Joying 5.1.1 vs Pumpkin 5.1 - 7" generic units - Android Head-Units

Hi knowledgeable XDA folk
I am going to purchase one of the below units - the price is close enough so as to be irrelevant, and the front panels are identical. I'm chosing this model due to the physical volume knob, rather than the other one which has + and - volume buttons.
My question is - are they the same under the covers? Is one better build quality than the other?
I'm in NZ so the country is comes from (assuming china or usa) is largely irrelevant.
It's initially for my GF's car - will be used for primarily for gps, radio, hands free calling. If it works out well I'll get one for my car too. In my car I'll be wanting to use the bluetooth music functionality, or upload a bunch of mp3s to it.
Did a bit of searching here, but almost everything I can find relates to the android 4.4 units.
http://www.autopumpkin.com/car-dvd-...tput-3g-wifi-obd2-steering-wheel-control.html
https://www.carjoying.com/vestempcp...bluetooth-dvr-obd2-mirror-link-goole-map.html

Hey. I have a radio joying, but with android 4.4. It is very good, the screen is 1024x600. Radio does not freeze and restarts. Wifi works very well. In my stereo GPS satellites it is about 8, five of them have signal 50 SNR. The antenna of the GPS I got inside the car under the board, the shaft signal should be better. Microphone for voice is quiet and you have to speak very loudly. I got a free 8GB card. You can use the Bluetooth audio, the music is very good quality. FM radio is not receiving as good as my old radio, but I now listen to Internet radio or music via Spotify or TIDAL. Generally I highly recommend this radio.

I dont have the same unit, but I do have a Joying Android 5.1, MTCD, Jeep specific, and I am more than happy with it

AaronNZ said:
Hi knowledgeable XDA folk
I am going to purchase one of the below units - the price is close enough so as to be irrelevant, and the front panels are identical. I'm chosing this model due to the physical volume knob, rather than the other one which has + and - volume buttons.
My question is - are they the same under the covers? Is one better build quality than the other?
I'm in NZ so the country is comes from (assuming china or usa) is largely irrelevant.
It's initially for my GF's car - will be used for primarily for gps, radio, hands free calling. If it works out well I'll get one for my car too. In my car I'll be wanting to use the bluetooth music functionality, or upload a bunch of mp3s to it.
Did a bit of searching here, but almost everything I can find relates to the android 4.4 units.
http://www.autopumpkin.com/car-dvd-...tput-3g-wifi-obd2-steering-wheel-control.html
https://www.carjoying.com/vestempcp...bluetooth-dvr-obd2-mirror-link-goole-map.html
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Any reason you chose that pumpkin model? I'm currently considering a fully touch one because they actually mention the manufacturer of their bluetooth and Fm chips.
I've heard lots of bad things about the Joying radio, which is why I still haven't purchased one.

I've been researching both of these as well & the no name brands & all are pretty identical.
I would find a older 4.4 model with the same specs. 5.1's are still pretty buggy while 4.4 are stable & runnin well for the most part, this is what I've read from some of the elder members here.

Roy360 said:
Any reason you chose that pumpkin model? I'm currently considering a fully touch one because they actually mention the manufacturer of their bluetooth and Fm chips.
I've heard lots of bad things about the Joying radio, which is why I still haven't purchased one.
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Went for this model because of the volume knob. I guess it's not quite as sleek as the other model, however really don't want to be looking down to find a button. It's going into an older car without any steering wheel remote or other factory integration.

Probably too late to make a difference, but I have that exact Pumpkin model. It has a few issues and I ended up fixing them myself. I've rooted the unit and done quit a bit of customization, and will likely do more. The volume knob is nice, but since I installed speed-sensitive volume, I don't use it much anymore!

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Need help picking a head unit!

Hello XDA'ers.
Just got burned buying a crappy no-name Windows headunit on Amazon and was wondering if you could help me pick a different one. I'm looking for an Android-based HU that can support Bluetooth, GPS and a backup camera. HD Radio support is a plus.
Thanks!
I am also researching for one and come across with eonon brand. You can check it out.
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Do you have a link to purchasing it?
Actually, that one looks just like the piece of junk that I purchased. I'm hoping for a headunit that I can purchase and can flash with a custom from here.
DJRepresent said:
Actually, that one looks just like the piece of junk that I purchased. I'm hoping for a headunit that I can purchase and can flash with a custom from here.
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For "Cheap Chinese" HUs, Newsmy type are the most popular here, followed by the older Huefei HUs.
I personally would (and did, but with a NEED for Android Auto) spend the extra $200-300 for a Pioneer 4100NEX with Android Auto and many other features, including US HD Radio. On EBay now for $500 shipped for refurb, or IMO better at $570 shipped brand new.
But if you need "full regular Android" to run any app, most "normal" HUs don't provide this, but maybe we'll get a ROM with full Android. Some Pioneer devices run Android under the covers and are getting a ROM now, in part to get Android Auto on devices like the older 4000NEX. I think that 4100NEX will get a ROM too, once it provides a good option for getting more than stock functionality.
The best "Cheap Chinese" HUs are stuck on Android 4.4 Kitkat at best and I doubt Newsmy/Huefei will ever get Lollipop.
These cheap HUs are also full of compromises and unless you understand and accept them, I think it's likely you'll regret getting one within 1-12 months, as you already regret what you have.
mikereidis said:
For "Cheap Chinese" HUs, Newsmy type are the most popular here, followed by the older Huefei HUs.
I personally would (and did, but with a NEED for Android Auto) spend the extra $200-300 for a Pioneer 4100NEX with Android Auto and many other features, including US HD Radio. On EBay now for $500 shipped for refurb, or IMO better at $570 shipped brand new.
But if you need "full regular Android" to run any app, most "normal" HUs don't provide this, but maybe we'll get a ROM with full Android. Some Pioneer devices run Android under the covers and are getting a ROM now, in part to get Android Auto on devices like the older 4000NEX. I think that 4100NEX will get a ROM too, once it provides a good option for getting more than stock functionality.
The best "Cheap Chinese" HUs are stuck on Android 4.4 Kitkat at best and I doubt Newsmy/Huefei will ever get Lollipop.
These cheap HUs are also full of compromises and unless you understand and accept them, I think it's likely you'll regret getting one within 1-12 months, as you already regret what you have.
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I read an Amazon.com review of one of the Chinese HUs where the guy said that the stock ROM on it was "OK," but once he flashed a custom ROM, everything worked great. He didn't provide a link to the ROM but he did say he downloaded it from XDA. So was wondering if there might be a decent head unit that I can purchase and flash and have it working well.
mikereidis said:
For "Cheap Chinese" HUs, Newsmy type are the most popular here, followed by the older Huefei HUs.
These cheap HUs are also full of compromises and unless you understand and accept them, I think it's likely you'll regret getting one within 1-12 months, as you already regret what you have.
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They are much better than you make them sound. Honestly they are very impressive for what you get for $100-$250 or so, you get a full android rooted system you can pretty much do anything with. And the quad core devices are very snappy and responsive, and the screens on the 1024x600 7" models are very clear and look great.
For the price, they are well worth it to me. The only real problem has been that the bluetooth design is not the best, and lots of people are just connecting a mic cable directly to the mic and ground pins on the bluetooth board to get around the poor internal mic issue. Other than that there is no real outstanding problem with them.
nixfu said:
They are much better than you make them sound. Honestly they are very impressive for what you get for $100-$250 or so, you get a full android rooted system you can pretty much do anything with. And the quad core devices are very snappy and responsive, and the screens on the 1024x600 7" models are very clear and look great.
For the price, they are well worth it to me. The only real problem has been that the bluetooth design is not the best, and lots of people are just connecting a mic cable directly to the mic and ground pins on the bluetooth board to get around the poor internal mic issue. Other than that there is no real outstanding problem with them.
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Which unit should I purchase then? Please post a link.
Thanks!
nixfu said:
They are much better than you make them sound. Honestly they are very impressive for what you get for $100-$250 or so, you get a full android rooted system you can pretty much do anything with.
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$100 ?
I thought the decent units, like Newsmy, started around $300 or so, and prices get higher when you need a non-generic, car-specific model.
To each their own, but I am still not a particular fan of Mediatek/Chinese chipsets. AFAIK, Mediatek still regularly violates GPL and keep more secrets than Qualcomm does, making it harder for kernel & ROM devs. Still true or no ?
Anyway, since I don't own one of the Chinese HUs, the opinions of people who own one may be more important than mine.
IMO anyone buying one should read the main threads for them for at least a few pages to get better informed.
For those who need "real Android" running on the HU, I'm recalling that the AppRadio Unchained Reloaded app seems a decent option for phone mirroring to Pioneer HUs.
I must sound like a paid Pioneer rep sometimes, LOL, but reality is that my best interests are in people running my Headunit app on tablets than buy an HU. But I only recommend that if it seems the best option for them.
I'm torn between the carjoying RK3188 and the NU3001 Carpad. Anyone have experience with both can provide a recommendation? I was reading some of the posts regarding the carjoying unit and am concerned that I need to modify the internal to get a decent microphone quality. Not sure if this needs to also happen to the newsmy unit? I have also heard that the joking crew provides great support, which is important and like the fact that they have taken the time to create lots of tutorial videos. On the nu3001 - I like that the android unit is in a separate box. I seriously can't decide...lots of pros on both units.
DJRepresent - did you make your decision yet?
Honestly. I've been both a newsmy & huifei owner... I'm not a happy camper with the newsmy and their support.
My radio was working great then started to develop random screen flickers & after a firmware update it died. Ordered a replacement Android box (as the head unit & Android box is separate on the newsmy, had to fight to order it as I didn't order my radio directly from newsmy but from a reseller... Only managed to get it as a fellow xda member was a reseller and he placed the replacement order for me) and my radio now only half works. My physical buttons on my radio (as it's a Volkswagen specific unit) no longer work.
Newsmy has left me high and dry with the issue with zero support on the issue. I've spent about 700-800canadian on this unit and I have now a half working unit...
I'm starting to think about selling off and getting a joying/huifei unit. As the one I use to own before the newsmy is now in my dad's car and it's working perfectly fine. I only got the newsmy as at the time it was the only 1024x600 unit with 2 gigs of ram...
I believe now the joying & even the winlink units have 2gig ram models with the 1024 screen.
The winlink seems to be less popular but also seems to have a representative from the company participating in the forum activity. Newsmy use to have that... seems they are no longer focused on the carpad2 more their unreleased carpad3. Not sure if joying/huifei has a representative participating but seems to have a lot more overall owners participating with the development.
One downfall I had with my huifei that the newsmy doesn't have is the canbus. The canbus didn't fully work with my car or my dad's car (my car being a 09 vw jetta my dad's being a '12 vw jetta)on the huifei I had random issues with it. I ended up replacing their canbus with another manufacture and the issues resolved.
Newsmy also seemed more focused on eye candy vs actually developing the radio more... It still has no rds support.
Also the newsmy has no sub preputs.
Hmm other then that... I think that's the end of my feedback rant. Maybe a joying user can chime in?
kwalsh24 said:
I believe now the joying & even the winlink units have 2gig ram models with the 1024 screen.
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I like my unit from carjoying.com, the prices are pretty good, and the support is actually better than I expected. But NO NONE of the more popular units(Klyde, Roadmaster, Hot Audio, Joying, etc) which are all based on the same HueFui design, all use the same RK3066/RK3166 Chipsets, and they all have 1GB Ram. The memory and cpu are all using the same plug in daughter boards that plug in to the various main boards.
Frankly I don't see the 1GB being a limitation, or that 2GB would help all that much. The quad core is what seems to be a big difference and makes the units very snappy. I know my unit I normally have Torque loggings engine stats, iGO GPS doing navigation, MediaMonkey playing MP3's, and DailyRoads recording the front camera all constantly going at the same time with zero noticeable slowdown, and the unit remains very snappy and responsive. I am not sure what else you would want to have simultaneously happening that would be better than what you can already do with the current units.
The best models you can get are quad core, 1GB ram, 16GB onboard flash, and 1024 screens. I would just make sure you get one with these specs and you will pretty much have the best currently available.
nixfu said:
I like my unit from carjoying.com, the prices are pretty good, and the support is actually better than I expected. But NO NONE of the more popular units(Klyde, Roadmaster, Hot Audio, Joying, etc) which are all based on the same HueFui design, all use the same RK3066/RK3166 Chipsets, and they all have 1GB Ram. The memory and cpu are all using the same plug in daughter boards that plug in to the various main boards.
Frankly I don't see the 1GB being a limitation, or that 2GB would help all that much. The quad core is what seems to be a big difference and makes the units very snappy. I know my unit I normally have Torque loggings engine stats, iGO GPS doing navigation, MediaMonkey playing MP3's, and DailyRoads recording the front camera all constantly going at the same time with zero noticeable slowdown, and the unit remains very snappy and responsive. I am not sure what else you would want to have simultaneously happening that would be better than what you can already do with the current units.
The best models you can get are quad core, 1GB ram, 16GB onboard flash, and 1024 screens. I would just make sure you get one with these specs and you will pretty much have the best currently available.
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Thanks for the reply! I read from a post you started a while ago regarding the carjoying unit you modified internally to address the microphone poor quality. How bad is it out the box (without modifying the internals) or is this mod a must do before installing? Is this mod to address just the integrated mic or does this also impact the external mic input? Wondering if i wire up a quality external mic if that would keep from having to modify the internals. Your usage list above looks like similar apps I would be running in addition to an occasional hands free phone call. Thanks!
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kwalsh24 said:
Honestly. I've been both a newsmy & huifei owner... I'm not a happy camper with the newsmy and their support.
My radio was working great then started to develop random screen flickers & after a firmware update it died. Ordered a replacement Android box (as the head unit & Android box is separate on the newsmy, had to fight to order it as I didn't order my radio directly from newsmy but from a reseller... Only managed to get it as a fellow xda member was a reseller and he placed the replacement order for me) and my radio now only half works. My physical buttons on my radio (as it's a Volkswagen specific unit) no longer work.
Newsmy has left me high and dry with the issue with zero support on the issue. I've spent about 700-800canadian on this unit and I have now a half working unit...
I'm starting to think about selling off and getting a joying/huifei unit. As the one I use to own before the newsmy is now in my dad's car and it's working perfectly fine. I only got the newsmy as at the time it was the only 1024x600 unit with 2 gigs of ram...
I believe now the joying & even the winlink units have 2gig ram models with the 1024 screen.
The winlink seems to be less popular but also seems to have a representative from the company participating in the forum activity. Newsmy use to have that... seems they are no longer focused on the carpad2 more their unreleased carpad3. Not sure if joying/huifei has a representative participating but seems to have a lot more overall owners participating with the development.
One downfall I had with my huifei that the newsmy doesn't have is the canbus. The canbus didn't fully work with my car or my dad's car (my car being a 09 vw jetta my dad's being a '12 vw jetta)on the huifei I had random issues with it. I ended up replacing their canbus with another manufacture and the issues resolved.
Newsmy also seemed more focused on eye candy vs actually developing the radio more... It still has no rds support.
Also the newsmy has no sub preputs.
Hmm other then that... I think that's the end of my feedback rant. Maybe a joying user can chime in?
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Thanks for the reply! This is great info. I am truly sorry for your troubles. Hope you get your issue resolved. Support/customer service is something I highly value. Now that u mentioned it...I do remember seeing newsmy frequent presence in the large dedicated nu3001 thread early on, but they phased out as I skimmed though the posts. Thanks again for providing your experiences/feedback! +2 for carjoying
Honestly I just checked out newsmy's website and they have removed most of their headunits they once sold. So I would 100% rule out newsmy.
Joying in the lead but maybe check out winlink/ownice unit. As it's the quad core with 2 gigs of ram... I myself am 100% torn
I'm slightly shocked that there hasn't been anything new on the market. Faster cpu & more ram? Kinda sad that the joying unit doesn't have 2 gigs of ram. If it did I'd be jumping ship 12 hours ago as they have a nice looking vw unit that's all touch. Including the malfunctioning buttons that my unit has...
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Honestly I just checked out newsmy's website and they have removed most of their headunits they once sold. So I would 100% rule out newsmy.
Joying in the lead but maybe check out winlink/ownice unit. As it's the quad core with 2 gigs of ram... I myself am 100% torn
I'm slightly shocked that there hasn't been anything new on the market. Faster cpu & more ram? Kinda sad that the joying unit doesn't have 2 gigs of ram. If it did I'd be jumping ship 12 hours ago as they have a nice looking vw unit that's all touch. Including the malfunctioning buttons that my unit has...
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I'm a little shocked also, but from the feedback 1 gb should be good enough. I figure the units are somewhat inexpensive and don't mind replacing it a few years down the road if it becomes an issue. I finally pulled the trigger and purchased the carjoying unit. The crew has been in frequent communication with me since I purchased it making sure everything is right with my car configuration before shipping it. I'm pleased so far with the support and do not have the unit yet Hope my positive experiences continue after I receive it. Not looking forward to doing the mic mod though

Cheap Android headunit with Parrot Audio?

Hi All,
I'm after a new headunit for my Mazda MPV 2004. I currently have a Parrot Asteroid Smart in my old car which I did like, but also had it's flaws (old version of android, low spec hardware, no physical buttons/dials). I did however love the bluetooth and voice command options.
I've since been looking for a (cheap-ish) Android unit that I can install in the Mazda and honestly I'm overwhelmed! There are so many options now compared to a few years ago when I got the Parrot. I was looking at units like these and was almost convinced to take a gamble and accept that the bluetooth calling would not be as good as the Parrot (I've owned some Eonon units before):
Eonon - http://eonon.com/Car-GPS/Android-Car-GPS/G2110F.html
Pumpkin - http://www.autopumpkin.com/car-dvd-...s-navigation-system-support-3g-wifi-obd2.html
Then I found this:
Avin - https://avinusa.com/7-universal-dou...android-multimedia-navigation-system-159.html
Which got me thinking, are there any other 'no name' units that use the Parrot bluetooth technology that anyone would recommend? Or at least have decent quality bluetooth audio otherwise and preferably voice command? Any hands on experience and reviews would be much appreciated!!
That's the only one I've found listed with parrot. I passed on it becase of the 800 x 480 resolution. Seems people like the Newsmy for Bluetooth calls and Google now works (Newsmy owners, correct me if I am wrong).
Thanks, I'll check out the Newsmy, hadn't heard of them. What did you end up going with twokidsandaphone?
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What did you end up going with twokidsandaphone?
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I actually first ordered a lower cost unit from a seller called "Umecity". I changed my mind and even though the order was officially shipped, it had not been given to DHL yet and they let me cancel, which was awesome of them. That unit has an Allwinnertech chip, not the RK3188. It was less than $300 CDN, shipped, but I was concerned about BT and radio quality (and since it was for my wife I decided to err on the side of caution). All of their units get very good reviews though, still tempted... maybe for my car.
At any rate my requirements were:
Universal 7" 2 Din
Steering wheel controls (resistive type)
Support large external drive (for FLAC files)
1024 x 600, quad core
Joying units don't support large external drives (most list 32 gb as max), and I saw quite a few complaints about the Bluetooth quality even after mic fix.
Ownice units do support the large drive, but the later posts in the thread suggest quality issues and lack of support from the seller
2nd gen Tonghai units - couldn't find one I liked, can't remember everything that took it off the list
So that only left Newsmy; seems a high quality unit with good radio reception (SiLabs chip), dual Bluetooth (one for calls, one for android), and lots of xda support.
I ordered the NR3001 this morning. Downside was it was over double the cost of the first one that I cancelled (~$600 CDN, of which $131 was shipping). Hope it's worth it! Note the CDN dollar sucks now, so not nearly as bad in US$.
Jeff
P.S. I currently have a PAS in my car - still mostly like it.
twokidsandaphone said:
I actually first ordered a lower cost unit from a seller called "Umecity". I changed my mind and even though the order was officially shipped, it had not been given to DHL yet and they let me cancel, which was awesome of them. That unit has an Allwinnertech chip, not the RK3188. It was less than $300 CDN, shipped, but I was concerned about BT and radio quality (and since it was for my wife I decided to err on the side of caution). All of their units get very good reviews though, still tempted... maybe for my car.
At any rate my requirements were:
Universal 7" 2 Din
Steering wheel controls (resistive type)
Support large external drive (for FLAC files)
1024 x 600, quad core
Joying units don't support large external drives (most list 32 gb as max), and I saw quite a few complaints about the Bluetooth quality even after mic fix.
Ownice units do support the large drive, but the later posts in the thread suggest quality issues and lack of support from the seller
2nd gen Tonghai units - couldn't find one I liked, can't remember everything that took it off the list
So that only left Newsmy; seems a high quality unit with good radio reception (SiLabs chip), dual Bluetooth (one for calls, one for android), and lots of xda support.
I ordered the NR3001 this morning. Downside was it was over double the cost of the first one that I cancelled (~$600 CDN, of which $131 was shipping). Hope it's worth it! Note the CDN dollar sucks now, so not nearly as bad in US$.
Jeff
P.S. I currently have a PAS in my car - still mostly like it.
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Thanks for the info Jeff, when your unit arrives and is installed I'd love to hear your thoughts and experiences.
This new unit will also be for my wife's car, she has basically the same requirements as you except there is no need for large storage expansion, ipod compatibility and a physical dial for volume (she hates the touch screen volume of the PAS, although if steering wheel controls work I wouldn't think that would be an issue, just have no idea how to wire them up...)
Cost is also an issue, I'm in Australia so those cheap US prices get high really quick for Australia!
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I actually first ordered a lower cost unit from a seller called "Umecity".
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Hi Jeff,
I had a google and couldn't find this unit. Can you send me a link for comparison, and perhaps to the reviews too?
Thanks!
I couldn't find it on Google either. The reviews are just those of the customers of the seller. They sell the same unit in a few different vehicle specific versions. Their universal version is linked below. No buttons or knobs though...
In Dash Universal Quad Core 2 Din Android 4.4 Car Audio Stereo GPS 3G Wifi Bluetooth Radio (No) CD Player automotivo
http://s.aliexpress.com/yyqIfqi6
(from AliExpress Android)
Jeff
P.S. The Newsmy arrived today. In the middle of a bathroom reno so will be a little while before I can try it out.
twokidsandaphone said:
I couldn't find it on Google either. The reviews are just those of the customers of the seller. They sell the same unit in a few different vehicle specific versions. Their universal version is linked below. No buttons or knobs though...
In Dash Universal Quad Core 2 Din Android 4.4 Car Audio Stereo GPS 3G Wifi Bluetooth Radio (No) CD Player automotivo
http://s.aliexpress.com/yyqIfqi6
(from AliExpress Android)
Jeff
P.S. The Newsmy arrived today. In the middle of a bathroom reno so will be a little while before I can try it out.
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Thanks for the link and looking forward to the newsmy review when you get around to it!
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Just so you know, Pumpkin have just released a new product that uses a Parrot module, the links below
http://www.autopumpkin.com/pumpkin-...t-dab-mirrorlink-aux-output-obd2-wifi-3g.html
Regs
I am torn between the Pumpkin with Parrot Bluetooth and the Newsmy NR-3001.
Pumpkin works out cheaper because of Free Shipping vs AUD$133 for the Newsmy, but the Newsmy's already active ROM development is appealing.
Decisions, decisions........
I'm curious about the Pumpkin unit now too, I have heard reasonable things about Pumpkin in the past when they were WinCE units. I still haven't decided on anything for the wife's car yet but I need to soon. When I get something I'll be sure to post a review for anyone else in future.
I'd be interested in what everyone else here chooses and their experiences with their chosen unit too.
Look forward to hearing your thoughts Glen.
Having read through some of the Newsmy thread and the xdAuto ROM thread, I am leaning towards the Newsmy.
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So in the end I went with price above all and purchased an Eonon G2110F Android headunit. I have to say I have been quite happy with the unit, it is much more responsive than the Parrot Asteroid Smart and runs apps natively, without any drop in audio quality like the smart. One issue which was sort of expected, is the sub-par bluetooth microphone quality. I expected the quality to not be too great, especially compared to the Parrot Smart, but it is so bad that most of the time I have to tell my wife to call me when she gets home because I can't hear her!
I am going to try to find an aftermarket bluetooth microphone to try instead, does anyone recommend anything that has good quality for a unit like this one?
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*UPDATE*
So in the end I went with price above all and purchased an Eonon G2110F Android headunit. I have to say I have been quite happy with the unit, it is much more responsive than the Parrot Asteroid Smart and runs apps natively, without any drop in audio quality like the smart. One issue which was sort of expected, is the sub-par bluetooth microphone quality. I expected the quality to not be too great, especially compared to the Parrot Smart, but it is so bad that most of the time I have to tell my wife to call me when she gets home because I can't hear her!
I am going to try to find an aftermarket bluetooth microphone to try instead, does anyone recommend anything that has good quality for a unit like this one?
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Haven't you read about the BT problems we all have? The only way to fix it is the mod of the motherboard.
halloj said:
Haven't you read about the BT problems we all have? The only way to fix it is the mod of the motherboard.
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I wasn't aware of the Bluetooth issues, is it just with the eonon unit or all units with a particular chipset?
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I wasn't aware of the Bluetooth issues, is it just with the eonon unit or all units with a particular chipset?
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Basically all units that I'm aware of. Even the new Pumpkin claiming Parrot BT suffers from the same problem. I've have the new Pumpkin too.
The main problem is the two microphones (internal-external) are connected in parallel. I've done the mod on my four units and after that it's okay.
You still need a better mic since the Chinese mic is crap. I'm using a Parrot mic and the mod.
halloj said:
Basically all units that I'm aware of. Even the new Pumpkin claiming Parrot BT suffers from the same problem. I've have the new Pumpkin too.
The main problem is the two microphones (internal-external) are connected in parallel. I've done the mod on my four units and after that it's okay.
You still need a better mic since the Chinese mic is crap. I'm using a Parrot mic and the mod.
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Thanks for the info, could you be so kind as to link to the mod? Thanks!
twokidsandaphone said:
I actually first ordered a lower cost unit from a seller called "Umecity". I changed my mind and even though the order was officially shipped, it had not been given to DHL yet and they let me cancel, which was awesome of them. That unit has an Allwinnertech chip, not the RK3188. It was less than $300 CDN, shipped, but I was concerned about BT and radio quality (and since it was for my wife I decided to err on the side of caution). All of their units get very good reviews though, still tempted... maybe for my car.
At any rate my requirements were:
Universal 7" 2 Din
Steering wheel controls (resistive type)
Support large external drive (for FLAC files)
1024 x 600, quad core
Joying units don't support large external drives (most list 32 gb as max), and I saw quite a few complaints about the Bluetooth quality even after mic fix.
Ownice units do support the large drive, but the later posts in the thread suggest quality issues and lack of support from the seller
2nd gen Tonghai units - couldn't find one I liked, can't remember everything that took it off the list
So that only left Newsmy; seems a high quality unit with good radio reception (SiLabs chip), dual Bluetooth (one for calls, one for android), and lots of xda support.
I ordered the NR3001 this morning. Downside was it was over double the cost of the first one that I cancelled (~$600 CDN, of which $131 was shipping). Hope it's worth it! Note the CDN dollar sucks now, so not nearly as bad in US$.
Jeff
P.S. I currently have a PAS in my car - still mostly like it.
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Hi Jeff, just curious about your experience with the Newsmy after using it for a while? Whilst I like the Eonon generally, the bluetooth call issues and their lack of support has been a deal breaker, and I'm ready to replace it already!
Zelig said:
I am torn between the Pumpkin with Parrot Bluetooth and the Newsmy NR-3001.
Pumpkin works out cheaper because of Free Shipping vs AUD$133 for the Newsmy, but the Newsmy's already active ROM development is appealing.
Decisions, decisions........
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Hi Zelig, did you end up ordering a unit? What were your experiences?
halloj said:
Basically all units that I'm aware of. Even the new Pumpkin claiming Parrot BT suffers from the same problem. I've have the new Pumpkin too.
The main problem is the two microphones (internal-external) are connected in parallel. I've done the mod on my four units and after that it's okay.
You still need a better mic since the Chinese mic is crap. I'm using a Parrot mic and the mod.
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Hi halloj, Eonon sent me this link to a video replacing the internal mic - https://drive.google.com/a/eonon.com/file/d/0B4MwM-4-7u6TbkxkcnByN0thMjA/view?usp=drive_web
I'm wondering if I removed the mic completely if it would default to the external mic, or if simply desoldering it would not be enough? Perhaps replacing it with a better quality mic like the video would be sufficient? Any thoughts, you seem to have done this a few times!
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Hi Jeff, just curious about your experience with the Newsmy after using it for a while? Whilst I like the Eonon generally, the bluetooth call issues and their lack of support has been a deal breaker, and I'm ready to replace it already!
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I can say that I am pretty happy with the Newsmy. I installed xdAuto on it (source code for the Newsmy leaked and XDA developers built a great ROM). With xdAuto the user interface is pretty good; there are a set of icons along the bottom of the screen that allow you to switch quickly between different apps without first going to the launcher home screen. Audio focus works properly, meaning that when you, say, start a song on Spotify, the audio from the radio app (or whatever other source) stops.
I find the sound quality quite good even without equalizer running (xdAuto has viper included) . There are occasional background noises (most apparent with silent sections of a track when at a light) but practically speaking they are not noticeable when driving.
the Bluetooth for hands free calling while not nearly as good as the Parrot is quite useable.
OBD2 Bluetooth reader/Torque works flawlessly.
Steering wheel controls work on every app I've used which can be an issue with other units.
Radio reception is good, but the radio app does not have RDS implemented. Apparently the silabs tuner chip is of high quality and has RDS support but the Newsmy programmers/subcontractors could not figure out how to implement it. XDA developers offered to help but were given the run around with promises of MCU source code that was never provided.
I can use Google Now voice commands to start Spotify, navigation, make calls, etc. Again not as good as the voice recognition implementation on the Parrot in terms of accuracy but a reasonable success rate.
Complaints I or other users have had:
Google maps is choppy when starting to navigate. I mostly use Waze which works very well.
Screen washes out in direct sun.
Audio control is abysmal. No control over sub out level or crossover. No native eq. All you get is a screen for balance/fade that is implemented by providing four separate volume controls for FL/FR/RL/RR.
USB DVR camera kills internal/external mics for Android (not Bluetooth calls), not an issue if you don't need/want to run a dashcam or don't care about voice commands
USB devices do not go into standby properly. If you are short of boring material to read you can see my posts on the xdAuto thread on it. This problem led to my music app often rescanning my large music collection when coming out of standby. I found a work around by modifying a USB hub to provide power all the time.
Don't expect much/any support from Newsmy on technical or warranty issues, but not many have had quality issues, and it always boots in both the extreme heat and bitter cold of Canadian summers/winters. I've had the unit apart and the PC board quality/assembly seems better than pics I've see of other Chinese units.
With all those pros/cons I did decide to buy two NR3001s and don't regret it. They are not perfect but I still believe the best option there is from my reading here on XDA. It might be that if I was buying now/next couple of months I might try the indash.net octacore but it seems there are still issues to work out, maybe wait and see..

Looking for a unit for a 06 Jetta tdi

This is what I've found so far:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/282042133528
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/281723596552
Are they any good? The cheaper one doesn't mention the OS, while the more expensive one is stuck on 4.4.4 .
The seller also charges for map updates, so I'm curious as to what format it uses.
Any other brands I should consider? I'm worried that these Chinese units might get damaged during the summer. I keep my car outdoors, so it does get pretty hot.
I'm in Canada, so shipping is expensive (unless its an amazing deal, then I'll just drive over and install in the states)
TIA
The cheaper one is using Windows CE 6.0. It says so in the description. I'm no big fan of WinBlows, and I doubt there's a custom ROM for it.
The more expensive one is Android 4.4.4, but the thing I find disconcerting about it is the CPU says AC8722 CPU, of which I can't find any information on. If that isn't really a RockChip CPU, you probably won't be able to put a custom ROM on there.
The seller also charges for map updates, so I'm curious as to what format it uses.
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This sounds scam-y to me. With any decent android navigation app, you ought to be able to get map updates for free over the play store.
Any other brands I should consider?
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Here’s a more expensive Joying car radio, with your choice of android 4.4 or android 5.1: https://www.amazon.com/1024x600-Resolution-Navigation-Capacitive-bluetooth/dp/B00YEHHCX8/
You’d be able to get a custom ROM for this, which means you to have ad blocking built into the system, which means he wouldn’t be staring advertisements while on the road. The screen resolution is also very good.
I'm worried that these Chinese units might get damaged during the summer. I keep my car outdoors, so it does get pretty hot.
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I’d suggest the above before some of these no-name Chinese models which you may or may not be able to get service for. As I found out the hard way in life, the “cheapest” product is not the least expensive in the long run.
I'm in Canada, so shipping is expensive (unless its an amazing deal, then I'll just drive over and install in the states)
TIA
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Amazon is pretty decent on shipping charges, although I’m not in Canada so I cannot speak to well for that.
Enjoy!
CaptShaft said:
Here’s a more expensive Joying car radio, with your choice of android 4.4 or android 5.1: https://www.amazon.com/1024x600-Resolution-Navigation-Capacitive-bluetooth/dp/B00YEHHCX8/
You’d be able to get a custom ROM for this, which means you to have ad blocking built into the system, which means he wouldn’t be staring advertisements while on the road. The screen resolution is also very good
Enjoy!
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Is the f/w difference the only thing separating the two radios?Since I can mod it, there's no point in getting the 5.0 right?
The title mentions parking sensor so I'm guessing that's the same as a backup cam? (doesn't look like it's included so I want to double check before I order one)
None of the radios seem to mention this, but does the OS automatically switch to camera view when you shift your car into reverse?
Many of the reviewers complained about no Bluetooth meta data, Bluetooth and radio static, glare (is there a matte screen protector? ), white noise when the unit is on but not doing anything, and constant google play services errors
Most of this can be fixed with a custom rom, but the radio static, and Bluetooth noise?
Roy360 said:
Is the f/w difference the only thing separating the two radios? Since I can mod it, there's no point in getting the 5.0 right?
Both of the head units listed in that Amazon listing are the newer, faster RK3188 CPU, and the screen resolution is the same for both of them, so overall I would say they are quite identical.
All of the stereos at this link have roughly the same specifications for CPU, with the only difference being operating system. https://www.carjoying.com/quad-core-android-car-radio/quad-core-vw-android-car-radio.html
However, when you buy one, the older android 4.4.4 may be a MTCB and the Android 5.1 may be a MTCD type, which has slightly newer motherboard and some connections. You won’t know for sure until you buy one, but you may do well to check the Joying forum you find on their homepage.
Roy360 said:
The title mentions parking sensor so I'm guessing that's the same as a backup cam? (doesn't look like it's included so I want to double check before I order one) ?
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I presume “parking sensor” to be a bad translation for backup camera. I can’t find any information on that there.
However, if you look here: http://www.eonon.com/Car-GPS/Other-GPS-Navigation/GM5153.html it mentions backup sensor integration, with the caveat that you must have a vehicle which already has a backup sensor built into the car. This also requires can bus integration between the radio and the car, so you will need a can bus connector.
If you don’t have a backup sensor built into your car, you may be out of luck.
If you don’t have a backup camera and you want one installed, I would suggest this: https://www.amazon.com/Esky-Viewing-Universal-License-Camera/dp/B00GMC8QXI/
I have two of these on two different vehicles, the mounting of them keeps it centered on the back of the vehicle, and it works well in low light conditions. In other words, it has the capability of infrared pickups on the camera sensor.
As I found out the hard way, you can pretty much forget integration with an OEM backup camera that is already on your vehicle, if it is a can bus camera. If it is a regular analog camera, you may be able to get a custom wiring harness to integrate with it.
Otherwise, you’re better off simply installing a new backup camera like I listed above. It’s cheaper that way than to get a digital signal harness.
Roy360 said:
None of the radios seem to mention this, but does the OS automatically switch to camera view when you shift your car into reverse? ?
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Yes, provided you connect the proper wire on the harness to the wire on your car that signals when you shift into reverse. Even if the radio is off, after a second or two the screen should come on and you should see the rear view through your rearview camera.
Roy360 said:
Many of the reviewers complained about no Bluetooth meta data, Bluetooth and radio static, glare (is there a matte screen protector? ), white noise when the unit is on but not doing anything, and constant google play services errors ?
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Double check on the Joying forum. See what people say there.
Also, if you want something perhaps a little better, I would suggest this: http://www.autopumpkin.com/car-dvd-...ii-3g-wifi-usb-sd-steering-wheel-control.html
This is the same good resolution which we see on the Joying units, but it has a faster PX3 CPU. I don’t think there is anything in the way of a custom ROM for PX3 CPU’s right now, but if you wait a bit it may become available. It depends on what your priorities are.
Roy360 said:
Most of this can be fixed with a custom rom, but the radio static, and Bluetooth noise?
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Edit: These radios ship with a clear screen protector on them. Take that off and the glare goes down a bit. Otherwise, you are limited to putting a window tint visor and/or window tinting on your car to cut down incoming light. It works.
Look at the pumpkin models above, the Eonon models as well, and compare and contrast with these below.
http://www.erisinwholesale.com/special-car-dvd/vw/
Then check reviews here on this forum and on the forums for those manufacturers (or resellers, really) to see if you can get an idea as to which models have the least amount of problems. That’s what I did over the course of a few weeks before a selected the radio I currently have. Aside from a few quirks it is okay.
(Don’t forget to hit the thanks button. Thanks! )
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Roy360 said:
Is the f/w difference the only thing separating the two radios? Since I can mod it, there's no point in getting the 5.0 right?
Both of the head units listed in that Amazon listing are the newer, faster RK3188 CPU, and the screen resolution is the same for both of them, so overall I would say they are quite identical.
All of the stereos at this link have roughly the same specifications for CPU, with the only difference being operating system. https://www.carjoying.com/quad-core-android-car-radio/quad-core-vw-android-car-radio.html
However, when you buy one, the older android 4.4.4 may be a MTCB and the Android 5.1 may be a MTCD type, which has slightly newer motherboard and some connections. You won’t know for sure until you buy one, but you may do well to check the Joying forum you find on their homepage.
I presume “parking sensor” to be a bad translation for backup camera. I can’t find any information on that there.
However, if you look here: http://www.eonon.com/Car-GPS/Other-GPS-Navigation/GM5153.html it mentions backup sensor integration, with the caveat that you must have a vehicle which already has a backup sensor built into the car. This also requires can bus integration between the radio and the car, so you will need a can bus connector.
If you don’t have a backup sensor built into your car, you may be out of luck.
If you don’t have a backup camera and you want one installed, I would suggest this: https://www.amazon.com/Esky-Viewing-Universal-License-Camera/dp/B00GMC8QXI/
I have two of these on two different vehicles, the mounting of them keeps it centered on the back of the vehicle, and it works well in low light conditions. In other words, it has the capability of infrared pickups on the camera sensor.
As I found out the hard way, you can pretty much forget integration with an OEM backup camera that is already on your vehicle, if it is a can bus camera. If it is a regular analog camera, you may be able to get a custom wiring harness to integrate with it.
Otherwise, you’re better off simply installing a new backup camera like I listed above. It’s cheaper that way than to get a digital signal harness.
Yes, provided you connect the proper wire on the harness to the wire on your car that signals when you shift into reverse. Even if the radio is off, after a second or two the screen should come on and you should see the rear view through your rearview camera.
Double check on the Joying forum. See what people say there.
Also, if you want something perhaps a little better, I would suggest this: http://www.autopumpkin.com/car-dvd-...ii-3g-wifi-usb-sd-steering-wheel-control.html
This is the same good resolution which we see on the Joying units, but it has a faster PX3 CPU. I don’t think there is anything in the way of a custom ROM for PX3 CPU’s right now, but if you wait a bit it may become available. It depends on what your priorities are.
Edit: These radios ship with a clear screen protector on them. Take that off and the glare goes down a bit. Otherwise, you are limited to putting a window tint visor and/or window tinting on your car to cut down incoming light. It works.
Look at the pumpkin models above, the Eonon models as well, and compare and contrast with these below.
http://www.erisinwholesale.com/special-car-dvd/vw/
Then check reviews here on this forum and on the forums for those manufacturers (or resellers, really) to see if you can get an idea as to which models have the least amount of problems. That’s what I did over the course of a few weeks before a selected the radio I currently have. Aside from a few quirks it is okay.
(Don’t forget to hit the thanks button. Thanks! )
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Well I did some research and found that Parking sensor != backup camera. They are just proximity sensors you put around the car. Doesn't the canbus adapter come with the radio?
I'm looking at this one right now:
http://www.autopumpkin.com/pumpkin-...link-obd2-wifi-3g-steering-wheel-control.html
It mentions 'powerful' parrot fc6000tn blue tooth adapter, but I can find anything about a2dp.
They also advertise the 'ultimate' radio chip:nxp tef6686, which again, I can't find anything on
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Roy360 said:
Well I did some research and found that Parking sensor != backup camera. They are just proximity sensors you put around the car. Doesn't the canbus adapter come with the radio?
I'm looking at this one right now:
http://www.autopumpkin.com/pumpkin-...link-obd2-wifi-3g-steering-wheel-control.html
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That one does indeed have a canbus adapter, so you can run off and buy that one. It may require some some extra setup steps in the System Settings, but that's about it.
Roy360 said:
It mentions 'powerful' parrot fc6000tn blue tooth adapter, but I can find anything about a2dp.
They also advertise the 'ultimate' radio chip:nxp tef6686, which again, I can't find anything on
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Unfortunately I can't comment on those since I can't find anything on them either. Bluetooth on these units works and sounds good, and mates up okay with CyanogenMod. Radio sounds good as well, although I don't use it. The Malaysk ROM comes with PC Radio app built in, so you can stream music from anywhere on the internet; it's like a free version of Sirius satellite radio.
I'd suggest avoiding a radio which has no knob, only touch-screen or buttons, as these are less ergonomic and require more time to work than a radio with a knob. You also have to take your eyes off the road to look at where you are touching on the screen, (leaving aside steering wheel radio switches.)
It's your call.
CaptShaft said:
The cheaper one is using Windows CE 6.0. It says so in the description. I'm no big fan of WinBlows, and I doubt there's a custom ROM for it.
The more expensive one is Android 4.4.4, but the thing I find disconcerting about it is the CPU says AC8722 CPU, of which I can't find any information on. If that isn't really a RockChip CPU, you probably won't be able to put a custom ROM on there.
This sounds scam-y to me. With any decent android navigation app, you ought to be able to get map updates for free over the play store.
Here’s a more expensive Joying car radio, with your choice of android 4.4 or android 5.1: https://www.amazon.com/1024x600-Resolution-Navigation-Capacitive-bluetooth/dp/B00YEHHCX8/
You’d be able to get a custom ROM for this, which means you to have ad blocking built into the system, which means he wouldn’t be staring advertisements while on the road. The screen resolution is also very good.
I’d suggest the above before some of these no-name Chinese models which you may or may not be able to get service for. As I found out the hard way in life, the “cheapest” product is not the least expensive in the long run.
Amazon is pretty decent on shipping charges, although I’m not in Canada so I cannot speak to well for that.
Enjoy!
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CaptShaft said:
That one does indeed have a canbus adapter, so you can run off and buy that one. It may require some some extra setup steps in the System Settings, but that's about it.
Unfortunately I can't comment on those since I can't find anything on them either. Bluetooth on these units works and sounds good, and mates up okay with CyanogenMod. Radio sounds good as well, although I don't use it. The Malaysk ROM comes with PC Radio app built in, so you can stream music from anywhere on the internet; it's like a free version of Sirius satellite radio.
I'd suggest avoiding a radio which has no knob, only touch-screen or buttons, as these are less ergonomic and require more time to work than a radio with a knob. You also have to take your eyes off the road to look at where you are touching on the screen, (leaving aside steering wheel radio switches.)
It's your call.
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No , you're right about the knob. Can't believe I overlooked that.
Unfortunately all the other models with knows don't use the parrot bluetooth ic or the 'ultimate' radio ic.
Maybe I'll just get the joying. Does your support stereo over bluetooth? I heard from some other people that the joying only streams mono audio
Roy360 said:
No , you're right about the knob. Can't believe I overlooked that.
Unfortunately all the other models with knows don't use the parrot bluetooth ic or the 'ultimate' radio ic.
Maybe I'll just get the joying. Does your support stereo over bluetooth? I heard from some other people that the joying only streams mono audio
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I just went out and played a particular song over Bluetooth that has some high-frequency “rimshot” affects that alternate between the left and right channels. (This is the song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HPs1mthogM )
I’m clearly hearing the left and right channels and stereo, not Mono. However, I do not own a Joying radio, I have a Pumpkin head unit, so I cannot speak for the joying.
Hope this helps.
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I just went out and played a particular song over Bluetooth that has some high-frequency “rimshot” affects that alternate between the left and right channels. (This is the song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HPs1mthogM )
I’m clearly hearing the left and right channels and stereo, not Mono. However, I do not own a Joying radio, I have a Pumpkin head unit, so I cannot speak for the joying.
Hope this helps.
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I asked specifically about the Joying, because that's what I heard. 4.4.4 doesn't have metadata, while 5.1 is mono.
Where did you get your pumpkin? I'm a little worried about buying from Chinese websites. With amazon I can just return the item.
Roy360 said:
This is what I've found so far:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/282042133528
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/281723596552
Are they any good? The cheaper one doesn't mention the OS, while the more expensive one is stuck on 4.4.4 .
The seller also charges for map updates, so I'm curious as to what format it uses.
Any other brands I should consider? I'm worried that these Chinese units might get damaged during the summer. I keep my car outdoors, so it does get pretty hot.
I'm in Canada, so shipping is expensive (unless its an amazing deal, then I'll just drive over and install in the states)
TIA
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I have a Chinese unit and used it in summer while car is parked outdoor, have not had any "damage" thankfully. Entire unit with shipping will cost around 400 CDN on most units from China plus there could be $30 for DHL. Not sure how much it will be from USA but we pay Tax on items coming from states.
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Where did you get your pumpkin? I'm a little worried about buying from Chinese websites. With amazon I can just return the item.
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Amazon. If I had any issues with it at all, I would have simply boxed it back up and sent it back, no worries.
Ali Express is only to be used for cheap products that you can afford to dispose of if they don't work, like some clothes or cheap USB cables. I'd never consider buying a phone, tablet, computer, set-top box or even a stereo. The logistics and other headaches surrounding refunds are too numerous to consider.

HU for mercedes W245

Hello,
Long time reader but here's first post
I plan to buy an android head unit for my car.
I need your help to choose a model that feet my needs.
My car is 2011 mercedes B class (W245). It's actually equiped with an Alpine INE S900R unit.
I'm sick of it because of it's poor fm reception, poor gps reception and interface and moreover the crapy quality of hands free bluetooth with no possibility to stream music.
I look for a head unit that fits in my car.
I read that i have not much to expect from fm reception and functions. In my alpine unit rds, af and ta doesn't work well.
I think i will go for 2Gb ram unit.
I have the choice between units with 7" screen, hard buttons and a look like an original command ntg. On the other hand i can have 9" units with soft buttons.
As i don't plan to watch videos and don't need a dvd or cd player in my car is a 9" screen a big improvement ?
Of course i want to have steering wheel control, gps, wifi, an entry for a reverse cam.
I'm in france so i think i don't really need dab+ as our radio stations don't seem to be in a hurry to use it.
I've read bad comments about mtcd_kgl, but it seems to be the most common platform to find units which fits in mercedes cars.
Thank you in advance for your advices.
I'm in the same boat as you, since I drive a Sprinter (W906), which uses the same unit as for the W245.
I had a MTCD KGL 7" unit for this car before. All I can say is stay away from KGL (like the 9" screen unit your referring to https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/HD-9...4.48010108.5.2.KL6ja5&&scm=1007.12783.72505.0). The quality of the finish was terrible and trying to contact KGL in order to solve things in a mature way was simply fruitless because they cut off the conversation. Apart from that, the unit your referring to is still a MTCD-unit. By now, the general consensus on XDA regarding this platform is to avoid it. Malasyk did great things in trying to improve the firmware, but in the end there where too many bugs and limitations on hardware level that couldn't be overcome.
So for now I think the only alternative seems to be the Ownice C500-version with the 7" screen and the hardware buttons. Despite several bugs, to me it seems to be quite good and think of ordering one in the coming days.
Interested to hear your opinions on any other options.
Thank you for your answer.
The C500 is not an option for me as it seems to have an awful FM section with no support of rds functions.
Having spent hours to read the forum and search on the net I think that there might be only one option: finding a mtcc_kld unit which fits in my dash.
Kld units seem to be sold by pumpkin. The problem is to be sure to have one kld.
Chinese sellers would tell you anything to sell their product.
It's a shame I'd rather have A big screen and 2Gb ram.
The Chinese sellers are awful indeed, they will try to scam you into anything. However, Aliexpress does seem to be more strict in enforcing the money-back policy in case you specifically asked about a feature up-front and were given a positive reply by the seller.
Just ask for a screenshot of the system specs and make it clear that you will not accept something else. Problem is however: what do you do if they send you something else anyway? Taxes and return shipping will be your loss anyway and the guy who has bad intentions knows that.
I don't know what specs the pumpkin model has you're talking about. I would never go for a 1gb model anymore, just too damn slow.
You are probably right. I'll wait till I find a suitable 2Gb model
If you really want to get a KLD unit... nothing easier than that.
Pumpkin is just a reseller for a lot of different manufacturers and you mostly don´t exactly know what you buy.
Go to the factory itself. Get in contact with them by chat and tell them your wishes,
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Help : Android 2DIN HU with good sound quality?

I konw the title of this thread is a bit general, but I've read a few threads here and now I'm even more confused than before
First of all, hello to everyone here, I've been a reader of this forum for a while, but now I've decided to register, mostly because I need help with the matter in the thread title; I'm absolutely new to Android HUs and everyone I ask has a different opinion. My previous sound system consisted of a Pioneer DEH80PRS HU, Audison LRx 4.300 amp, Helix Deep Blue 12" sub in factory sealed box, and a pair of Audison 5x7 front speakers; the HU was an overkill for the rest of the system, but I got it from a friend that had somewhat of an SQ setup and I've heard what this HU is capable of. Now, I bought a new(er) car, 2007 Kia Ceed (better than my ex 1999 Mazda 323 Sedan), and the HU is 2DIN. I've thought about putting the Pioneer in (as I'm more than happy with its capabilities) but it would look somewhat small and silly in this interior. And if I'm going the 2DIN route I might as well go with an Android HU, for its versatility and let's be open about this, price (compared to brand name solutions). And that's where my problems start.
Since I'm new to the whole market there currently seems to be a wave of DSP units, but I've read through the DSP unit thread and there seems to be no good enough reason for me to buy any of these "DSP" units as the benefits are not that big; the sound control is an ok thing (also mangeable via an app), but everyone seems to talk about how louder it is - I don't really need loudness, I'd like to have something with a good integrated amp that gives out a good signal, it doesn't have to be at a level of my previous HU, but I'd really like it to be above the factory HU (which surprised me with its sound capabilities, but I guess that's because my 2007 car has the newest factory sound system I've had). Also, I noticed quite some people talk about sub outputs not working on some of these HUs, I'd really like to have that working so I could connect the sub out to my amp, are those problems connected to a specific manufacturer or is it just random failures?
The second thing, as this is predominantly chinese manufacturers teritory there are LOTS of them, althoug a few brands stick out. Out of those most people I've talked to tend to have Joying or Eonon, or as of recently Xtrons; Joying is out of the game for me, as of three people I know that have them all three ended up with faulty ones. I was first looking at Eonon GA2171S (because of the DSP), but I can't find any reviews or user experiences, nor can I find the specifications of the amp and/or DSP chip. Other Eonons and Xtrons look pretty similar to me, the specs and the looks, and I'd be happy to get one of them.
And this is where You come in
I need Your reccomendations, preferably based on personal experience, for a new 2DIN Android HU. My priorities are in this order :
- up to 7" screen that fits 2DIN (no overhanging 10" screens as it would look weird to say the least)
- good amp / sound output
- up to date hardware and software (Oreo, 4GB RAM, etc...)
- availability from EU (I'm from Croatia)
- moddability of software (custom roms)
- possibility of connecting factory steering wheel controls
As I've said, Eonons and Xtrons are what I looked at based on reccomendations (and avaliability from EU), but You're free to reccomend something else, I'm open to any suggestions as this is uncharted territory for me.
Tnx to everyone in advance :highfive:
I have 3 different units right now, Ownice, Eonon, and a no name generic. All three of them sound about the same to me, all are amplified with Pioneer or MTX.
I think you're better off just deciding based on features and interfaces you'll need (such as an SD slot or multi USB) and expect bugs cause they all have them
I also have 2 4 gig ram units now and I dont think they are any faster than the 2gb units i have.
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