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Swear to all gods, old and new: all I did was switch from Dalvik to ART and BAM! Instant improved battery life.
Try it for yourself. Won't hurt and you can always revert back efortlessly.
Cheers! :good:
Any other advantages/disadvantages of using ART rather than Dalvik noted? And what ROM are you on?
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bishteca said:
Swear to all gods, old and new: all I did was switch from Dalvik to ART and BAM! Instant improved battery life.
Try it for yourself. Won't hurt and you can always revert back efortlessly.
Cheers! :good:
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I am scared to switch it on 442 unrooted x.
Are you unlocked? Rooted?
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There are horror stories on x section.
When i first got my Moto G, before I unlocked and rooted it, I switched to ART while on stock, and it worked fine.
Since then I have unlocked the bootloader, rooted, and installed some Xposed stuf.
Now when I go to switch to ART, the phone just reboots normally, doesn't update any apps, and I'm still on Dalvik??
Anyone have any ideas??
ATRIXXIRTA said:
When i first got my Moto G, before I unlocked and rooted it, I switched to ART while on stock, and it worked fine.
Since then I have unlocked the bootloader, rooted, and installed some Xposed stuf.
Now when I go to switch to ART, the phone just reboots normally, doesn't update any apps, and I'm still on Dalvik??
Anyone have any ideas??
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ART is not compatible with Xposed.
rogeriorp said:
ART is not compatible with Xposed.
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ahhhhh..... gotcha.... so its either one or the other eh?
I think I will keep xposed just because I LOVE having a center clock, lol.
Thanks for that.
I knew that from when I had my Xperia ZL, but for some reason I was thinking it was device specific.
ATRIXXIRTA said:
When i first got my Moto G, before I unlocked and rooted it, I switched to ART while on stock, and it worked fine.
Since then I have unlocked the bootloader, rooted, and installed some Xposed stuf.
Now when I go to switch to ART, the phone just reboots normally, doesn't update any apps, and I'm still on Dalvik??
Anyone have any ideas??
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Can't used xposed with art. edit: late reply ninja'd already
So the horrors could be only due to Xposed & other mods? Art is safe on stock?
In past i tried both dalvik and art and, more or less, i hadthe same amazing battery time
c0mmando said:
Any other advantages/disadvantages of using ART rather than Dalvik noted? And what ROM are you on?
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Stock rom, unlocked bootloader and rooted.
Dual sim, by the way, so not many roms out there (if any, I think...).
I read it somewhere that ART makes apps launch slightly slower, but I didn't really feel any difference in real life usage. Maybe we're talking about miliseconds here, totally unnoticeable, mainly with skype and facebook apps, which normally take a few seconds to launch anyway. The rest are as snappy as can be.
ATRIXXIRTA said:
When i first got my Moto G, before I unlocked and rooted it, I switched to ART while on stock, and it worked fine.
Since then I have unlocked the bootloader, rooted, and installed some Xposed stuf.
Now when I go to switch to ART, the phone just reboots normally, doesn't update any apps, and I'm still on Dalvik??
Anyone have any ideas??
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Yep, it's because of Xposed. If you can't live without its improvements (which are great, no doubt), you can't have ART.
I had Gravity Box, but turned out the only function I used was the quick access to tiles (you know, pull drawer on right half of screen). I get by without it.
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So the horrors could be only due to Xposed & other mods? Art is safe on stock?
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I can't say for Moto X, but for my Moto G the change was seamless. Except for the improved battery life, the rest feels pretty much the same. Of course, it all depends on how much you use your phone. I'm usually a light user, usually on wifi, just getting email push, some messaging, a few calls, but yesterday I did some pretty heavy 3G, screen on for a long time, localization services and it appeared to have behaved quite better than on Dalvik.
But be aware that once you change, the phone asks for a reboot and it can take quite a while to do so. You might even get a black screen for a while and when it shows something like "Updating apps 10/150" it can hang on a number for a while, it may appear to freeze but be patient, go to he kitchen, play with your pet. And be sure to have like 30-50% battery life, I have no idea what can happen if the battery runs out in the middle of the process. Probably nothing, but just in case, right?
bishteca said:
Stock rom, unlocked bootloader and rooted.
Dual sim, by the way, so not many roms out there (if any, I think...).
I read it somewhere that ART makes apps launch slightly slower, but I didn't really feel any difference in real life usage. Maybe we're talking about miliseconds here, totally unnoticeable, mainly with skype and facebook apps, which normally take a few seconds to launch anyway. The rest are as snappy as can be.
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Every device I've ever switched to ART has always benchmarked lower than when on dalvik. Not that it matters. I just find it odd
bishteca said:
Stock rom, unlocked bootloader and rooted.
Dual sim, by the way, so not many roms out there (if any, I think...).
I read it somewhere that ART makes apps launch slightly slower, but I didn't really feel any difference in real life usage. Maybe we're talking about miliseconds here, totally unnoticeable, mainly with skype and facebook apps, which normally take a few seconds to launch anyway. The rest are as snappy as can be.
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I was gettingI worse battery life today for some reason. thought something was wrong after I installed xposed. Turns out I'm just a forgetful dumbass and forgot I had enabled GPS and location settings to test it's impact on battery... Lol
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I'm using art from the very first day, and I have exceptional battery life with everything turned on except Bluetooth (not using it at the moment) - about 24 hours
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'Camera unabled to start'
I get this message when on Dalvik, but never when on ART. Also, on Dalvik my play store crashes and so does: com.android.system.ui
Fed up it, so switching to ART again, but this causes my phone to heat up loads.
Thoughts, should I factory reset?
sohambapat99 said:
I get this message when on Dalvik, but never when on ART. Also, on Dalvik my play store crashes and so does: com.android.system.ui
Fed up it, so switching to ART again, but this causes my phone to heat up loads.
Thoughts, should I factory reset?
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I would. I don't have any issues on dalvik. And when I was using art (before I installed xposed), there wasn't anything I could do to heat this phone up. I've had 2 devices with the snapdragon s4 pro chip (optimus g, xperia zl) and that chip could cook your breakfast!!! This snapdragon 400 has impressed the pants off me so far!
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Really?
ATRIXXIRTA said:
I would. I don't have any issues on dalvik. And when I was using art (before I installed xposed), there wasn't anything I could do to heat this phone up. I've had 2 devices with the snapdragon s4 pro chip (optimus g, xperia zl) and that chip could cook your breakfast!!! This snapdragon 400 has impressed the pants off me so far!
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Forgive me for being a total noob here , but would the processor heat cause the battery to heat up?
Does your battery heat up? After 45 minutes of gaming Asphalt 8, mine cooks up to a massive 52.5 degrees celsius- I have a leather case on it so i don't notice it that much but when I took it out it was so hot!
BTW I'm non rooted, stock rom etc...
Do you have root and have you underclocked it?
Any intense 3d gaming will heat up just about any device. There is no room for cooling these CPUs inside these phones, so they are prone to heat increases when pushed hard. I haven't played any intense 3d games on this yet. I just know that it doesn't heat up anything like my s4 pro devices used to.
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sohambapat99 said:
Forgive me for being a total noob here , but would the processor heat cause the battery to heat up?
Does your battery heat up? After 45 minutes of gaming Asphalt 8, mine cooks up to a massive 52.5 degrees celsius- I have a leather case on it so i don't notice it that much but when I took it out it was so hot!
BTW I'm non rooted, stock rom etc...
Do you have root and have you underclocked it?
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And of course a leather case works as isolation, try not using the case, temp might drop some degrees then
Is it not risky ?
Please dont ask where to get it or if you are from soak or not we have plenty of threads asking that, just opinions please.
Hi guys, i wanted to know how do you feel this pre-release of lollipop, so far i just installed it and had no problem with it. seems smooth not a single error.
some guys says the drain battery issue was fixed, but i have to see for myself, so how is your experience so far?
Jaocagomez said:
Please dont ask where to get it or if you are from soak or not we have plenty of threads asking that, just opinions please.
Hi guys, i wanted to know how do you feel this pre-release of lollipop, so far i just installed it and had no problem with it. seems smooth not a single error.
some guys says the drain battery issue was fixed, but i have to see for myself, so how is your experience so far?
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Working great so far for me. Had a little bit of lag that went away as soon as I did a factory days reset. Can't comment on standby battery life since I have been pounding this thing all day. But → now I am at 41% with 4 hours and 23 minutes of screen time.
I do have an issue with Nokia's Here navigation app, but it may be that it is not lollipop compatible. Have not dug around to see if that is the case.
All in all, this is a very solid release, and I will probably stick with it. At least until custom roms start coming out for moto maxx.
Any camera improvements?
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poncespr said:
Working great so far for me. Had a little bit of lag that went away as soon as I did a factory days reset. Can't comment on standby battery life since I have been pounding this thing all day. But → now I am at 41% with 4 hours and 23 minutes of screen time.
I do have an issue with Nokia's Here navigation app, but it may be that it is not lollipop compatible. Have not dug around to see if that is the case.
All in all, this is a very solid release, and I will probably stick with it. At least until custom roms start coming out for moto maxx.
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specific app problems should be addressed by their respective creator, its the app fault to not be ready for lollipop
fsiddique said:
Any camera improvements?
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yes i've seen focus improvements
also the low speaker volume seems fixed on ringtone speaker as well in-call speaker.
I get like 2 or 3 freezes a day, phone becomes totally unresponsive for 10 seconds or so.
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All devices than get lollipop is better have factory reset for good perfomance
Am i having one of them, whatchamacallit, placebo effect, or has the bluetooth streaming quality improved.?
I think my music sounds better.
Any one else?
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Bluetooth music streaming seems to drop or pause for a second every few minutes
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Turning bluetooth off and then back on seems to have solved the issue so far.
it take it 4% in one night in stanby
battery seems the same to me.
have some lags and some freezing too for 30 seconds -1 minute
hope Moto will solve this problems
Did you guys clean installed? Because I did, I cleared user data and cache
For those with the freezing/stuttering/lag issues, did you perform a factory data reset prior to installing the OTA?
poncespr said:
All in all, this is a very solid release, and I will probably stick with it. At least until custom roms start coming out for moto maxx.
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Or Lolllipop version of Gravity Box that will soon hit, now that Xposed has been recoded for ART/Lollipop. Gravity Box dev says it's coming soon.
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Did you guys clean installed? Because I did, I cleared user data and cache
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I did a factory data reset after installing. That took care mostly of the lag, but i keep having bluetooth issues.
Sometimes streaming music pauses on my Bluetooth music speaker, and it drops the connection on my stereo
headset. Things that do not happen with my older phones.
In all fairness, it could be because of the hybrid Brazil/Puerto Rico thing, but honestly, I don't think so as I was already having
Bluetooth issues before. Plus, everything else is working great. Signal is rock solid and I get LTE with no problems at all.
May have a defective phone.
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Or Lolllipop version of Gravity Box that will soon hit, now that Xposed has been recoded for ART/Lollipop. Gravity Box dev says it's coming soon.
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Yes. I actually did not miss custom roms on kitkat with gravity box.
I hope they iron out the kinks soon!
Which version did they push? 5.0,.01, or .02?
.02
good so far
I haven't found any bug. I see volumen calls, screen brigthness, battery life improvement.
Everything runs smooth. Now i see the diference between my droid maxx and this.
47hrs.
some bugs i've noticed so far:
Sometimes when connected on a wifi network, disconnects and reconnects again, this didnt happen on kitkat, happens randomly
When listening to google play music and then receive a notification the music doesn't resume again, you have to click pause and play to resume to playing the song.
My impressions are great!! I did a full convert to BRZ firmware from PR Moto Maxx flashed every file, full wiped in fastboot, then did the OTA zip. So far it has been amazing, specially smoothness and battery life!!
Of course, im rooted and running Greenify, plus froze unnecessary stuff. (I dont use none of the moto stuff)
If you upgraded and having performance issue with stuttering and lags, I highly recommend performing a factory reset. I did mine through recovery and wiped Data & Cache.
That made a massive difference.
I have an wifi issue, it's not turning on at all. On 4.4 it's working fine, even on BR firmware (my phone is PR). Is Anybody met this?
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My impressions are great!! I did a full convert to BRZ firmware from PR Moto Maxx flashed every file, full wiped in fastboot, then did the OTA zip. So far it has been amazing, specially smoothness and battery life!!
Of course, im rooted and running Greenify, plus froze unnecessary stuff. (I dont use none of the moto stuff)
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When you say "flashed every file" do you mean just the system image files in the OP of the lollipop install thread or do you literally mean every file (I.e. bootloader, radio, etc)? I've been wanting to go this route of converting my PR Maxx to Brazilian retail 100% as well by flashing all the files.
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This device is amazing, or at least was supposed to be. Almost stock android, a good camera, a ridiculously strong chipset, gorgeous screen and tremendous battery capacity.
What could possibly make this phone be anything but awesome? The software!
Motorola may have been on the right direction with these almost pure Android devices and their smart and functional features, but they should urgently look out for some software issues.
1- KitKat on Moto Maxx have a huge battery drain problem when the phone is in stand by mode, never got fixed, and if you use art runtime you have to wait more than 3 minutes to have your devices booted up. Cyanogenmod developers could theach Motorola engineers how to resolve this. That's absurd to me.
2- I'm on the soak test, the super anticipated lollipop, I thought Motorola was leaving KitKat full of bugs to work better on lollipop, but now I have lollipop and things did not get better, I can't and I won't talk about it in details, but it is ridiculous. I had a Galaxy S2, a Galaxy S3 and after that I had a LG G2, though LG and Samsung used to make we wait a lot for updates I saw Cyanogenmod, paranoid, etc ROMs getting around bugs on their alpha and beta ROMs a lot faster then the official Motorola engineers, and I assume they are being well paid by Motorola to work on it.
Moto Maxx have no custom ROMs, no custom kernel, I wish I could do something to change this scenario, but I know nothing about programing. I'm trying hard to like this phone, but it is quite difficult right now, no community, no fast updates, lags, bugs, and the Snapdragon 805 hate the heat so much that the phone appears to be using a low cost processor when it gets hot even when it's not on heavy usage, and I'm not talking about the soak test, I experienced problems since KitKat, looks like they don't care at all. Right now I'm very frustrated, I regret a lot buying this phone and I can't even find anyone willing to buy it, Motorola needs a better development team, cause if things keep going this way, I'll never buy another Motorola device.
RaphaDL said:
KitKat on Moto Maxx have a huge battery drain problem when the phone is in stand by mode, never got fixed, and if you use art runtime you have to wait more than 3 minutes to have your devices booted up. Cyanogenmod developers could theach Motorola engineers how to resolve this. That's absurd to me.
Moto Maxx have no custom ROMs, no custom kernel, I wish I could do something to change this scenario, but I know nothing about programing. I'm trying hard to like this phone, but it is quite difficult right now, no community, no fast updates, lags, bugs, and the Snapdragon 805 hate the heat so much that the phone appears to be using a low cost processor when it gets hot even when it's not on heavy usage, and I'm not talking about the soak test, I experienced problems since KitKat, looks like they don't care at all. Right now I'm very frustrated, I regret a lot buying this phone and I can't even find anyone willing to buy it, Motorola needs a better development team, cause if things keep going this way, I'll never buy another Motorola device.
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Sorry about your phone. That's not how my two Moto Maxx phones act.
* I don't wait 3 minutes to have my device boot up. Maybe you got a lemon? If your phone is taking over 45 seconds to boot, something is wrong with your phone. My main phone (on Dalvik) boots in 45 seconds with over 300 apps. I just timed it; and that includes the time it takes to unlock the security code.
My second Moto Maxx (on ART) boots in 20 seconds to desktop from the time I hit the power button. Here's a video proving it:
MOTO MAXX BOOTING ON ART
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Swf3rS6-vc
Somebody asked me to make the video because the CDMA Droid Turbo XT1254 has some kind of ART problem, which the "international" Moto Maxx XT1225 seemingly does not. But this proves the Moto Maxx XT1225 boots extremely fast not only on Dalvik but on ART also.
One phone has all my apps installed (over 300), the other does not as I'm keeping it in "new in the box" condition to sell with even the screen protector on. I only take it out to compare to my first phone when necessary. But with two phones, neither even over a minute, shows something is wrong with your phone.
* My battery lasts so much longer than my Nexus 5. Well, it's a bigger battery! Haven't noticed any quick drain. But maybe that's because my Nexus 5 battery was too small and this one is great by comparison.
* Haven't noticed the heat of the Snapdragon 805, but I have heard complaints about the Snapdragon 810. I use a Tech21 case, so maybe I'm just not feeling the heat.
* A dev -- @Skrilax_CZ --in this forum is working on CM12 for us.
Until then, I'm running my daily phone on Dalvik with xposed/Gravity Box toolkit. There is the custom ROM you are looking for...
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1. Although standby drain could be better, mine isn't too bad. How strong is the signal in your area? Are you leaving Bluetooth, auto sync, etc on? Have you tried a factory reset as a last resort?
2. It's a soak test, not the final software. No one knows for sure the reason for the delay in rolling it out, but some of the bugs may be fixed or resolved in the official update (which could be 5.1).
3. I would never buy a phone on the premise that it would get strong developer support. It's something that's tough to guarantee unless you know for definite that devs are getting the phone. In this instance I agree that Moto take some of the blame here for not releasing the Maxx worldwide, but then again it's not their duty to ensure any device of theirs has strong 3rd party support.
RaphaDL said:
This device is amazing, or at least was supposed to be. Almost stock android, a good camera, a ridiculously strong chipset, gorgeous screen and tremendous battery capacity.
What could possibly make this phone be anything but awesome? The software!
Motorola may have been on the right direction with these almost pure Android devices and their smart and functional features, but they should urgently look out for some software issues.
1- KitKat on Moto Maxx have a huge battery drain problem when the phone is in stand by mode, never got fixed, and if you use art runtime you have to wait more than 3 minutes to have your devices booted up. Cyanogenmod developers could theach Motorola engineers how to resolve this. That's absurd to me.
2- I'm on the soak test, the super anticipated lollipop, I thought Motorola was leaving KitKat full of bugs to work better on lollipop, but now I have lollipop and things did not get better, I can't and I won't talk about it in details, but it is ridiculous. I had a Galaxy S2, a Galaxy S3 and after that I had a LG G2, though LG and Samsung used to make we wait a lot for updates I saw Cyanogenmod, paranoid, etc ROMs getting around bugs on their alpha and beta ROMs a lot faster then the official Motorola engineers, and I assume they are being well paid by Motorola to work on it.
Moto Maxx have no custom ROMs, no custom kernel, I wish I could do something to change this scenario, but I know nothing about programing. I'm trying hard to like this phone, but it is quite difficult right now, no community, no fast updates, lags, bugs, and the Snapdragon 805 hate the heat so much that the phone appears to be using a low cost processor when it gets hot even when it's not on heavy usage, and I'm not talking about the soak test, I experienced problems since KitKat, looks like they don't care at all. Right now I'm very frustrated, I regret a lot buying this phone and I can't even find anyone willing to buy it, Motorola needs a better development team, cause if things keep going this way, I'll never buy another Motorola device.
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1) I'm agree with the battery problem, I come from a Nexus 5 who barely had 1%-2% battery drain over night, and then comes the Maxx with around 15% battery drain overnight, but I have discovered that this is because of the sensors and the GPS accuracy. The biggest drain here is "wave to silence" and "approach to display" functions, under the "Actions" on Moto application. When I disabled those, half of my drain was no more. Besides this, put the location on "Battery Saving", it makes a great difference with "High Accuracy". I'm always reaching around 40hrs on battery and at least 4hrs on screen with just this little changes, everything else is activated and synced all the time.
2) I can't talk about Lollipop, no idea when is coming to my device.
3) About ROM's and kernels, we should wait, there device is still "new" in the market and is not widespread, maybe the launch in India would give us more developers and people who want to participate on this device.
The device is really good, but if you are into customization and ROM's, maybe you should picked the Nexus 6. For me, stock ROM is enough.
About the heat, try to run any benchmark 3 times in a row. Or play a heavy game for more than 15 minutes. Or try to play a game while you charge the phone with it's fast charger. You feel your phone getting slower and slower.
About the battery, as I said, I used to own a LG G2, a 3000mah battery phone. And it's battery life was better on stand by. Overnight my Moto Maxx loses almost 10% of juice, while the G2 used to lose only 2% on the same condition. And I saw a lot of people with this same problem. Having in mind that the Moto Maxx has a 3900mah this is unacceptable.
About ART, well, I can't reproduce my tests anymore cause I'm on lollipop, but when I was using ART on KitKat my phone used to load up all my apps "Updating system" like on every single boot, and I asked other people to reproduce the test and their phone behavior was exactly equal, so maybe the fact that your phone is almost unused is causing you not to feel this problem.
About custom ROMs, I'm waiting for CM12! I emailed the dev already saying that I'm willing to give any help or donation he needs.
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About ART, well, I can't reproduce my tests anymore cause I'm on lollipop, but when I was using ART on KitKat my phone used to load up all my apps "Updating system" like on every single boot, and I asked other people to reproduce the test and their phone behavior was exactly equal, so maybe the fact that your phone is almost unused is causing you not to feel this problem.
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Well, I posted a video to prove the fast boot time for ART. 20 seconds. True that phone only has stock apps.
My other phone with 322 apps takes 45 seconds to boot, and yes it's on Dalvik.
OK, here's what I will do. I will make a new TWRP backup. I will uninstall all my xposed modules, switch temporarily to ART, and boot. Not sure if I will be able to make a video here while at work, but I can time it. Will post results back.
Then, I'll restore my backup.
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Well, I posted a video to prove the fast boot time for ART. 20 seconds. True that phone only has stock apps.
My other phone with 322 apps takes 45 seconds to boot, and yes it's on Dalvik.
OK, here's what I will do. I will make a new TWRP backup. I will uninstall all my xposed modules, switch temporarily to ART, and boot. Not sure if I will be able to make a video here while at work, but I can time it. Will post results back.
Then, I'll restore my backup.
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Thank you, dude, but you don't need to go through all this trouble. I tested it on 3 Moto Maxx with KitKat and the 3 presented the exactly same problem.
And that's not much of a problem since Lollipop doesn't have this behavior and it uses ART. I just brought that up to illustrate how behind Motorola are when the subject is software.
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About ART, well, I can't reproduce my tests anymore cause I'm on lollipop, but when I was using ART on KitKat my phone used to load up all my apps "Updating system" like on every single boot, and I asked other people to reproduce the test and their phone behavior was exactly equal, so maybe the fact that your phone is almost unused is causing you not to feel this problem.
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Well, I posted a video to prove the fast boot time for ART. 20 seconds. True that phone only has stock apps.
My other phone with 322 apps takes 45 seconds to boot, and yes it's on Dalvik.
OK, here's what I will do. I will make a new TWRP backup. I will uninstall all my xposed modules, switch temporarily to ART, and boot. Not sure if I will be able to make a video here while at work, but I can time it. Will post results back.
Then, I'll restore my backup.
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On ART (xposed apps disabled) my main phone with over 300 apps takes 30 seconds to boot to desktop. Something is wrong with your phone.
I'll make a video later.
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EDIT: I was still on Dalvik. ARghhh. ART will not stick. Trying to figure out why.
ChazzMatt said:
On ART (xposed apps disabled) my main phone with over 300 apps takes 30 seconds to boot to desktop. Something is wrong with your phone.
I'll make a video later.
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On what country you bought your phone? Maybe that's something related to Brazilian Moto Maxx only. I really wish I have recorded in video the tests I made.
ChazzMatt said:
On ART (xposed apps disabled) my main phone with over 300 apps takes 30 seconds to boot to desktop. Something is wrong with your phone.
I'll make a video later.
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Hmmmm.... I'm having a hard time making ART stick. I've uninstalled all my xposed modules, but every time I reboot it's back on Dalvik. Anyone have any ideas?
Art dont work well in kitkat, maybe you should try Lollipop, for custom roms, need found more devs with devices, cm 12 comes in some times, but of have more devs maybe we have some kernels
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Art dont work well in kitkat, maybe you should try Lollipop, for custom roms, need found more devs with devices, cm 12 comes in some times, but of have more devs maybe we have some kernels
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Maybe we should gather some money and donate a device to someone. What you guys think?
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On ART (xposed apps disabled) my main phone with over 300 apps takes 30 seconds to boot to desktop. Something is wrong with your phone.
I'll make a video later.
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EDIT: I was still on Dalvik. ARghhh. ART will not stick. Trying to figure out why.
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OK, I was wrong. ART sucks on KitKat. I finally got ART to stick by flashing the xposed disable zip. Switched to ART, and it went through the initial several minute upgrade for 307 apps. (I had unintalled all my xposed modules).
But now when I turn off the phone and boot back up, still takes several minutes to "optimize" 180 apps. EVERY TIME. MORE than 3 minutes -- more like TEN MINUTES every time.
So, after this third time of ART boot up, when it finishes, I'm restoring my TWRP backup to go back to Dalvik so I can boot up in 45 seconds! :laugh:
Nothing is wrong with your phone for the slow boot up, except you are on ART...
If Lollipop is this way, I'm sticking to Kitkat 4.4.4 and Gravity Box.
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OK, I was wrong. ART sucks on KitKat. I finally got ART to stick by flashing the xposed disable zip. Switched to ART, and it went through the initial several minute upgrade for 307 apps. (I had unintalled all my xposed modules).
But now when I turn off the phone and boot back up, still takes several minutes to "optimize" 180 apps. EVERY TIME. MORE than 3 minutes -- more like TEN MINUTES every time.
So, after this third time of ART boot up, when it finishes, I'm restoring my TWRP backup to go back to Dalvik so I can boot up in 45 seconds! :laugh:
Nothing is wrong with your phone for the slow boot up, except you are on ART...
If Lollipop is this way, I'm sticking to Kitkat 4.4.4 and Gravity Box.
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Exactly.
Lollipop doesn't have this problem, relax. But I'm bringing this problem here just to bring attention to the fact that Motorola have awful software management.
Huge battery, but even bigger battery drain.
Smart features, but no flexibility, why can't we program the sensors to work only when there is a notification to be showed? Why we have to leave the sensors on ALL THE TIME even when we are not using it at all?
Updated software, but small problems that even independent developers are able to get around on other devices. And other than that we can see some incompatibilities, and I'm not taking about soak test, the Moto X 2014 Lollipop bring no integration between Lollipop lockscreen features and Moto benefits.
Motorola must urgently give more attention to the software on their smartphones.
And,guys,we have the same hardware as the Nexus 6, there's absolutely no reason for Motorola not take advantage of that.
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Exactly.
Lollipop doesn't have this problem, relax. But I'm bringing this problem here just to bring attention to the fact that Motorola have awful software management.
Huge battery, but even bigger battery drain.
Smart features, but no flexibility, why can't we program the sensors to work only when there is a notification to be showed? Why we have to leave the sensors on ALL THE TIME even when we are not using it at all?
Updated software, but small problems that even independent developers are able to get around on other devices. And other than that we can see some incompatibilities, and I'm not taking about soak test, the Moto X 2014 Lollipop bring no integration between Lollipop lockscreen features and Moto benefits.
Motorola must urgently give more attention to the software on their smartphones.
And,guys,we have the same hardware as the Nexus 6, there's absolutely no reason for Motorola not take advantage of that.
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Just disable everything under Actions on the Moto app except for the camera, and you should be fine.
It will work as you wanted, just show the notifications where there is one. I have my Maxx since few months like that and it is much better than with those activated. It is annoying besides that everything would turn your screen on.
That would help with the battery drain also.
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Just disable everything under Actions on the Moto app except for the camera, and you should be fine.
It will work as you wanted, just show the notifications where there is one. I have my Maxx since few months like that and it is much better than with those activated. It is annoying besides that everything would turn your screen on.
That would help with the battery drain also.
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Thanks for the tip, but I already tried this.
The movement sensors still turned on all the time, it just disable the waving gesture features. When in a car the screen still turn on every time the car moves, even if there's no notification, also turn on when over a table and the table moves, or over my leg and my leg moves. My point is, sensors still on and for nothing. I would turn this completely off if we had a notification led, but we don't, so I can't.
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Motorola must urgently give more attention to the software on their smartphones.
And,guys,we have the same hardware as the Nexus 6, there's absolutely no reason for Motorola not take advantage of that.
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The movement sensors still turned on all the time, it just disable the waving gesture features. When in a car the screen still turn on every time the car moves, even if there's no notification, also turn on when over a table and the table moves, or over my leg and my leg moves. My point is, sensors still on and for nothing. I would turn this completely off if we had a notification led, but we don't, so I can't.
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Yes, I greatly miss the notification LED from my Nexus 5.
But Nexus 6 is not an option for me. And thank you for reminding people we have the EXACT same hardware as the Nexus 6 and made by the EXACT same company. Motorola has no excuses.
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Thanks for the tip, but I already tried this.
The movement sensors still turned on all the time, it just disable the waving gesture features. When in a car the screen still turn on every time the car moves, even if there's no notification, also turn on when over a table and the table moves, or over my leg and my leg moves. My point is, sensors still on and for nothing. I would turn this completely off if we had a notification led, but we don't, so I can't.
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Hello Rapha in below theme you can find how to make works the notification led that all we have on our moto maxx devices, Im using it right now
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/notification-led-t2960203/page2
I don't know if it's well known, but I found the overall speed/performance to be a little slow. I'm talking about opening apps, and loading them, before they can be used. A simple thing I did was turn off all Moto stuff (Assist, Actions, Display). Not that the phone was bad as it's a very smooth overall device, but after turning off Moto, it really made a difference. All apps open and load much faster, and the UI seems snappier too. I know this may not be good for those who use Moto, but for me the trade off of turning it off is better than the little times I used it. Just thought I'd share in case there are people who are looking to gain a bit of speed.
Another tip is to enable developer options, and change the animations from 1x to .5x. Huge difference in opening apps, and general overall use.
Sent from my MotoE2(4G-LTE)
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Another tip is to enable developer options, and change the animations from 1x to .5x. Huge difference in opening apps, and general overall use.
Sent from my MotoE2(4G-LTE)
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thanks for your tips, i remove all bloatware motorola and have better battery life too
On the topic of improving performance, is there a list of bloatware/apps that are safe to freeze/remove?
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On the topic of improving performance, is there a list of bloatware/apps that are safe to freeze/remove?
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There's not really any bloat. Since the phone is not carrier locked you only get three apps not from Google. Alert, Migrate, and Moto. I guess if you really wanted you can disable the Google apps you don't use, but they are just the standard apps you would use anyway (at least I do) like Maps, Gmail, Hangouts, etc.
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There's not really any bloat. Since the phone is not carrier locked you only get three apps not from Google. Alert, Migrate, and Moto. I guess if you really wanted you can disable the Google apps you don't use, but they are just the standard apps you would use anyway (at least I do) like Maps, Gmail, Hangouts, etc.
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Verizon carries this phone. I just disabled whatever I don't use and my phone is fine.
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There's not really any bloat. Since the phone is not carrier locked you only get three apps not from Google. Alert, Migrate, and Moto. I guess if you really wanted you can disable the Google apps you don't use, but they are just the standard apps you would use anyway (at least I do) like Maps, Gmail, Hangouts, etc.
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Ah sorry, I meant more than just preinstalled apps. I meant background apps and services as well.
I use DroidWall to deny network access to everything except the stuff I need (gmail/web browser/weather widget), and looking at firewall logs I see a ton of moto and google-related services trying to connect to the network even if I don't use them. (DW groups them all into a few "app" entries, so I haven't had time to go through and find the exact culprits). Some of the google ones can be easily disabled (hangouts, drive, etc), but there's more than just those three moto apps that are trying to get network access.
For example, there seems to be some sort of service (Moto Checkin maybe?) that displays a ! warning symbol in the wifi signal meter if that service is not able to connect to some server, even if network access is working in other applications. Disabling that service would help cut down on RAM/CPU usage (even if it's only minute) and network usage (it seems to do this check every 15min or so).
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Found what is causing the exclamation mark. It's an android system process that pings google servers to determine if the phone has a connection to the internet and not just the router. I was thinking it had to do with some Moto service because Droidwall grouped "Android System" in the same app category as a bunch of useless Moto services.
This thread details a bit more about it and how to disable it (I went with method 2A): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58252752&postcount=38
Not having a service trying to ping google every few minutes should help improve battery life and a minute amount of RAM/CPU usage.
pixiebob said:
thanks for your tips, i remove all bloatware motorola and have better battery life too
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/ according to me all the motorola phones come without bloatware and by removing mentioned apps i dont think there must be significant improvements. But definitely changing animations will definitely improve your performance but not the moto apps
Is the device still have memory leak bug. My device is lagging like hell after half an hour use.
The antutu benchmark is also 16163 which is very less i think. My Android One topped upto 22000.
I wrote a post similar to this as well, is there a way we can consolidate it to just this one?
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I don't know if it's well known, but I found the overall speed/performance to be a little slow. I'm talking about opening apps, and loading them, before they can be used. A simple thing I did was turn off all Moto stuff (Assist, Actions, Display). Not that the phone was bad as it's a very smooth overall device, but after turning off Moto, it really made a difference. All apps open and load much faster, and the UI seems snappier too. I know this may not be good for those who use Moto, but for me the trade off of turning it off is better than the little times I used it. Just thought I'd share in case there are people who are looking to gain a bit of speed.
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What's the best way to do this? Go into Apps and disable, or is there a better way to "turn it off"?
Disabling apps basically stops them from ever being active, period: once disabled they don't run anymore, don't have any services run anymore, and they disappear aka become invisible in the apps tray. The only thing they still do is "hang around" meaning they take up space on the device but that's a given. With a proper root and Titanium Backup (the full purchased version) you can completely uninstall said apps but there's always a chance you'll remove something that's integral to something else, especially when you're dealing with either the Google framework stuff or on Motorola devices the Moto system underpinnings.
Best course of action: go into Settings - Apps - and Force close the app, delete all the cached data if there is any and then disable the app(s) as required on the device itself and then go from there. If there's absolutely no issues ever with the functionality of the device then sure, you can do the root/Titanium Backup/uninstall route if necessary but you're not really going to save a ton of space overall.
Most times, disabling an app is more than enough to get it out of the way and stop bothering you for whatever reason(s).
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Another tip is to enable developer options, and change the animations from 1x to .5x. Huge difference in opening apps, and general overall use.
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Thanks, that really made a difference indeed.
I regret buying this, it lags like hell no matter what you do. I feel the moto g 2nd gen runs smoother. It could be the memory leak bug on 5.0.2.
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I regret buying this, it lags like hell no matter what you do. I feel the moto g 2nd gen runs smoother. It could be the memory leak bug on 5.0.2.
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Well you have tweaked stuff since day one. I'm sure that has a lot to do with it. I'm running stock, and the only change system wise I did was change Dev options for animations. I have no complaints as I switch back and forth from this, and my Note 3, and I only notice some slowness opening apps, but no lag, stutter, or anything I would consider bad performance. Maybe try flashing stock image, factory reset, and see how it is then.
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Well you have tweaked stuff since day one. I'm sure that has a lot to do with it. I'm running stock, and the only change system wise I did was change Dev options for animations. I have no complaints as I switch back and forth from this, and my Note 3, and I only notice some slowness opening apps, but no lag, stutter, or anything I would consider bad performance. Maybe try flashing stock image, factory reset, and see how it is then.
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I have to say I agree here, I am also running Stock. I have not seen any serious lag on ths phone except slightly slower loading. And I know what lag feels like as I am the not so proud owner of a TF700 tablet....
All I have done is mod the animations likewise and disabled as much as I can that I don't use.
I run stock and only modified the animation speed and must say the phone lags much more than I anticipated.
Must be Lollipop because my parents both have the Moto G 4g (kitkat) and everytime I need to help them it feels much more fluid than my Moto e.
From loading apps and the play store to even swiftkey that seems to load so much quicker, very weird.
Just tested it yesterday because I thought I was making things up and put my dads phone and mine next to each other and the speed difference when loading apps was making me sad.
I just picked this phone up yesterday to hold me over until the next moto X, or maybe the next nexus.
came from a nexus 5 (only had it a month and well i couldn't live with its awful battery life, it was so bad maybe only 6 hours per charge and the battery was fairly new). now this phone is noticeably slower, but its really not so bad. I do think though that something in this software build for 5.0.2 is slowing it down. when i am using the phone it seems like theres plenty of free ram, but it just feels a little stuttery scrolling through things like a facebook feed. I had a moto x 2013, and a razr M before that, and am a big motorola fan, but I just cant see how this is so slow. it seems like it'd have to be faster than a razr M (which is same resolution, and 1GB ram) but it seems to me that something is really wrong here.
hopefully 5.1 comes out soon.
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thanks for your tips, i remove all bloatware motorola and have better battery life too
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Can you make a few screensshot of disabled apps, please?
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Can you make a few screensshot of disabled apps, please?
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i am in CM12.1 now, this rom is more battery friendly than stock rom so i suggest you to do same.
in CM12.1 all bloatware motorola is removed
Hey all,
I bought a One Plus 2 yesterday (coming from the Galaxy S6) and immediately noticed how unbearably laggy the Oxygen OS was - am I the only one experiencing this? I get a few moments of fluid animations but then things just get choppy, especially compared to the Galaxy S6. I've since put the Chinese Hydrogen version on and it seems a lot more fluid but I just feel like it should be a lot faster? I've been considering just selling it on but this phone is perfect in nearly every other regard.
I was thinking that maybe this is just how things will be until some decent updates come along? Unless I'm the only person experiencing the choppiness.. Then I suppose I should be pretty worried indeed. As a point of reference, I've also used the Moto X 2014 and Z3 Compact which both seemed considerably smoother in operation. Some input from you guys would be great, along with any tips you might have to get the most out of this amazing phone.
Thanks.
Lol coming from an s6 you think its laggy? I switched from an s6 and compared to that this is the fastest phone I've ever had
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Yes it is laggy as oxygen is still on beta, but you should wait and give time as it is a beast, give some time to one plus and they will fix the issues
You did update it right? The build it comes with is as dog**** as the home button is
Just update to 2.0.2 and u'll be fine.
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Yup.. It usually lags when you switch to airplane mode.
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Phone is brand new. OxygenOS is in beta.. Let some development happen man, these specs dont lie
I updated and just got mine! Excited but it is slow. Some things up
Seems fast to me. I showed the OPT to my coworker who has an S6 Edge and he was impressed. He said it was faster than his S6. I didn't even ask him that.
Lol you obviously didn't use the fingerprint sensor to turn it on then or try to go to the home screen pressing the sensor home button. Jk
I've had several phones with fingerprint scanners and this one is by far the fastest so far and the phone is quick. Home button works great also. Maybe I just got lucky.
Yeah mine's pretty slow. I went into a phone store today and tried out the Huawei Mate 7, which on paper looks way behind the Oneplus 2, and it KILLED my OPT when opening apps.
I often get lag here and there, but this is less of a problem for me. My mane gripe is how long it takes to open an app. Like, I hit the Phone icon and it literally takes up to a second to launch. That Mate 7 was practically instant.
What gives, Oneplus?
A lot of the issues I initially had with oxygen were fixed after disabling hardware buttons, including excessive battery drain, heating up, and lag similar to what you're seeing. Maybe it has something to do with grounding? Or maybe I just got used to it :S
This phone is just not meant to be a daily driver with the frustration it brings. If you want to be less mad install cm 12.1. Makes things much better than oxygen
Try flashing OxygenOS 2.0.2 again and then factory reset. You may see a bump in speed. I personally have no quirks with the fluidity of the phone. While it does have some bugs all over the place, never once did the phone feel sluggish. But with that said, the OS does need a lot more polish to really make it feel truly complete. Right now despite all the OTAs OxygenOS still feels incomplete, or maybe its because I'm too used to the versatility of a CM based ROM.
It's slow for about a minute after boot but then things are really fast
Jazza2246 said:
Hey all,
I bought a One Plus 2 yesterday (coming from the Galaxy S6) and immediately noticed how unbearably laggy the Oxygen OS was - am I the only one experiencing this? I get a few moments of fluid animations but then things just get choppy, especially compared to the Galaxy S6. I've since put the Chinese Hydrogen version on and it seems a lot more fluid but I just feel like it should be a lot faster? I've been considering just selling it on but this phone is perfect in nearly every other regard.
I was thinking that maybe this is just how things will be until some decent updates come along? Unless I'm the only person experiencing the choppiness.. Then I suppose I should be pretty worried indeed. As a point of reference, I've also used the Moto X 2014 and Z3 Compact which both seemed considerably smoother in operation. Some input from you guys would be great, along with any tips you might have to get the most out of this amazing phone.
Thanks.
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Actually, the problem is because 2 google apps are using your CPU way too much. Disable the sheets and the slides apps in settings and you should be fine. CPU usage dropped by 40% in cpu-z after disabling these apps.
Update:- actually the CPU now has really less usage after disabling (5% after disabling.).
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Actually, the problem is because 2 google apps are using your CPU way too much. Disable the sheets and the slides apps in settings and you should be fine. CPU usage dropped by 40% in cpu-z after disabling these apps.
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That's something new.. I anyway just remove these apps from my /system..
Im on OOS 2.1.2 rooted.. Having xposed and AK kernel.. No lags.. Super fluid..
For those complaining about the slow app launching, download a 3rd party launcher and you'll see instantly the difference in app launching. I prefer google now launcher to maintain that stock feel.
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That's something new.. I anyway just remove these apps from my /system..
Im on OOS 2.1.2 rooted.. Having xposed and AK kernel.. No lags.. Super fluid..
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You see, I saw some lag and I went to developer options>show CPU usage and the most of the CPU usage came from the sheets and slides apps.