. It just says "charging" and its still very slow. It's 2.0a at 5v I believe or 1.6a at 9 or 10v. Yet its still slow. Any recommendations? On marshmallow.
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I don't think the Samsung ones use quick charge 2.0. Even though the galaxy s6/note 5 can use quick charge 2.0 capable charger. I think they use a proprietary Samsung fast charge tech in their own chargers.
So it would charge your phone but at the regular 5v2a. I would recommend getting a quick charge 2.0 capable charger. I have a couple from tronsmart and they are great.
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Well I've used the Samsung charger and it says "5v @ 2.0 and then says 9v @1.6. I have it hooked up but its so very very slow. I'm getting 2% charge every 30 mins or so. I ran ampere and I'm getting 3.7V and its stuck on " charging via USB". Anyway to change that from USB to AC? THANK YOU guys for chiming in. I have 6 cords and 3 bricks, 2 Samsung and one of.
My note 4 chargers power charges my MXPE and fast charger.
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My s6 charger works great on my moto x style... In 15 minutes i get almost 25% battery!moreover the phone recognize it as turbopower...
Ok hooked up to Samsung charger from note 5. Anything look wrong?
nellycruzz said:
Ok hooked up to Samsung charger from note 5. Anything look wrong?
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It's showing 'usb charger', which should be very very slow...
you sure you are connected to a wall charger?
It should say 'AC Charger'
I have the power brick in the wall and cable running from it to the phone.
nellycruzz said:
I have the power brick in the wall and cable running from it to the phone.
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He means a proper fast charger will show AC charging. USB charging means slow.
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dottat said:
He means a proper fast charger will show AC charging. USB charging means slow.
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Well shouldn't the Samsung Fast Charger, charger the phone faster?
nellycruzz said:
Well shouldn't the Samsung Fast Charger, charger the phone faster?
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Not if it's the typical 5volt 2amp version. Couple that up with the fact the moto X pure is picky about what quick chargers even work with it period and you have a harder time finding one that works.
Start by reading this thread.. then get yourself a replacement that has been reported to work with this phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...oto-x-pure-quick-charge-2-0-woes-3rd-t3206718
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Couple that up with the fact the moto X pure is picky about what quick chargers even work with it period and you have a harder time finding one that works.
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For what it is worth, the Asus quick charger that came with my ZenFone2 charges the MXPE like a champ. Is there a better spot for me to share that information?
jaysus145 said:
For what it is worth, the Asus quick charger that came with my ZenFone2 charges the MXPE like a champ. Is there a better spot for me to share that information?
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The thread I linked above is where I found the two I ordered and just received.
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00QEX83LA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
I have the Aukey quick charger as my office spare, and it works quite well. Not as fast as the motorola turbo charger, but quite faster than regular 2A chargers.
Guys or ladies, got a new charger from Motorola and it charges "charging USB" and its slow as hell charging. Any ideas? Stock marshmallow.
I got a new Motorola fast charger sent to me but I plug it in and I get "charging over USB" and charging very slow. Why? Stock marshmallow.
nellycruzz said:
Guys or ladies, got a new charger from Motorola and it charges "charging USB" and its slow as hell charging. Any ideas? Stock marshmallow.
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If it isn't the Turbopower 25 like this one then that's your problem. The phone might not be getting enough voltage.
Link is dead but its this one

Fast charging

I recently bought an s7e. New but used from Craigslist. In all my excitement I didn't look inside the box and realized that the seller jipped me out of the cable and charger. Device works great. No worries there.
Main question is...what amperage does the original charger output? I'm using an aftermarket charger and cable. The output is 2.4amps. I have the fast charge option on but won't get any fast charge results. Is the original charger needed for the option to work?
Should I just get the induction charger?
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inkdaddy66 said:
I recently bought an s7e. New but used from Craigslist. In all my excitement I didn't look inside the box and realized that the seller jipped me out of the cable and charger. Device works great. No worries there.
Main question is...what amperage does the original charger output? I'm using an aftermarket charger and cable. The output is 2.4amps. I have the fast charge option on but won't get any fast charge results. Is the original charger needed for the option to work?
Should I just get the induction charger?
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I have a charge pad but it doesn't fast charge. its nice for over night tho....
I think you need to get the Sammy original plug charger for the fast charge.... its VERY nice... can get you up to working juice in like 15min... supper fast at the start then slows down, but after 15min or so you are good for many hours.
I had rapid charging on my nexus 6p. It was awesome. I just want it back for this device.
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You just need a QuickCharge 2.0 or higher compatible charger. Unlike standard chargers, QuickCharge chargers use multiple voltages. Something like this would be perfect:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019GQ6S2C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Turbo Charger

Anybody using turbo charger or quick charger with Moto g4 play?. I got charger which is very slow.
Which charger are you using guys?. Any battery problem with fast charging?
Indian?
nayan deka said:
Indian?
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Nope the device is from US
Sharath356 said:
Anybody using turbo charger or quick charger with Moto g4 play?. I got charger which is very slow.
Which charger are you using guys?. Any battery problem with fast charging?
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I use standard USB brick with 2A/10W capacity. Phone accepts ~1600mAh during primary stage which is reasonable given device specs. A full charge can usually be achieved in under 3 hours.
Davey126 said:
I use standard USB brick with 2A/10W capacity. Phone accepts ~1600mAh during primary stage which is reasonable given device specs. A full charge can usually be achieved in under 3 hours.
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Yeah some people got 10w charger. I am just wondering what if i use turbo charger. I spoke to customer care they said it will. I found same news on Reddit pages, they are getting good backup of 6hrs. Is that a turbo charger of yours?. If not what's difference in Amps between normal charger band turbo charger?
Sharath356 said:
Yeah some people got 10w charger. I am just wondering what if i use turbo charger. I spoke to customer care they said it will. I found same news on Reddit pages, they are getting good backup of 6hrs. Is that a turbo charger of yours?. If not what's difference in Amps between normal charger band turbo charger?
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Skip the overpriced turbo charger which will not yield better performance on this device. Fastest uptake is around 1600mAh which is well within reach of any reasonable 10W charger. A few higher end devices support Quick/Turbo charging (including the G4/G4 Plus) which allows the battery to briefly accept a higher charge rate for a quick 15 min boost (say from 60-80%). Otherwise they perform the same as standard chargers. Score one for the marketing department if you buy in for G4 Play which technically has the hardware to handle turbo charging; however, by all accounts (and my observations) it is not enabled by Motorola...likely due to the run-of-the-mill battery in this device.
https://www.motorola.com/us/products/turbopower
Davey126 said:
Skip the overpriced turbo charger which will not yield better performance on this device. Fastest uptake is around 1600mAh which is well within reach of any reasonable 10W charger. A few higher end devices support Quick/Turbo charging (including the G4/G4 Plus) which allows the battery to briefly accept a higher charge rate for a quick 15 min boost (say from 60-80%). Otherwise they perform the same as standard chargers. Score one for the marketing department if you buy in for G4 Play which technically has the hardware to handle turbo charging; however, by all accounts (and my observations) it is not enabled by Motorola...likely due to the run-of-the-mill battery in this device.
https://www.motorola.com/us/products/turbopower
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Thks bro
Sharath356 said:
Anybody using turbo charger or quick charger with Moto g4 play?. I got charger which is very slow.
Which charger are you using guys?. Any battery problem with fast charging?
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I've used the turbo charger that came with the moto g turbo and it charges noticeably faster(also gets hotter).
The battery once fully charged lasted the same amount of time for me with both the stock and the turbo charger, so no problems there.
MaanasDwivedi said:
I've used the turbo charger that came with the moto g turbo and it charges noticeably faster(also gets hotter).
The battery once fully charged lasted the same amount of time for me with both the stock and the turbo charger, so no problems there.
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Thks bro. Is it possible to share the pic(of charger) here? I just want to buy it. I am confused to buy one in Amazon. Is there any problem with battery?
Sharath356 said:
Thks bro. Is it possible to share the pic(of charger) here? I just want to buy it. I am confused to buy one in Amazon. Is there any problem with battery?
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http://www.amazon.in/Motorola-Charg...Warranty/dp/B072K7WKJW?tag=googinhydr18418-21
This is the exact charger, I can't be 100% sure about this but I haven't experienced any battery problems personally.
I bought the phone on Amazon India and it came with a rapid charger ... Phone charges to about 50% in 30 minutes and then the charging rate drops .. full charge takes about 2.5 hours
MaanasDwivedi said:
http://www.amazon.in/Motorola-Charg...Warranty/dp/B072K7WKJW?tag=googinhydr18418-21
This is the exact charger, I can't be 100% sure about this but I haven't experienced any battery problems personally.
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How is the charger bro? I will buy this bro if it's alright. How many months are you using this charger?. I will order it immediately if it's totally working fine.
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I bought the phone on Amazon India and it came with a rapid charger ... Phone charges to about 50% in 30 minutes and then the charging rate drops .. full charge takes about 2.5 hours
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Yeah I know the charger. But I got different one. It's just a slow charger. 0.5amps. it's taking 4+hrs to charge
Sharath356 said:
Yeah I know the charger. But I got different one. It's just a slow charger. 0.5amps. it's taking 4+hrs to charge
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Wow that sucks !
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Wow that sucks !
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Yeah bro ;-;
Sharath356 said:
How is the charger bro? I will buy this bro if it's alright. How many months are you using this charger?. I will order it immediately if it's totally working fine.
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I only use it at times, its not mine so I don't use it regularly, but the battery lasts the same as the regular charger in the box.
MaanasDwivedi said:
I only use it at times, its not mine so I don't use it regularly, but the battery lasts the same as the regular charger in the box.
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Thhks bro

Best After market turbo charger?

Hi all,
My original turbo charger died after I man handled it.
I'm looking for a good turbo charger (not the original one coz it costs ₹1200/-) on Flipkart as a sale is going on currently.
Any recommendations from long term users?
Thanks.
sharukhmohammed said:
Hi all,
My original turbo charger died after I man handled it.
I'm looking for a good turbo charger (not the original one coz it costs ₹1200/-) on Flipkart as a sale is going on currently.
Any recommendations from long term users?
Thanks.
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I would say don't use Turbo Charger, fast charger generally degrades the battery life. If your stock charger is not working then you should buy a 5V 2A aftermarket charger which will work fine. Flipkart SmartBuy 2A Fast Charger will do the job, I'm using this charger right now.
sharukhmohammed said:
Hi all,
My original turbo charger died after I man handled it.
I'm looking for a good turbo charger (not the original one coz it costs ₹1200/-) on Flipkart as a sale is going on currently.
Any recommendations from long term users?
Thanks.
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Buy any fast charger that supports Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 i.e the same technology used in Moto turbo chargers.
Well, to preserve battery life expectancy, I've ordered a Sony 2.1A charger from Flipkart for 250/- (on offer though)
sharukhmohammed said:
Well, to preserve battery life expectancy, I've ordered a Sony 2.1A charger from Flipkart for 250/- (on offer though)
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Okay.
But you will definitely miss the fast charging.
I don't know about Flipkart, but Aukey Quick Chargers have always worked well for me... Remember, Turbo Charge is just Quick Charge without the Qualcomm licensing fee.
Quantumizer said:
Okay.
But you will definitely miss the fast charging.
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Yeah, totally but it's already a 1.5 year old device, got it as soon as it came out. So I'd better off preserve the life span of this original battery. I charge the phone over night however.
acejavelin said:
I don't know about Flipkart, but Aukey Quick Chargers have always worked well for me... Remember, Turbo Charge is just Quick Charge without the Qualcomm licensing fee.
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Oh I didn't know that, do you mind me a link?
sharukhmohammed said:
Oh I didn't know that, do you mind me a link?
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Like I said, I don't know anything about Flipkart but here is an Amazon link: https://www.amazon.com/AUKEY-Charger-Samsung-Qualcomm-Certified/dp/B018RR30TK
I have several of these... Once at work, one at home, one in my overnight bugout bag, and one in my computer bag, plus I think my kids have a couple as well, you get the idea.
The work on anything, Pixel, Samsung, LG, Moto, whatever (except OnePlus and a couple others), but they support Quick/Turbo charging on anything that supports Qualcomm Quick Charge or Moto Turbo Charge (it is literally the same thing, provided at the chip level of the Snapdragon processor).

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