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just an apps2sd+ question

hey,
uhm i use apps2sd+ in nexusHD2 gingerbread rom and apps are being succesfully installed in my ext4 partition.
but why is internal storage decreasing, when its not being installed in there. i read somewhere to just reboot and it'll jump back. well it does only a few mb, but its definatly decreasing... almost as much as my ext4 storage lol.
my ext4 is 1gb big, and my prognosis is that internal storage will be full after installing 300-400 mb on ext4... whats the benefit of apps2sd+ then?
i have about 50 mb on ext4 (i flashed yesterday) and internal storage decreased about 30 mb lol
i hope you guys understand what i mean
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simax said:
hey,
uhm i use apps2sd+ in nexusHD2 gingerbread rom and apps are being succesfully installed in my ext4 partition.
but why is internal storage decreasing, when its not being installed in there. i read somewhere to just reboot and it'll jump back. well it does only a few mb, but its definatly decreasing... almost as much as my ext4 storage lol.
my ext4 is 1gb big, and my prognosis is that internal storage will be full after installing 300-400 mb on ext4... whats the benefit of apps2sd+ then?
i have about 50 mb on ext4 (i flashed yesterday) and internal storage decreased about 30 mb lol
i hope you guys understand what i mean
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Maybe dalvik-cache is not being moved to sd.

justwonder said:
Maybe dalvik-cache is not being moved to sd.
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ah yes you're right...
does it affect performance, when dalvik is on sd? will system be slower?
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simax said:
ah yes you're right...
does it affect performance, when dalvik is on sd? will system be slower?
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I moved dalvik-cache on my Nexus one, and I have class 4 SD, I don't notice any difference.
And I have TMOUS HD2, so I didn't do any App2sd, I'm not sure it has the same affect as on Nexus one.

justwonder said:
I moved dalvik-cache on my Nexus one, and I have class 4 SD, I don't notice any difference.
And I have TMOUS HD2, so I didn't do any App2sd, I'm not sure it has the same affect as on Nexus one.
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according to j disk benchmark my write performance is 5,88MB/s, so this should be class 4, too right?
edit: i have slower values for nand storage test

Looking for number on your SD, if you don't see any number, it's likely class 2.

10GB instead of 16BG

Hello i have a quick question. The motorola atrix 4g advertised that it has a 16 gb internal SD but mine only says 10 gb total available memory. why is this? i know that you never get the full storage when it comes to flash storage like when you buy a 8 gb memory card but only get 7.6 gb usable but why 6 gb missing on the atrix. am i the only one?

That's correct. Of the 16 gig, system files take up a few gig of space. Without the system files, your phone won't work at all.
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Please take a look at this list, then add up the sizes of all partitions there. What is the result?

You're right
Atrix is 16GB Emmc.
System partition use 6GB
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out of the 16gb (which turns to be 16000Mb -15.6Gb- and not 16384Mb as it should be) about 2Gb goes to data partition, 600mb or so for /system, and the rest is on cache, preinstall, webtop, etc... the remaining capacity is what is exposed to the user as internal sd
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oh ok.. thanks for the explanations and link also. it helped me understand. i always thought that the phone had a internal sd and system memory separated.. i didn't know it used part of the internal sd as a system partition too.. thanks again for the explanations..

[Q] SD Partition

I already partitioned my sd card months ago but this totally bothered me. I 2nd partition is 1gb and when i open settings->apps->manage applications, it still shows that my internal memory is only 190mb. What seems to be the problem?
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You want to increase you internal storage?
Cant see what you want dude

Are you using any mods?
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There is no problem here
use link2sd to mount your 2nd partition then you can link apps to free up internal storage so you can install more apps
your total internal storage will not increase - only available storage if you link apps to sd card that are currently on internal or have lib files on internal
on most deodex custom roms after you have installed around 80 apps you will have between 30mb & 60mb of free internal storage depending on the data & cache of apps

vitafit said:
You want to increase you internal storage?
Cant see what you want dude
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I want to see in task manager that my internal memory has increased.
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No i am not using any mods.
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marcussmith2626 said:
There is no problem here
use link2sd to mount your 2nd partition then you can link apps to free up internal storage so you can install more apps
your total internal storage will not increase - only available storage if you link apps to sd card that are currently on internal or have lib files on internal
on most deodex custom roms after you have installed around 80 apps you will have between 30mb & 60mb of free internal storage depending on the data & cache of apps
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I know how to mount the 2nd partition. All i want is to see that my internal memory has inreased to 1.190gb. Because in task manager, it only shows that i only have 190mb, though i already partitioned my sdcard for 1gb.
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CrazeXDA said:
I know how to mount the 2nd partition. All i want is to see that my internal memory has inreased to 1.190gb. Because in task manager, it only shows that i only have 190mb, though i already partitioned my sdcard for 1gb.
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I don't believe you understand what a 2nd partition is/does
your total internal storage will not increase - that's impossible without repartitioning the internal storage & taking space from other internal partitions which would be stupid as you would take space from boot partition
an sd card partition is on your sd card so you split the total storage of your sd card into two therefore your total internal storage hasn't increased - you haven't put a bigger internal hd in
your 2nd partition size is displayed in the info in link2sd
what it does is take apps in internal space & place them in the 2nd partition - it then leaves a link file where the app was so basically the app still behaves like it's on internal but it's not

No, i understand. Well, that would be all. No problem anymore.
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using Link2SD doesn't increase your internal memory/RAM ... Link2Sd makes it easy for Android 1.6+ users with root privileges on their phone to move applications to the "SD card".

@CrazeXDA
Do you mean something like this?
(screenshot from my 5360)

vitafit said:
@CrazeXDA
Do you mean something like this?
(screenshot from my 5360)
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Yeah! Something like that! HOW?!
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Its possible with amarullz script
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1310309
Its a script that you put in your init.d folder.
But i cannot ensure that works on every rom/kernel kombo.
With hells fusion 50# kernel + evo x3 rom is it working (my daily use)

Want to see internal storage increase? Modify the ramdisk to mpunt the sdcards 2nd partition as /data and BAM there ya go

TheExploitedOne said:
Want to see internal storage increase? Modify the ramdisk to mpunt the sdcards 2nd partition as /data and BAM there ya go
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Yea, if your SDcard not partitioned yet, the rom will bootloop

TheRealModder said:
Yea, if your SDcard not partitioned yet, the rom will bootloop
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If you modify the fstab correctly and make userdata at least 1GB you should be fine. I've partirioned my sdcard to use external sd, cache, system, and userdata giving me much more space to install roms and apps. I'd recommend a more powerful sdcard to take away the lag
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TheRealModder said:
Yea, if your SDcard not partitioned yet, the rom will bootloop
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Oh i see what you mean.. My bad boss

[Q] Why is phone storage 8.94GB after installing ROM?

I used to have 6GB free from my 16GB GS4. I installed Omega ROM and now it says 2GB free out of 8.94GB. Can I get them back and still use the rom?

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reef88 said:
I used to have 6GB free from my 16GB GS4. I installed Omega ROM and now it says 2GB free out of 8.94GB. Can I get them back and still use the rom?
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That's normal if you downloaded a lot of apps, or created a few nandroid backups.
If you have videos in the phone that also uses a lot of memory, pictures uses memory.
If you are like I am, I keep about 2 GB of MP3 songs on my phone, that's takes up
a lot of memory too.
Check for nandroid backups in either your clockworkmod folders if you use cwm recovery
or in your TWRP folder and sub-folders if you use TWRP recovery for backups.
Nandroid backups take up a lot of user available memory.
Our phones have a total of 16gb memory (a little less due to the formatting overhead).
Within that memory there is a pre-allocated partition of approx 6gb designed to
be used by the firmware/rom and it's associated files, images and cache.
The size of that partition cannot be changed by the user and if you flash a rom
which is 2GB in size or 1GB the total free available memory for the user will
remain the same, it will not add or subtract from the total free space to the user.
Good luck!

reef88 said:
I used to have 6GB free from my 16GB GS4. I installed Omega ROM and now it says 2GB free out of 8.94GB. Can I get them back and still use the rom?
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s4 has 9.13gb max free, you need to enter recovery and wipe a lot of things from internal memory
be carefull with your data
after rom flash, should be around 8gb 8.5gb (with gpe roms)

Did you make a backup using your recovery and stored it to your internal storage? That could take up A LOT of space!!

What's cached data?
It has taken up 1.42GB of my memory
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rkadve said:
What's cached data?
It has taken up 1.42GB of my memory
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Take a look the article for understand it better: HERE

Get space back ?

Hello |
After installing custom rom , and making a nandroid backup of original rom (without app installed) , I was left with 800 mb
free on the internal memory.
How can i gain more memeory?
To flash again and wipe internal storage as well ?
Thanks.

Your backup is probably taking up significant space, possibly several gigabytes. Look in the TWRP directory and copy the backups off the device and delete them from the device (or better yet, just backup to an SD card). Otherwise to go Settings - Storage and tap Internal Storage and see what is taking up the space, and delete as necessary, pay attention to Cached data space, that can easily grow to several gigabytes as well, tapping that will prompt you delete all app cache data which is generally safe to do.
Will wiping internal storage help? lol... yes, of course it will if your space is used up by files in internal storage.

Thanks
Even after moving backup to external sd. There is only 4 GB free, out of 16 GB. App is about 2 GB .
It seems strange ........

alfi07 said:
Even after moving backup to external sd. There is only 4 GB free, out of 16 GB. App is about 2 GB .
It seems strange ........
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You only have about 8GB available to begin with...
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O.K
acejavelin said:
You only have about 8GB available to begin with...
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Thanks.
That explain everything.:good: