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So, I have an Omnia 7 and am really happy with it, I think it's a great phone with a great operating system, even if it is a phone that was launched in 2010, I think it is still modern and up to date.
Now, I bought a Nokia N9 and really liked the display and finishing materials so
I started thinking what could be if WP had it, then imagine what could
be Lumia 800...
Well, comparing both phones i check that:
3G Network Frequencies:
Lumia 800: HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
Omnia 7: HSDPA 900 / 2100
Dimensions and Weight:
Lumia 800: 116.5 x 61.2 x 12.1 mm, 76.1 cc 142g
Omnia 7: 122.4 x 64.2 x 11 mm 138g
Display:
Lumia 800: AMOLED 16M colors 480 x 800 pixels, 3.7 inches (~252 ppi pixel density)
Omnia 7: Super AMOLED 16M colors 480 x 800 pixels, 4.0 inches (~233 ppi pixel density)
Camera:
Lumia 800: 8 MP, 3264x2448 pixels, Carl Zeiss optics, autofocus, dual-LED flash
Omnia 7: 5 MP, 2592 x 1944 pixels, autofocus, LED flash
Chipset, CPU and GPU:
Lumia 800: Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon 1.4 GHz Scorpion Adreno 205
Omnia 7: Qualcomm QSD8250 Snapdragon 1 GHz Scorpion Adreno 200
Battery:
Lumia 800: Standard battery, Li-Ion 1450 mAh (BV-5JW)
Omnia 7: Standard battery, Li-Ion 1500 mAh
Well, i got this results and what i think that:
Lumia 800 wins in 3G network, camera and Chipset,CPU and GPU
Omnia 7 wins in display and battery
What u thinks guys? Does it worth changing? If anynone could help me with good facts, i really appreciate.
Thanks!
I have had an Omnia 7 since November 2010 - It's been great but I've had terrible network troubles since the Mango update.
I'm now due an upgrade and I think I will be going for the Lumia 800.
I was going to wait for the 900 but I really don't think I'd want anything bigger than the Omnia 7 which is already borderline in terms of size for me. The 800 is gorgeous in person and feels great in the hand. Plus Nokia seem to actually care about their users.
Freypal said:
I was going to wait for the 900 but I really don't think I'd want anything bigger than the Omnia 7 which is already borderline in terms of size for me.
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That's obviously a matter of personal preference and hand size.
I, for example, find 4.3 the ideal screen size, and some additional bulk does not bother me. Also, 900 does not use pentile, which is a big plus for me, since i read a lot on the phone.
d.a.v.o.r said:
That's obviously a matter of personal preference and hand size.
I, for example, find 4.3 the ideal screen size, and some additional bulk does not bother me. Also, 900 does not use pentile, which is a big plus for me, since i read a lot on the phone.
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I've never had an issue with the pentile display and I also read a lot on mine using the kindle app for example.
Freypal said:
I've never had an issue with the pentile display and I also read a lot on mine using the kindle app for example.
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Well, it's not really THAT bad, but the text DOES look noticeably clearer on the RGB screen when you compare side by side.
d.a.v.o.r said:
Well, it's not really THAT bad, but the text DOES look noticeably clearer on the RGB screen when you compare side by side.
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Ah fair dos Never compared one side by side
Nokia Apps
I have omnia 7, too, and its great. I love the amoled display with its great colors, and that is the big difference entering the nokia and the samsung.
But Nokia provides some special apps like maps, drive and (new) public transport.
This might be an advantage if you dont plan to flash or unlock ur device...
fadenfisch95 said:
I have omnia 7, too, and its great. I love the amoled display with its great colors, and that is the big difference entering the nokia and the samsung.
But Nokia provides some special apps like maps, drive and (new) public transport.
This might be an advantage if you dont plan to flash or unlock ur device...
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Nokia Lumia also uses amoled.
Sorry @d.a.v.o.r , i meant to say super amoled, wich is Standing against a amoled Display in the Nokia lumia 800
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the word upgrade for me should be if you buy a lumia 900 or htc titan
i don't even consider omnia W
I've just upgraded from Omnia 7 to Lumia 800.. the 3g issue finally got to me & then Samsung said 3 weeks to fix.. so purelygadgets had one at £340 (their service is great BTW & a UK spec as well).
The Lumia is a great upgrade I think..
Improvements:
the call quality is noticeably superior
Performance (90 vs 60 on WPBench);
the battery lasts 50-100% longer;
music (over BT at least)
Build quality
Camera - especially w/flash..
Nokia apps - Nokia Drive & Creative Studio especially.
Disadvantages
No Removable battery - sufficiently worried to go & buy an auxillary battery from Amazon for £20.
The screen is pretty equal - the better black of the Lumia vs the slightly bigger Sammy.
I have none of the reported issues - loose keys , poor battery poor Bass; perhaps that's because it's been out 6 months & they've sorted out the issues.
lastly its' obvious Nokia is much more committed to WP7 & phones in general - so will keep the phone updated with new features as they roll out..
Nexus 4 brigthness: 285 cm/d²
Iphone 5 brightness : 480cm/d²
Galaxy s4 brightness : 294 cm/d²
I mean wtf an amoled beats an lcd on brightness , what is this sparta.
hamad138 said:
Nexus 4 brigthness: 285 cm/d²
Iphone 5 brightness : 480cm/d²
Galaxy s4 brightness : 294 cm/d²
I mean wtf an amoled beats an lcd on brightness , what is this sparta.
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Those numbers are wrong.
Check here: http://www.gsmarena.com/google_nexus_4-review-860p3.php
kicksilver said:
Those numbers are wrong.
Check here: http://www.gsmarena.com/google_nexus_4-review-860p3.php
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Ure wrong.
Check notebookcheck , gsmaren took lg optimus g screen not nexus 4.
hamad138 said:
Ure wrong.
Check notebookcheck , gsmaren took lg optimus g screen not nexus 4.
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Black, cd/m2 White, cd/m2 Contrast ratio Black, cd/m2 White, cd/m2 Contrast ratio
Nexus 4 0.22 314 1447 0.45 608 1341
And from the same exact page :
LG Optimus G 0.14 197 1445 0.33 417 1438
Please go troll somewhere else, you're not needed here.
http://m.gsmarena.com/google_nexus_4-review-860p3.php
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Your figures are from disparate sources with different equipment and testing methods.
The NotebookCheck S4 review used an XRite i1Pro 2, which yielded an average brightness of 300.6 nits. That same i1Pro 2 measured 436 nits on the Nexus 4.
Now that we have instrument parity from the same reviewers, we can begin telling OP to go home. Max brightness on either of these devices is bright enough to function in daylight. After that, it's a moot discussion.
Explain why having a brightness that exceeds the maximum necessity threshold and you will have a thread that didn't warrant immediate deletion. Otherwise, you're just a dumb kid who thinks that more megapixels makes better pictures; more higher gigahertz is always faster; a 128GB SSD is worse than a 2TB HDD and 16GB RAM makes your games run faster than 8GB.
TLDR; hamad138 is a bad troll, and dumb as rocks if he doesn't realize it at this point. This is the lowest denominator of trolling, and the last entertaining to boot.
hamad138 said:
Ure wrong.
Check notebookcheck , gsmaren took lg optimus g screen not nexus 4.
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No you are wrong!
Pay no mind to this guy.
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hamad138 said:
Nexus 4 brigthness: 285 cm/d²
Iphone 5 brightness : 480cm/d²
Galaxy s4 brightness : 294 cm/d²
I mean wtf an amoled beats an lcd on brightness , what is this sparta.
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I remember when they were doing tests against say a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0" and a Nexus 7, and even though the Nexus 7 was lower in cm/d, it "appeared" brighter (perhaps the contrast?). So can't really rely on numbers for everything.
Besides the iPhone 5 at max brightness appears washed out to me visually.
Just saw this:
http://www.androidauthority.com/note-3-display-review-brightness-display-mate-278726/
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note3_ShootOut_1.htm
Is this legit or did Samsung give them a super-model for their lab test? I like to believe it, but it sounds a bit of a stretch...
The Note 3’s is extremely bright. According to DisplayMate’s testing, the Note 3 is 55 percent brighter than the Note 2 and 25 percent brighter than the Galaxy S4. The Note 3 performs better than or comparable to “most LCD displays in this size class”. With Automatic Brightness on, the Note 3’s display reaches an impressive 660 cd/m2, which is the highest value that DisplayMate ever recorded. For comparison, the iPhone 5, long considered a standard in display quality, outputs 600 cd/m2.
DisplayMate praises the user selectable color modes of the Note 3, noting that the Professional Photo mode delivers a “fairly accurate calibration to the Adobe RGB standard, which is rarely available in consumers displays”.
The reflectance levels on the Note 3 are very low, which, along with the high brightness, improves readability under intense ambient light. The Note 3 has the highest “Contrast Rating for High Ambient Light” that the company ever measured.
At viewing angles of 30 degrees, the display loses just 22 percent of its brightness, compared to 55 percent or greater in the case of a typical LCD display.
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Super model huh??
have u bothered reading displaymate review :cyclops:
yahyoh said:
Super model huh??
have u bothered reading displaymate review :cyclops:
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No.. what do their reviews say?
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danieljamie said:
No.. what do their reviews say?
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http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note3_ShootOut_1.htm
yahyoh said:
Super model huh??
have u bothered reading displaymate review :cyclops:
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Do you have something meaningful to say? I'm just wondering how an OLED display can be brighter than an LCD one (by nature of the technology used, LCDs are brighter).
From gsmarena:
The Super AMOLED panel on the Galaxy Note 3 isn't the brightest we've seen and it's inferior to the Galaxy S4 in this department. However in most cases you won't notice this in practice unless you pit the Note 3 side by side with an HTC One or iPhone 5.
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This seem to contradict Displaymate's review.
MohJee said:
Do you have something meaningful to say? I'm just wondering how an OLED display can be brighter than an LCD one (by nature of the technology used, LCDs are brighter).
From gsmarena:
This seem to contradict Displaymate's review.
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Not sure where you got that info from. Personally, i'd go for numbers from displaymate over gsmarena.
For reference, Displaymate's Measured Peak Brightness numbers are:
Galaxy SIII: 283 cd/m2
Galaxy Note II: 353 cd/m2
Galaxy S4: 475 cd/m2
iPhone 5: 556 cd/m2
Galaxy Note 3: 660 cd/m2
gsmarena don't have any actual numbers.
skally said:
Not sure where you got that info from. Personally, i'd go for numbers from displaymate over gsmarena.
For reference, Displaymate's Measured Peak Brightness numbers are:
Galaxy SIII: 283 cd/m2
Galaxy Note II: 353 cd/m2
Galaxy S4: 475 cd/m2
iPhone 5: 556 cd/m2
Galaxy Note 3: 660 cd/m2
gsmarena don't have any actual numbers.
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Actually, they do. It's on page 2. They've put them in a table and everything, so it must be legit, right?
Anyways, I think I figured out the disparity between the two sites. Gsmarena measured brightness at manual brightness setting at 50% and 100% setting. Displaymate measured it on Autobrightness to achieve c660 cd/m2. So, assuming this is correct, Note3 can achieve far higher brightness levels on its Auto brightness than adjusting the brightness manually.
MohJee said:
Anyways, I think I figured out the disparity between the two sites. Gsmarena measured brightness at manual brightness setting at 50% and 100% setting. Displaymate measured it on Autobrightness to achieve c660 cd/m2. So, assuming this is correct, Note3 can achieve far higher brightness levels on its Auto brightness than adjusting the brightness manually.
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I wonder if they do that so people don't jack up the brightness too far and leave it there and burn out their AMOLED screen too fast. Meanwhile auto-brightness goes into asskicking mode when in bright sun but then comes back down to sustainable levels as soon as possible.
redpill2016 said:
I wonder if they do that so people don't jack up the brightness too far and leave it there and burn out their AMOLED screen too fast. Meanwhile auto-brightness goes into asskicking mode when in bright sun but then comes back down to sustainable levels as soon as possible.
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This does actually sound like a plausible explanation..
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redpiit2016 said:
I wonder if they do that so people don't jack up the brightness too far and leave it there and burn out their AMOLED screen too fast. Meanwhile auto-brightness goes into asskicking mode when in bright sun but then comes back down to sustainable levels as soon as possible.
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I read that it was set that way so people didn't drain their battery very quickly.
Laptop reviews also has the screen measured as the brightest ever for a mobile device...just saying
MohJee said:
Actually, they do. It's on page 2. They've put them in a table and everything, so it must be legit, right?
Anyways, I think I figured out the disparity between the two sites. Gsmarena measured brightness at manual brightness setting at 50% and 100% setting. Displaymate measured it on Autobrightness to achieve c660 cd/m2. So, assuming this is correct, Note3 can achieve far higher brightness levels on its Auto brightness than adjusting the brightness manually.
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So you trust GSMarena which don't have tool or experts to do these kind of testings over trusted corporation which main job is optimizing, calibrating, testing, evaluating and comparing all types of displays, monitors, projectors, mobile displays, HDTVs, and all display technologies, such as LCD, OLED, 3D, LED, LCoS, Plasma, DLP and CRT
Cool
I doubt it has the brightest screens of all cellphones out there. The WhiteMagic screen of the Sony Xperia P is over 800nits.
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MohJee said:
Actually, they do. It's on page 2. They've put them in a table and everything, so it must be legit, right?
Anyways, I think I figured out the disparity between the two sites. Gsmarena measured brightness at manual brightness setting at 50% and 100% setting. Displaymate measured it on Autobrightness to achieve c660 cd/m2. So, assuming this is correct, Note3 can achieve far higher brightness levels on its Auto brightness than adjusting the brightness manually.
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That's what I said. They don't have a number for auto brightness, which is the only way to measure max brightness
Hii .. Ie been using lumia 520 for a while and the colors was great since i bought nexus 4 i saw that colors are soo brushed ~! Why the colors on lumia is better than nexus since the 2 phones have the same ips screen ! ? i tried iphone color profile and halfbread and its still not good as lumia .. can any one make a color profile like lumia 520 ?
hahaha lumia 520....can't even compare. inferior contrast and black levels, grey panel
Mashed_Potatoes said:
hahaha lumia 520....can't even compare. inferior contrast and black levels, grey panel
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Hmm i cant understad you but color on lumia is betterr
lol my friend has a white lumia 520.......two different worlds
Every AMOLED phone I've had has a high brightness mode. I can only presume the 6P does as well.
Has anyone made any headway on figuring out how to enable it?
For reference,
On the nexus 6 the command is:
echo 1 > /sys/devices/virtual/graphics/fb0/hbm
On the note 3/4 the command is:
echo 6 > /sys/class/backlight/panel/auto_brightness
Anyone know how to enable hbm on this phone yet?
Without it the nexus 6 can get brighter than the 6p
well, I always get kick out of watching this guy on youtube. he compared N6P brightness with samsung note 5. he rated 505nits where as note 5 is around 750nits. i know it is not as bright as note 5 but he claims it is brighter than LG V10.
505nits on brightest white isn't really that bad in my opinion.
https://youtu.be/UW66iokjOMU?t=207
you can keep watch for the camera comparison vs note 5 and such.
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well, I always get kick out of watching this guy on youtube. he compared N6P brightness with samsung note 5. he rated 505nits where as note 5 is around 750nits. i know it is not as bright as note 5 but he claims it is brighter than LG V10.
505nits on brightest white isn't really that bad in my opinion.
https://youtu.be/UW66iokjOMU?t=207
you can keep watch for the camera comparison vs note 5 and such.
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Yeah it's a decent brightness. I imagine it will get as bright as the note 5 with HBM enabled.
ChrisJ951 said:
Every AMOLED phone I've had has a high brightness mode. I can only presume the 6P does as well.
Has anyone made any headway on figuring out how to enable it?
For reference,
On the nexus 6 the command is:
echo 1 > /sys/devices/virtual/graphics/fb0/hbm
On the note 3/4 the command is:
echo 6 > /sys/class/backlight/panel/auto_brightness
Anyone know how to enable hbm on this phone yet?
Without it the nexus 6 can get brighter than the 6p
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I hope there is such a thing..