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[Q] Help on which to get

I preordered a Samsung galaxy note 4 AT&T version allready but i can just change it need be, heres my problem, i want to be able to root and unlock the bootloader when i get my note 4 but i found out that att always has there bootloader locked, i found this out because i bought an s5 on att and couldnt unlock the bootloader so i was stuck with it until i got my htc one m8, but now im switching over to a galaxy note 4 and im on the att network, i would like to know which variant i should get so i can root, unlock the bootloader and have att 4G LTE or something just as fast like HSPA or something like that, i dont want to get stuck with out root or an unlocked bootloader or have terrible service. Please somebody help me out. Thanks, Joshua

Joshua.n said:
I preordered a Samsung galaxy note 4 AT&T version allready but i can just change it need be, heres my problem, i want to be able to root and unlock the bootloader when i get my note 4 but i found out that att always has there bootloader locked, i found this out because i bought an s5 on att and couldnt unlock the bootloader so i was stuck with it until i got my htc one m8, but now im switching over to a galaxy note 4 and im on the att network, i would like to know which variant i should get so i can root, unlock the bootloader and have att 4G LTE or something just as fast like HSPA or something like that, i dont want to get stuck with out root or an unlocked bootloader or have terrible service. Please somebody help me out. Thanks, Joshua
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Joshua,
Welcome to XDA. The T-Mobile USA version will support all of AT&T's frequencies, with full LTE support. Many people here opt to go for the T-Mobile version because they don't lock down the bootloader and usually within the first week it has root access. Be advised, getting the TMO version may not be super easy, as there have been different reports from members here. Some stores refuse to sell it to you outright without an account. Some stores you can walk right in, have no account, and buy it. Then there is the unlocking process. Not too hard to find a cheap site.
I have bought the TMO Note 3, and S5 outright for use on AT&T. When I had the TMO Note 3, I had nothing but reception issues with LTE, despite the phone having band 17 (AT&T) support. Whenever the phone was connected to LTE on AT&T, it sucked. The -dbm was always higher than an AT&T branded Android (yes I compared) and my then iPhone 5S. In places I had good LTE reception with my 5S, I was getting HSPA+ on my TMO Note 3. I returned it because I couldn't stand it.
The TMO S5 on AT&T was better, but still not excellent. I ended up returning the device because I hated it haha. But nonetheless, when you use a TMO device on AT&T you forfeit things like carrier aggregation (which AT&T is working on now) and visual voicemail. You also have to worry about who to contact if your device malfunctions. You'll have to jump through a lot of hoops because Samsung and T-Mobile will just keep pointing the finger at the other guy. Obviously if your an AT&T customer your no subscribing to T-Mobile's jump insurance program.
So yeah, I hope I gave you some help advice. Yeah I HATE supporting AT&T branded devices, but at the end of the day, I'd rather spend my time enjoying my device instead of finding ways to optimize the signal or trying to read up on flashing a new modem.

Just a quick question if I continue to get the note 4 AT&T variant will towel root work on it, I don't even care so much for the boot loader but there are simple things with root that I just love and can't be without like the SD fix, any idea?

Joshua.n said:
Just a quick question if I continue to get the note 4 AT&T variant will towel root work on it, I don't even care so much for the boot loader but there are simple things with root that I just love and can't be without like the SD fix, any idea?
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Now that the developer went to work for Google, Towel Root is dead.

JimSmith94 said:
Now that the developer went to work for Google, Towel Root is dead.
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So there wont be a root for att note 4? Unless someone else comes up with one?

Joshua.n said:
So there wont be a root for att note 4? Unless someone else comes up with one?
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Chainfire is hard at work rooting them as he gets the system dumps. So far, there is no root that doesn't trip Knox on any Samsung phone running 4.4.4 (or greater). From what I've read, Google hired the Towel Root developer to plug that security hole.

JimSmith94 said:
Chainfire is hard at work rooting them as he gets the system dumps. So far, there is no root that doesn't trip Knox on any Samsung phone running 4.4.4 (or greater). From what I've read, Google hired the Towel Root developer to plug that security hole.
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Well I hope chainfire makes a breakthrough. Smart of Google but kind of a piss off

Joshua.n said:
Well I hope chainfire makes a breakthrough. Smart of Google but kind of a piss off
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Chainfire's root process has always tripped Knox.

JimSmith94 said:
Chainfire's root process has always tripped Knox.
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THIS...

Samsung Pay on G930F / G935F (International Variant)

Hi, anybody got Samsung Pay working on the International Variant of the S7 / S7 Edge (G930F / G935F) in USA.
I flashed mine with UK firmware:- PDA (G935FXXU1APB4), CSC (G935FVIR1APB3)
Sideloaded :-
Samsung Pay Framework 2.1.06 (http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/samsun...ng-pay-framework-2-1-06-android-apk-download/)
Samsung Pay 1.7.04 (http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/samsun...ease/samsung-pay-1-7-04-android-apk-download/)
But I get this message :- "Failed to connect to server. Try again later."
Google Play says :- "This app is incompatible with all of your devices." (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.android.spay)
Note: I am using T-mobile with my phone.
Sorry if this is a duplicate post.
Thanks

If I install both .apk files it lets me get all the way up until the add card screen and once I take a picture it just infinitely loads.
Edit: I got past that by going into settings and giving Samsung Pay and Samsung Pay Framework all permissions asked. When I get to the screen where it's validating the card after the TOA it just gives me the server error.
Also if I try to use my fingerprint it just takes me back to the pin option screen, I can't proceed unless I use a pin
Note: I am using an AT&T MVNO (cricket)

It's not out yet in the UK and no card issuer currently supports it, it won't work until then.

So even though I am in US, I cannot use Samsung Pay.
I am feeling a little bit restricted here Samsung, as far as I knew, Samsung was not Apple. But now, its hard to say.

Zyxxeil said:
If I install both .apk files it lets me get all the way up until the add card screen and once I take a picture it just infinitely loads.
Edit: I got past that by going into settings and giving Samsung Pay and Samsung Pay Framework all permissions asked. When I get to the screen where it's validating the card after the TOA it just gives me the server error.
Also if I try to use my fingerprint it just takes me back to the pin option screen, I can't proceed unless I use a pin
Note: I am using an AT&T MVNO (cricket)
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Are you using international variant of S7

Yes

Yeah that's what I though. Wait until Samsung pay releases in the UK and then add my cards after. But it's sucks. It shouldn't be firmware attached. Oh Samsung.. Now debating if I should wait or just root and enjoy a rooted s7 edge
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For me, Samsung Pay is worth the wait

So I was about to buy an international Galaxy S7 Edge G935F to use with my AT&T line... but after checking here and there I couldn't find an answer for the Samsung Pay..even the customer support for the Samsung Pay said that they are only trained to answer questions for US vairants S7 only but they told me I can try install the app and see if it will work or not as it still only support in the US only, but they mentioned an update to come later but to certain markets..my biggest fear is that if it didn't reach the international version at all!!

osmosizzz said:
Yeah that's what I though. Wait until Samsung pay releases in the UK and then add my cards after. But it's sucks. It shouldn't be firmware attached. Oh Samsung.. Now debating if I should wait or just root and enjoy a rooted s7 edge
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I remember people saying this exact same thing with the international S6... and those people are still waiting LOL.
Root your device, I highly doubt samsung pay will be coming anytime soon.

Yes it sucks but you can still use Android pay in US.. That is widely supported by banks!!

Goronok said:
I remember people saying this exact same thing with the international S6... and those people are still waiting LOL.
Root your device, I highly doubt samsung pay will be coming anytime soon.
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That's what I'm thinking Yeah.
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mikereyes01 said:
Yes it sucks but you can still use Android pay in US.. That is widely supported by banks!!
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Yeah I can true. So fixated in Samsung pay, I forgot about android pay. I guess that's something
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Same issue here - no Samsung Pay on SMg935f
I've searched multiple forums and looks like we have to wait for an international firmware that Samsung opens up Pay on. Sigh

Flash tmobile firmware
Out of curiosity, would it be possible to flash the tmobile official firmware on an international s7 edge and be able to use samsung pay?

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expired_retired said:
Out of curiosity, would it be possible to flash the tmobile official firmware on an international s7 edge and be able to use samsung pay?
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No. The tmobile firmware has the snapdragon variant. We have the exynos. And even so, without root, Odin most likely wouldn't let us flash the tmobile firmware on an international device. US carriers think their versions of the phones firmware is sacred. Wish Samsung used it's size and just went the apple way. One variant, all carriers. One software the model no matter where it's sold
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osmosizzz said:
No. The tmobile firmware has the snapdragon variant. We have the exynos. And even so, without root, Odin most likely wouldn't let us flash the tmobile firmware on an international device. US carriers think their versions of the phones firmware is sacred. Wish Samsung used it's size and just went the apple way. One variant, all carriers. One software the model no matter where it's sold
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Even with root you won't be able to run the T-Mobile firmware on it. Think of it as using a whole different architecture.
Envoyé de mon SM-G935F en utilisant Tapatalk

Here in Brazil it's being sold the SM-G935F model but i got mine S7 on Canada (model SM-G935W8 ) ... so i'm guessing when the service debut here i'll have to wait to be also working on Canada?
That's stupid as ****, if you ask me. God damn samsung....
And by the way, i coudln't find 1 single diference in hardware betwen the SM-G935F and the SM-G935W8, so why the hell can't I flash the internacional model G935F on my phone?

I've never used these mobile payment apps but I've been interested in trying them out. I don't have an S7 yet but Samsung Pay was one of the things I was looking forward to.
Any thoughts on how Samsung Pay would compare to Android Pay? Do I lose a lot by using Android Pay over Samsung Pay?

johnusesandroid said:
I've never used these mobile payment apps but I've been interested in trying them out. I don't have an S7 yet but Samsung Pay was one of the things I was looking forward to.
Any thoughts on how Samsung Pay would compare to Android Pay? Do I lose a lot by using Android Pay over Samsung Pay?
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The only difference is that you lose the MST capability.

New To Andriod

Hey guys,
I am currently an iPhone user since day one. I guess I am getting tired of waiting for a jailbreak and waiting on developers to update their tweaks so I want to move to an S7.
I been looking on Craigslist for a S7 and I see a bunch of AT&T phones but I am on Verizon. I know both carriers are different from one another using different bands but can I use an ATT phone on a Verizon network if it's unlocked? I was told by Verizon that I can but someone else said I can't.
I am just curious to see if the S7 is all band compatible?
I don't want to spend $700 and not be able to use it. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

JoeFromSFO said:
Hey guys,
I am currently an iPhone user since day one. I guess I am getting tired of waiting for a jailbreak and waiting on developers to update their tweaks so I want to move to an S7.
I been looking on Craigslist for a S7 and I see a bunch of AT&T phones but I am on Verizon. I know both carriers are different from one another using different bands but can I use an ATT phone on a Verizon network if it's unlocked? I was told by Verizon that I can but someone else said I can't.
I am just curious to see if the S7 is all band compatible?
I don't want to spend $700 and not be able to use it. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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You need to buy an international variant if you want root. SM-G935F

dynospectrum said:
You need to buy an international variant if you want root. SM-G935F
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Are you saying if I buy a US S7 I can't root the phone?

re: S7 Edge
JoeFromSFO said:
Are you saying if I buy a US S7 I can't root the phone?
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Yes, there are no US S7 or S7 Edge phones which can be rooted.
The very last late model Samsung Galaxy phones which can still be
rooted are the S6, S6 Edge, S6 Edge+ & Note 5 US branded phones.
So if you want a S7 Edge you will have to purchase an international
model G935F.
Good luck,
Have a great day!

Misterjunky said:
Yes, there are no US S7 or S7 Edge phones which can be rooted.
The very last late model Samsung Galaxy phones which can still be
rooted are the S6, S6 Edge, S6 Edge+ & Note 5 US branded phones.
So if you want a S7 Edge you will have to purchase an international
model G935F.
Good luck,
Have a great day!
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So rooting is only for installing roms correct? Thanks for this info, I almost bought one from CL.
Can you still install tweaks without rooting?

Also just to confirm the SM-G935F model will work on Verizon correct?

JoeFromSFO said:
Also just to confirm the SM-G935F model will work on Verizon correct?
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Yes it will, all you will need to do is pop in an activated Verizon micro sim card.
Good luck,
Have a great day!
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JoeFromSFO said:
So rooting is only for installing roms correct? Thanks for this info, I almost bought one from CL.
Can you still install tweaks without rooting?
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You cannot install or flash any roms, tweaks or mods unless the phone is rooted. (With very few exceptions)
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Does the Canadian version G935W8 can be rooted?

re: canadian s7 Edge
XGARX said:
Does the Canadian version G935W8 can be rooted?
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Yes it can.
If you want to know how, go to this xda link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development/recovery-official-twrp-hero2lte-3-0-0-0-t3334084
It will guide you thru the rooting process.
The W8 Canadian S7 Edge is rooted the
same way as all the international versions.
You don't even need to root the phone if you are
going to flash a custom rom...
All custom roms are pre-rooted so you will only
need to odin flash TWRP by following the guide
in the link above.
Good luck,
Have a great day!

JoeFromSFO said:
Also just to confirm the SM-G935F model will work on Verizon correct?
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Yes it will, all you will need to do is pop in an activated Verizon micro sim card.
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Are you sure the international version supports CDMA?

I read it only supports 4G not 3G or 2G.
That kind of sux because to me Verizon does not have good coverage.

If I buy a phone from Verizon I guess can't root it, what can I do? Can I install custom tweaks and is there a free App Store like AppCake?

I would be careful using phones built on another network even if unlocked. The phone and sms will work but picture / video and data connections will be spotty.
Verizon and Sprint work off of CDMA and all other carries r on GSM.
LTE frequencies r built different for each network. If I was u n spending that money, I would buy the phone that was made for the carrier u r looking to do business with.
U can search through the Google play store. All tweaks that come from apps in there u can install without root.
If u r used to Cydia which u change system parameters of the native phone or status bar icons, that is all done with root.
Android gives u a million more customization options unrooted. Not like the iPhone. I have also used an iPhone for years and only because of the jailbreak. Without a JB I would of never used the iPhone. I switched to android as well because new JBs don't come out as quick especially since every other month Apple releases a new IOS.
I am amazed with all the options and great camera that s7 has over the iPhone. The iPhone 7 still sounds to be years behind.
I am actually selling an AT&T unused s7 device.
Good luck!!!
AnThOnY- S7 Edge

iTouch24 said:
I would be careful using phones built on another network even if unlocked. The phone and sms will work but picture / video and data connections will be spotty.
Verizon and Sprint work off of CDMA and all other carries r on GSM.
LTE frequencies r built different for each network. If I was u n spending that money, I would buy the phone that was made for the carrier u r looking to do business with.
U can search through the Google play store. All tweaks that come from apps in there u can install without root.
If u r used to Cydia which u change system parameters of the native phone or status bar icons, that is all done with root.
Android gives u a million more customization options unrooted. Not like the iPhone. I have also used an iPhone for years and only because of the jailbreak. Without a JB I would of never used the iPhone. I switched to android as well because new JBs don't come out as quick especially since every other month Apple releases a new IOS.
I am amazed with all the options and great camera that s7 has over the iPhone. The iPhone 7 still sounds to be years behind.
I am actually selling an AT&T unused s7 device.
Good luck!!!
AnThOnY- S7 Edge
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Actually I am using Echoe Rom do you really recommend me to install a Stock rom? I don't really like how looks my phone. There are some stuff missing like TouchWiz features. I am using a G935W8

sprint S7E on cricket. best way for root and clean rom?

Hello
I have a Sprint varient Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge. I paid a company a couple months back $15 to Sim Unlock the device (android doctor i believe the company was named). they did a great job!
well, now I rooted my device with the simple ODIN developer flash, and root is successful too!
so now I am running a Sprint Varient Unlocked Galaxy S7 Edge on Cricket (GSM, ATT).
my question is, I want to get rid of all the bloatware and Sprint crap, what is the best way to do that? I want it removed not disabled. i just want a clean rom to use

Yeah that's what I'm doing too, same deal. Like to change the sprint boot up too but just starting on s7e. Looks like you can't put a custom recovery on it but can use flashfire for zips and whatnot. Coming from nexus n not used to this bs Lol anyway if you figure it out lmk know and I'll do likewise.

Android doctor ripped me off just for future references of anyone coming thru here make sure you Google them
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Franzferdinan51 said:
Android doctor ripped me off just for future references of anyone coming thru here make sure you Google them
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Did they ever contact you again? Just paid them 20 to unlock my S7 Edge but never got any replies?

Root and twrp for exynos version already out

Not everyone heads to the development forums so thought Id post this here.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=71996216
Please thank the developer on that thread.
Roms are already popping up as well! :thumbup:
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too bad its not for the Verizon S8+

Nice to see a familiar name over here @force70! Just ordered my phone today and hope to be getting it soon.

Jayster0966 said:
Nice to see a familiar name over here @force70! Just ordered my phone today and hope to be getting it soon.
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Haha! Yes its been awhile for sure. Hope all is well?
I think we will see alot of the old crew on the s8 which will be awesome

happy2472 said:
too bad its not for the Verizon S8+
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But we all knew the snapdragon would be locked tight and see zero development.
Im ditching mine hopefully next week for the exynos if my vendor gets stock
sent from my S8 plus, Note 7 or S7 Edge

force70 said:
But we all knew the snapdragon would be locked tight and see zero development.
Im ditching mine hopefully next week for the exynos if my vendor gets stock
sent from my S8 plus, Note 7 or S7 Edge
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International version comes the 28th ... this is a sweet phone minus my audio issues ... ill be ok w no verizon root

Jayster0966 said:
Nice to see a familiar name over here @force70! Just ordered my phone today and hope to be getting it soon.
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You ordered one J-Dawg??LOL
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s7freak said:
You ordered one J-Dawg??LOL
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GREAT! Another familiar name! It's been a while @s7freak. It's like a family reunion around here.
I see you got yours already! :highfive:

Not sure yet but it'll be coming
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So no work is being done on the Snapdragon 835 then? I got the SM-G955U

opieum said:
So no work is being done on the Snapdragon 835 then? I got the SM-G955U
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Yeah they are working on something...engineering firmware again...its posted in here somewhere.
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opieum said:
So no work is being done on the Snapdragon 835 then? I got the SM-G955U
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Unfortunately not yet... Locked Bootloader! Need the Exynos unlocked model.

There have been other devices that had locked bootloaders and were rooted, Sony Z1S & a few other brands and models if I recall.
I understand an exploit needs to be found and assume one will be eventually. Just curious if anyone will be working on the SD835s
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I know installing custom ROMS will likely be a nonstarter with the locked bootloader. The stock ROM is good enough as a base with some minor debloating, in this case I'm interested in root so I can use titanium backup and other root tools.

opieum said:
There have been other devices that had locked bootloaders and were rooted, Sony Z1S & a few other brands and models if I recall.
I understand an exploit needs to be found and assume one will be eventually. Just curious if anyone will be working on the SD835s
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I know installing custom ROMS will likely be a nonstarter with the locked bootloader. The stock ROM is good enough as a base with some minor debloating, in this case I'm interested in root so I can use titanium backup and other root tools.
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I just posted they are working on the 835 to get it rooted.
And yes other devices with locked BLs have been unlocked, bypassed etc etc but not the later sammy devices.
S7 is a year old now and the BL is still locked.
Exynos is the the only way to go at this point.
sent from my S8 plus, Note 7 or S7 Edge

Sorry missed that, good to know!...But interesting. I was under the impression the G95xU designation meant it was unlocked. I've got one of those on TMo I've got both variants g955u and g950u hence why I was asking.

opieum said:
Sorry missed that, good to know!...But interesting. I was under the impression the G95xU designation meant it was unlocked. I've got one of those on TMo I've got both variants g955u and g950u hence why I was asking.
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Seems this year all the US models are designated "U"..whether bought from samsung or the carriers.
The last few years U meant carrier unlocked which has zero to do with the bootloader
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That sucks that international phone doesn't support Band 30 for at&t LTE.

cline2 said:
That sucks that international phone doesn't support Band 30 for at&t LTE.
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Some say it has it some say it doesnt.
The FCC says it does...who knows lol
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force70 said:
Some say it has it some say it doesnt.
The FCC says it does...who knows lol
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Yeah but need speed faster.

force70 said:
Some say it has it some say it doesnt.
The FCC says it does...who knows lol
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If we could get a definite answer for this, the bands supported, by testing via side by side comparison of two varents near a ATT cell on band 30, then I would perhaps be convinced to go with the international varent. Could an early adopter who has happened to use both with an ATT carrier comment on this?
Otherwise I really enjoy the Snapdragon's support for demestic LTE bands, and FM radio. I travel through either urban zones of full cell coverage, or rural zones with none at all, so I prefer the fact that I can maximize the utility of both my radios in both environments.