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Android L on Galaxy S2

http://www.androidauthority.com/cyanogenmod-galaxy-nexus-support-524676/
With this news, I am scared that our beloved device will be forgotten by cyanogenmod too. Android L is such a huge upgrade and I cant wait to get it on my S2. Hopefully CM wont drop the official support!

Luckily CM is not the only custom rom in the world

Yeah, but they all are derived from CM sources aren't they?? Correct me if i am mistaken. Although I am more than optimistic that S II will get it, because Galaxy S still gets official support, and S II is miles better than S1.

You are right about CM sources.
SII has exynos CPU?? Then... So you can understand why S1 still has official support.

Sources are different from CM, OMNI and SlimRom

Omni is not using any CM sources, I think.... I hope they can give us an L build... That would be great...

ahmedelhofy said:
Omni is not using any CM sources, I think.... I hope they can give us an L build... That would be great...
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I think it will be fine.

http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/the-l-is-for-later
I think this says it all.

Zile995_ care to explain please why S1 gets official upgrade bt S2 doesn't
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Zile995, would u care to explain please why s1 still receives official support but s2 doesn't
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Because S2 has Exynos chipset which has closed sources, so can't be made to work with new versions of Android.
S1 chipset is open sourced and easier to port new roms to. Same with S3.

Then how come we have Android kitkat on our S2? Who made drivers and stuff ?

Hey guys !!! Is the source code for Android 5.0 Lollipop out? I just cant wait get my hand on it !!! Its so freaking awesome !!! Any idea when we might get it for S II I9100 ?

Paranoid Android is not supporting i9100 with android L

suresh86 said:
Hey guys !!! Is the source code for Android 5.0 Lollipop out? I just cant wait get my hand on it !!! Its so freaking awesome !!! Any idea when we might get it for S II I9100 ?
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Unfortunately, You might not get your hands on it with an S2... Most Custom ROMs are dropping support for i9100/N7000... CM is probably dropping support, though not confirmed I think... AFAIK Omni is surely dropping support... And PA as well...
But, you know... We can't expect the future.. Maybe some talented devs could help us get L.. Who knows ?

https://plus.google.com/106020481530876935386/posts/iU8TBAAA4w2
This confirms PA is dropping support, not sure about Omni, but it's confirmed that due to lack of testers on i9300 it was abandoned
https://plus.google.com/107788149854859799410/posts/SjYwHtN6tXG

Chairmansaab said:
Then how come we have Android kitkat on our S2? Who made drivers and stuff ?
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Yeah, I know, I come a couple weeks later... But wanted to answer the question.
CM doesn't use Samsung's binary blobs (or drivers), because it's unknown how to communicate with those, so someone had to do some reverse engineering and create new blobs that try to emulate as close as possible the behaviour of Samsung blobs, sometimes grabbing the Nexus one and adjusting things here and there. Thing is that because of not knowing the complete specifications of the Exynos SOC, these new drivers will never be as optimized as Samsung's, and will also be heavily buggy (that's why some games don't even work in the i9100 CM).
It's no fault of the developers, tho, I'm actually impressed on how good they turned out to be, given the difficulties, but this makes development really hard and the CM experience lacking, compared to other phones. Mind you, with all this in mind, I have been using CM in my S2 for years now, can't stand the laggy feel of Stock Touchwiz, even if it has better drivers.

OmniRom 5.0
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[Discussion]Android Lollipop for S3 International. Will it be possible?

So all we need is an update for Note 2 so we can get a TW port. Perhaps this port could be more stable than KK. So the question is, when is the 5.0 official update for Note 2 will come? Are there even rumors for an update for the note 2?

Android Lollipop will most likely be even less hardware-hungry than kitkat. So I see no big problem in bringing it stable to our device.

aosp lollipop - yes, if it will be ported or support for s3 by cm will continue, that would be awesome

Android L is like windows 7 and 8, similar but better performance

we can dream ! no

claptraw said:
Android Lollipop will most likely be even less hardware-hungry than kitkat. So I see no big problem in bringing it stable to our device.
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I want to think so, let's wait

Sorry for coming around with such a negative approach but do you really think that we'll get Lollipop after KitKat was cancelled? That seems to be unlogical, especially when we think about the update policy of Samsung.

Occasus said:
Sorry for coming around with such a negative approach but do you really think that we'll get Lollipop after KitKat was cancelled? That seems to be unlogical, especially when we think about the update policy of Samsung.
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Hi!
I don't think that S3 will get Lollipop directly from Samsung (I think nobody expect that), but I expect that will be technically possible, hardware could running it and developers try to port the update for this device.
From Samsung, I don't expect nothing.

what i really hope is that android 5 won't need a kernel update.... or we will be stuck with an unworking cm12
By the way, can you guys explain me how project volta works? will it come to other non-nexus devices? thanks

I need touchwiz based Android Lollipop with blend of s5 and Note 4 features. Will it be possible in future?
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I dont think samsung will be giving official update for s3..

FritzFact said:
what i really hope is that android 5 won't need a kernel update.... or we will be stuck with an unworking cm12
By the way, can you guys explain me how project volta works? will it come to other non-nexus devices? thanks
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Project Volta? What is that?

liborio99 said:
Project Volta? What is that?
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Project Volta is for battery improvement

Lolipop on GT-I9300
I saw this today
www_sammobile_com /2013/03/18/galaxy-s-ii-galaxy-note-to-get-android-4-2-2-android-5-0-for-the-galaxy-s-iii-galaxy-note-ii/
Do you think is true?

its from two years ago and we didnt even got 4.4 so no, its not true.

cd1977 said:
I saw this today
www_sammobile_com /2013/03/18/galaxy-s-ii-galaxy-note-to-get-android-4-2-2-android-5-0-for-the-galaxy-s-iii-galaxy-note-ii/
Do you think is true?
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You saw a news which is dated at march 2013, are you serious?
There will be no touchwiz based lollipop for SGS3. If we're lucky, EXTREMELY lucky, some exynos 4 device may get lollipop, like Note II got kitkat, and somebody may port it, but this is THE BEST SCENARIO, considering the fact that Note 2 got KK and we didn't, and Samsung policy, we may NOT be that lucky. I doubt that any Exynos4 similar device will make it.
You'll have more luck waiting for CyanogenMod, Omni or similar AOSP ROMs, but be prepared for issues, I already have some sneaky tests going on .

I fear that it will be the KitKat thread all over again with rumors, screenshots of "test reports" and whatnot.

Curst said:
I fear that it will be the KitKat thread all over again with rumors, screenshots of "test reports" and whatnot.
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Well, kitkat was made for devices with 1gb of ram. Rumors says that android 5.0 is going to be for devices with 512mb of ram(or even more). So chances are that we could skip kk and go directly to L. But this is based on rumors only.

Not likely mate. As far as Samsung is concerned our device is obsolete.

S3 did not get KitKat. What else for lollipop?
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racz41 said:
S3 did not get KitKat. What else for lollipop?
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hope

Cm11 for note 4?

Just got my note 4 and noticed that cm 12 isn't ready. So u searched for a stable cm11 to install and it seems that I can't find any posts about development on it.
I haven't found YouTube videos either on this.
What gives?
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Friend, that's like buying a new Ferrari and retrofitting it with a 4 cylinder engine
Someone has to go to the effort to retrofit cm11 to our device. Apparently no one has yet.

Why would you ever do this?

ickna11 said:
Why would you ever do this?
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Some of us prefer the stock android experience over touchwiz, Like me personally. I understand you will lose many Samsung features like s-pen.
dilfatx said:
Just got my note 4 and noticed that cm 12 isn't ready. So u searched for a stable cm11 to install and it seems that I can't find any posts about development on it.
I haven't found YouTube videos either on this.
What gives?
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Note 4 is an quite new device, and has little or no custom rom atm.
@RaymanFX an Recognized Developer here at XDA, is the offical CM12 maintainer for Note 10 2014, He is looking to port CM12 to Galaxy note 4 exynos, He was able to port CM12 in just a couple of months. Please check out the thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=3463426

Thank you for the explanation. I'll flown that thread.. I currently have the US T-Mobile version..
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tweeny80 said:
Friend, that's like buying a new Ferrari and retrofitting it with a 4 cylinder engine
Someone has to go to the effort to retrofit cm11 to our device. Apparently no one has yet.
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haha i think there is no better way to explain it as you did !!

Why would someone want TW
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dilfatx said:
Just got my note 4 and noticed that cm 12 isn't ready. So u searched for a stable cm11 to install and it seems that I can't find any posts about development on it.
I haven't found YouTube videos either on this.
What gives?
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The Note 4 came out about the same time as Cm12 came out. So, there's no Cm11 for the Note 4 and it would take a lot of time and effort to make it. So like everybody said, since Cm12/lollipop is out, why would anyone want cm11 ? It wont ever come to the Note 4.
CM12 Snapdragon is still in Alpha. We're working on the last feature that's still not available: UHD video recording. We already got it working 100% correct in FV-5 cam, got it working in opencamera since yesterday (however still not 100% perfect, it initializes with a black screen but after that everything works fine) and got it recording in the lollipop stock cam, but it's garbled up (found the problem already). But it's good progress, so I'm expecting results soon.
Then, if that last feature that wasnt available in Cm12, has become available, I think we can call it a betaROM. After that we will focus on fixing and improving current features. However, looking at how extremely fast development for Note 4 snapdragon has gone (in a few weeks from nothing to a ROM that has almost all features working) and that some very gifted, dedicated and talented devs like @fattire and @slayher are working on it, I expect a rock solid stable build before the end of Q1.
About Exynos, I dont know. People just started a donation fund to get a dev an Exynos Note but seriously, Exynos are generally (way) more difficult to develop for, since most of the stuff is closed and generally most devs buy Snapdragons. And you need at least like 3 good and dedicated devs to get things going in a reasonable timeframe, it's just WAY too much work for 1 dev alone to get to a stable build.
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invisiblesushi said:
I understand you will lose many Samsung features like s-pen.
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S-pen works perfectly in CM12.

gekkehenkie11 said:
About Exynos, I dont know. People just started a donation fund to get a dev an Exynos Note but seriously, Exynos are generally (way) more difficult to develop for, since most of the stuff is closed and generally most devs buy Snapdragons. And you need at least like 3 good and dedicated devs to get things going in a reasonable timeframe, it's just WAY too much work for 1 dev alone to get to a stable build.
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Completely okay with this. I went with the n910c, because I have heard that it is easier on the battery, and is actually faster. Plus that glimmer of hope that it will get 64-bit. Custom roms are cool, but I can wait.

sireniankyle said:
Completely okay with this. I went with the n910c, because I have heard that it is easier on the battery, and is actually faster. Plus that glimmer of hope that it will get 64-bit. Custom roms are cool, but I can wait.
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Please join the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/donate-via-paypal-to-cyanogenmod-12-t2986964,
The dev said it would be possible to get 64-bit support working.
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it should be entirely possible to get 64bit support in a custom ROM.
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The Note is now 4 month old, its not so new but after 4 month der is no cm11, unstable cm12 and old custom roms. Only Omega is real new but the other get no updates over weeks. Its not so got for 4 month old Samsung device.

Schrotty35 said:
The Note is now 4 month old, its not so new but after 4 month der is no cm11, unstable cm12 and old custom roms. Only Omega is real new but the other get no updates over weeks. Its not so got for 4 month old Samsung device.
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Look at the T-Mobile Note 4 forum, there are many, many custom Roms and Lollipop Roms. It seems the N910F version is being left behind in development as most devs seem to have the T-Mobile version . Incidentally, the Note 4 is only around just over 2months old, it was released at the end of October.

Batfink33 said:
Look at the T-Mobile Note 4 forum, there are many, many custom Roms and Lollipop Roms. It seems the N910F version is being left behind in development as most devs seem to have the T-Mobile version . Incidentally, the Note 4 is only around just over 2months old, it was released at the end of October.
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910F is not being left in development at all. Development is common, only difference is the modem and that's solved already, so EVERYTHING that we're developing is done for all versions of the snapdragon. Like, I've been working hard with Slayher and Fattire the last weeks to solve the last issues, like getting NFC up and now 4k recording (working on FV-5 and opencam already now with our latest patches, and hopefully stock cam soon too). I dont have time (nor will) to release nightlies, preaper has been doing some, I think he will continue. If not I will see if I can release something at least twice a month. Or, alternatively, compile it yourself, it's not hard at all, especially if you know some programming you should be able to do it.
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Schrotty35 said:
The Note is now 4 month old, its not so new but after 4 month der is no cm11, unstable cm12 and old custom roms. Only Omega is real new but the other get no updates over weeks. Its not so got for 4 month old Samsung device.
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This is just nonsense, it's not out 4 months, it's barely out 2 months. We've gone from NOTHING to a ROM that has ALL features in under 2 months, I think that's a tremendous accomplishment. And that's mainly due to @slayher and @fattire, these guys have been working around the clock almost every day, from morning to night, I think they deserve some more respect,it seems you don't have any idea how much (unpaid !!) work all this has been. I only played a very small part in it and I've been working weeks myself already, putting in pretty much all of my spare time for the last month.
You see, this wasn't just a 'port' to a new device. It's been a port to an operating system that Samsung itself even hasn't released (lollipop), so that made it extra hard. If it's a port to an existing system, you can just compare logs from the existing TW to the CM logs. But since in Lollipop a lot has changed, that wasn't possible for a lot of stuff.
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Oh and btw, I just shot my first UHD video using the stock cam

Android 7.0 aka Nougat!

Google unveiled the Android 7 aka Nougat. So what is your thought? Any features will be? Memory leak? Battery Life? Dark Mode? Will be OnePlus One will get the update?

madsponge26 said:
Google unveiled the Android 7 aka Nougat. So what is your thought?Will be OnePlus One will get the update?
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No.if they update , then one plus will not earn money..

V might get cm14 ... at least unofficially

I think we could all agree on the point that the OnePlus One will get the official CM nightlies. If Cyanogen Inc. is going to update the OPO depends on the user base. (Source: COS 13 thread OP Forums..) Steve Kondik said, with a reason, that they totally rebased the OnePlus One with the COS 13 update, a part of the reason why they did that is that it would make faster OS updates in the future possible.

I believe in the CyanogenMod guys, I think that officially we'll never see Android 7 on the phone, but unofficially I'm pretty confident.

It is evident that Cyanogen Inc is pushing Microsoft mods pretty dramatically to OPO with at least the latest COS 13.1 update.
They will definitely use this phone for the large user base to check for the usage pattern, and other statistics for creating a better baseline and user experience for MOD going forward. And obviously, Microsoft also has an interest in having more people use their "integrated" apps and OPO is very good device for that.
So my opinion is a STRONG YES, Cyanogen Inc WILL update to Android N, but again, 3 months after the first release.

devlamania said:
It is evident that Cyanogen Inc is pushing Microsoft mods pretty dramatically to OPO with at least the latest COS 13.1 update.
They will definitely use this phone for the large user base to check for the usage pattern, and other statistics for creating a better baseline and user experience for MOD going forward. And obviously, Microsoft also has an interest in having more people use their "integrated" apps and OPO is very good device for that.
So my opinion is a STRONG YES, Cyanogen Inc WILL update to Android N, but again, 3 months after the first release.
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Microsoft? What?

LGXX said:
Microsoft? What?
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The latest Cyanogen OS updates contain Cortana, Skype integration, Bing search engine defaults etc. It's all optional/uninstallable, but it's there.

Since the dev scene for OPO is still pretty active ( one example: 3.10 kernel) i'm pretty sure we'll get android 7.0 via unofficial cm14

effry said:
Since the dev scene for OPO is still pretty active ( one example: 3.10 kernel) i'm pretty sure we'll get android 7.0 via unofficial cm14
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Why do you think they're going to stop with the official CM Nightlies?

Jeffrey98 said:
Why do you think they're going to stop with the official CM Nightlies?
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He's just guessing but I personally expect this phone to get 7.0 and 8.0 official CM Nightlies. I think COS will end for OPO with Android N but I could be wrong

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Why do you think they're going to stop with the official CM Nightlies?
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Usually cyanogen stops support after 2 years, just like Google does. OPO could be an exception, both because the snapdragon 801 is still a pretty popular processor and because the phone itself is still rocking. but nothing is sure on this side.

Renosh said:
He's just guessing but I personally expect this phone to get 7.0 and 8.0 official CM Nightlies. I think COS will end for OPO with Android N but I could be wrong
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If we're taking a look at the contract for the updates, then the official support ended at the end of May. But as Steve Kondik said, they'll be updating the OPO to Android N if the userbase is large enough (COS). And the official CM Nightlies will continue even a few years after the official support ends. So one way or another, we'll be seeing Android N on the OPO.
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effry said:
Usually cyanogen stops support after 2 years, just like Google does. OPO could be an exception, both because the snapdragon 801 is still a pretty popular processor and because the phone itself is still rocking. but nothing is sure on this side.
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It's not really true that Google stops supporting their phones after 2 years actually. Google keeps updating the device if the hardware is still good enough for it. That's one of the reasons the Nexus 5 still receives security patches, just like the Nexus 7 (2013).

madsponge26 said:
Google unveiled the Android 7 aka Nougat. So what is your thought? Any features will be? Memory leak? Battery Life? Dark Mode? Will be OnePlus One will get the update?
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I'm preaty sure we will get the Official update from Cyanogen Inc!
If you look at Cyanogen Inc official page, our phone IS THE ONLY PHONE currently running their latest OS (COS13.1).
The Oneplus One was the first well known Cyanogen Phone, and they wont abandon it's first child.
I think we will be updated until google stops supporting its Nexus 6 (SD 805), because it was the last nexus with a 32 bit CPU and Android will soon abandon the 32 bit architecture complitly (my opinion).
Untill then we are safe.

I expect to see Nougat custom ROMs very quickly, eventually, CM14 nightlies, but I expect that there will never be an official Nougat update for the OnePlus One.

Does this apply to other phones having the SD 801 too? I'm planning to buy the Zuk Z1 which has a SD 801. If the OPO receives CM14, is there a possibility of the Zuk Z1 receiving CM14 too?

Even if OPO doesn't get official update, the fan base of this phone and the impact it did to both 1+ and Cyanogen, I think we will still find a way to get nice and crisp Nougat experience. But who knows. Time will tell
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I am very confident that we can see android 8.0 (Oreo) on oneplus one

kryshnakishore said:
I am very confident that we can see android 8.0 (Oreo) on oneplus one
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You sir are a visionary (about the oreo name ;p)

[HYPE]
Canadian Telecom provider Telus leaked that Nougat is going to be released this monday 22 August.
They were spot on last year with the Marshmallow release.
Excited!! :fingers-crossed:
[HYPE]

ANDROID 7.0 for Oneplus X?!

Flood the comments section with OnePlus X, let's hope that it catches the eye of one of the developers! xD
http://www.xda-developers.com/which-device-do-you-want-an-android-7-0-nougat-custom-rom-on/

Isn't it too early for this thread?, The community build of marshmallow has just been released and we still have more to explore. Anyway i hope some developer may start working soon and we can taste the flavor of Nougat. CHEERS. ?

The important fact is that the OPX might never get official Nougat releases due to Qualcomm ceasing support for their 800/801 SoC (they won't be getting OpenGL ES 3.1, which is needed for official Android 7.0 releases).
This is going to impact on over 50 android smartphones.
Source: https://developer.qualcomm.com/foru...-hardware/mobile-gaming-graphics-adreno/27936

shatteringlass said:
The important fact is that the OPX might never get official Nougat releases due to Qualcomm ceasing support for their 800/801 SoC (they won't be getting OpenGL ES 3.1, which is needed for official Android 7.0 releases).
This is going to impact on over 50 android smartphones.
Source: https://developer.qualcomm.com/foru...-hardware/mobile-gaming-graphics-adreno/27936
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damn. Well, is there any way around this?

R3XER said:
Isn't it too early for this thread?, The community build of marshmallow has just been released and we still have more to explore. Anyway i hope some developer may start working soon and we can taste the flavor of Nougat. CHEERS. ?
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Well, no it's not early. We have been using Marshmallow on OnePlus X thanks to our beloved developers since a long time now. We've given up hope on OnePlus, it's all on our developers now

I don't think the news about sd 800/801 being incompatible is true, because Nexus 5 has already received a 7.0 build (alpha) and Xperia Z3 also got dev previews. Both of these are sd 800/801 devices. And also the OnePlus One:

gavisharora said:
I don't think the news about sd 800/801 being incompatible is true, because Nexus 5 has already received a 7.0 build (alpha) and Xperia Z3 also got dev previews. Both of these are sd 800/801 devices. And also the OnePlus One:
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Original post for that image?

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Original post for that image?
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Not a post, my friend sent it.

yup..z3 already got N dev preview..anyway it doesnt matter if opx dont get official N if we can get CM nougat from our dev ?
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meraj99 said:
Well, no it's not early. We have been using Marshmallow on OnePlus X thanks to our beloved developers since a long time now. We've given up hope on OnePlus, it's all on our developers now
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The OP X is a phone with less a year. They should provide at least 24 months of support.
Abandoning the support isn't exactly what I (and other customers I suppose) was searching for (I bought the OPX at day one).
Letting the support to the developers isn't the solution, because the are not paid and everything they do is for free and with less instruments. All of us paid OP for supporting.
If they aren't supporting anymore OPX surely I'm not going to buy an other OP and probably neither an Android. every year we are here to reading and expecting if a phone would be upgraded to the newest version. If you buy a high end phone certanly this will get 24 months of support, but if you are going to buy a midrange, you are going to pray for some updates. All the phone makers are just making fun of us.
A comparison: iphone 4s launched in 2011 with ios 5 and its lust update was ios 9. 4 year of support!

be_are said:
yup..z3 already got N dev preview..anyway it doesnt matter if opx dont get official N if we can get CM nougat from our dev
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The only reason Z3 got developer preview is because sony n google want to test Android 7.0 on SD 800/801 powered devices
I guess their attempt ended up as a failure and so Z3 has been excluded from Sony update tree for Android 7.0

dani.galla said:
The OP X is a phone with less a year. They should provide at least 24 months of support.
Abandoning the support isn't exactly what I (and other customers I suppose) was searching for (I bought the OPX at day one).
Letting the support to the developers isn't the solution, because the are not paid and everything they do is for free and with less instruments. All of us paid OP for supporting.
If they aren't supporting anymore OPX surely I'm not going to buy an other OP and probably neither an Android. every year we are here to reading and expecting if a phone would be upgraded to the newest version. If you buy a high end phone certanly this will get 24 months of support, but if you are going to buy a midrange, you are going to pray for some updates. All the phone makers are just making fun of us.
A comparison: iphone 4s launched in 2011 with ios 5 and its lust update was ios 9. 4 year of support!
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It's not as if OnePlus is stopping support. They can't do anything since Qualcomm isn't going to update graphics drivers for SD800/801, which is necessary for Vulkan APIs, which in turn is necessary to pass Google CTS. No Google CTS = no more official update for those chipsets. So it's actually a consequence of Qualcomm's action.
The only way we'll get Nougat is in the form of custom ROMs by the hard work of devs. But again, just to be clear, none of the Nougat custom ROMs will have the Vulkan APIs, since it just isn't possible for 800/801 (afaik). That said, personally I don't really care about official updates since I've been running custom ROMs from the beginning, and I'm sure the good devs will bring us some Nougat love too

dani.galla said:
The OP X is a phone with less a year. They should provide at least 24 months of support.
Abandoning the support isn't exactly what I (and other customers I suppose) was searching for (I bought the OPX at day one).
Letting the support to the developers isn't the solution, because the are not paid and everything they do is for free and with less instruments. All of us paid OP for supporting.
If they aren't supporting anymore OPX surely I'm not going to buy an other OP and probably neither an Android. every year we are here to reading and expecting if a phone would be upgraded to the newest version. If you buy a high end phone certanly this will get 24 months of support, but if you are going to buy a midrange, you are going to pray for some updates. All the phone makers are just making fun of us.
A comparison: iphone 4s launched in 2011 with ios 5 and its lust update was ios 9. 4 year of support!
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the developers do earn money. By hosting, ads, donation, etc. :3 but yeah, OP has disappointed us

primemonitor said:
It's not as if OnePlus is stopping support. They can't do anything since Qualcomm isn't going to update graphics drivers for SD800/801, which is necessary for Vulkan APIs, which in turn is necessary to pass Google CTS. No Google CTS = no more official update for those chipsets. So it's actually a consequence of Qualcomm's action.
The only way we'll get Nougat is in the form of custom ROMs by the hard work of devs. But again, just to be clear, none of the Nougat custom ROMs will have the Vulkan APIs, since it just isn't possible for 800/801 (afaik). That said, personally I don't really care about official updates since I've been running custom ROMs from the beginning, and I'm sure the good devs will bring us some Nougat love too
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The Qualcomm story is only a justification for the OEMs, because if they want, they can force Qualcomm to update the drivers.
If the developers can make a S 800/801 working with Android N (see Nexus 5), why can't do it the OEMs?
I personally care about official updates because they can't sold us fully bugged phones and let us search for the solution.
The custom roms are a hobby, something that we like doing, but most of people even know of the existance of XDA.
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meraj99 said:
the developers do earn money. By hosting, ads, donation, etc. :3 but yeah, OP has disappointed us
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Yeah but most of them can't live with that momey. They just cover some outgoings.
Yeah I first time oneplus buyer but disappointed

dani.galla said:
The Qualcomm story is only a justification for the OEMs, because if they want, they can force Qualcomm to update the drivers.
If the developers can make a S 800/801 working with Android N (see Nexus 5), why can't do it the OEMs?
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Sure, devs can get Nougat working on 800/801 but again, they will NOT support Vulkan APIs, as I said before. Any custom ROM for 800/801 devices won't support Vulkan API, to my knowledge. And that is essential for to pass CTS, and hence for official updates.
As for OEMs, I won't claim to know if they can force Qualcomm or not. Maybe they can, and maybe they even should. That would be great for everyone definitely. But regardless, I don't think the blame (if there's any) is to be pinned on OnePlus. It's Qualcomm's refusal to update graphics drivers which will force OEMs to drop support.

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The Qualcomm story is only a justification for the OEMs, because if they want, they can force Qualcomm to update the drivers.
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Not true. Many say that Adreno 3xx (the GPU on SD800/801) simply does not have hardware support for OpenGL ES 3.1. The only possible alternative is software emulation of such hardware features (which is supposedly a very difficult goal and might expose users to buggy UX and/or to bad battery life). The original problem is OpenGL ES 3.1 (mobile library) came out in 2014, but its features are from OpenGL 4.3 and 4.4 (desktop libraries from 2012 and 2013) So its Qualcomm's fault for either not bothering with updating the 800/801 firmware or for not designing their GPUs to support the current OpenGL version at the time. In fact, ARM's 2012 GPUs support OpenGL ES 3.1 and AEP (both from 2014) and their 2013 GPUs support OpenGL ES 3.2 and Vulkan (from 2015 and 2016).

This ^^^
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I don't think the news about sd 800/801 being incompatible is true, because Nexus 5 has already received a 7.0 build (alpha) and Xperia Z3 also got dev previews. Both of these are sd 800/801 devices. And also the OnePlus One:
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I looked at a Nexus 5 ROM thread today. Lots of stuff was broken. Unless QC puts out official sources, Nougat is going to be a buggy affair for anything with an 800/1 SoC.

More news related to this :
http://www.androidauthority.com/android-7-0-snapdragon-800-801-712930/
I don't get the whole thing, but looks like its possible the problem might not be related to Vulkan. I guess we need to wait for the Android Compatibility Definition Document for Nougat to really know what the actual issue could be.

http://www.androidauthority.com/android-7-0-snapdragon-800-801-712930/

apparently, it isn't the VULKAN causing the problems. There are alternative ways around this. They just want us to buy newer devices