Related
Sorry to ask this question here. But is the Droid X bootloader actually cracked?. Because according to:
http://androidcommunity.com/atrix-bootloader-gets-locked-down-no-custom-roms-20110222/
It seems it is ?
MeX_DK said:
Sorry to ask this question here. But is the Droid X bootloader actually cracked?. Because according to:
http://androidcommunity.com/atrix-bootloader-gets-locked-down-no-custom-roms-20110222/
It seems it is ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, the bootloader has not been cracked. However thanks to koush and his bootstrap app, we have a hijacked recovery that allows us to load custom roms, and themes just no custom kernels yet.
Sent from my DROIDX using XDA App
MeX_DK said:
Sorry to ask this question here. But is the Droid X bootloader actually cracked?. Because according to:
http://androidcommunity.com/atrix-bootloader-gets-locked-down-no-custom-roms-20110222/
It seems it is ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That is in-correct information. The Doid X's is far from being unlocked however, there is progress and there are developers working on it.
Whoever posted that may have been confused in thinking that the custom recovery (bootstrap), which is a secondary way around the locked bootloader, was the actual unlocking of the bootloader. While bootstrap is a life saver for the DX, the bootstrap is on lock down.
Thanks guys. I am waging a debate on a danish cell forum regarding the Atrix and its unloackability and I brought up the fact that most if not all late Motorola's had been locked tighter then fort knox more or less
I had a interesting Chat session today with a Moto CSR here is the log:
Me: I purchased a Used Motorola Droid RAZR HD (Verizon) Retail Version Phone. The purpose was to work on android development. I am interested in unlocking my bootloader for that purpose. The phone itself is out of warranty and therefore I am not concerned about voiding the non-existent warranty. Your Bootloader Unlock webpage here seems to not allow me to do so as it is not developer edition.
Me: From my understanding a Dev Version is the only phone listed. However as previously stated I am out of warranty and wondering if it were possible through customer support to unlock my bootloader.
Gerald Ray: I see. Thanks for the information. Please know that here with Motorola we do not advice to unlock the Bootloader of our phones and for that we don't have steps to do it. If you need further assistance, you may check our nearest Repair Center in your area.
Me: Sorry your response is not clarifying.
Me: Is it possible to unlock the bootloader of a Retail XT926 Motorola Droid RAZR HD that is a Non-Developer version?
Gerald Ray: Yes, it is possible.
Me: I live in Sacramento California where is the nearest Motorola Repair center?
Gerald Ray: This is the site to check: http://www.service-center-locator.com/motorola/motorola-service-center.htm
Gerald Ray: Is there anything else that I can assist you today aside from this?
Me: based on the information provided it seems there are no service centers in my immediate area
Gerald Ray: I understand. You may check the nearest one.
Me: Does this require for me to be there in person?
Gerald Ray: You may try calling them first. We have phone numbers from that site.
Me: Ok thank you
I have emailed three of the service centers provided on the webpage he indicated to get their response to this possibility. I will update the thread once I get confirmation or denial of the ability to unlock the bootloader from the service center.
This thread has potential!
As long as the latest ota hasn't been applied, you can unlock the boot loader. Not sure why you're going through all the hassles of calling a csr.
That is unless you're talking about a phone that does have the latest ota which patches the boot loader unlock exploit.
Sent from my Droid RAZR HD under an Eclipse.
I hoping it works because I have a RAZR Maxx HD... That I would like to unlock the boatloader.
Sent from my SGH-T889 using Tapatalk
Y
TheGman125 said:
I hoping it works because I have a RAZR Maxx HD... That I would like to unlock the boatloader.
Sent from my SGH-T889 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Unless another exploit has been found for the latest ota, and believe me we would know if there was, you will not be able to unlock the bootloader unless the phone was already unlocked before the ota.
The ability to unlock the bootloader on the hds was due to a security exploit in the code that existed before the latest ota. Using this exploit, Dan came up with code that fooled the phone into unlocking the bootloader. Once it did this, there was an eFuse that was blown to signal that the bootloader was unlocked. This fuse cannot be reset ever back to a locked state.
However, if you applied the ota before unlocking the bootloader, then what the ota did was patch/fix the exploit which means Dan's unlocking code no longer works, therefore you cannot unlock the bootloader.
It took Dan a long time to find the exploit. He has stated he does not have the time to look for a different one. In fact, there may not be another one. We were lucky that the first one was even found.
So unless Motorola decides to allow the hds to be part of the unlocking tool, I would not hold my breath.
The only other hope for you is if someone were to get kexec running on the HD. However, since because of the (now closed) exploit, no one has attempted it. Since a lot of people have their phones unlocked, I don't think the developers are working on kexec.
Plus, with the HDs being about a year old, and newer phones especially are being released, I just don't see anyone putting forth the time and effort to do this.
But, you could always put out a bounty to see if you raise enough cash to give someone if they attempt and succeed. Usually these don't result in anything coming to fruition.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4
iBolski said:
Y
Unless another exploit has been found for the latest ota, and believe me we would know if there was, you will not be able to unlock the bootloader unless the phone was already unlocked before the ota.
The ability to unlock the bootloader on the hds was due to a security exploit in the code that existed before the latest ota. Using this exploit, Dan came up with code that fooled the phone into unlocking the bootloader. Once it did this, there was an eFuse that was blown to signal that the bootloader was unlocked. This fuse cannot be reset ever back to a locked state.
However, if you applied the ota before unlocking the bootloader, then what the ota did was patch/fix the exploit which means Dan's unlocking code no longer works, therefore you cannot unlock the bootloader.
It took Dan a long time to find the exploit. He has stated he does not have the time to look for a different one. In fact, there may not be another one. We were lucky that the first one was even found.
So unless Motorola decides to allow the hds to be part of the unlocking tool, I would not hold my breath.
The only other hope for you is if someone were to get kexec running on the HD. However, since because of the (now closed) exploit, no one has attempted it. Since a lot of people have their phones unlocked, I don't think the developers are working on kexec.
Plus, with the HDs being about a year old, and newer phones especially are being released, I just don't see anyone putting forth the time and effort to do this.
But, you could always put out a bounty to see if you raise enough cash to give someone if they attempt and succeed. Usually these don't result in anything coming to fruition.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That sounds like a good idea... Would you be able to help with that? The devices are still good and a lot of people like my self would like to try 4.3 and get that great battery life on most if my devices.
Now, could we create community in Google+ and twitter to increase awareness of the bounty?
Sent from my SGH-T889 using Tapatalk
Since my tiny hopes of N5 coming on Verizon is now official dashed, I need to unlock my phone...
i'll be patiently waiting for this thread to update!
Sorry to bring up an old thread, but apparently, no news from the op with a reply is bad news.
i sent punit soni an email asking about the warranty policy on the pure edition.
"you guys are advertising unlockable bootloader on the 'pure edition'. a lot of us on the moto forums, and even more on droid life and android central are wanting to know if unlocking the bootloader will void the warranty.
motocare is giving us both yes and no answers depending on who we talk to. please get us some info on this soon. pre-orders start tomorrow and this is very important to a lot of early adopters. "
"We will honor warranty even if you unlock. Wait for official post on this."
phermey said:
i sent punit soni an email asking about the warranty policy on the pure edition.
"you guys are advertising unlockable bootloader on the 'pure edition'. a lot of us on the moto forums, and even more on droid life and android central are wanting to know if unlocking the bootloader will void the warranty.
motocare is giving us both yes and no answers depending on who we talk to. please get us some info on this soon. pre-orders start tomorrow and this is very important to a lot of early adopters. "
"We will honor warranty even if you unlock. Wait for official post on this."
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Man, this is great news! Moto is doing good things. But the battery of the phone got me concerned. After reading about this though, I think I can look past the battery. This surely helps us hackers
Great news! So it means its fine to root on the first day (if rooting method is available) ?
Jack Sparrow xda said:
Great news! So it means its fine to root on the first day (if rooting method is available) ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i got my last x in sept of last year. so it has been a year since i have been rooted. i cannot wait.
Jack Sparrow xda said:
Great news! So it means its fine to root on the first day (if rooting method is available) ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
for SuperSU, can't we download it from the Play Store and it can install or something? I need root. I need xposed and the Nlpwakelock module that can reduce the amount of wakelocks from Play Services, which can help the battery of this phone :good:
I mean to say was will we still get the latest firmware upgrade even when the phone is rooted ? f so then thats wonderful.
Jack Sparrow xda said:
I mean to say was will we still get the latest firmware upgrade even when the phone is rooted ? f so then thats wonderful.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I assume if all you do is root the stock ROM, you can just unroot (completely remove SuperSU) and you'll be able to get the firmware upgrades again. if there is one single change in the /system, then firmware upgrades do not work. but by restoring it to how it's suppose to be, then the update will see no files changed and continue with the upgrade. that's how it worked with the Nexus phones, and the Moto X Pure Edition is essentially a Nexus phone with tweaks
0.0 said:
I assume if all you do is root the stock ROM, you can just unroot (completely remove SuperSU) and you'll be able to get the firmware upgrades again. if there is one single change in the /system, then firmware upgrades do not work. but by restoring it to how it's suppose to be, then the update will see no files changed and continue with the upgrade. that's how it worked with the Nexus phones, and the Moto X Pure Edition is essentially a Nexus phone with tweaks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is root already available?
I don't believe it until I read it in the fine print. I don't plan to unlock root my Moto G or X, but if I go to the bootloader unlock page it have to not mention anything about voiding your warranty in the process.
eksasol said:
I don't believe it until I read it in the fine print. I don't plan to unlock root my Moto G or X, but if I go to the bootloader unlock page it have to not mention anything about voiding your warranty in the process.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
the moto support forums manager confirmed my confirm.
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/677736c888?page=2
Excellent! I was a little concerned price wise that we'd be looking at another $100 tacked on to the $499 to get a 'Developer Edition' with an unlockable bootloader and warranty.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk
theideaweb said:
Excellent! I was a little concerned price wise that we'd be looking at another $100 tacked on to the $499 to get a 'Developer Edition' with an unlockable bootloader and warranty.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
me too. and add on to that no option to customize.
So I was poking around on the Moto site because I'm about to unlock my bootloader. Motorola seems to have the Pure Edition listed as a dev edition, at least according to the page where you can download the factory images.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images
So this is for pure edition only, not the phone one might buy in a store,like myself?
Xdevillived666 said:
So this is for pure edition only, not the phone one might buy in a store,like myself?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry, only pure edition. XT1095.
Sent from my XT1095
Okay we have a Bounty thread... Leave that for just plain Bounty pledges..
In here feel free to talk about BootLoader discusions, Root discussions..
Nice thread. Would be nice to discuss about Moto Maxx root as well. Since it has unlockable bootloader, I believe root is pretty doable, but I have no idea how to, since there's no custom recovery yet.
Nice thread.... looking forward
[ ]'s
some one knows how can we help to find a exploit or something that will make our Turbo able to get root??
When lollipop gets released for the Turbo, I'm going to have a tough decision. I really want that sweet new lollipop, but I also know that the chances of rooting it will go down significantly. So, the question is, should we stay on KitKat in hopes of getting root? It's going to be really hard to resist 5.0. And since the 2014 Moto X just got it, I think we're not far behind.
There's a vulnerability in KitKat, we just have to figure out how to exploit it. CVE-2014-7911. More info can be found at http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2014/Nov/51.
Your chances of getting root with LP and a locked bootloader depend on an exploit which has yet to be found and that may be some time and on some phones has never happened on previous operating systems. You would be much better off if the phone was released for unrestricted world wide sales but being CDMA and a Verizon exclusive is guaranteed to prevent the large scale adoption that would have made it more attractive to developers. Realistically no one here knows better than you whether root is more important than getting LP are for you. For my purposes I consider root a must have while having no issues with kk which I like just fine which would make it an easy choice.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't we just revert to kitkat if an exploit is found?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2929737
That's the factory firmware we could flash if need be.
madeiracam said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't we just revert to kitkat if an exploit is found?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2929737
That's the factory firmware we could flash if need be.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Maybe. With Qualcomm chips, it's possible to make reverting to an older version result in a hard brick. With Big Red's knowledge of what they can do, unfortunately, they might implement this "feature". Plus, a vulnerability has already been found. We just need to figure out how to exploit it.
madeiracam said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't we just revert to kitkat if an exploit is found?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2929737
That's the factory firmware we could flash if need be.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
At least with my Motorola RAZR M, every time they had a big version upgrade they also upgraded the security partition (which would be incompatible with prior firmwares), making it impossible to downgrade without an unlocked bootloader.
Sent from my Droid Turbo.
I think I have an idea on how to obtain a bootloader unlock. It most likely will not work, though, as I highly doubt it would be this stupid simple. As I do not yet have a Turbo, could someone send me the result of "fastboot oem get_unlock_data"? PM it to me and I'll test my theory. I'll also need one from some other (model doesn't matter) Motorola device, too, that actually is eligible for official bootloader unlocking.
r3pwn said:
I think I have an idea on how to obtain a bootloader unlock. It most likely will not work, though, as I highly doubt it would be this stupid simple. As I do not yet have a Turbo, could someone send me the result of "fastboot oem get_unlock_data"? PM it to me and I'll test my theory. I'll also need one from some other (model doesn't matter) Motorola device, too, that actually is eligible for official bootloader unlocking.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have both a Droid Turbo and a Motorola device that is eligible for bootloader unlocking, but I don't know if I can trust to give my oem unlock data if that is in any kind "dangerous" for me or my guarantee. Can you just give me a hint and I check it out?
josebama said:
I have both a Droid Turbo and a Motorola device that is eligible for bootloader unlocking, but I don't know if I can trust to give my oem unlock data if that is in any kind "dangerous" for me or my guarantee. Can you just give me a hint and I check it out?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, sure. I'll send I sent you a PM.
Do you still need this? I have a Turbo with a cracked screen um about to send back.
greekstile said:
Do you still need this? I have a Turbo with a cracked screen um about to send back.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, but not if you're about to send it back. I'll get another one. I wouldn't be able to test if the unlock worked.
When I say send it back, I don't have to send it right away. If the unlock does work, I assume I could lock it back down before sending back?
greekstile said:
When I say send it back, I don't have to send it right away. If the unlock does work, I assume I could lock it back down before sending back?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
With Motorola devices, I don't think it's possible. I think the qfuse gets permanently blown. I would send it back if I were you. This method probably won't work anyways.
EDIT: qfuse, stupid autocorrect
I'm willing to give it a shot. Just let me know.
r3pwn said:
With Motorola devices, I don't think it's possible. I think the cause gets permanently blown. I would send it back if I were you. This method probably won't work anyways.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i will help u too if needed
got a Droid turbo
danger2u said:
i will help u too if needed
got a Droid turbo
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How does one have a Turbo that is eligible for unlocked bootloader? This sounds like candy covered in gold to me.
Droid turbo "OEM unlocking allow the bootloader to be unlocked" option under develope
I have a screenshot but I don't know how to upload it srry. But it is there. Is this for real?
The thread was supposed to say under developer options. My bad.
nils39 said:
I have a screenshot but I don't know how to upload it srry. But it is there. Is this for real?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's part of Lollipop, part of the security measures. And no, it won't mean that we can unlock our bootloaders. Unless Verizon and Motorla change their stance on unlocked bootloaders.
tgambitg said:
It's part of Lollipop, part of the security measures. And no, it won't mean that we can unlock our bootloaders. Unless Verizon and Motorla change their stance on unlocked bootloaders.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had a feeling that's what it was. But we can always hope.
I tried to unlock it just for shiggles, and of course it didn't work. It even gives you a finished response, but alas, was still locked.
Sent from my Droid Turbo
thats for device protection, a function like apple iphone lock,
http://www.greenbot.com/article/290...ow-about-device-protection-in-android-51.html
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...evice-protection-feature-and-how-do-i-use-it/
if you disable that option, you can flash things on the phone leaving the phone unlocked and open.
Here's a screenshot from mine. It's kind of strange to me that they're talking about security and locking features but it clearly says allows bootloader to be unlocked. But I'm skeptical, unlocking a bootloader in my experience has never been as simple as a flick of a toggle.
Sent from my XT1254 using XDA Free mobile app
It's like we're repeating threads from a week ago.
matt30 said:
It's like we're repeating threads from a week ago.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Welcome to XDA, where the people can't read and the search button doesn't matter. :silly:
A mod needs to close this thread.
tgambitg said:
It's part of Lollipop, part of the security measures. And no, it won't mean that we can unlock our bootloaders. Unless Verizon and Motorla change their stance on unlocked bootloaders.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo XT1225 has unlocked bootloader, as does the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250, which is the device IDENTICAL to the Droid Turbo XT1254 (same FCC ID). The XT1250 runs just fine on Verizon with Verizon LTE SIM card (like a non- Verizon Nexus 6).
Speaking of which, the Motorola Nexus 6 has unlocked bootloader.
My point is, it's Verizon that is obsessed with locked down bootloaders, not Motorola.
Sorry, but
tgambitg said:
It's part of Lollipop, part of the security measures. And no, it won't mean that we can unlock our bootloaders. Unless Verizon and Motorla change their stance on unlocked bootloaders.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry, but it DOES mean the bootloader is unlocked this time. Turbo 2, in fact. Verizon + Moto must have changed their minds..
NapoleanSolo said:
Sorry, but it DOES mean the bootloader is unlocked this time. Turbo 2, in fact. Verizon + Moto must have changed their minds..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry, I don't believe you.
Install TWRP and root and post screenshot. If your bootloader is unlocked, that will take 5 minutes.
Another reason I don't believe you is because if this were true it would be all over the Droid Turbo 2 forum and over there they are still complaining about locked bootloader and no root. So, you really don't know what you are talking about.
_____
The Moto X Force (KINZIE) is the International version of the Droid Turbo 2 (KINZIE). It does have unlock-able bootloader, and has TWRP and root. When the Droid Turbo 2 bootloader actually is unlocked TWRP and root for KINZIE will work on it, just like TWRP and root for QUARK works on the Droid Turbo XT1254 (Quark) with all the other Quarks.
And over there, they are still ONE forum, just like all Quarks were one forum until a couple of months ago. So, it's easy to keep track of what's happening with all Kinzies.
NapoleanSolo said:
Sorry, but it DOES mean the bootloader is unlocked this time. Turbo 2, in fact. Verizon + Moto must have changed their minds..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No it doesn't, what would make you think this would work, have you actually tried it?
Sent from my DROID Turbo using Tapatalk
Let's keep piling on...
NapoleanSolo said:
Sorry, but it DOES mean the bootloader is unlocked this time. Turbo 2, in fact. Verizon + Moto must have changed their minds..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry to bust your bubble, but that slider...yeah, it was on the Turbo when we got the 5.1 update. I could slide it to the "Unlock" position until I was blue in the face, but it had about a snowball's chance in hell of actually unlocking the bootloader. As @ChazzMatt suggested, try to flash TWRP and if you can, I'll eat my words. But the days of an easy unlock on VZW phones are long gone.
So, I just bought a Moto X Style.
And on the Developer options, also have the slide saying OEM Unlock.
It said that, meaning, during the process, the system/ tool will need the permission to unlock
and that slide allows that to happen
hieutrinh85 said:
So, I just bought a Moto X Style.
And on the Developer options, also have the slide saying OEM Unlock.
It said that, meaning, during the process, the system/ tool will need the permission to unlock
and that slide allows that to happen
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not relevant whatsoever for the Verizon locked down bootloader Droid Turbo XT1254. I wish people wouldn't keep digging up old threads that have been refuted.
The only thing that works with the XT1254 is paid Sunshine fueled exploit. Other Quarks (XT1225/XT1250) can be unlocked via Motorola website for free.