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So I'm looking to buy the Moto G 2014, and every review I've seen so far describes the performance as "OK, Fine, Not bad", even though my sister has a Galaxy S3 Neo (Which is running the same SOC but with a 0.5GB more ram) and the performance is stunning. So what do you think about it ? and if a ROM can make it even a better runner be sure to tell me.
Thanks a million !
Moto G xt1068 will be best in this price range..
It has got a lot of development.
Performance on Stock is fine, but the animations smoothness are crap, partially because Stock is 5.0.2, partially motorola's fault. Install an AOSP ROM (not CM12.1, it has some unnescessary things) and a decent kernel and then the performance will be way better. Its a good performance overall, for a 2013 mid range CPU.
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Thanks guys !! Really appreciate the help !
For what you pay you get better than OK
How much do you think it's ok to spend on extra 0.5gb ram? USD 20-25 I think its ok, but how much I will pay to not have touchwiz on my phone it's priceless.
I'm wondering what people describe as fine. I had a Nexus 5 before and a friend's original Moto G seemed decent, so when mine broke I bought a Moto G (Gen 2.)
I've had it a few weeks and it seems to get laggier and laggier. Most apps take up to a full second to load, there are a couple that take multiple seconds. It often can't keep up with how fast I type and will lag hard so I'll have to stop and wait otherwise it will miss letters or start thinking I'm swiping and just input random words. Most of my friends who have upgraded to lollipop have complained about how laggy it is (but I thought it was supposed to run on even less resources.) What I want to know is, is there actually something wrong or is this the expected performance of a Moto G running lollipop? I'm finding it nearly unusable. I'm just running the stock rom cause it didn't have a skin. Do I need a custom rom for decent performance?
composite_ said:
I'm wondering what people describe as fine. I had a Nexus 5 before and a friend's original Moto G seemed decent, so when mine broke I bought a Moto G (Gen 2.)
I've had it a few weeks and it seems to get laggier and laggier. Most apps take up to a full second to load, there are a couple that take multiple seconds. It often can't keep up with how fast I type and will lag hard so I'll have to stop and wait otherwise it will miss letters or start thinking I'm swiping and just input random words. Most of my friends who have upgraded to lollipop have complained about how laggy it is (but I thought it was supposed to run on even less resources.) What I want to know is, is there actually something wrong or is this the expected performance of a Moto G running lollipop? I'm finding it nearly unusable. I'm just running the stock rom cause it didn't have a skin. Do I need a custom rom for decent performance?
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flash titan prime 1.0.3 beta, it will blow your socks off
https://romhut.com/roms/titan-prime-rom-for-motorola-moto-g-2014-unified
composite_ said:
I'm wondering what people describe as fine. I had a Nexus 5 before and a friend's original Moto G seemed decent, so when mine broke I bought a Moto G (Gen 2.)
I've had it a few weeks and it seems to get laggier and laggier. Most apps take up to a full second to load, there are a couple that take multiple seconds. It often can't keep up with how fast I type and will lag hard so I'll have to stop and wait otherwise it will miss letters or start thinking I'm swiping and just input random words. Most of my friends who have upgraded to lollipop have complained about how laggy it is (but I thought it was supposed to run on even less resources.) What I want to know is, is there actually something wrong or is this the expected performance of a Moto G running lollipop? I'm finding it nearly unusable. I'm just running the stock rom cause it didn't have a skin. Do I need a custom rom for decent performance?
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Stock 5.0.2 Lollipop, doesn't matter if is Titan Prime or Vanilla stock, it will be laggy, because its Android 5.0.2, if you want a decent performance on Lollipop yes, you will need a 5.1.1 Custom ROM, i think AOSP by LuK1337 has a great performance. Or just flash a 4.4.4 ROM (NOT CM11, its a bit more laggy than stock 4.4.4), i'm using PAC 4.4.4, Its not that stable, but it have 60FPS Animations and a great performance.
Lynse said:
Stock 5.0.2 Lollipop, doesn't matter if is Titan Prime or Vanilla stock, it will be laggy, because its Android 5.0.2, if you want a decent performance on Lollipop yes, you will need a 5.1.1 Custom ROM, i think AOSP by LuK1337 has a great performance. Or just flash a 4.4.4 ROM (NOT CM11, its a bit more laggy than stock 4.4.4), i'm using PAC 4.4.4, Its not that stable, but it have 60FPS Animations and a great performance.
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No Sir, you're absolutely wrong. I tried out AOSP, Quantum OS and even PA. Nothing comes close to how smooth Titan Prime is.
I get 20,000+ on antutu without even tweaking the kernel settings. And that says a lot.
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composite_ said:
I'm wondering what people describe as fine. I had a Nexus 5 before and a friend's original Moto G seemed decent, so when mine broke I bought a Moto G (Gen 2.)
I've had it a few weeks and it seems to get laggier and laggier. Most apps take up to a full second to load, there are a couple that take multiple seconds. It often can't keep up with how fast I type and will lag hard so I'll have to stop and wait otherwise it will miss letters or start thinking I'm swiping and just input random words. Most of my friends who have upgraded to lollipop have complained about how laggy it is (but I thought it was supposed to run on even less resources.) What I want to know is, is there actually something wrong or is this the expected performance of a Moto G running lollipop? I'm finding it nearly unusable. I'm just running the stock rom cause it didn't have a skin. Do I need a custom rom for decent performance?
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Hi, I know exactly how you feel. I had a Nexus 5 and a OnePlus One before my G (Gen 2). Especially, after lollipop it had become so laggy, sometimes, I felt like throwing my phone. I rooted and started flashing roms on the G after I got done with college in the first week of April, and I haven't felt frustrated ever again. Great phone, with great development. If you want a rom that is fool proof, download Titan Prime 1.0.3 and use it with Stellar Kernel 5.0. (Also Xposed works perfectly on it)
I've been playing with Androids for about 2 years now. I'm a root, custom recovery, xposed, cpu tweaker kind of guy. I have never touched a Samsung. My roommate bought the G530T a few months back and did a root/kernel (Trap Kernel and Root on 5.1.1 from about phone) No other mods and minimal app installs.
His problem is the phone is laggy for him compared to his past phone which was a HTC 1GB Ram with the Snapdragon 410. Sometimes going unresponsive, slow to do anything like opening Google. Other than this I have no other info. He wants me to get the phone faster/better.
Being new to messing with a Samsung I have no idea if he has custom recovery. I want to tweak the cpu (governor, and a few settings like that through 3C or kernel adiutor) install xposed and run gravity box, and a few other things.
So what do you guys advise I do first. He isn't happy at all with the phone performance compared to the HTC he had so I told him surely I can get it running good for him. He reboots the phone once every 48 hours and that's about it. He is a minimal user so I can assure you it shouldn't be to many apps installed/opened unless this phone has a potential stock ram leak. I'm gonna do the normal android do this first type things as I'm not a noob but I am when it comes to Samsung. I didn't know there was a built in flash type program similar to custom recovery. That's new to me.
MustangLife03 said:
I've been playing with Androids for about 2 years now. I'm a root, custom recovery, xposed, cpu tweaker kind of guy. I have never touched a Samsung. My roommate bought the G530T a few months back and did a root/kernel (Trap Kernel and Root on 5.1.1 from about phone) No other mods and minimal app installs.
His problem is the phone is laggy for him compared to his past phone which was a HTC 1GB Ram with the Snapdragon 410. Sometimes going unresponsive, slow to do anything like opening Google. Other than this I have no other info. He wants me to get the phone faster/better.
Being new to messing with a Samsung I have no idea if he has custom recovery. I want to tweak the cpu (governor, and a few settings like that through 3C or kernel adiutor) install xposed and run gravity box, and a few other things.
So what do you guys advise I do first. He isn't happy at all with the phone performance compared to the HTC he had so I told him surely I can get it running good for him. He reboots the phone once every 48 hours and that's about it. He is a minimal user so I can assure you it shouldn't be to many apps installed/opened unless this phone has a potential stock ram leak. I'm gonna do the normal android do this first type things as I'm not a noob but I am when it comes to Samsung. I didn't know there was a built in flash type program similar to custom recovery. That's new to me.
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You better check evertthing in this forum, because Samsung is non-developer friendly phone brand, but i advise you to try flash the firmware of that phone (but before getting the firmware, check the phone's baseband, it'll be very important since every Samsung's firmware is different, depends of that baseband's country and variants so Google it first before do anything) and you could find the reqiurements on the net, but if done it wrong , you'll brick the phone
I tried pure nexus resurrection remix aicp and maybe briefly some other rom with the stock kernels and then with elementalx and elite kernel and i found out that all roms i tried except the pure nexus and both kernels (on pure nexus too) make my 6p heat up to insane temperatures almost instantly when running light things such as a web browser (no games or video) and by insane temperatures i mean the upper part of the glass gets nearly too hot to hold and the whole body gets less hot but still very hot. For some reason this does not happen on pure nexus with the stock kernel and it can stay between cool and slightly warm while doing the same things that make other setups nearly melt a hole in the phone. I know all about how the snap 810 runs hotter than other chips but this just cant be normal and on top of that it works flawlessly with the stock purenexus kernel. So, does anyone have any idea what might be causing this? I assume its going to be a rare or maybe even a one off issue, since i don't see much in the way of similar issues from other users but i really have no idea what could cause it. (BTW, each rom was flashed after wiping everything and each kernel with a wipe of both cache options in twrp so i doubt that any issues could be caused by that)
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I tried pure nexus resurrection remix aicp and maybe briefly some other rom with the stock kernels and then with elementalx and elite kernel and i found out that all roms i tried except the pure nexus and both kernels (on pure nexus too) make my 6p heat up to insane temperatures almost instantly when running light things such as a web browser (no games or video) and by insane temperatures i mean the upper part of the glass gets nearly too hot to hold and the whole body gets less hot but still very hot. For some reason this does not happen on pure nexus with the stock kernel and it can stay between cool and slightly warm while doing the same things that make other setups nearly melt a hole in the phone. I know all about how the snap 810 runs hotter than other chips but this just cant be normal and on top of that it works flawlessly with the stock purenexus kernel. So, does anyone have any idea what might be causing this? I assume its going to be a rare or maybe even a one off issue, since i don't see much in the way of similar issues from other users but i really have no idea what could cause it. (BTW, each rom was flashed after wiping everything and each kernel with a wipe of both cache options in twrp so i doubt that any issues could be caused by that)
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I would change the Title of the thread. People will think that you're criticizing a developer's work.
It's called.... Excellent Engineering!
There was a Mercedes-Benz commercial in there somewhere but oh well....
I'm sure there are kernel tweaks involved that are keeping that ROM steady out at lower temps
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Hmmm... i wonder if anyone else gets this huge temp variation between purenexus and other roms, it doesn't seem so just from quickly going over some comments on the rom threads.. Might have to check if frequencies behave in a different way on purenexus [BTW, changed title as it probably was hinting at me hating the rom or something]
I got this Moto X Pure just the other day and I'm curious as to what you guys think would run faster. I want root on my device. I rooted my device on stock, but it seemed to slow it down a fair amount, so I tried the TruPureX ROM and it's Antutu benchmark was significantly lower than stock (causing me to believe it'd slow down tremendously over time). So now, I'm currently downloading CM 13 for my device and I just want to know whether you think it'll run smoothly or not. Are there any functions that I'll lose (other than the stock moto app and the gestures, which I know are included with it anyways in a Cyanogenmod style). I read in one forum that the bottom half IR sensors simply don't work, but that was posted 5 months ago. Even if they are, does it still work the same for the most part?
Any answers are very much appreciated. Long story short, I just wanna know if CM 13 is a good idea for me. (It was a terrible idea on the G4 I came from, left the phone with a broken WiFi module, I believe.)
Thanks folks!!!
Ozzy0708 said:
I got this Moto X Pure just the other day and I'm curious as to what you guys think would run faster. I want root on my device. I rooted my device on stock, but it seemed to slow it down a fair amount, so I tried the TruPureX ROM and it's Antutu benchmark was significantly lower than stock (causing me to believe it'd slow down tremendously over time). So now, I'm currently downloading CM 13 for my device and I just want to know whether you think it'll run smoothly or not. Are there any functions that I'll lose (other than the stock moto app and the gestures, which I know are included with it anyways in a Cyanogenmod style). I read in one forum that the bottom half IR sensors simply don't work, but that was posted 5 months ago. Even if they are, does it still work the same for the most part?
Any answers are very much appreciated. Long story short, I just wanna know if CM 13 is a good idea for me. (It was a terrible idea on the G4 I came from, left the phone with a broken WiFi module, I believe.)
Thanks folks!!!
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Rooting has ZERO effect on device speed or performance, although what you do with it could have an effect. A purely stock ROM and a stock rooted ROM should should perform identically.
Is CM13 good for you? Who knows, that depends on your wants and needs, but in the end only you can answer that... Do a nandroid backup and flash it and try it out, if it doesn't do what you want, try a different ROM and just keep trying different ones until you find one that does do what you need, if you can't find one then restore your nandroid backup.
acejavelin said:
Rooting has ZERO effect on device speed or performance, although what you do with it could have an effect. A purely stock ROM and a stock rooted ROM should should perform identically.
Is CM13 good for you? Who knows, that depends on your wants and needs, but in the end only you can answer that... Do a nandroid backup and flash it and try it out, if it doesn't do what you want, try a different ROM and just keep trying different ones until you find one that does do what you need, if you can't find one then restore your nandroid backup.
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Thanks for the advice. I appreciate it.
Since quite some time I am having some peculiar performance problems on my Motorola Moto X Force. Sometimes any interaction (like just opening Chrome for example) takes incredibly long until it responds. This also happens after clearing all apps in the task switcher and it can also happen pretty soon after rebooting the phone. Imho a phone with a 4x 2.00GHz Cortex-A57 + 4x 1.50GHz Cortex-A53 (Qualcomm MSM8994 Snapdragon 810, 64bit) and 3 GiB RAM should not have such problems.
Thinking some app might hog the CPU in the background (though I do not have any battery problems - it can go for over 48 hours without charging) I installed some system monitoring apps in order to get to the bottom of this. One app, System Monitor Lite has the ability to log in the background, when enabled. I wanted to check if I can correlate CPU or RAM usage with the periods where the phone runs slow.
However once the background logging of that app is active, the phone immediately runs noticeably smoother! And it runs smooth as long as the background logging is active. Once I turn it off, the phone will get slow again after some time. This makes me think now that this phone (or Android 7.0) has a power management problem. i.e. letting the CPU(s) run in a low performance state, when it should not.
Has anyone else ever experienced something like that or any ideas how to combat this?
Dude that thread is not for moto x force, just the moto x 2013! search the right thread for ur device.
Thread? Do you mean the Moto X General sub forum? There is no Moto X Force sub forum as far as I can see.
Spooky_ said:
Thread? Do you mean the Moto X General sub forum? There is no Moto X Force sub forum as far as I can see.
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Moto X droid turbo 2 is the name in another variants -- https://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo-2
Thank you, I did not realize that. I only used the Search on the front page. The thread has been moved now.
Hello, friend! I am having problems like yours too. That´s annoying me. I just used this phone from about 1 and a half year without performance issues, but from 2 months until now it started with stock rom, so i rooted and flashed Lineage OS. It runned smoth for a little time (3 weeks), but after that the phone got slower and slower no matter what i did. Got heating problems too, A LOT heating.
So i clean flashed Ressurrection Remix, and it was a charm at beggining! Very smooth, but after a few days it started the same thing as always, but the heating got lower.
So, i´m finished with this phone, i think the "Planned obsolescence" got us. It´s a 2015 phone and makers wants us to move on and buy another.
But, while i dont buy a new phone, i´m accepting the challenge to make my XForce runs smooth again. I´ll try this monitoring app you said and then i´ll flash another rom, the "Stock L!ite" from CrashXXL here on XDA.
I´ll post my feedback here.
Yeah, I'll also just get rid of it soon.