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Hello everyone,
Until today I had official firmware I9505XXUGNF1 on my GT-I9505 that I rooted with TowelRoot (great app by the way).
Knox 0x0.
Today I upgraded to I9505XXUGNG8, and I lost the root (of course), but now TowelRoot can't root my phone.
Is there any solution to this or another method to root without tripping the knox?
Thank you.
Delete everything related with knox via titanium back up (popular) or sd maid (personal pref) then root with cf-auto root. Or look up a thread on xda named triangle away...
189cutter said:
Delete everything related with knox via titanium back up (popular) or sd maid (personal pref) then root with cf-auto root. Or look up a thread on xda named triangle away...
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1. I think I need Root to delete Knox apps, don't I ?
2. Will this prevent the Knox status from showing 0x1 or is it only by software level ?
3. I prefer a method that skips the Knox counter in the first place (like TowelRoot) and not messing around (with TriangleAway for example) trying to reset what I could avoid. Also, I always prefer a cleaner method (that requires the least number of changes to the system). Besides, TriangleAway doesn't reset the Knox counter, right ?
Thanks.
Oh yh sry. Just look up thread on triangle away i think it does reset it. Deleting knox app dosent change nothing it system unless you use it. Infact deleting knox gives you more space.
Or start from scratch- delete data/cache via recovery delete and reinstall usb files on your pc, flash firmware, and try rooting again.
189cutter said:
Oh yh sry. Just look up thread on triangle away i think it does reset it. Deleting knox app dosent change nothing it system unless you use it. Infact deleting knox gives you more space.
Or start from scratch- delete data/cache via recovery delete and reinstall usb files on your pc, flash firmware, and try rooting again.
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KNOX counter cannot be reset even by using Triangle Away. No matter how many data wipes you do or
caches you clean.
Once it it 0x1, it remains 0x1.
LionGod8 said:
1. I think I need Root to delete Knox apps, don't I ?
2. Will this prevent the Knox status from showing 0x1 or is it only by software level ?
3. I prefer a method that skips the Knox counter in the first place (like TowelRoot) and not messing around (with TriangleAway for example) trying to reset what I could avoid. Also, I always prefer a cleaner method (that requires the least number of changes to the system). Besides, TriangleAway doesn't reset the Knox counter, right ?
Thanks.
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Yeah. But what samsung did now was, that they fixed the loophole in KNOX 2.0 OTA upgrade which geohot was using to gain root access.
Wait for a while and see if he gets another loophole to root.
Press Thanks if I helped
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Surely someone has root on ugng8 using towelroot?
From what i know ppl used cf root and custom rommed there phones. Why stick to samsuck?
Try this - Worked for me
LionGod8 said:
Hello everyone,
Until today I had official firmware I9505XXUGNF1 on my GT-I9505 that I rooted with TowelRoot (great app by the way).
Knox 0x0.
Today I upgraded to I9505XXUGNG8, and I lost the root (of course), but now TowelRoot can't root my phone.
Is there any solution to this or another method to root without tripping the knox?
Thank you.
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Hi LionGod8
I had same problem with my GT-I9505 (jfltexx), just google " root I9505XXUGNG8 " (without quotes)
should be top result from nasirtech blog .
I used Odin 3.09, make sure to wait for pass.... Might take a little while.
checked with root checker , all good.
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i updated too and lost root, and then found out that towelroot is no longer working! any help on rooting without knox 0x1 would be great.
Flash a lower kernel and then use towelroot and then flash back the correct kernel for your rom. Knox will be 0x0 but system status will be custom.
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Hi glosman,
Found a page on w0lfdroid.com that backs-up what you suggest and provides kernel links.
I am plucking the courage to try this.
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Many thanks to glosman and w0lfDroid,
Works for me!!!!
So now I have my sd-card back under my control no thanks to google kitkat. Also knox warranty still 0x0 no thanks to Samsung.
Thanks for giving us FREEDOM OF CHOICE.
cjelliott
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What about status of the phone? Custom or anything else?
Device staus still shows "Official"
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**UPDATE**
So I un-rooted with SuperSU and Knox is still 0x0. How can I just re-flash my phone back to factory (where/what file do I download) with what software? I can't recall if I deleted any stock apps. I just want it 100% back to factory out-of-the-box.
Thanks in advance!
*old info for reference*
Hi there,
I'm sure I've missed it but I just want to be 100% sure so I apologize if this has (probably) been asked 100 times.
I rooted my Galaxy Note 3 Verizon with Towelroot as soon as it was released. It worked great and knox is still 0x0. I need to do a warranty replacement on my device due to a faulty charging port and need to remove my root access.
Info:
Model: SM-N900V
Hardware Version: N900V.07
Android Version 4.4.2
Knox status: 0x0
No ROMs have been added. Just added root access to stop some apps from running.
What is the proper way to remove root access without tripping Knox?
Probably better safe to just do a full on reset. I found a guide but I'm prevented from posting links... But it involves running Odin and reflashing the default firmware. would this be the correct way to reset/unroot and not trip Knox?
I would like to unroot and just do a full 100% reset as if it was just being pulled out of the box without of course tripping knox. In searching, someone said to just use Samsung Kies software: "under the firmware upgrade menu. It will fully wipe the phone and return it to stock." Is this a correct method?
Thanks!
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Also just found this on kingoapp:
"How does this KNOX Counter work?
Under what circumstances will KNOX Counter be flagged or tripped?
The KNOX Counter WILL NOT be flagged or tripped when using Samsung Kies or Odin to flash a stock ROM."
Seems like I'm answering my own question. So is Samsung Kies the best route? Does the above statement apply even if you're already rooted?
In superuser setting, there is a menu 'full unroot', use that.
fadhil3536 said:
In superuser setting, there is a menu 'full unroot', use that.
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Hi, thanks for the reply. I never could get superuser setup and working, main reason for root was to freeze/remove some stock apps. I would like to unroot and just do a full 100% reset as if it was just being pulled out of the box without of course tripping knox. In searching, someone said to just use Samsung Kies software: "under the firmware upgrade menu. It will fully wipe the phone and return it to stock." Is this a correct method?
Thanks!
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Also just found this on kingoapp:
"How does this KNOX Counter work?
Under what circumstances will KNOX Counter be flagged or tripped?
The KNOX Counter WILL NOT be flagged or tripped when using Samsung Kies or Odin to flash a stock ROM."
Seems like I'm answering my own question. So is Samsung Kies the best route? Does the above statement apply even if you're already rooted?
fadhil3536 said:
In superuser setting, there is a menu 'full unroot', use that.
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So I un-rooted with SuperSU and Knox is still 0x0. How can I just re-flash my phone back to factory (where/what file do I download) with what software? I can't recall if I deleted any stock apps. I just want it 100% back to factory out-of-the-box.
Thanks in advance! +1 for Thanked as well!
sharpshot152 said:
So I un-rooted with SuperSU and Knox is still 0x0. How can I just re-flash my phone back to factory (where/what file do I download) with what software? I can't recall if I deleted any stock apps. I just want it 100% back to factory out-of-the-box.
Thanks in advance! +1 for Thanked as well!
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Knox will not trip as long you doesn't flash custom recovery or kernel or custom Rom.
Warning:
Factory reset using stock recovery will wipe your internal storage.
Backup all your file in Internal storage first.
Software needed to flash stock rom,
I use Odin V3.09
Firmware = download at sammobile website.
I am planning on rooting my S8, but my main concern is that I will not be able to use apps like Secure Folder. Is there a way to still use those apps when I have rooted my S8? I don't really care about my warranty or tripping knox.
After you root you wont be able to use any of the following
1)Samsung Pay
2)S-Health
3)Samsung Pass
4)Secure Folder
and after you root the Knox E-Fuse will be tripped
but their are work arounds for the following
1)S-Health
2) Samsung Pass
witch is to install a custom rom i have installed
ALEXISROM_5.6.1
Rayan599 said:
After you root you wont be able to use any of the following
1)Samsung Pay
2)S-Health
3)Samsung Pass
4)Secure Folder
and after you root the Knox E-Fuse will be tripped
but their are work arounds for the following
1)S-Health
2) Samsung Pass
witch is to install a custom rom i have installed
ALEXISROM_5.6.1
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That's unfortunate. I assume that even if I unroot, secure folder won't work?
Rakesh37187 said:
That's unfortunate. I assume that even if I unroot, secure folder won't work?
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It won't work
I've used the batman ? rom and still had secure folder ?
That was on a galaxy s7 edge with a ported s8 rom tho.
Never felt the need to root my s8.
I believe that you could flash the Superstock Kernel and then install Secure Folder from APKMirror or a similar site on the S7. Not sure if it would work on the S8.
Hello
How to use secure folder with Knox 0x1 ?
It there any way to do this ?
no
locarno said:
Hello
How to use secure folder with Knox 0x1 ?
It there any way to do this ?
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Once your Knox is tripped you can not use secure folder. There is no fix for a tripped Knox.
Is it possible to mask the 0x1 to make Knox and Samsung Pay work?
WilliamBlake said:
Is it possible to mask the 0x1 to make Knox and Samsung Pay work?
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Yes MagiskHide masks the 0x1 Value to 0x0 and it might work to use some of the features that check for the Knox counter value.
0. You need to be rooted with the latest version of Magisk.
1. You need to change the name of the Magisk Manager app to a different name using the "Hide Magisk Manager" function.
2. Turn on MagiskHide in settings and check Samsung pay and Secure folder (And all the apps that help them run like Samsung pay framework etc.) in the MagiskHide tab.
3. Delete any files in your internal storage that have Magisk in the name.
4. (Optional) If you dont want to be rooted you can also disable Superuser access within the Magisk Manager App.
Edit: You may also have to enable "Magisk Core Only Mode" so that no modules or anything extra is loaded that Samsung Pay could possibly detect.
This is not 100% guarenteed to work but it is worth a try as it is close as you are going to get to knox 0x0.
JJcoder said:
Yes MagiskHide masks the 0x1 Value to 0x0 and it might work to use some of the features that check for the Knox counter value.
0. You need to be rooted with the latest version of Magisk.
1. You need to change the name of the Magisk Manager app to a different name using the "Hide Magisk Manager" function.
2. Turn on MagiskHide in settings and check Samsung pay and Secure folder (And all the apps that help them run like Samsung pay framework etc.) in the MagiskHide tab.
3. Delete any files in your internal storage that have Magisk in the name.
4. (Optional) If you dont want to be rooted you can also disable Superuser access within the Magisk Manager App.
This is not 100% guarenteed to work but it is worth a try as it is close as you are going to get to knox 0x0.
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Once Knox is tripped it triggers an Efuse, that can only be fixed by a motherboard replacement. Samsung Pay will never work once Knox has been tripped.
stonedpsycho said:
Once Knox is tripped it triggers an Efuse, that can only be fixed by a motherboard replacement. Samsung Pay will never work once Knox has been tripped.
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I know, but MagiskHide masks the value to 0x0.
JJcoder said:
I know, but MagiskHide masks the value to 0x0
on boot.
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That will not make Samsung Pay work.
stonedpsycho said:
That will not make Samsung Pay work.
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Are you sure? Maybe if you just enable MagiskHide it wont work; but if you follow all of my steps how can Samsung pay detect Knox 0x1 and root? Maybe you have to reinstall Samsung Pay? I am still on the 7 day jail (RMM state lock) on my S8 so I can't experiment with it right now.
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Are you sure? Maybe if you just enable MagiskHide it wont work; but if you follow all of my steps how can Samsung pay detect Knox 0x1 and root? Maybe you have to reinstall Samsung Pay? I am still on the 7 day jail (RMM state lock) on my S8 so I can't experiment with it right now.
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It will not fix the Efuse though.
stonedpsycho said:
It will not fix the Efuse though.
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You are right! I'm not trying to revert the eFUSE that
is not possible. I am trying to mask the value so that Samsung Pay and other apps will think that Knox is 0x0 and that the phone is not rooted. My question is
how can Samsung Pay detect Knox 0x1 even when following all of the steps I listed above while all of the Knox Status apps on the Play Store say 0x0 while simply enabling MagiskHide and checking the app in the MagiskHide tab?
JJcoder said:
You are right! I'm not trying to revert the eFUSE that
is not possible. I am trying to mask the value so that Samsung Pay and other apps will think that Knox is 0x0 and that the phone is not rooted. My question is
how can Samsung Pay detect Knox 0x1 even when following all of the steps I listed above while all of the Knox Status apps on the Play Store say 0x0 while simply enabling MagiskHide and checking the app in the MagiskHide tab?
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I am no expert and don't understand how it all works but if there was a way or workaround for Samsung Pay to work I think the talented Devs here on XDA would have found a solution by now, like one did for Secure Folder.
stonedpsycho said:
I am no expert and don't understand how it all works but if there was a way or workaround for Samsung Pay to work I think the talented Devs here on XDA would have found a solution by now, like one did for Secure Folder.
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Did anyone actually try following the steps I listed? Maybe you also have to enable Magisk Core only mode so no modules or anything extra is loaded that Samsung Pay could possibly detect? If that doesn't work then what about reinstalling Samsung Pay and it's framework after following these steps?
As I said I wish I could try myself but I am still in RMM state: Prenormal
JJcoder said:
Did anyone actually try following the steps I listed? Maybe you also have to enable Magisk Core only mode so no modules or anything extra is loaded that Samsung Pay could possibly detect? If that doesn't work then what about reinstalling Samsung Pay and it's framework after following these steps?
As I said I wish I could try myself but I am still in RMM state: Prenormal
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I have never tried that but I highly doubt it will work still.
Jail time! You tried the trick of moving the clock forward 7+ days?
stonedpsycho said:
I have never tried that but I highly doubt it will work still.
Jail time! You tried the trick of moving the clock forward 7+ days?
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Yes, but it didn't work for me (because I think it only works on Oreo and im on Pie)
So I just have to wait 7 days.
JJcoder said:
Yes, but it didn't work for me (because I think it only works on Oreo and im on Pie)
So I just have to wait 7 days.
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I know it can be hit and miss and can take a few attempts, probably worth another try. I only faced jail time on Oreo, but I use a Note 8.
If you do get Spay to work though, please let us know as so many people will be very happy with you :fingers-crossed:
stonedpsycho said:
I know it can be hit and miss and can take a few attempts, probably worth another try. I only faced jail time on Oreo, but I use a Note 8.
If you do get Spay to work though, please let us know as so many people will be very happy with you :fingers-crossed:
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Well im already on my third day and if the date trick doesn't work then i'll have to start all over again.
As yes I will let everyone know if I can get Samsung Pay to work
so i have galaxy s10+ sm-g975F
i rooted the phone then i flash the last firmware G975FXXUFHVG4 to relock the bootloader and get fresh clean software
so here is the issues samsung pass keep detecting the device was rooted
the second package disabler owner app cannot sit as an admin anymore giving me java errors
i flash other firmware i keep getting the same issue
i email package disabler pro asking them what the issue they give me no answer
how i can totally get rid of all the root files on my phone
UP
Simple, once you root, you lose KNOX forever.
Pass, Secure Folder need KNOX.
You can unroot by just flashing the latest firmware with Odin. But KNOX related stuff, that's bye bye forever.
PlutoDelic said:
Simple, once you root, you lose KNOX forever.
Pass, Secure Folder need KNOX.
You can unroot by just flashing the latest firmware with Odin. But KNOX related stuff, that's bye bye forever.
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ic i really dont care about knox package disabler all what i care about
i remove the unwanted bloatware using adb command
seen_bawl said:
ic i really dont care about knox package disabler all what i care about
i remove the unwanted bloatware using adb command
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Just so we dont get confused here.
When i say KNOX, i don't mean any sort of package disabler, i mean the KNOX security system inside Samsung phones. It's an eFuse that gets tripped once you root, and it's impossible to revert back.
Some Samsung services such as Secure Folder, Samsung Pass, WILL NEVER work even if you flash the latest official rom.
Now, if you want my two cents, debloating used to work, but not as much anymore, of course i may stand corrected, but i tested it myself without any difference in results.
Why dont you make use of the Deep Sleep listing in Device care, that way you limit an app from waking up unless you actually want too. Of course, im assuming this is all for battery gains.