This is what I've found so far:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/282042133528
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/281723596552
Are they any good? The cheaper one doesn't mention the OS, while the more expensive one is stuck on 4.4.4 .
The seller also charges for map updates, so I'm curious as to what format it uses.
Any other brands I should consider? I'm worried that these Chinese units might get damaged during the summer. I keep my car outdoors, so it does get pretty hot.
I'm in Canada, so shipping is expensive (unless its an amazing deal, then I'll just drive over and install in the states)
TIA
The cheaper one is using Windows CE 6.0. It says so in the description. I'm no big fan of WinBlows, and I doubt there's a custom ROM for it.
The more expensive one is Android 4.4.4, but the thing I find disconcerting about it is the CPU says AC8722 CPU, of which I can't find any information on. If that isn't really a RockChip CPU, you probably won't be able to put a custom ROM on there.
The seller also charges for map updates, so I'm curious as to what format it uses.
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This sounds scam-y to me. With any decent android navigation app, you ought to be able to get map updates for free over the play store.
Any other brands I should consider?
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Here’s a more expensive Joying car radio, with your choice of android 4.4 or android 5.1: https://www.amazon.com/1024x600-Resolution-Navigation-Capacitive-bluetooth/dp/B00YEHHCX8/
You’d be able to get a custom ROM for this, which means you to have ad blocking built into the system, which means he wouldn’t be staring advertisements while on the road. The screen resolution is also very good.
I'm worried that these Chinese units might get damaged during the summer. I keep my car outdoors, so it does get pretty hot.
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I’d suggest the above before some of these no-name Chinese models which you may or may not be able to get service for. As I found out the hard way in life, the “cheapest” product is not the least expensive in the long run.
I'm in Canada, so shipping is expensive (unless its an amazing deal, then I'll just drive over and install in the states)
TIA
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Amazon is pretty decent on shipping charges, although I’m not in Canada so I cannot speak to well for that.
Enjoy!
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Here’s a more expensive Joying car radio, with your choice of android 4.4 or android 5.1: https://www.amazon.com/1024x600-Resolution-Navigation-Capacitive-bluetooth/dp/B00YEHHCX8/
You’d be able to get a custom ROM for this, which means you to have ad blocking built into the system, which means he wouldn’t be staring advertisements while on the road. The screen resolution is also very good
Enjoy!
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Is the f/w difference the only thing separating the two radios?Since I can mod it, there's no point in getting the 5.0 right?
The title mentions parking sensor so I'm guessing that's the same as a backup cam? (doesn't look like it's included so I want to double check before I order one)
None of the radios seem to mention this, but does the OS automatically switch to camera view when you shift your car into reverse?
Many of the reviewers complained about no Bluetooth meta data, Bluetooth and radio static, glare (is there a matte screen protector? ), white noise when the unit is on but not doing anything, and constant google play services errors
Most of this can be fixed with a custom rom, but the radio static, and Bluetooth noise?
Roy360 said:
Is the f/w difference the only thing separating the two radios? Since I can mod it, there's no point in getting the 5.0 right?
Both of the head units listed in that Amazon listing are the newer, faster RK3188 CPU, and the screen resolution is the same for both of them, so overall I would say they are quite identical.
All of the stereos at this link have roughly the same specifications for CPU, with the only difference being operating system. https://www.carjoying.com/quad-core-android-car-radio/quad-core-vw-android-car-radio.html
However, when you buy one, the older android 4.4.4 may be a MTCB and the Android 5.1 may be a MTCD type, which has slightly newer motherboard and some connections. You won’t know for sure until you buy one, but you may do well to check the Joying forum you find on their homepage.
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The title mentions parking sensor so I'm guessing that's the same as a backup cam? (doesn't look like it's included so I want to double check before I order one) ?
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I presume “parking sensor” to be a bad translation for backup camera. I can’t find any information on that there.
However, if you look here: http://www.eonon.com/Car-GPS/Other-GPS-Navigation/GM5153.html it mentions backup sensor integration, with the caveat that you must have a vehicle which already has a backup sensor built into the car. This also requires can bus integration between the radio and the car, so you will need a can bus connector.
If you don’t have a backup sensor built into your car, you may be out of luck.
If you don’t have a backup camera and you want one installed, I would suggest this: https://www.amazon.com/Esky-Viewing-Universal-License-Camera/dp/B00GMC8QXI/
I have two of these on two different vehicles, the mounting of them keeps it centered on the back of the vehicle, and it works well in low light conditions. In other words, it has the capability of infrared pickups on the camera sensor.
As I found out the hard way, you can pretty much forget integration with an OEM backup camera that is already on your vehicle, if it is a can bus camera. If it is a regular analog camera, you may be able to get a custom wiring harness to integrate with it.
Otherwise, you’re better off simply installing a new backup camera like I listed above. It’s cheaper that way than to get a digital signal harness.
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None of the radios seem to mention this, but does the OS automatically switch to camera view when you shift your car into reverse? ?
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Yes, provided you connect the proper wire on the harness to the wire on your car that signals when you shift into reverse. Even if the radio is off, after a second or two the screen should come on and you should see the rear view through your rearview camera.
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Many of the reviewers complained about no Bluetooth meta data, Bluetooth and radio static, glare (is there a matte screen protector? ), white noise when the unit is on but not doing anything, and constant google play services errors ?
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Double check on the Joying forum. See what people say there.
Also, if you want something perhaps a little better, I would suggest this: http://www.autopumpkin.com/car-dvd-...ii-3g-wifi-usb-sd-steering-wheel-control.html
This is the same good resolution which we see on the Joying units, but it has a faster PX3 CPU. I don’t think there is anything in the way of a custom ROM for PX3 CPU’s right now, but if you wait a bit it may become available. It depends on what your priorities are.
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Most of this can be fixed with a custom rom, but the radio static, and Bluetooth noise?
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Edit: These radios ship with a clear screen protector on them. Take that off and the glare goes down a bit. Otherwise, you are limited to putting a window tint visor and/or window tinting on your car to cut down incoming light. It works.
Look at the pumpkin models above, the Eonon models as well, and compare and contrast with these below.
http://www.erisinwholesale.com/special-car-dvd/vw/
Then check reviews here on this forum and on the forums for those manufacturers (or resellers, really) to see if you can get an idea as to which models have the least amount of problems. That’s what I did over the course of a few weeks before a selected the radio I currently have. Aside from a few quirks it is okay.
(Don’t forget to hit the thanks button. Thanks! )
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Roy360 said:
Is the f/w difference the only thing separating the two radios? Since I can mod it, there's no point in getting the 5.0 right?
Both of the head units listed in that Amazon listing are the newer, faster RK3188 CPU, and the screen resolution is the same for both of them, so overall I would say they are quite identical.
All of the stereos at this link have roughly the same specifications for CPU, with the only difference being operating system. https://www.carjoying.com/quad-core-android-car-radio/quad-core-vw-android-car-radio.html
However, when you buy one, the older android 4.4.4 may be a MTCB and the Android 5.1 may be a MTCD type, which has slightly newer motherboard and some connections. You won’t know for sure until you buy one, but you may do well to check the Joying forum you find on their homepage.
I presume “parking sensor” to be a bad translation for backup camera. I can’t find any information on that there.
However, if you look here: http://www.eonon.com/Car-GPS/Other-GPS-Navigation/GM5153.html it mentions backup sensor integration, with the caveat that you must have a vehicle which already has a backup sensor built into the car. This also requires can bus integration between the radio and the car, so you will need a can bus connector.
If you don’t have a backup sensor built into your car, you may be out of luck.
If you don’t have a backup camera and you want one installed, I would suggest this: https://www.amazon.com/Esky-Viewing-Universal-License-Camera/dp/B00GMC8QXI/
I have two of these on two different vehicles, the mounting of them keeps it centered on the back of the vehicle, and it works well in low light conditions. In other words, it has the capability of infrared pickups on the camera sensor.
As I found out the hard way, you can pretty much forget integration with an OEM backup camera that is already on your vehicle, if it is a can bus camera. If it is a regular analog camera, you may be able to get a custom wiring harness to integrate with it.
Otherwise, you’re better off simply installing a new backup camera like I listed above. It’s cheaper that way than to get a digital signal harness.
Yes, provided you connect the proper wire on the harness to the wire on your car that signals when you shift into reverse. Even if the radio is off, after a second or two the screen should come on and you should see the rear view through your rearview camera.
Double check on the Joying forum. See what people say there.
Also, if you want something perhaps a little better, I would suggest this: http://www.autopumpkin.com/car-dvd-...ii-3g-wifi-usb-sd-steering-wheel-control.html
This is the same good resolution which we see on the Joying units, but it has a faster PX3 CPU. I don’t think there is anything in the way of a custom ROM for PX3 CPU’s right now, but if you wait a bit it may become available. It depends on what your priorities are.
Edit: These radios ship with a clear screen protector on them. Take that off and the glare goes down a bit. Otherwise, you are limited to putting a window tint visor and/or window tinting on your car to cut down incoming light. It works.
Look at the pumpkin models above, the Eonon models as well, and compare and contrast with these below.
http://www.erisinwholesale.com/special-car-dvd/vw/
Then check reviews here on this forum and on the forums for those manufacturers (or resellers, really) to see if you can get an idea as to which models have the least amount of problems. That’s what I did over the course of a few weeks before a selected the radio I currently have. Aside from a few quirks it is okay.
(Don’t forget to hit the thanks button. Thanks! )
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Well I did some research and found that Parking sensor != backup camera. They are just proximity sensors you put around the car. Doesn't the canbus adapter come with the radio?
I'm looking at this one right now:
http://www.autopumpkin.com/pumpkin-...link-obd2-wifi-3g-steering-wheel-control.html
It mentions 'powerful' parrot fc6000tn blue tooth adapter, but I can find anything about a2dp.
They also advertise the 'ultimate' radio chip:nxp tef6686, which again, I can't find anything on
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Roy360 said:
Well I did some research and found that Parking sensor != backup camera. They are just proximity sensors you put around the car. Doesn't the canbus adapter come with the radio?
I'm looking at this one right now:
http://www.autopumpkin.com/pumpkin-...link-obd2-wifi-3g-steering-wheel-control.html
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That one does indeed have a canbus adapter, so you can run off and buy that one. It may require some some extra setup steps in the System Settings, but that's about it.
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It mentions 'powerful' parrot fc6000tn blue tooth adapter, but I can find anything about a2dp.
They also advertise the 'ultimate' radio chip:nxp tef6686, which again, I can't find anything on
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Unfortunately I can't comment on those since I can't find anything on them either. Bluetooth on these units works and sounds good, and mates up okay with CyanogenMod. Radio sounds good as well, although I don't use it. The Malaysk ROM comes with PC Radio app built in, so you can stream music from anywhere on the internet; it's like a free version of Sirius satellite radio.
I'd suggest avoiding a radio which has no knob, only touch-screen or buttons, as these are less ergonomic and require more time to work than a radio with a knob. You also have to take your eyes off the road to look at where you are touching on the screen, (leaving aside steering wheel radio switches.)
It's your call.
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The cheaper one is using Windows CE 6.0. It says so in the description. I'm no big fan of WinBlows, and I doubt there's a custom ROM for it.
The more expensive one is Android 4.4.4, but the thing I find disconcerting about it is the CPU says AC8722 CPU, of which I can't find any information on. If that isn't really a RockChip CPU, you probably won't be able to put a custom ROM on there.
This sounds scam-y to me. With any decent android navigation app, you ought to be able to get map updates for free over the play store.
Here’s a more expensive Joying car radio, with your choice of android 4.4 or android 5.1: https://www.amazon.com/1024x600-Resolution-Navigation-Capacitive-bluetooth/dp/B00YEHHCX8/
You’d be able to get a custom ROM for this, which means you to have ad blocking built into the system, which means he wouldn’t be staring advertisements while on the road. The screen resolution is also very good.
I’d suggest the above before some of these no-name Chinese models which you may or may not be able to get service for. As I found out the hard way in life, the “cheapest” product is not the least expensive in the long run.
Amazon is pretty decent on shipping charges, although I’m not in Canada so I cannot speak to well for that.
Enjoy!
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That one does indeed have a canbus adapter, so you can run off and buy that one. It may require some some extra setup steps in the System Settings, but that's about it.
Unfortunately I can't comment on those since I can't find anything on them either. Bluetooth on these units works and sounds good, and mates up okay with CyanogenMod. Radio sounds good as well, although I don't use it. The Malaysk ROM comes with PC Radio app built in, so you can stream music from anywhere on the internet; it's like a free version of Sirius satellite radio.
I'd suggest avoiding a radio which has no knob, only touch-screen or buttons, as these are less ergonomic and require more time to work than a radio with a knob. You also have to take your eyes off the road to look at where you are touching on the screen, (leaving aside steering wheel radio switches.)
It's your call.
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No , you're right about the knob. Can't believe I overlooked that.
Unfortunately all the other models with knows don't use the parrot bluetooth ic or the 'ultimate' radio ic.
Maybe I'll just get the joying. Does your support stereo over bluetooth? I heard from some other people that the joying only streams mono audio
Roy360 said:
No , you're right about the knob. Can't believe I overlooked that.
Unfortunately all the other models with knows don't use the parrot bluetooth ic or the 'ultimate' radio ic.
Maybe I'll just get the joying. Does your support stereo over bluetooth? I heard from some other people that the joying only streams mono audio
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I just went out and played a particular song over Bluetooth that has some high-frequency “rimshot” affects that alternate between the left and right channels. (This is the song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HPs1mthogM )
I’m clearly hearing the left and right channels and stereo, not Mono. However, I do not own a Joying radio, I have a Pumpkin head unit, so I cannot speak for the joying.
Hope this helps.
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I just went out and played a particular song over Bluetooth that has some high-frequency “rimshot” affects that alternate between the left and right channels. (This is the song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HPs1mthogM )
I’m clearly hearing the left and right channels and stereo, not Mono. However, I do not own a Joying radio, I have a Pumpkin head unit, so I cannot speak for the joying.
Hope this helps.
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I asked specifically about the Joying, because that's what I heard. 4.4.4 doesn't have metadata, while 5.1 is mono.
Where did you get your pumpkin? I'm a little worried about buying from Chinese websites. With amazon I can just return the item.
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This is what I've found so far:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/282042133528
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/281723596552
Are they any good? The cheaper one doesn't mention the OS, while the more expensive one is stuck on 4.4.4 .
The seller also charges for map updates, so I'm curious as to what format it uses.
Any other brands I should consider? I'm worried that these Chinese units might get damaged during the summer. I keep my car outdoors, so it does get pretty hot.
I'm in Canada, so shipping is expensive (unless its an amazing deal, then I'll just drive over and install in the states)
TIA
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I have a Chinese unit and used it in summer while car is parked outdoor, have not had any "damage" thankfully. Entire unit with shipping will cost around 400 CDN on most units from China plus there could be $30 for DHL. Not sure how much it will be from USA but we pay Tax on items coming from states.
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Where did you get your pumpkin? I'm a little worried about buying from Chinese websites. With amazon I can just return the item.
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Amazon. If I had any issues with it at all, I would have simply boxed it back up and sent it back, no worries.
Ali Express is only to be used for cheap products that you can afford to dispose of if they don't work, like some clothes or cheap USB cables. I'd never consider buying a phone, tablet, computer, set-top box or even a stereo. The logistics and other headaches surrounding refunds are too numerous to consider.
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Hi All,
I'm after a new headunit for my Mazda MPV 2004. I currently have a Parrot Asteroid Smart in my old car which I did like, but also had it's flaws (old version of android, low spec hardware, no physical buttons/dials). I did however love the bluetooth and voice command options.
I've since been looking for a (cheap-ish) Android unit that I can install in the Mazda and honestly I'm overwhelmed! There are so many options now compared to a few years ago when I got the Parrot. I was looking at units like these and was almost convinced to take a gamble and accept that the bluetooth calling would not be as good as the Parrot (I've owned some Eonon units before):
Eonon - http://eonon.com/Car-GPS/Android-Car-GPS/G2110F.html
Pumpkin - http://www.autopumpkin.com/car-dvd-...s-navigation-system-support-3g-wifi-obd2.html
Then I found this:
Avin - https://avinusa.com/7-universal-dou...android-multimedia-navigation-system-159.html
Which got me thinking, are there any other 'no name' units that use the Parrot bluetooth technology that anyone would recommend? Or at least have decent quality bluetooth audio otherwise and preferably voice command? Any hands on experience and reviews would be much appreciated!!
That's the only one I've found listed with parrot. I passed on it becase of the 800 x 480 resolution. Seems people like the Newsmy for Bluetooth calls and Google now works (Newsmy owners, correct me if I am wrong).
Thanks, I'll check out the Newsmy, hadn't heard of them. What did you end up going with twokidsandaphone?
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What did you end up going with twokidsandaphone?
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I actually first ordered a lower cost unit from a seller called "Umecity". I changed my mind and even though the order was officially shipped, it had not been given to DHL yet and they let me cancel, which was awesome of them. That unit has an Allwinnertech chip, not the RK3188. It was less than $300 CDN, shipped, but I was concerned about BT and radio quality (and since it was for my wife I decided to err on the side of caution). All of their units get very good reviews though, still tempted... maybe for my car.
At any rate my requirements were:
Universal 7" 2 Din
Steering wheel controls (resistive type)
Support large external drive (for FLAC files)
1024 x 600, quad core
Joying units don't support large external drives (most list 32 gb as max), and I saw quite a few complaints about the Bluetooth quality even after mic fix.
Ownice units do support the large drive, but the later posts in the thread suggest quality issues and lack of support from the seller
2nd gen Tonghai units - couldn't find one I liked, can't remember everything that took it off the list
So that only left Newsmy; seems a high quality unit with good radio reception (SiLabs chip), dual Bluetooth (one for calls, one for android), and lots of xda support.
I ordered the NR3001 this morning. Downside was it was over double the cost of the first one that I cancelled (~$600 CDN, of which $131 was shipping). Hope it's worth it! Note the CDN dollar sucks now, so not nearly as bad in US$.
Jeff
P.S. I currently have a PAS in my car - still mostly like it.
twokidsandaphone said:
I actually first ordered a lower cost unit from a seller called "Umecity". I changed my mind and even though the order was officially shipped, it had not been given to DHL yet and they let me cancel, which was awesome of them. That unit has an Allwinnertech chip, not the RK3188. It was less than $300 CDN, shipped, but I was concerned about BT and radio quality (and since it was for my wife I decided to err on the side of caution). All of their units get very good reviews though, still tempted... maybe for my car.
At any rate my requirements were:
Universal 7" 2 Din
Steering wheel controls (resistive type)
Support large external drive (for FLAC files)
1024 x 600, quad core
Joying units don't support large external drives (most list 32 gb as max), and I saw quite a few complaints about the Bluetooth quality even after mic fix.
Ownice units do support the large drive, but the later posts in the thread suggest quality issues and lack of support from the seller
2nd gen Tonghai units - couldn't find one I liked, can't remember everything that took it off the list
So that only left Newsmy; seems a high quality unit with good radio reception (SiLabs chip), dual Bluetooth (one for calls, one for android), and lots of xda support.
I ordered the NR3001 this morning. Downside was it was over double the cost of the first one that I cancelled (~$600 CDN, of which $131 was shipping). Hope it's worth it! Note the CDN dollar sucks now, so not nearly as bad in US$.
Jeff
P.S. I currently have a PAS in my car - still mostly like it.
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Thanks for the info Jeff, when your unit arrives and is installed I'd love to hear your thoughts and experiences.
This new unit will also be for my wife's car, she has basically the same requirements as you except there is no need for large storage expansion, ipod compatibility and a physical dial for volume (she hates the touch screen volume of the PAS, although if steering wheel controls work I wouldn't think that would be an issue, just have no idea how to wire them up...)
Cost is also an issue, I'm in Australia so those cheap US prices get high really quick for Australia!
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I actually first ordered a lower cost unit from a seller called "Umecity".
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Hi Jeff,
I had a google and couldn't find this unit. Can you send me a link for comparison, and perhaps to the reviews too?
Thanks!
I couldn't find it on Google either. The reviews are just those of the customers of the seller. They sell the same unit in a few different vehicle specific versions. Their universal version is linked below. No buttons or knobs though...
In Dash Universal Quad Core 2 Din Android 4.4 Car Audio Stereo GPS 3G Wifi Bluetooth Radio (No) CD Player automotivo
http://s.aliexpress.com/yyqIfqi6
(from AliExpress Android)
Jeff
P.S. The Newsmy arrived today. In the middle of a bathroom reno so will be a little while before I can try it out.
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I couldn't find it on Google either. The reviews are just those of the customers of the seller. They sell the same unit in a few different vehicle specific versions. Their universal version is linked below. No buttons or knobs though...
In Dash Universal Quad Core 2 Din Android 4.4 Car Audio Stereo GPS 3G Wifi Bluetooth Radio (No) CD Player automotivo
http://s.aliexpress.com/yyqIfqi6
(from AliExpress Android)
Jeff
P.S. The Newsmy arrived today. In the middle of a bathroom reno so will be a little while before I can try it out.
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Thanks for the link and looking forward to the newsmy review when you get around to it!
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Just so you know, Pumpkin have just released a new product that uses a Parrot module, the links below
http://www.autopumpkin.com/pumpkin-...t-dab-mirrorlink-aux-output-obd2-wifi-3g.html
Regs
I am torn between the Pumpkin with Parrot Bluetooth and the Newsmy NR-3001.
Pumpkin works out cheaper because of Free Shipping vs AUD$133 for the Newsmy, but the Newsmy's already active ROM development is appealing.
Decisions, decisions........
I'm curious about the Pumpkin unit now too, I have heard reasonable things about Pumpkin in the past when they were WinCE units. I still haven't decided on anything for the wife's car yet but I need to soon. When I get something I'll be sure to post a review for anyone else in future.
I'd be interested in what everyone else here chooses and their experiences with their chosen unit too.
Look forward to hearing your thoughts Glen.
Having read through some of the Newsmy thread and the xdAuto ROM thread, I am leaning towards the Newsmy.
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So in the end I went with price above all and purchased an Eonon G2110F Android headunit. I have to say I have been quite happy with the unit, it is much more responsive than the Parrot Asteroid Smart and runs apps natively, without any drop in audio quality like the smart. One issue which was sort of expected, is the sub-par bluetooth microphone quality. I expected the quality to not be too great, especially compared to the Parrot Smart, but it is so bad that most of the time I have to tell my wife to call me when she gets home because I can't hear her!
I am going to try to find an aftermarket bluetooth microphone to try instead, does anyone recommend anything that has good quality for a unit like this one?
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*UPDATE*
So in the end I went with price above all and purchased an Eonon G2110F Android headunit. I have to say I have been quite happy with the unit, it is much more responsive than the Parrot Asteroid Smart and runs apps natively, without any drop in audio quality like the smart. One issue which was sort of expected, is the sub-par bluetooth microphone quality. I expected the quality to not be too great, especially compared to the Parrot Smart, but it is so bad that most of the time I have to tell my wife to call me when she gets home because I can't hear her!
I am going to try to find an aftermarket bluetooth microphone to try instead, does anyone recommend anything that has good quality for a unit like this one?
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Haven't you read about the BT problems we all have? The only way to fix it is the mod of the motherboard.
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Haven't you read about the BT problems we all have? The only way to fix it is the mod of the motherboard.
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I wasn't aware of the Bluetooth issues, is it just with the eonon unit or all units with a particular chipset?
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I wasn't aware of the Bluetooth issues, is it just with the eonon unit or all units with a particular chipset?
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Basically all units that I'm aware of. Even the new Pumpkin claiming Parrot BT suffers from the same problem. I've have the new Pumpkin too.
The main problem is the two microphones (internal-external) are connected in parallel. I've done the mod on my four units and after that it's okay.
You still need a better mic since the Chinese mic is crap. I'm using a Parrot mic and the mod.
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Basically all units that I'm aware of. Even the new Pumpkin claiming Parrot BT suffers from the same problem. I've have the new Pumpkin too.
The main problem is the two microphones (internal-external) are connected in parallel. I've done the mod on my four units and after that it's okay.
You still need a better mic since the Chinese mic is crap. I'm using a Parrot mic and the mod.
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Thanks for the info, could you be so kind as to link to the mod? Thanks!
twokidsandaphone said:
I actually first ordered a lower cost unit from a seller called "Umecity". I changed my mind and even though the order was officially shipped, it had not been given to DHL yet and they let me cancel, which was awesome of them. That unit has an Allwinnertech chip, not the RK3188. It was less than $300 CDN, shipped, but I was concerned about BT and radio quality (and since it was for my wife I decided to err on the side of caution). All of their units get very good reviews though, still tempted... maybe for my car.
At any rate my requirements were:
Universal 7" 2 Din
Steering wheel controls (resistive type)
Support large external drive (for FLAC files)
1024 x 600, quad core
Joying units don't support large external drives (most list 32 gb as max), and I saw quite a few complaints about the Bluetooth quality even after mic fix.
Ownice units do support the large drive, but the later posts in the thread suggest quality issues and lack of support from the seller
2nd gen Tonghai units - couldn't find one I liked, can't remember everything that took it off the list
So that only left Newsmy; seems a high quality unit with good radio reception (SiLabs chip), dual Bluetooth (one for calls, one for android), and lots of xda support.
I ordered the NR3001 this morning. Downside was it was over double the cost of the first one that I cancelled (~$600 CDN, of which $131 was shipping). Hope it's worth it! Note the CDN dollar sucks now, so not nearly as bad in US$.
Jeff
P.S. I currently have a PAS in my car - still mostly like it.
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Hi Jeff, just curious about your experience with the Newsmy after using it for a while? Whilst I like the Eonon generally, the bluetooth call issues and their lack of support has been a deal breaker, and I'm ready to replace it already!
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I am torn between the Pumpkin with Parrot Bluetooth and the Newsmy NR-3001.
Pumpkin works out cheaper because of Free Shipping vs AUD$133 for the Newsmy, but the Newsmy's already active ROM development is appealing.
Decisions, decisions........
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Hi Zelig, did you end up ordering a unit? What were your experiences?
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Basically all units that I'm aware of. Even the new Pumpkin claiming Parrot BT suffers from the same problem. I've have the new Pumpkin too.
The main problem is the two microphones (internal-external) are connected in parallel. I've done the mod on my four units and after that it's okay.
You still need a better mic since the Chinese mic is crap. I'm using a Parrot mic and the mod.
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Hi halloj, Eonon sent me this link to a video replacing the internal mic - https://drive.google.com/a/eonon.com/file/d/0B4MwM-4-7u6TbkxkcnByN0thMjA/view?usp=drive_web
I'm wondering if I removed the mic completely if it would default to the external mic, or if simply desoldering it would not be enough? Perhaps replacing it with a better quality mic like the video would be sufficient? Any thoughts, you seem to have done this a few times!
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Hi Jeff, just curious about your experience with the Newsmy after using it for a while? Whilst I like the Eonon generally, the bluetooth call issues and their lack of support has been a deal breaker, and I'm ready to replace it already!
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I can say that I am pretty happy with the Newsmy. I installed xdAuto on it (source code for the Newsmy leaked and XDA developers built a great ROM). With xdAuto the user interface is pretty good; there are a set of icons along the bottom of the screen that allow you to switch quickly between different apps without first going to the launcher home screen. Audio focus works properly, meaning that when you, say, start a song on Spotify, the audio from the radio app (or whatever other source) stops.
I find the sound quality quite good even without equalizer running (xdAuto has viper included) . There are occasional background noises (most apparent with silent sections of a track when at a light) but practically speaking they are not noticeable when driving.
the Bluetooth for hands free calling while not nearly as good as the Parrot is quite useable.
OBD2 Bluetooth reader/Torque works flawlessly.
Steering wheel controls work on every app I've used which can be an issue with other units.
Radio reception is good, but the radio app does not have RDS implemented. Apparently the silabs tuner chip is of high quality and has RDS support but the Newsmy programmers/subcontractors could not figure out how to implement it. XDA developers offered to help but were given the run around with promises of MCU source code that was never provided.
I can use Google Now voice commands to start Spotify, navigation, make calls, etc. Again not as good as the voice recognition implementation on the Parrot in terms of accuracy but a reasonable success rate.
Complaints I or other users have had:
Google maps is choppy when starting to navigate. I mostly use Waze which works very well.
Screen washes out in direct sun.
Audio control is abysmal. No control over sub out level or crossover. No native eq. All you get is a screen for balance/fade that is implemented by providing four separate volume controls for FL/FR/RL/RR.
USB DVR camera kills internal/external mics for Android (not Bluetooth calls), not an issue if you don't need/want to run a dashcam or don't care about voice commands
USB devices do not go into standby properly. If you are short of boring material to read you can see my posts on the xdAuto thread on it. This problem led to my music app often rescanning my large music collection when coming out of standby. I found a work around by modifying a USB hub to provide power all the time.
Don't expect much/any support from Newsmy on technical or warranty issues, but not many have had quality issues, and it always boots in both the extreme heat and bitter cold of Canadian summers/winters. I've had the unit apart and the PC board quality/assembly seems better than pics I've see of other Chinese units.
With all those pros/cons I did decide to buy two NR3001s and don't regret it. They are not perfect but I still believe the best option there is from my reading here on XDA. It might be that if I was buying now/next couple of months I might try the indash.net octacore but it seems there are still issues to work out, maybe wait and see..
Hello there
Last weekend I received my first Android HU, an Erisin ES3015V. I drive a 2013 Skoda Fabia RS, and the installation was very straight forward. Can bus built in to the unit meant it was just a matter of connecting the big "VW" type connector, the antennas and usb, and everything just worked. I was very impressed. After playing with it all evening, installing apps, tweaking the launcher (and killing my battery), I went to bed.
The next day I started having problems with boot loops (looping even before any logo appeared on screen). This kept getting worse until I had to spend like ten minutes trying to press and hold the power and / or reset buttons to get lucky and make it boot. Once it booted, everything seemed great until the next cold start. I also installed the MTCD malaysk rom, but it didn't help. I contacted the dealer and he asked me to send it back for replacement, as he reckons it's a hardware problem.
Now, he also sells the Eonon in the topic, so if I want to, I can get that instead. I understand that this is an older unit (MTCB I think?) and that it has a can bus box instead of built in can bus. The resolution is also lower, but it has the same amount of ram and same cpu. Eonon info page says Android 4.4.4 but the reseller says 5.1. With this unit I suppose I would be able to run a more matured rom. I'm also curious as to sound quality differences. I'd ideally like a unit that doesn't sound worse than the original Skoda Swing / VW RCD310 in the car. Would also need a dab+ usb thingy.
Please help me make up my mind!
I'd tell you to stick with any android head unit that has KitKat (4.4.4). Android 5.1, while nice and it does add a few new features, tends to be slower and the ROM is larger. Consider this video:
Android Lollipop 5.1 vs KitKat 4.4.4 - Performance Comparison (Nexus 5)
On the same hardware, things slow down with android 5.1, and you're not really going to be using a lot of the features of that OS on a car radio. If this was a cellphone, I'd say yes, go for android 5.1.
That said, I'd lean towards the Eonon. Both have the same RK3188 CPU and same resolution screen, which leads me to believe that they are the same exact unit with a different brand name on them.
As an example, here 's some stereos: http://www.autopumpkin.com/car-dvd-players/vw-car-dvd-player/vw-skoda-dvd-player
This is also for VW / Skoda. Notice how some look exactly the same as the other two. Simply stay away from any that offer Dual-core CPU's and you ought to be fine, but I simply show you for purposes of demonstration.
Having said that, here's one that is about the same price as your other two but slightly better specs: http://www.autopumpkin.com/car-dvd-...ii-3g-wifi-usb-sd-steering-wheel-control.html
This has a faster quad-core CPU plus higher resolution, so you may get equivalent performance to what you have selected above. It is Android 5.1, but with a faster CPU the performance will be about the same.
The choice is yours. Enjoy!
Thanks for your in-depth reply CaptShaft
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On the same hardware, things slow down with android 5.1, and you're not really going to be using a lot of the features of that OS on a car radio. If this was a cellphone, I'd say yes, go for android 5.1.
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My thoughts as well. After getting the Erisin I noticed that there's a lot more stuff going on for the MTCB unilts. I'm worried about the dab+ usb stick though. Seems they aren't fully supported? What about the 3g/4g stick?
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That said, I'd lean towards the Eonon. Both have the same RK3188 CPU and same resolution screen, which leads me to believe that they are the same exact unit with a different brand name on them.
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Actually, the Erisin is 1024 while the Eonon is 800-something, however the rest looks to be more or less identical. The Erisin has can bus built in to the unit itself though, while the Eonon has a more traditional external can bus converter.
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The choice is yours. Enjoy!
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Thanks. I hope I will
My thoughts as well. After getting the Erisin I noticed that there's a lot more stuff going on for the MTCB units.
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Consider these threads where people discuss MTCB vs. MTCD:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...nt/mtcd-unit-preferred-mtcb-purchase-t3399173
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android-auto/android-auto-general/units-to-buy-mtcb-mtcd-t3389108
The most popular hardware gets the most development and most attention of the developers. If we use a smartphone analogy, that would be something like a Samsung phone vs. a off-brand Chinese knockoff. Everybody climbs into the biggest boat, and that is MTCB right now. That is currently the RK3188 processor (I believe) and maybe some of the CPU’s after that, like the PX3 CPU that was on the one pumpkin I showed you above. I can’t say for sure. This should bear some further investigation on your part before you make a final decision.
If you are looking for the ability to tinker with an aftermarket ROM like the Malaysk ROM’s, you probably don’t want to be on the bleeding edge of the latest hardware. That’s your call, however. There are custom ROMs for both MTCB and MTCD and both will allow you to tinker.
I'm worried about the dab+ usb stick though. Seems they aren't fully supported? What about the 3g/4g stick?
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To answer both at once, I will say it like this : I can’t comment on the DAB+ stick personally because I don’t use much in the way of radio. The Malaysk ROM’s come with an android PCRadio app built-in, which works a lot like Sirius satellite radio but does not require any subscription. It streams the “radio” music data over the Internet, and there are multiple Internet radio stations that are worldwide. My experience with the classical ones is that they are almost entirely free of commercials. This works well for my purpose, and since I personally don’t tolerate advertising of any variety, I’m happy with this. I also pack a lot of my own music and audiobooks onto a USB drive or SD card.
In my case I use my smart phone hotspot to feed the Internet to the stereo. I’m already paying for Internet connection through my smart phone, I felt I didn’t need to buy another mobile service line just for a car radio. I’ve heard a lot of consternation about the Internet USB sticks. At least over here in the US, people complain about poor reception and loss of signal. Reviews over at Amazon seem to bear this out. Your experience may vary.
Actually, the Erisin is 1024 while the Eonon is 800-something, however the rest looks to be more or less identical. The Erisin has can bus built in to the unit itself though, while the Eonon has a more traditional external can bus converter.
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At least both have the functionality, which is good. Again, however, I can’t comment on this too much because I don’t tinker with this, however it has piqued my curiosity. It seems like it is a one way functionality, namely the car sends information to the android radio only. This is good, and this allows the radio to receive certain information from the vehicle for diagnostic purposes. For security purposes, what you do not want is the radio to be sending signals back to the car. You really don’t want a virus to disable your brakes, or shut off your motor while on the highway, for example.
Again, look at that pumpkin unit that I had suggested earlier. Double check the specs on that, and see if that might not be more towards your liking, and maybe will meet your needs. Pumpkin does a fairly decent job, at least this is been my experience.
Hello,
Long time reader but here's first post
I plan to buy an android head unit for my car.
I need your help to choose a model that feet my needs.
My car is 2011 mercedes B class (W245). It's actually equiped with an Alpine INE S900R unit.
I'm sick of it because of it's poor fm reception, poor gps reception and interface and moreover the crapy quality of hands free bluetooth with no possibility to stream music.
I look for a head unit that fits in my car.
I read that i have not much to expect from fm reception and functions. In my alpine unit rds, af and ta doesn't work well.
I think i will go for 2Gb ram unit.
I have the choice between units with 7" screen, hard buttons and a look like an original command ntg. On the other hand i can have 9" units with soft buttons.
As i don't plan to watch videos and don't need a dvd or cd player in my car is a 9" screen a big improvement ?
Of course i want to have steering wheel control, gps, wifi, an entry for a reverse cam.
I'm in france so i think i don't really need dab+ as our radio stations don't seem to be in a hurry to use it.
I've read bad comments about mtcd_kgl, but it seems to be the most common platform to find units which fits in mercedes cars.
Thank you in advance for your advices.
I'm in the same boat as you, since I drive a Sprinter (W906), which uses the same unit as for the W245.
I had a MTCD KGL 7" unit for this car before. All I can say is stay away from KGL (like the 9" screen unit your referring to https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/HD-9...4.48010108.5.2.KL6ja5&&scm=1007.12783.72505.0). The quality of the finish was terrible and trying to contact KGL in order to solve things in a mature way was simply fruitless because they cut off the conversation. Apart from that, the unit your referring to is still a MTCD-unit. By now, the general consensus on XDA regarding this platform is to avoid it. Malasyk did great things in trying to improve the firmware, but in the end there where too many bugs and limitations on hardware level that couldn't be overcome.
So for now I think the only alternative seems to be the Ownice C500-version with the 7" screen and the hardware buttons. Despite several bugs, to me it seems to be quite good and think of ordering one in the coming days.
Interested to hear your opinions on any other options.
Thank you for your answer.
The C500 is not an option for me as it seems to have an awful FM section with no support of rds functions.
Having spent hours to read the forum and search on the net I think that there might be only one option: finding a mtcc_kld unit which fits in my dash.
Kld units seem to be sold by pumpkin. The problem is to be sure to have one kld.
Chinese sellers would tell you anything to sell their product.
It's a shame I'd rather have A big screen and 2Gb ram.
The Chinese sellers are awful indeed, they will try to scam you into anything. However, Aliexpress does seem to be more strict in enforcing the money-back policy in case you specifically asked about a feature up-front and were given a positive reply by the seller.
Just ask for a screenshot of the system specs and make it clear that you will not accept something else. Problem is however: what do you do if they send you something else anyway? Taxes and return shipping will be your loss anyway and the guy who has bad intentions knows that.
I don't know what specs the pumpkin model has you're talking about. I would never go for a 1gb model anymore, just too damn slow.
You are probably right. I'll wait till I find a suitable 2Gb model
If you really want to get a KLD unit... nothing easier than that.
Pumpkin is just a reseller for a lot of different manufacturers and you mostly don´t exactly know what you buy.
Go to the factory itself. Get in contact with them by chat and tell them your wishes,
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so who are the best units out there.
something that works with minimum work to make it "nice" or functional.
I do not mind some tinkering with software, but do not want to root, or do any sort of hardware mods.
lets start with money no object. as it needs to be
responsive to the touch, and fast to react
quick to boot,
reliable future proof,
sat nav (happy with google maps, or here maps)
DAB
High Res Screen
nice to have
TV built in? not a must but why not.
USB, or Aux input (could do with audio streaming alone?)
reverse camera
Wifi, or means to transfer without using data from my phone
btw, I have VW touran 2005, in case it makes a difference in fitting etc
I'm trying to decide myself which to get. I like the Joying stuff but their new model for my car had no disc drive. If you find anything out as to which is best let me know and I'll do the same
I've bought a XRROSS unit. I haven't plugged it in as I need to find a working interface to retain wheel control buttons and able to start the amp.
I have an outlander 2007 with Rockford Fosgate system.
I have been using an Erisin Android 4.2 model for the last few years in my BMW X5, and found it decent but not great. Underneath the Erisin is one of the many, many Hui Fei units that get sold under a bunch of different badges and used one of the Rockchip CPUs that are found in the majority of these units. In my case it was the RK3066.
Overall impressions - I loved the convenience of having a full android tablet instead of the stupid stereo interface originally on my car, but as time went on I found I used it less and less and tended to just use my phone. The interface on the unit was not great as there were a number of apps (particularly their settings) where the controls were outside the edges of the screen and therefore unreachable. This seemed to be in large part a problem with the low-res (800x480) screen and the fact that it is always in landscape mode (obviously). I've recently tried out some of the 3rd party roms found here on XDA which are noticeably better than the stock rom that came with it.
The unit started having problems after about 3 years as the bottom half and the top half inch (1cm) of the touchscreen no longer respond to touch. This has rendered the unit basically useless.
I'm now in the market for a replacement and I would be interested to hear impressions and complaints from anyone that has an Android 5 or 6 unit.
right so my turn to provide information I collected...
I had a chat with a friend who owns car head units \ bluetooth etc fitting company, circa about 6 cars and more private contractors to fit through out the UK, his opinion is
"chinese head units are rabbish, stay away from them and buy decent manufacturer units like ken wood pioneer etc.
for each 10 units of those cheaper ones, (he admits that it have much more functionality for the price). about 6 have issue.
its not well thought of, and different problems comes up, starting with many software issues, to hardware combination as those cheaper companies hardware is whatever cheapest, and very little thought about segmenting
thier own producs, which causes issues with firmware updates later. and make it hardware to control quality.
provided an example, of heating up units, or battery just dies, or the unit just bricks"
so as you see from earlier he is totally against it, however I would presume if you are reading this, then you are willing to open your own dash and debugging issues yourself, and will to throw away hardware if it bricks etc.
long life time is not something you always expect, its a luck of the draw.
he goes further and says:
"even good company, if you want navigation, then you need to go top of the range £1000+, as cheaper units are not great at that"
but then he is used to all the top stuff, so he might say that.
however the think I agree with him most on:
"get something that mirror your phone, this way you can get cheaper units, and you rely on your phone which is smart and feature rich to start with, even the £200 ones that mirror your phone is good enough"
now, my thoughts are, there are other things (I forgot to ask him) about viewing angle, what sort of resolution will look good enough etc. (I agree with the guy above about the resolution)
Oh, mmmalas comment does remind me: If you are driving a BMW X5, 5 series, or any other model of car where the stereo panel curves upward into the dashboard, the Chinese Android units are going to be a problem. Even though the units I've looked at fit beautifully into the panel space, and have perfectly fitted curved fascia, the screen ends up pointing at an angle that makes it unreadable in sunlight. The units that have the screen standing up at a tangent from the curve of the case might be better, although I do think they look somewhat awkward.
Like this unit for example: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/9-BMW-X5-E39...ash=item360f37eb54:g:jF4AAOSwol5Y2hSi&vxp=mtr
the pioneer or maybe the kenwood ones, allow you to adjust the angle on the unit (motorised).
I presume those android units are mainly TN panels, rather than IPS. which makes the viewing angles worse.
it would be nice if my son in the middle of back seat can watch a movie. but I am unsure if the screens are that good. will be nice to know
I have an xtrons unit, the Andriod 6 with 8 core. I really like it, there is virtually no boot time, its instant. Backup camera is great, I run spotify which is great, and a few other apps like google maps and here maps, and gmail. So far everything looks great, had it about a month now. Only thing I have yet to do is get a reliable alternative to hotspotting my phone every time i get in the car.
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I have an xtrons unit, the Andriod 6 with 8 core. I really like it, there is virtually no boot time, its instant. Backup camera is great, I run spotify which is great, and a few other apps like google maps and here maps, and gmail. So far everything looks great, had it about a month now. Only thing I have yet to do is get a reliable alternative to hotspotting my phone every time i get in the car.
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You can connect it via NFC.
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You can connect it via NFC.
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What I meant was I am trying to find a dongle solution here in the US for it. So I dont have to use my phone.
I have an ownice c500 unit. I think it is the best unit available. It is not perfect and some people have some problems like with DAB+ etc. but for me, it works perfectly.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Ownice_C500
is the screen view-able from sides perfectly, or does it suffer from viewing angles, or sun reflection in your face.
and does the screen color look good, or its one of those things that either look crap in daylight, or night
Hello
Could you please give me a short rationg from https://liamscar.com/best-android-auto-head-unit/
Is it possibe to find best of the android unit
Sure, if it was with low budget.
I used Pumpkin, but I want to replace it
So I was reading the how can China manufacturer make you happy thread and mjdoom mentioned he'd like to see Apple CarPlay or Android Auto. That got me wondering, what's the appeal of these units? Why not just buy one of the many mainstream headunits on the market that have those features? Is it the price? OEM(ish) fitment? etc?
For me it was price and the ability to do multiple things (Dashcam/DVR is a plus).
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So I was reading the how can China manufacturer make you happy thread and mjdoom mentioned he'd like to see Apple CarPlay or Android Auto. That got me wondering, what's the appeal of these units? Why not just buy one of the many mainstream headunits on the market that have those features? Is it the price? OEM(ish) fitment? etc?
For me it was price and the ability to do multiple things (Dashcam/DVR is a plus).
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Simple, the appeal is that if you have android running your radio, then you can actually use it to do things.
Unlike those mainstream junk boxes that do nothing at all.
Unfortunate downside of this is the extreme buggyness of the chinese units.
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Simple, the appeal is that if you have android running your radio, then you can actually use it to do things.
Unlike those mainstream junk boxes that do nothing at all.
Unfortunate downside of this is the extreme buggyness of the chinese units.
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For basic GPS maps and Streaming Music the unit I have works great out of the box. Far from what I would call "buggy". Most of the complaints or bugs I see here are with functionality that isn't even remotely possible on most head units. Bugs such as pairing an ODBII can be a pain, but it's not even possible to anything that isn't full android.
Just having google maps in the dash with a couple of real streaming music apps is a superior experience than anything a car manufacture is putting in their new cars. The big appeal for me is it is android and can be customized to do far more than most typical head units. It also helps that I am a very technical person and hacking with android is a hobby of mine.
We have 2 newer cars, a work truck with 'ford sync', and my wife just got a car with 'Nissan Connect' with GPS. A passenger can't even enter a destination in the units without the driver pulling over and stopping. She still ends up dash mounting her phone for google maps and just streaming music from it. Both are quite useless and overly restricted compared to a $300 Chinese head unit.
I prefer to drive my 6 year old car, just because the cheap Chinese head unit is far superior to anything shipping from the factory today in most cars.
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For basic GPS maps and Streaming Music the unit I have works great out of the box. Far from what I would call "buggy". Most of the complaints or bugs I see here are with functionality that isn't even remotely possible on most head units. Bugs such as pairing an ODBII can be a pain, but it's not even possible to anything that isn't full android.
Just having google maps in the dash with a couple of real streaming music apps is a superior experience than anything a car manufacture is putting in their new cars. The big appeal for me is it is android and can be customized to do far more than most typical head units. It also helps that I am a very technical person and hacking with android is a hobby of mine.
We have 2 newer cars, a work truck with 'ford sync', and my wife just got a car with 'Nissan Connect' with GPS. A passenger can't even enter a destination in the units without the driver pulling over and stopping. She still ends up dash mounting her phone for google maps and just streaming music from it. Both are quite useless and overly restricted compared to a $300 Chinese head unit.
I prefer to drive my 6 year old car, just because the cheap Chinese head unit is far superior to anything shipping from the factory today in most cars.
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Yeah, because the "usually fails to connect the SCO stream" isn't a really important bug.
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Yeah, because the "usually fails to connect the SCO stream" isn't a really important bug.
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I agree if basic BT functionality isn't working, that is a big problem. Guess I am lucky as I haven't seen that issue. BT really hasn't been much of an issue with my Joying, once I figured out how to pair my ODBII.
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I agree if basic BT functionality isn't working, that is a big problem. Guess I am lucky as I haven't seen that issue. BT really hasn't been much of an issue with my Joying, once I figured out how to pair my ODBII.
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It usually works ok for a little while, then after some time stops working. So if you're only doing really short drives, then you might not notice it. If you're doing hour or longer drives, then you'll start to see it happen.
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It usually works ok for a little while, then after some time stops working. So if you're only doing really short drives, then you might not notice it. If you're doing hour or longer drives, then you'll start to see it happen.
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I drove about 4 hours over the weekend with the headunit tethered to my phone via BT, and didn't have any issues. This is on the Sept 1 ROM. Perhaps the problem is heat related since it only happens on longer drives?
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I drove about 4 hours over the weekend with the headunit tethered to my phone via BT, and didn't have any issues. This is on the Sept 1 ROM. Perhaps the problem is heat related since it only happens on longer drives?
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No, heat related would be impossible, heatsink and fan keeps it at a nice cool 40 degrees. Something mungs up in the software after a while -- turning the bluetooth off and then back on manually temporarily corrects the problem. Could be working for you because of a change in the sept build, everything earlier exhibits the problem. Two separate units in two cars. One running may, one running july, both with heatsink and fan.
I have a DPF in my car and I run the Torque app to show status so that I can extend it's life. I also have displays for battery condition, actual speed (not the speedo adjusted one), and engine temps. Things that help me look after the car and keep it running reliably.
The great thing is that I can customise to suit my needs or if there are more things to monitor.
Being able to play any format music without having to convert it to work in the car.
Better GPS navigation with a 8" screen, dedicated up to date maps with street speeds and speed camera locations, connection to the traffic network (no data plan needed).
The only downside would be I wish bluetooth A2DP streaming was better. For me the pros outweigh the cons of the 2" monochrome screen I had before.
I've only just bought my unit but the reasons for me are the price and the greater capabilities!