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Yes, I know my Note 3 is 1080p and the Note 4 is QHD.
However, I went to Best Buy today and placed my Note 3 side by side with the Note 4, I had a very hard time seeing difference.
I was expecting to be blown away by the QHD like when I compared side by side with Note 2 (720p) and Note 3.
Anyone have similar experience?
Is beyond 1080p not discernable?
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Yes, I know my Note 3 is 1080p and the Note 4 is QHD.
However, I went to Best Buy today and placed my Note 3 side by side with the Note 4, I had a very hard time seeing difference.
I was expecting to be blown away by the QHD like when I compared side by side with Note 2 (720p) and Note 3.
Anyone have similar experience?
Is beyond 1080p not discernable?
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I guess it depends. I can still see pixels on a 1080p screen on my S5. I couldn't on the Note 4.
knite75 said:
Yes, I know my Note 3 is 1080p and the Note 4 is QHD.
However, I went to Best Buy today and placed my Note 3 side by side with the Note 4, I had a very hard time seeing difference.
I was expecting to be blown away by the QHD like when I compared side by side with Note 2 (720p) and Note 3.
Anyone have similar experience?
Is beyond 1080p not discernable?
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did you try the sample movies on the note 4? thats the money right there. 4k video to show off the screen. the home screens are very pretty, but you'll definitely notice the difference watching a movie in 4k
It doesn't have much difference as far as i think it can be only judge by viewing HD videos on both phones..
They claim that Samsung achieved an outstanding color balance on Note 4 as opposed to any other phone they had out there. QHD vs HD is somwhat of a gimmick in my book though.
That is exactly when I see too. I do not see any difference in that small screen. I see a big difference on a 720p vs 1 080p on my 120" wall painted screen. I cant wait for 4K projector with real 4k content on my big screen.
This may be irrelevant but i got a question. I use to have the note 3 and now on g3...when I went to compare screen with note 4, the colors looked like they were BLEEDING out. Do you get that sense between the note 3 and the note 4? I'm assuming my eyes are now use to the screen of the g3 that the saturation of the samsung devices pop out more than they actually do.
I could see a difference in crispness or sharpness of images. I was impressed.
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This may be irrelevant but i got a question. I use to have the note 3 and now on g3...when I went to compare screen with note 4, the colors looked like they were BLEEDING out. Do you get that sense between the note 3 and the note 4? I'm assuming my eyes are now use to the screen of the g3 that the saturation of the samsung devices pop out more than they actually do.
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Screen on the Note 4 is a lot more vibrant and accurate. There's no oversharpening like on the G3.
I was pleasantly surprised with the N4 display compared to the three. Seemed brighter and crisper. I was surprisingly not impressed with the LG G3 screen. I though the brightness was down.
G3's screen isn't much good plus it suffers from oversharpening
I've been playing with google cardboard lately on my Note 3, and using the VR headest kindof magnifies the pixels, and the resolution at even the Note 3's 1080P actually looks pretty bad (Its blocky, and the pen-tile screen becomes visible, reds look awful.). The extra PPI on the Note 4 should help with that. Something to think about if you are going to try out VR on your phone. Occulus Rift is using a Note 4 screen for their DK2 for these very reasons.
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I've been playing with google cardboard lately on my Note 3, and using the VR headest kindof magnifies the pixels, and the resolution at even the Note 3's 1080P actually looks pretty bad (Its blocky, and the pen-tile screen becomes visible, reds look awful.). The extra PPI on the Note 4 should help with that. Something to think about if you are going to try out VR on your phone. Occulus Rift is using a Note 4 screen for their DK2 for these very reasons.
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DK2 uses the note 3 screen actually. I have one. After playing it you get used to It unless you read tiny text which can happen in a game like elite dangerous. Still the experience is awesome on the note 3 screen and I bet the note 4 screen will be pretty good as well
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DK2 uses the note 3 screen actually. I have one. After playing it you get used to It unless you read tiny text which can happen in a game like elite dangerous. Still the experience is awesome on the note 3 screen and I bet the note 4 screen will be pretty good as well
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Oh my bad, you are absolutely right, I meant the new prototype occulus connect.
See the keynote here, John Carmack talks a LOT about how good the Note 4 screen is during this keynote and also the future of samsung displays: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqzpAbK9qFk
Remember the regular Galaxy S6 edge? How it was about 60-70 cm/knits less bright than the regular S6 at maximum manual brightness in darker environments? This would be a deal breaker for me if this is the case because I like to ratchet up my phone on full brightness and experience all the best color reproduction at the highest contrast. Anyone with the early edge+ units confirm if Samsung did away with this weird programming? Edge+ and Note 5 should be around the same manual max brightness as the regular S6 and S6 edge.
S6 edge+ still has brightness bug
yes the s6 edge plus has the brightness bug. Checked demo units at all major carriers at the mall. Note 5 does not have the issue. Can't believe Samsung still has this problem. I will also pass on the edge plus and the note 5 does not have enough new features to make me upgrade. So I guess it is no new phone for me!
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Remember the regular Galaxy S6 edge? How it was about 60-70 cm/knits less bright than the regular S6 at maximum manual brightness in darker environments? This would be a deal breaker for me if this is the case because I like to ratchet up my phone on full brightness and experience all the best color reproduction at the highest contrast. Anyone with the early edge+ units confirm if Samsung did away with this weird programming? Edge+ and Note 5 should be around the same manual max brightness as the regular S6 and S6 edge.
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yes the s6 edge plus has the brightness bug. Checked demo units at all major carriers at the mall. Note 5 does not have the issue. Can't believe Samsung still has this problem. I will also pass on the edge plus and the note 5 does not have enough new features to make me upgrade. So I guess it is no new phone for me!
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I can now also confirm that the "bug" is in place. It has to be intentional, because this is the second time it's specific to an edge variant. Whatever the case, I am going to have to settle for a Note 5. Which is disappointing, because the color selection is generic black or white. I wanted the edge just for that gold color. I am annoyed they couldn't bring the silver variant of the Note 5 to North America at least.
can one of you guys try velis auto brightness and see if that works!!!! im considering this device but i want to make sure I can also use it with out this weird brightness bug !!!
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can one of you guys try velis auto brightness and see if that works!!!! im considering this device but i want to make sure I can also use it with out this weird brightness bug !!!
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I can't answer to max brightness on manual-mode being different between devices.
But do want to let you folks know that max manual brightness will never be as bright as max auto brightness, even when using 3rd party apps such as Lux or Velis.
Just in case ya'll didn't already know.
I know, I've tried.
There are hacks (search my threads for the script I created) to make manual brightness just as bright as auto brightness, but the hack does not work very well.
I have the tmobile variant and it has this bug , very annoying how could they screw this up twice and on the best looking screen display they have ever made
+1 but
Is not a brightness bug. This is our limit I guess due to the curved screen edges...
And is not that bad at all people.
Only for 10% lower????....pfff take it who cares.
But yeah it's surprised me too.....at least they fixed that stupid sharp edges.
If this screen isn't bright enough for someone, they need to go to a doctor immediately.
It's not that it's not bright enough lol, it when max brightness dims when going into a low lighted area even with auto brightness turned off.
I'd have bought the S6 if the screen brightness could be manually adjusted from 0 to 600 nits like any normal phone. The S6 is not as bright indoors as an iphone and apparently despite all the customizations available on Android, this is still not possible.
The Note 5, however, has a bright enough screen that max brightness is as bright as an iphone. The Note 5 has a clearly superior screen to the S6. It's got to be a different panel in terms of quality. Had they made a 128 gb Note 5 I would have thought long and hard about a Note 5.
Samsung stop overthinking this. Unlock the full range of autobrightness regardless of whether we are out in the sun or not.
It's pretty obnoxious that it adjusts the brightness by itself even if it's turned off, it's unbearable if you're outdoors since it dims the screen so much on it's own:\. Is there not a fix?
Can't believe there's no official patch for this. Got a software update this morning and it did not fix it.
I've read reviews that claim:
- Not as bright as the Note 5
- Just as bright as the Note 5
- As dim as the Nexus 6 (last years)
- Dim, but bright when adaptive brightness turned off.
So, anyone know for sure? A cd/m2 measurement would be great. The brightness of the original Nexus 6 was a big disappointment.
hatcyl said:
I've read reviews that claim:
- Not as bright as the Note 5
- Just as bright as the Note 5
- As dim as the Nexus 6 (last years)
- Dim, but bright when adaptive brightness turned off.
So, anyone know for sure? A cd/m2 measurement would be great. The brightness of the original Nexus 6 was a big disappointment.
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Friends on what you consider dim/bright to be.
Majority say no problem in bright sun, so it's "bright" enough.
There is an app for the Nexus 6 to blast the screen real bright when outdoors. I have not tried it, but I've read ppl like it. If the P is not bright enough I'm sure an app will be available for cranking the brightness up.
356 nits ....but im hoping it can be more based on many of the (almost as bright as note 5)
Nexus 6 was 270.....so much broghter than last year, but much dimmer than note 5.
By Much i mean 30% more than last year but 30% less than note 5.....
I think it should be fine. Nexus 5 is 400 but I have never turned it above 75% even outdoors. 356 would be at the high end but I have no worries about it.
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Brightness seems to be pretty sad unfortunately :-/
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Google-Nexus-6P-Review_id4110
Another thing we have to point out is its poor visibility outdoors when the sun is present – it washes out tremendously to the point that it’s unusable unless we shield it. Achieving a maximum luminance of 356 nits, it’s not as potent as the Nexus 5X mark of 487 nits, and nowhere close to the blinding 593 nits reached by the iPhone 6s Plus.
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I heard you turn off adaptive brightness mode and the phone gets brighter, like it said above.
Wait this is less brighter than the LG G3.......and the LG G4 is the one I have and it's the darkest most uncomfortable handset to use with minimal sun.... wtf??? *cancels order* I'm just gonna wait for nexus I/O 2017 this is horrible... but I doesn't make sense why every reviewer says it's the brightest screen they've seen thus far....smh
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You have to take into account that brightness isn't the only thing that matter for readability under very high ambient luminosity.
Screen reflectivity, contrast and color saturation are as important as brightness. And the LG G4 (like most of the LCD) is very reflective, not even close to an AMOLED in contrast and can't achieve the same saturation that what is possible with an AMOLED panel.
In fact, if you go read a GSMArena review, you will see that under direct sunlight, the G4 isfar less readable than a Motorola Nexus 6...
Reflectivity etc is important, I agree. But I am hoping that the nits readings are with the standard adaptive brightness etc on. The mid 300s isn't as great as I'd like, and is around the overall average.
Nevertheless, the UK winter is coming and sunlight readability becomes a moot point!
I agree that 350nits is average at best.
But the biggest problem, IMO, is that the display on the 6P seems to be not as close to the glass as the latest Samsung devices. This will lead to an higher reflectivity.
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Wait this is less brighter than the LG G3.......and the LG G4 is the one I have and it's the darkest most uncomfortable handset to use with minimal sun.... wtf??? *cancels order* I'm just gonna wait for nexus I/O 2017 this is horrible... but I doesn't make sense why every reviewer says it's the brightest screen they've seen thus far....smh
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Thats a big problem IMO. The brightness level is pitiful. Why Google?
Anyone trying to defend the brightness is out of touch. The tests from a few posts
above is conclusive. I held off ordering to see if there were any things that would come up
in initial reviews. Battery life seems also to be hit and miss.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Google-Nexus-6P-battery-life-test-score-average-in-active-use_id74853
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Very poor brightness
Just got the 6P. Don't like the brightness at all. Am coming from the G3 and it's really sad. The Galaxy S6 is awesome. I always keep the phone at max brightness. Damn the battery, I say. I thought initially that perhaps the adaptive brightness setting was enabled. But it's not.
On paper it's brighter than the Nexus 6. But looking at them side by side, I don't see it even remotely brighter.
I hope that it's not really a limitation in the hardware and can be increased with a software mod.
i just walked outside in california sun at 1:00pm. i can read texts just fine. might have hard time looking at dark images because well black is...not lit... but i rather have little dimmer screen to preserve battery life and plus less prone to burn-ins.
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Just got the 6P. Don't like the brightness at all. Am coming from the G3 and it's really sad. The Galaxy S6 is awesome. I always keep the phone at max brightness. Damn the battery, I say. I thought initially that perhaps the adaptive brightness setting was enabled. But it's not.
On paper it's brighter than the Nexus 6. But looking at them side by side, I don't see it even remotely brighter.
I hope that it's not really a limitation in the hardware and can be increased with a software mod.
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Well. That's sad to hear :/ I guess I'll stick with my $250 500+ cd/m2 Idol 3.
Coming from a 1-year old Note 5, considering swapping to this phone, I have some questions:
1) Can I expect better battery life (I only get like 4 hours SOT max on the Note 5) and better low light photos (with HDR+)?
2) On the topic of low light, is there any article comparing the 6p and the S7/Edge in low light that the 6p has HDR+ turned on? Every article I found had the option turn off for the 6p which might be not fair.
3) Continue the topic, is HDR+ that godly?
4) 6p users that have been using the phone for more than 3 months, is there any major drawback that you're disappointed with / regret buying the phone for? Thanks in advance!
Only thing you'd be disappointed about is, SD 810. It gets so hot very easily as compared to one of the best thermal performance on the Note 5. Camera would be a tie, because the Nexus 6P at daylight tends to shoot at a lower exposure. Low light is top notch.
With Android N, the phone just flies!
Only disappointing feature of 6P is 810. If it had something better, it'd still be one of the bests out there.
Recently famous tech review channel "Unbox Therapy" posted a first impressions unboxing video of the Note 20 and Note 20 Ultra.
While comparing the 2 devices he happened to noticed when comparing the 2 models that the display of the ULTRA was way LESS vivid and LESS bright than the STANDARD Note 20.
He confirmed both were set to 100% brightness, both had adaptive brightness OFF, both were set to Vivid Screen Mode, and both had the white point in the center.
You can view the video and see the difference yourself in the video here....
Time stamp 8:50 if you just want to jump right when he realizes the display difference between them, and starts to troubleshoot this strange difference.
I was planning on potentially preordering the Note 20 Ultra so this really bothered me since I prefer a Vivid display. It shows on video he checked every setting except "Adaptive Color Filter" and "Enhanced Video."
My Testing and Results
So I knew I had to go to the store to see for myself and I went to Best Buy today and they had both the Note 20 & Note 20 Ultra on display.
Bad news... SAME exact results that Lew from Unbox Therapy had. See the pictures of all settings and testing I did below.
In all pictures the Note 20 Ultra is on the Left, the Standard Note 20 on the Right.
Brightness at Max for both displays, and Adaptive Brightness disabled for both devices, and Blue Light Filter disabled for both devices, and both devices set to Vivid mode.
Display Settings
Adaptive Color was also disabled on both devices.
Adaptive Color Filter
Notice the Standard Note 20 on the right has a brighter white point.
White Balance Comparison
This is a 4K UHD wallpaper I downloaded onto both devices. It's the exact same image from the same website. Notice that the Standard Note 20 on the right has more Vivid looking colors with better contrast.
Color Comparison
CONCLUSION:
After spending literally 30+ minutes standing there playing around with both phones, it seems the brightness is pretty close to the same on both. But the Standard Note 20 did seem to have a slight edge on 100% brightness. However the main big difference is the Standard Note 20 has more Vivid colors and Higher Contrast.
I do not think this is because the Note 20 Ultra display is not able to produce colors and contrast as Vivid as the Regular Note 20. I believe it just has to do with the display calibration in the hard coded software of the Ultra that is causing the colors to be more Natural than Vivid.
I came to the conclusion it was a software issue when I was watching the same YouTube video on both displays (Video Enhancer was disabled for both devices), and when playing the video the Ultra suddenly kicked into a more Vivid mode making it look nearly identical to the Regular Note.
Then when closing out of the video and to the YouTube home page it went back to a more Natural color and less contrast mode. Of course that was strange since video enhancer was disabled for both devices.
So this proves the display is capable of being Vivid with High Contrast, but just something in software that Samsung needs to calibrate in the Ultra model. Or maybe worse... potentially this was intentional by Samsung to help preserve battery since it is a 120hz display?
So Samsung needs to.... 1.) Crank up the Vividness of the Vivid mode to at least be Equal to the Standard Note and 2.) Fix video enhancement from turning on during YouTube videos when it's disabled in settings.
So I'm holding off to make a decision on whether to preorder or not since there is still about 12 days left. Meanwhile I hope that they push out a early release software update to fix the Vivid color profile on the Ultra. This is technically preproduction software so it COULD change with a software update, but there's of course no guarantee Samsung will fix this.
So if you prefer a Vivid display that Samsung is typically known for, then it is up to us as consumers to bring this to the attention of Samsung and popular Tech Reviewers, because Samsung doesn't know to fix this color calibration in software unless we make noise to let them know we want a Vivid display.
What is everyone's thoughts on this? Would this be a deal breaker for you on a $1,300 phone if the Vivid Colors and Contrast is noticeably less when compared to your Note 10+ or your S10/S10+ or S20/S20+? or do you prefer a more natural less vivid display?
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Hopefully also @dylanraga does a detailed display test on the Note 20 Ultra just like the awesome job he did with the OnePlus 8 Pro right here. That way we can see the actual technical results to further our evidence to bring to Samsung's attention.
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Further Confirmation of This Issue....
I asked Hayato Huseman (videographer/reviewer at Android Central) if he could check his Note 20 Ultra device. He did not have a regular Note 20 to compare, but confirmed the Note 20 Ultra is LESS Vivid than the S20 Ultra.
So that means people upgrading from a previous Galaxy will potentially be upgrading to a Less Vivid display in the Note 20 Ultra.
Very interesting and disappointing results for me personally. So now Unbox Therapy, and now Hayato from Android Central, and my personal testing have all confirmed the Note 20 Ultra isn't as Vivid as standard Note or Galaxys. I'm hoping a software update gets pushed out to resolve this.
Here is the Tweet where Hayato confirms this comparison if anyone wants to check it out.
https://twitter.com/hayatohuseman/status/1292588939195318273?s=19
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New Update!!! Some Note 20 Ultras might have dimmer and less vibrant display than other Note 20 Ultras.
This entire post was originally dedicated to the Note 20 Ultra having a less bright and less vivid display than the standard Note 20, and even the Note 10 Plus, Note 9, Note 8, S20/S20+/S20 Ultra, and OnePlus 8 Pro.
However this issue just took a more crazy turn for the worse. Now it has been discovered that some Note 20 Ultra phones have dimmer less vibrant displays than other Note 20 Ultra phones. Thats right... 2 of the same phones with [different looking displays. This was discovered thanks to Zack at JerryRigEverything YouTube channel when he was testing the 2 different processors.
Check out his video here
At time stamp 4:05 he says... "You might have also noticed the screen color is a bit different with both phones. I'm pretty sure I have the brightness turned up all the way on each. But it makes you wonder if there are other components that don't match up between the variants as well."
I have also attached a picture on page 6 of a post to show the difference. My Note 20 Ultra is a US Snapdragon variant and my display looks like the display on the left (Zach's exynos). I also noticed today that adaptive brightness is NOT fully turning off. I thought a few times over the past couple weeks I saw my display suddenly get brighter or dimmer. But I figured it was just my imagination because I always keep the adaptive brightness off.
However I am able to consistently reproduce it. If I put the brightness at 100% with adaptive brightness Off, then open chrome, the phone immediately dims 1 second after. Then brightens back at the home screen. Try it on your phone. Maybe the out of wack adaptive brightness is a separate issue, or maybe this could be the culprit to these dimmer less vivid displays. So I wanted to mention it too.
I also was able to reproduce it in a different scenario by putting my phone inches away from a bright light in my bathroom while on 100% manual brightness, notice it get brighter without me touching anything, then take it away from the light quickly, then see it dim right in front of my face. Looks like its dropping a solid 20% brightness but the slider doesn't change position. Still shows 100%!
Please test those 2 scenarios on your phone let everyone know if it happens to you too. Also if someone happens to have 2 Note 20 Ultras or know someone who does, then please compare the displays and post 2 pictures. One showing the 2 displays on the google.com homepage in chrome and 1 showing the display section in settings.
Anyone who had a noticeably dimmer display than 1 of your previous Samsung phones made in the past 2 years, then please contact Samsung support and report this. I will be contacting them for the first time about this issue and pushing them for a resolution. Even if that means exchanging for another Note 20 Ultra.
I prefer a more natural looking display like my iPhone LOL.
However, I agree, if someone WANTS inaccurate oversaturated colors then it should be available to them.
That is why stereos have bass and treble controls.
Honestly not real worried about it. Unless you have both side by side shouldn't ever notice. Now if it doesn't look better then my note 10+ then we will have a problem
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At 60hz it's more easy to calibrate the screen colour than a 120hz since there is more variables. That's why Pixel 4 XL has problems at lower brightness at launch since it wasn't calibrated.
Did you disable enhanced video mode on both of them?
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Did you disable enhanced video mode on both of them?
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Yep! I mention that in my original post. Read in the conclusion section.
Also the picture of me comparing colors is not a video. That is a downloaded a wallpaper. So even if it was turned on, that setting should not affect pictures to my knowledge.
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I prefer a more natural looking display like my iPhone LOL.
However, I agree, if someone WANTS inaccurate oversaturated colors then it should be available to them.
That is why stereos have bass and treble controls.
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Yes! Exactly!! Everyone has different preferences. The option should be there for those who want. Plus what's the point of having a vivid display option when it's not that vivid? That kind of defeats the purpose of the setting existing.
Plus Samsung says on their website that the Ultra is the most Vivid display on any Galaxy. Clearly that's not the case when comparing it to the standard Note 20. Since their website claims it's supposed to be the most vivid, that indicates the Ultra display is not supposed to be this way and something might be messed up in the software that is preventing it from being as vivid as they claim it should be, so they just need to roll out an update to fix it.
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Honestly not real worried about it. Unless you have both side by side shouldn't ever notice. Now if it doesn't look better then my note 10+ then we will have a problem
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It's definitely not more vivid than my S10+ but I didn't take any pictures of that. It seems to be about the same Vividness as my S10+ which is strange.
Not sure about the Note 10+ but probably same results since it wasn't more Vivid than my S10+. I highly recommend going to compare it to your Note 10+ in person.
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At 60hz it's more easy to calibrate the screen colour than a 120hz since there is more variables. That's why Pixel 4 XL has problems at lower brightness at launch since it wasn't calibrated.
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Good point! I actually did briefly put the Note 20 Ultra into 60hz then compared again. I got the same results. Still not as Vivid as the Standard Note 20. I just didn't mention it in my original post because results were the same as using 120hz from what I could tell.
Could it be as simple as pre-release software, or unlikely?
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Could it be as simple as pre-release software, or unlikely?
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Yes, that could definitely be the problem. That it's a bug in their pre-production software that Samsung have not yet noticed.
If you read my conclusion section in my original post I talk about why my testing indicated it seemed to be a software calibration problem and not a problem with the physical display panel.
So that's good, it means they could push out an update to fix it later. Of course there is no guarantee. They will likely only do that if several consumers complain about this issue of the Ultra not being very Vivid in the Vivid display mode.
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Yes, that could definitely be the problem. That it's a bug in their pre-production software that Samsung have not yet noticed.
If you read my conclusion section in my original post I talk about why my testing indicated it seemed to be a software calibration problem and not a problem with the physical display panel.
So that's good, it means they could push out an update to fix it later. Of course there is no guarantee. They will likely only do that if several consumers complain about this issue of the Ultra not being very Vivid in the Vivid display mode.
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I did read your whole post, I just needed it dumbed down for myself.
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I did read your whole post, I just needed it dumbed down for myself.
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Lol! Okay fair enough! Although what I worry about the most is they are doing this limit on Vividness to save battery. In which case means they would not fix it.
The only reason I don't think that it's on purpose is because they claim on their website the Ultra display is the most Vivid Galaxy ever.
I assume it's the flat screen? Or maybe not the 2x? I don't know what that means on the ultra
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I asked Hayato Huseman (videographer/reviewer at Android Central) if he could check his Note 20 Ultra device. He did not have a regular Note 20 to compare, but confirmed the Note 20 Ultra is LESS Vivid than the S20 Ultra.
So that means people upgrading from an S20 or S10 will potentially be upgrading to a Less Vivid display in the Note 20 Ultra.
Very interesting and disappointing results for me personally. So now Unbox Therapy, and my in store comparison testing, and Hayato from Android Crntral have all confirmed the Note 20 Ultra isn't very Vivid. I'm hoping a software update gets pushed out to resolve this.
Here is the Tweet where Hayato confirms this comparison if anyone wants to check it out.
https://twitter.com/hayatohuseman/status/1292588939195318273?s=19
I saw that review from Unbox Therapy (He is really my favorite reviewer - funny but very informative)
Anyway - like virtually all of the Samsung Devices I have ordered pre-orders for (virtually every single major release since the S4 I think) I have gotten sort of used to these little faux pas on their major releases - the last phone, Galaxy 20 Ultra had the notorious problems with Auto Focus....and just about every other phone they launched had something that eventually was fixed - so anyway, I kind of expect something to happen each time a new samsung phone is released - while I am not super happy that this appears to be going to happen again with the new note, it seems like it should be relatively easy to fix with an update, once Samsung figures it out...and I do expect they will find and fix it pretty soon.
Thankfully, it doesn't appear to be as big as the battery issues of the Note 7 or the Auto Focus of the S20....Fingers Crossed it gets fixed soon after release...
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I assume it's the flat screen? Or maybe not the 2x? I don't know what that means on the ultra
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No, a flat screen would not make a display more Vivid if that is what you're wondering. There has been many curved Samsung displays that were Vivid.
I don't know what you mean by "the 2x" what are you referring to? Where did you see that?
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No, a flat screen would not make a display more Vivid if that is what you're wondering. There has been many curved Samsung displays that were Vivid.
I don't know what you mean by "the 2x" what are you referring to? Where did you see that?
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Straight from Samsung website. I thought maybe it meant twice the refresh but then it still says 120 hz so idk
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Geekser said:
I saw that review from Unbox Therapy (He is really my favorite reviewer - funny but very informative)
Anyway - like virtually all of the Samsung Devices I have ordered pre-orders for (virtually every single major release since the S4 I think) I have gotten sort of used to these little faux pas on their major releases - the last phone, Galaxy 20 Ultra had the notorious problems with Auto Focus....and just about every other phone they launched had something that eventually was fixed - so anyway, I kind of expect something to happen each time a new samsung phone is released - while I am not super happy that this appears to be going to happen again with the new note, it seems like it should be relatively easy to fix with an update, once Samsung figures it out...and I do expect they will find and fix it pretty soon.
Thankfully, it doesn't appear to be as big as the battery issues of the Note 7 or the Auto Focus of the S20....Fingers Crossed it gets fixed soon after release...
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I love how optimistic you are! I hope you're right! Still gonna hold off on the preorder until reviews start to come out over the next few days. Then make my final decision.
Hopefully a reviewer with close connections to Samsung brings it to their attention, so then we can get confirmation they are aware of the issue and working to fix it. Then I will feel better about pre-ordering. I really hope it is fixed, because it seems like the perfect phone in every other way besides this.
oneandroidnut said:
Straight from Samsung website. I thought maybe it meant twice the refresh but then it still says 120 hz so idk
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Ah Okay I see. I'm not really sure either. I searched that on Google and the display on the S20 Ultra was also called that. I think it's Samsung's way of saying like version 2 of their Dynamic AMOLED. But not sure either. Couldn't really find any explanation.