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"You won't get 5.0 update if you have rooted your device" says MOTOROLA

Here is a copy of chat with motorola executive

This is because of new update script used in Lollipop.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...e-means-update-will-fail-system-modified-way/

bhavin192 said:
This is because of new update script used in Lollipop.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...e-means-update-will-fail-system-modified-way/
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I have flashed logo.bin file to remove unlock bootloader warning. will it make my device ineligible?

spbias said:
I have flashed logo.bin file to remove unlock bootloader warning. will it make my device ineligible?
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Better would be flash stock firmware or revert the changes and update the phone as written in the post by androidpolice

bhavin192 said:
Better would be flash stock firmware or revert the changes and update the phone as written in the post by androidpolice
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I flashed lolipop in my xt1068, then i reverted back to stock. In this process my unlocked bootloader warning is gone but bootloader is still unlocked. I don't want to flash the stock back right away If i get ota update its good butt if i won't there is xda always for me right?
Thanks for your help though

If you're on stock rom+recovery and you're not rooted, you can have your bootloader unlocked, you will still get the official update.

zman01 said:
If you're on stock rom+recovery and you're not rooted, you can have your bootloader unlocked, you will still get the official update.
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yeah thanks

Thanks a lot

I am carrying a XT1063, right out of the box, unmodified, as virgin as it could be and still NO Lolipop update 'til now and I keep patiently waiting.
The executive team should have cared for us more than worrying about rooted ones.

As usual chat support doesn't know diddly, because I received all the lollipop OTAs while being rooted.
You just can't install them while rooted though. So revert to your pre-root backup (YOU BACKED UP YOUR /SYSTEM BEFORE ROOTING, RIGHT??!??) and then install the OTA.

spbias said:
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HA HA HA! Great LAME joke by historical JOKERS! I have longtime rage on this company due to past bad experiences with this company. They did good by allowing easy and official unlock procedure.
But here you missed the GOLDEN CHANCE TO HUMILIATE them! I would have typed this, >>>> "LIKE WE DO CARE? HA HA HA! Look MotoJokers, if update comes to one UnRooted/Locked phone, it will be on all Rooted/UnLocked Phones within few hours! Go ahead and prove yourself loser. BTW I am on Brazil Lollipop 5.0.1"
LITERALLY! I would have literally said that. You really missed This happened in past and still no one worried.
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If you're on stock rom+recovery and you're not rooted, you can have your bootloader unlocked, you will still get the official update.
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Thats not always true. The update installer can easily trace the status of UNLOCKED bootloader and may refuse to install. Thats mostly possible. So dont just under-estimate. Update procedures can also recognize the rooted phone status and reject to install.
Does not matter if one unlocked/rooted phone gets next update, most people here on xda will have within few hours.

Lol seems like I missed for sure. Anyways I was only trying to gather info so....
Sent from my XT1068 using XDA Free mobile app

Guys I've had devices from apple, Samsung, sony and HTC plz stop *****in at least moto gives u an opportunity to taste the best as soon as possible, no one else does so stop complaining

cmahendra said:
Thats not always true. The update installer can easily trace the status of UNLOCKED bootloader and may refuse to install. Thats mostly possible. So dont just under-estimate. Update procedures can also recognize the rooted phone status and reject to install.
Does not matter if one unlocked/rooted phone gets next update, most people here on xda will have within few hours.
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In this case it's true, but if you don't beleive me, you can go to motorola owner's forum and ask them.

If people got the OTA's, then some of them will upload it so rooted and/or impatient users can flash them manually right?

votinh said:
I am carrying a XT1063, right out of the box, unmodified, as virgin as it could be and still NO Lolipop update 'til now and I keep patiently waiting.
The executive team should have cared for us more than worrying about rooted ones.
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I feel the exact same way! I've got a straight from Motorola retail XT1064 no changes and nothing....

I can't believe anyone would call that chat support an "executive"

What would you say then??
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spbias said:
What would you say then??
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First level CSR....

Okay I will remember that for next time. It doesn't matter anyways. What matters is the info.
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Android 5.1.1 update available... for Verizon Note Pro 12.2

With 5.1.1, many other changes also coming to tablet. Like, Reactivation Lock, Download booster, etc. and Stagefright fix ofc.
Full changelog at source below.
The build no. is P905VVRUANK5 and P905VVRUBOH1.
-- SOURCE

Would you believe my first VZW Note Pro 12.2 is arriving today? Yes I am late to the party but it's on FedEx truck for delivery now. This is my first Android tablet. You JUST made my day! Wow what timing!
Edit : I hope this is true. Source page gives a not found 404 error
Edit Edit: the URL had an error. Here it is again:
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/andro...y-note-pro-12-2-tablet-rolling-out-now-84315/
I am simply beside myself on the timing of this upgrade.
Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

Did the upgrade this morning. Bit of a heart stop when it sat at the Verizon screen for about 5 minutes on the reboot, but then it finally brought up the updating apps screen.
Only problem I've found so far is that for some reason, it removed just about every one of my purchased apps. All the free ones were there, but had to go out to the store and re-download all those I had bought. Strange...

Verizon Messenging crashes for me, but if I uninstall the Verizon Messenging app update it will work. Other than that 5.1.1 working thus far.
Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

How in the world did the Verizon version come out before the wifi?!?! Verizon is NEVER first... They are usually dead last! As with my note 4....still on 5.0.2 several months after the release of 5.1
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Has anyone been able to root or keep root after updating?

Has anyone found where we can download the update from so I can flash it with Odin?

SugeLover said:
Has anyone been able to root or keep root after updating?
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I too am awaiting confirmation on this before updating

I have the update.zip if it will help any devs with root or bootloader unlocking. It seems the update is a 2-parter, I have the the first update which according to the description "prepares your device for the 5.1.1 update." Please contact me if anyone can use it

Due to some new policies at work, Rooted devices weren't allowed to be connected to our E-mail, so I went ahead and took the plunge to 5.1.1 without worrying about rooting (gasp....did I just say that?). Anyhow, this thing feels like a new device. Much smoother, more responsive and it seems that the battery life is actually improved. IF Root does come along for the 5.1.1 update, I may root it and just use one of my other tablets for work, but I'm pleasantly surprised how well the NP runs at this point. Also...REALLY surprised that Verizon actually had the 5.1.1 update.

tdetroit said:
Due to some new policies at work, Rooted devices weren't allowed to be connected to our E-mail, so I went ahead and took the plunge to 5.1.1 without worrying about rooting (gasp....did I just say that?). Anyhow, this thing feels like a new device. Much smoother, more responsive and it seems that the battery life is actually improved. IF Root does come along for the 5.1.1 update, I may root it and just use one of my other tablets for work, but I'm pleasantly surprised how well the NP runs at this point. Also...REALLY surprised that Verizon actually had the 5.1.1 update.
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Can you test the old root method and see if it works? TIA

It does not.

tdetroit said:
It does not.
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Hi - I just got my NP today delivered and got the new OTA update. Can you provide any of the root methods that previously worked for you on the P905v? You stated that your job doesnt allow the rooted device but I am wondering if this one can be rooted still any way? I want to run linux deploy on here to run Fedora or Ubuntu but always end up down a rabbit trail with this setup that I can never get out of
Thanks for any help!

ckozler said:
Hi - I just got my NP today delivered and got the new OTA update. Can you provide any of the root methods that previously worked for you on the P905v? You stated that your job doesnt allow the rooted device but I am wondering if this one can be rooted still any way? I want to run linux deploy on here to run Fedora or Ubuntu but always end up down a rabbit trail with this setup that I can never get out of
Thanks for any help!
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I don't think there's a root yet for the Verizon variant, and I've not actively searched for one at this point. It was needed while the Tablet was on 4.4.2, but 5.1.1 gives me enough control not to worry about it too much right now. Before I used Towelroot, which will NOT work on the new version.

tdetroit said:
It does not.
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tdetroit said:
I don't think there's a root yet for the Verizon variant, and I've not actively searched for one at this point. It was needed while the Tablet was on 4.4.2, but 5.1.1 gives me enough control not to worry about it too much right now. Before I used Towelroot, which will NOT work on the new version.
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Thanks for the feedback!
I have a specific reason to root and thats to use linux deploy so I can have a fully functional Linux OS on my tablet which would be really ideal so I think the root is still required. What control did you gain in upgrading to 5.1.1 ? Linux deploy needs root and SELinux permissive, from what I can tell, to use a loopback device and install the Linux OS there so I think even if I did get root, I'd still need to custom compile a kernel and to that end, I am not too confident in possibly bricking my brand new tablet. For now I seem to be able to settle on a VNC session to a Linux VM I have on DigitalOcean

i'm totally excited that my NP will eventually be updated to 5.1.1 it's just i'm still completely confused on why my stock (no-carrier) branded NP is still on 5.0.1, when Big-Red carrier is rolling out 5.1.1 to their devices.
I think I can smell the money being transferred to Sammy for Bid-Red's propriety rollout.

ckozler said:
Thanks for the feedback!
I have a specific reason to root and thats to use linux deploy so I can have a fully functional Linux OS on my tablet which would be really ideal so I think the root is still required. What control did you gain in upgrading to 5.1.1 ? Linux deploy needs root and SELinux permissive, from what I can tell, to use a loopback device and install the Linux OS there so I think even if I did get root, I'd still need to custom compile a kernel and to that end, I am not too confident in possibly bricking my brand new tablet. For now I seem to be able to settle on a VNC session to a Linux VM I have on DigitalOcean
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I've actually noticed less bloatware, and apps that I couldn't disable before (which is why I rooted so I could get rid of them), I can disable now. I have a 128GB card in it loaded with Music, Books, Images, and on 4.4.2-the device would often F/C which it's no longer doing. I've also noticed that the micro-stutters as I call them, are gone. Everything is a lot smoother.
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lawalty said:
i'm totally excited that my NP will eventually be updated to 5.1.1 it's just i'm still completely confused on why my stock (no-carrier) branded NP is still on 5.0.1, when Big-Red carrier is rolling out 5.1.1 to their devices.
I think I can smell the money being transferred to Sammy for Bid-Red's propriety rollout.
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Trust me friend....I was just as surprised when my Verizon Tablet had the update. I read about it while at work and told my Team Lead that I MUST go home right now, work from home or something, but I gotta leave NOW.

Do I have to throw my Verizon SIM to get the update or can I just keep it on WiFi?

sebastianraven said:
Do I have to throw my Verizon SIM to get the update or can I just keep it on WiFi?
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Mine came over Wifi but I've always had my Verizon SIM in. Not sure if there was a pre-check before downloading.

I'm upgrading my rooted tablet now using Kies (I figure the upgrade is worth risking losing root--but I'm not sure it'll work anyway since I outright deleted Knox). I'll let you know if TR works to re-root, or if I lose root in the first place.
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dot dot dot ... apparently I didn't read the threads above I'm upgrading regardless.

New update

I am not sure why no one is talking about it. but the update that was being tested is now being released to everyone. I think I have better wifi and blue tooth then before then update.

smooth781 said:
I am not sure why no one is talking about it. but the update that was being tested is now being released to everyone. I think I have better wifi and blue tooth then before then update.
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Interesting. Must be the stagefright patch update. Can you give me the build number, or post a screenshot of your device info?

Sure here is a screen shot

smooth781 said:
Sure here is a screen shot
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Awesome, thanks. Once someone captures the OTA, or once Verizon releases the full firmware, I'll create new versions of my custom system.imgs based on it. Can you confirm that the stagefright vulnerabilities have been patched using this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zimperium.stagefrightdetector?

keeps failing to update. 3rd try.

This was not stagefright. I am not patched per this app.

smooth781 said:
This was not stagefright. I am not patched per this app.
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Even more interesting. I wonder what this update is all about then.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B29Dy2cIxJSXdk13MG1BMW4talU/view?usp=sharing
try this

I have never got wifi speeds like this before on my phone. I like it.

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B29Dy2cIxJSXdk13MG1BMW4talU/view?usp=sharing
try this
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That's 23.11.39. It came out in July.

if theres anything i can do to help i have the update downloaded atm and waiting on my turbo, West coast (Washington) 23.21.44
Dubbed:
"This software update includes Android security update for your Motorola Droid Turbo"

So should we upgrade? I'm not rooted, but I would like to. Also I'm on 5.1

nils39 said:
So should we upgrade? I'm not rooted, but I would like to. Also I'm on 5.1
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If you really want to root, I'd wait. Potentially there is a bootloader unlock coming which may provide it for 5.1. If you upgrade, who knows what happens.
No one knows when though. UItimately, if root is important to you, not updating is always the best decision.

My WiFi speed is the same it has always been and it's still vulnerable to stagefright.

Ok it doesn't seem like a very important update so I'll just hold off. Are you referring to the rootnija's work on unlocking it?

When you put your phone on a wireless charger, a full-screen dialog no longer pops up to tell you that it's wireless charging (at least, while playing a video in the YouTube app).

It is stagefright patch at 30 mb but it still left 1 vulnerability. I hate vzw. I use zimperium detector

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That's 23.11.39. It came out in July.
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This is what was in my cache folder, as well, in the status of the phone it reads version system version 23.11.39.
This is kinda confusing.

wrecklesswun said:
This is what was in my cache folder, as well, in the status of the phone it reads version system version 23.11.39.
This is kinda confusing.
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It could be that for some reason you never got the OTA that came out immediately after the initial lollipop release. But yeah, 23.11.39 is old news. 23.21.44 appears to be the number for the most recent update.

it shows as it's applied?
https://dl.pushbulletusercontent.co...yQTu2b3BWP/Screenshot_2015-10-07-15-59-13.png
i also deleted and it is only recently that this file shows as an update - prior, i would check for updates and daily it would show that i am up to date.
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the update says .44 but the cache file is 39, and is also 30 mb approx... am i missing something? also if applied, can't i mofo it?

Brand New XT1625 MPJ24.139-48: Any options for Root?

October 26th, 2016:
The title says it all. What options do I have for root (dump the ads, custom firmware, etc)?
Anything at all?
Any help would be appreciated,
Thank you very much!

Check out android doctor on YouTube

TheDave78 said:
October 26th, 2016:
The title says it all. What options do I have for root (dump the ads, custom firmware, etc)?
Anything at all?
Any help would be appreciated,
Thank you very much!
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Is it the Amazon ad version? If so, then you have very little to no options other than possibly removing the ads.

Tel864 said:
Is it the Amazon ad version? If so, then you have very little to no options other than possibly removing the ads.
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Yes, it is the XT1625. I bought when it was at $120 earlier this week. Initially I did a quick search and found several threads about removing the ads and rooting.
It wasn't till after the purchase when I found all the other threads about no more root / bootloader unlock / removing ads
I was hoping since mine is still on the older -48 version that I had some hope, but it isn't looking like it...

One more question then before I return this.
Can I enable wi-fi tethering an un-rooted Moto G4?

TheDave78 said:
One more question then before I return this.
Can I enable wi-fi tethering an un-rooted Moto G4?
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Depends on your carrier. I cant on AT&T but can on T-Mobile

TheDave78 said:
One more question then before I return this.
Can I enable wi-fi tethering an un-rooted Moto G4?
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I'm not suggesting this because you never know with motorola and their policies but a couple of us bricked our Amazon phones while trying to flash them and had to send them to the service center. They were reflashed with non-Amazon roms at no cost. I wouldn't suggest trying anything though with the Amazon version unrooted. if you can afford it I would highly suggest returning it for the regular version.

I ended up returning it, and for another ~100 got the 32gb model...

TheDave78 said:
October 26th, 2016:
The title says it all. What options do I have for root (dump the ads, custom firmware, etc)?
Anything at all?
Any help would be appreciated,
Thank you very much!
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One reason I didn't opt for saving a few bucks by purchasing the Amazon version of this phone. I've never regretted that decision.

pastorbob62 said:
One reason I didn't opt for saving a few bucks by purchasing the Amazon version of this phone. I've never regretted that decision.
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Hehe, I always regretted getting the Amazon version but accidentally bricking it was the best decision I made when Motorola reflashed it with a retus furmware.

Tel864 said:
Hehe, I always regretted getting the Amazon version but accidentally bricking it was the best decision I made when Motorola reflashed it with a retus furmware.
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Yes, but don't update it via OTA or you will be back to Amazon version (or so I have read).

pastorbob62 said:
Yes, but don't update it via OTA or you will be back to Amazon version (or so I have read).
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I would imagine those were on the Amz update channel but any phone on a retus update channel should not revert.

G935U Nougat

Hi All,
I'm a little confused as to where us U firmware users stand with Nougat. I've seen differing reports of what the known plan is with this. I believe some are saying we're waiting for Verizon to release it to the 935u, otherwise I'm reading that we're on a quarterly update schedule and won't be seeing anything until April.
I bought my 935V from VZW and flashed over to unrooted U firmware - actually by using the normal flash method and then doing a firmware restore from verizon's utility to get full unroot. Not exactly a typical method, but it gave me peace of mind knowing everything is completely stock U.
Everything is running great so I'm not in urgent need of an update for any reason, but would like to see some new features.
Lemme know if anyone has any clues here as for what to expect. Thanks in advance!

Not exactly sure what you mean by going full "unroot".. unless you ment, you wanted the U firmware for a smoother "root" can you please clarify bubby?
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Action123 said:
Hi All,
I'm a little confused as to where us U firmware users stand with Nougat. I've seen differing reports of what the known plan is with this. I believe some are saying we're waiting for Verizon to release it to the 935u, otherwise I'm reading that we're on a quarterly update schedule and won't be seeing anything until April.
I bought my 935V from VZW and flashed over to unrooted U firmware - actually by using the normal flash method and then doing a firmware restore from verizon's utility to get full unroot. Not exactly a typical method, but it gave me peace of mind knowing everything is completely stock U.
Everything is running great so I'm not in urgent need of an update for any reason, but would like to see some new features.
Lemme know if anyone has any clues here as for what to expect. Thanks in advance!
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But anyway, lol. You are correct of the U FW being released somewhere around April. Verizon isn't responsible for U firmware, Samsung is.. I'm actually surprised Verizon released before U

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Not exactly sure what you mean by going full "unroot".. unless you ment, you wanted the U firmware for a smoother "root" can you please clarify bubby?
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But anyway, lol. You are correct of the U FW being released somewhere around April. Verizon isn't responsible for U firmware, Samsung is.. I'm actually surprised Verizon released before U
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Good to know. Thanks.
I had to root in order to flash U FW, but the root process we have for GS7 is really process heavy and battery draining. I wanted an unrooted version of the U firmware with no bullsh*t and good battery life so I unrooted and restored using the software tool.

Action123 said:
Good to know. Thanks.
I had to root in order to flash U FW, but the root process we have for GS7 is really process heavy and battery draining. I wanted an unrooted version of the U firmware with no bullsh*t and good battery life so I unrooted and restored using the software tool.
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Ah Gotcha, sorry I misunderstood the op. Maybe give the T or V carrier FW a spin till U gets released? I haven't upgraded yet but am tempted. Been using stang 5.0 rom and been pretty impressed. I'd say I would recommend it even with the faults of the eng boot.
I also believe I seen a "no root no bull**** playstore Nougat rom" by jkruse, or something to that effect. If that's something your into

Lots of cry babies over in the Samsung forums. I can see why everyone is so upset but Samsung never promised faster updates for unlocked variants over carrier models. I'm content waiting at least until April for the nougat release of the 935u. Screw Verizon bloat. It's not worth putting up with it for Nougat.

There are some articles with Samsung's new commitment for monthly security updates on unlocked devices. This should mean that the 935U will get Nougat this month with March security update.

junear said:
There are some articles with Samsung's new commitment for monthly security updates on unlocked devices. This could mean that the 935U will get Nougat this month with March security update.
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Fixed.
Expect nothing. Never get disappointed.
Magnus_CA said:
Lots of cry babies over in the Samsung forums. I can see why everyone is so upset but Samsung never promised faster updates for unlocked variants over carrier models. I'm content waiting at least until April for the nougat release of the 935u. Screw Verizon bloat. It's not worth putting up with it for Nougat.
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Well, sorta agree with you. I'm patiently waiting for the U update to 7.0, but in the mean time I'm running the Verizon update on a backup device. I can't really enjoy 6.0.1's UI after having Grace UX.

G935U Nougat (G935UUEU4BQD2) is now available!
check samfirm and sammobile for downloads of firmware G935UUEU4BQD2 (7.0)!

jtash01 said:
check samfirm and sammobile for downloads of firmware G935UUEU4BQD2 (7.0)!
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Smart Switch PC can also do an in-place update to 7.0. It's the April security patch.

I've downloaded the nougat U firmware and can't get it to install over the latest VZW firmware, the one that came out in the last few days. Has anyone been able to, if so please outline your steps.

I have U firmware on Verizon s7 edge works as charm. Use latest Odin to install the firmware

seemcity said:
I have U firmware on Verizon s7 edge works as charm. Use latest Odin to install the firmware
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which is latest odin I've tried 3.10 3.11 3.12

gunnyman said:
I've downloaded the nougat U firmware and can't get it to install over the latest VZW firmware, the one that came out in the last few days. Has anyone been able to, if so please outline your steps.
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I would flash the full Odin package for U 6.0 and then use Smart Switch PC to update to 7.0.

http://updato.com/firmware-archive-select-model?record=08ABA51C2C6F11E7963AFA163EE8F90B

Can anyone on an UDP confirm if you can tether the unlocked software of the 935u on 7.0 nougat now that it is out?

RyanEJ25 said:
Can anyone on an UDP confirm if you can tether the unlocked software of the 935u on 7.0 nougat now that it is out?
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Yes i have the original UDP and the tethering option works. How ever i cant get the verizon video calling to work??

So from what I'm getting, to install (if I'm on Verizon Nougat), flash Unlocked 6.0 first, then smart switch to 7.0? Also, I read that someone had been having issues with using LTE while in a phone call, can anyone confirm? And what happened to all the other fix files, since I remember the first time flashing the unlocked software required more subsequent flashes as well.