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LTE in the U.S. Any chance the SGS2 radio supports 700mhz?

This is probably of no interest to anyone outside the U.S.
So everything we know in the U.S. about LTE has come from VZW users who were the pioneers. The article in the link below brings up some interesting points. First, give up on LTE roaming as there are 12 different frequencies it's approved to run over. Second, and maybe why battery life sucks for VZW users, is that their LTE phones are CDMA but use GSM and a separate radio for LTE. So here's a question. The article says AT&T is using the 700mhz frequency for LTE. Do you think that since we're GSM to begin with that the radio in the SGS2 might already support 700mhz but not have it enabled? A dev found AT&T's LTE APNs and logos in the 2.3.4 leak which is why I'm asking the question. If the AT&T LTE SGS2 has a different radio, could it still use our ROM? I'd also imagine the AT&T LTE SGS2 won't have the battery life issues that VZW folks suffer simply because hand-off between 2/3/4G/LTE will be within a single radio on a single protocol. Thoughts?
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2388526,00.asp

Trying to decide between ATT or Tmo version: How crucial will LTE band 5 (850mhz) be?

I am currently on ATT and was looking to purchase an off contract Moto X today but wasn't sure which one to get.
I've heard people say "Oh get the Tmobile version as it has bands for both and is unlocked"...
...but when I look at the specs for both I see the Tmobile version is missing LTE band 5 (850mhz)
Anyone here with technical knowledge of ATT LTE bands know how crucial 850mhz band 5 will be coverage wise?
Is it worth going with the ATT version to have that band for good LTE coverage long term?

ap3604 said:
I am currently on ATT and was looking to purchase an off contract Moto X today but wasn't sure which one to get.
I've heard people say "Oh get the Tmobile version as it has bands for both and is unlocked"...
...but when I look at the specs for both I see the Tmobile version is missing LTE band 5 (850mhz)
Anyone here with technical knowledge of ATT LTE bands know how crucial 850mhz band 5 will be coverage wise?
Is it worth going with the ATT version to have that band for good LTE coverage long term?
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Tmobile version is the same actually Motorola just changed it on their site from tmobile to gsm unlocked (comes with tmo sim)

bmt626 said:
Tmobile version is the same actually Motorola just changed it on their site from tmobile to gsm unlocked (comes with tmo sim)
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its not the same, BUT
I think band 5 is not used in USA

Hard to say what AT&T will do in the future. From reading here there are a few places where AT&T is using band 5 for LTE service. AT&T would have had the choice of hardware when they decided to sell the Moto X and they chose the XT1058 and not the XT1053. Maybe they consider band 5 support important, maybe they just wanted a phone which didn't fully support Tmobile.

[Q] T-mobile LTE Network Upgrades

T-mobile has been announcing a variety of improvements to their LTE wireless network,:
4×2 MiMo, 15+15 and 20+20 LTE networks, 700 mhz.
Is any of this relevant to N4's running LTE? What about the N5?

kmandel said:
T-mobile has been announcing a variety of improvements to their LTE wireless network,:
4×2 MiMo, 15+15 and 20+20 LTE networks, 700 mhz.
Is any of this relevant to N4's running LTE? What about the N5?
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Absolutely.

scream4cheese said:
Absolutely.
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I'm surprised at your answer. As far as frequency, I thought the N4 only had the hardware for LTE at 1700mhz. For 4x2Mimo I thought it depended on the antenna arrangement in the phone (as well as the tower). I don't know what factors are related to 15+15 and 20+20.
The answer I expected was no for N4 and possibly yes for N5.

The n4 definitely doesnt support 700mhz anything for lte, no existing device (officially) supports band 12, though many recent ones support band 17 (which does not help for band 12).
Weither or not it can do carrier aggregration on the same band in hardware: i doubt it can do it in software (this is just opinion until someone can test it with a terminal emulator).
Even more basic stuff like cell tower location services is broken while in LTE on the N4.
Multi band carrier aggregration definitely isnt possible as the N4 only "supports" a single band.
The S4pro and S600 (technically the MDM9x15M as they both use it) platform should only support a maximum of 2x2 MIMO as they're all only rated for LTE Cat 4 (E-UTRA - User Equipment (UE) categories - Wikipedia)
It's the S800 and newer that use the MDM9x25 and that supports LTE Cat 5, which includes 4 stream MIMO

Wind Moto X Play LTE Capable?

Hello Everyone,
This may be a Dumb question but here goes...
Does the wind version of the Moto X Play support LTE out of box? or can it be patched to use Telus LTE bands ?
any help is greatly appreciated!
Thanks

This question on 2015? Really?
Yes it's lte ready

It's a fair question if you realize that the carrier he was asking about does not have LTE services.
Wind mobile is a Canadian carrier that only has AWS bands - no LTE. For all we know Wind might have crippled something ALL THOUGH I doubt that is the case.
All the Moto X Play sold in Canada are XT1563 - Bell, Telus (Koodo) each have their own respective firmware but l think that the minor players - Videotron & Wind probably have just have generic baseband. The jury is still out though on that.
Regardless though all the XT1563 are North American friendly in that they have all the LTE bands + AWS bands in UMTS & LTE. So you should be good to go with a Wind unit on Telus outside of getting the phone unlocked (SIM) if indeed Wind locks them. I know that Telus /Koodo /Bell are locked.

Tim3tripp3r said:
AWS bands - no LTE.
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*sigh*... AWS IS an LTE... LTE isn't a frequency, it's a technology. AWS refers to a band, within the LTE spectrum. LTE/UMTS are competing technologies, essentially using different languages to communicate over the same frequencies. Different languages have different capacities for transferring data, different frequencies allow for less distortion or less interference from other carriers, and other towers of the same carrier.

AWS bands come in 3G and LTE flavors. Wind Mobile doesn't have LTE services deployed on their network.
See screen shots.
The Moto X Play will run quite happily on 3G AWS 1700/2100 on the Wind Mobile network but will be limited in data speeds to 3G network.
On Telus the Moto X Play will use the same AWS 1700/2100 but because Telus has LTE deployment it will have way faster d/l speeds.
It was a fair question from the o/p in that it is a very common occurrence to have phones not working on Wind that have been bought elsewhere. I'm sure he was asking in case that the reverse was true which in this case is not.
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*sigh*... AWS IS an LTE... LTE isn't a frequency, it's a technology. AWS refers to a band, within the LTE spectrum. LTE/UMTS are competing technologies, essentially using different languages to communicate over the same frequencies. Different languages have different capacities for transferring data, different frequencies allow for less distortion or less interference from other carriers, and other towers of the same carrier.
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Sorry to bump an old thread, but I just bought an x play on wind and I am having troubles with the reception. First I had a moto e with them and it worked fine displaying the "H+" symbol and fast data speeds. This moto x play I just bought, worked fine the first day, but now only shows 3G. I installed the two upgrades for moto x play, and now I am currently on the 6.0.1. anyonewith the same problem? I will be calling wind mobile soon, since I am unable to find a solution.

Ev0luti0n_ said:
Sorry to bump an old thread, but I just bought an x play on wind and I am having troubles with the reception. First I had a moto e with them and it worked fine displaying the "H+" symbol and fast data speeds. This moto x play I just bought, worked fine the first day, but now only shows 3G. I installed the two upgrades for moto x play, and now I am currently on the 6.0.1. anyonewith the same problem? I will be calling wind mobile soon, since I am unable to find a solution.
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See this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/windmobile...nd_changed_something_around_vancouver/cxs5afb
Do speedtests, you'll notice you are getting above 3g speeds.

Will this work on AT&T with lte

Just wondering if this will work on att or straight talk with lte or even h+??
Thanks
Also isn't this phone the moto x play but renamed for Verizon? (BC same specs, size, screen, battery) lol
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We have tried it with cricket Wireless.
We have tried it with Cricket Wireless with no issue, and Cricket is now owned by AT&T

Yes it should work on AT&T as it supports LTE Bands 2/4/5 where available. In areas that this phone will not work on LTE it will drop down to 4G(HSPA+ or H+) on AT&T or Cricket, or H2O, or Airvoice, or Consumer Cellular, etc.
Also supports T-Mobile's LTE on Bands 2/4. Band 4 for Major city's T-Mobile LTE and Band 2 for some rural areas T-Mobile LTE.