Hey folks,
what are the experiences with developing custom roms/kernels for ZTE?
Does ZTE release any helpfull sources, or are they as "closed sourced" as Samsung is?
Currenty OnePlus are releasing all sources they have and developers need, and as a result just 2 weeks after the launch there are already ALL imporant customs roms are available for the OP3. Can we expect any neraly simmilar from ZTE?
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Mika
They are not friendly at all. Some of the Axon series can't even be rooted so yea.
for the moment we're all waiting anxiously with the hope that ZTE releases unlocking bootloader and sources?
Sounds not very promising or motivating to buy the Axon 7. I really don't get it why companies are trying to prevent million of android enthusiast to buy their devices ...
they probably see stuff like sources as intellectual property which could be copied by their competitors or lead to more exploits.
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they probably see stuff like sources as intellectual property which could be copied by their competitors or lead to more exploits.
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Kernelsources fall under GPl though. So if they dont comply with the Licence you could just sue them for it.
I was thinking of things like drivers for proprietary stuff like the speakers, DAC, HDMI etc, anything that they've made themselves or licensed from a third party.
Axon 7 is from specs side way better than 1+3 in my opinion and it costs only €50 more...but...the thing about hard or impossible to root and lack of custom ROMs holds me from buying it.
I am unsure about ZTE to deliver long-term updates...usually....I can only rely on custom ROMs for updates.
At the moment, I still haven't decided which one to get. I am torn between community support (1+3) vs better balanced specs (Axon7).
I agree the ZTE Axon 7 looks really good. I am a bit concerned with its lack of root. Without root no Custom O/S or software will be developed. I have pre ordered the phone but may cancel due to lack of root. I will decide soon what to do.
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An Android smartphone without root possibility and custom ROMs, as long as the manufacturer keeps delivering updates...let say for at least 2 years... you do not have a huge problem.
The problem is...if you do not have root, do not have custom ROMs and the manufacturer does not deliver updates at all....the phone is so good as a piece of junk
Apparently some of the chinese ones are getting google play and other google apps on them, that isn't usually just as easy as installing the apk file so how are they getting these apps on?
Any chinese phone I've bought generally refuses to let you install google apps as they want system access.
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Axon 7 is from specs side way better than 1+3 in my opinion and it costs only €50 more...but...the thing about hard or impossible to root and lack of custom ROMs holds me from buying it.
I am unsure about ZTE to deliver long-term updates...usually....I can only rely on custom ROMs for updates.
At the moment, I still haven't decided which one to get. I am torn between community support (1+3) vs better balanced specs (Axon7).
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I completely agree on this. I'm split between those two and consider a third one which hasn't been released yet the Asus Zenfone 3 deluxe.
I guess we will wait somewhat longer for more information to come out.
@celoxocis
Zenfone 3 deluxe, the variant with Snap 821+6GB RAM+256GB memory is too expensive.
The 820, 4GB RAM and 64GB memory version is interesting too...but...nobody knows when this will come to Europe.
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@celoxocis
Zenfone 3 deluxe, the variant with Snap 821+6GB RAM+256GB memory is too expensive.
The 820, 4GB RAM and 64GB memory version is interesting too...but...nobody knows when this will come to Europe.
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For Europe it will be launched after "IFA 2016" which is 04.-09. September 2016.
The good thing is the older Zenfone Series is already supported by CM.
And i know some CM devs are looking forward to add support for the Zenfone 3 deluxe once out.
I will definitely wait. For me it comes down which one of the three gets the best dev support.
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1+3 is leading (except for their Dash(Vooc) Charger sources. which is why i still hold back)
ZTE Axon 7. Who knows if it ever be unlock-able. The forum post might just have been another PR gag.
Zenfone 3 deluxe. Waiting patiently...
Almost complete pre-order but decided against it due to its uncertain rootability. I still own Oneplus One and love it but want slight upgrade and thought Axon 7 would be the perfect upgrade progression. I will wait and see.
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Almost complete pre-order but decided against it due to its uncertain rootability. I still own Oneplus One and love it but want slight upgrade and thought Axon 7 would be the perfect upgrade progression. I will wait and see.
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I like how you said "slight upgrade"! I love my OPO too, it is as fast as ever and plenty powerful, but the front facing speakers of the Axon 7 are very intriguing and I'm also considering it unless ZTE is awful with pushing out updates and if the bootloader will stay locked with no root. Then the only option is OP3.
Another One owner here looking to "upgrade". The battery on my phone is getting bad. I'm sure a new battery would breath life into this phone but after my wife's new Moto G (125$) camera bested my One's, I knew it was time. Bring on the front face speakers and Daydream support, as long as the bootloader is unlocked! Better have double tap to wake!
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Another One owner here looking to "upgrade". The battery on my phone is getting bad. I'm sure a new battery would breath life into this phone but after my wife's new Moto G (125$) camera bested my One's, I knew it was time. Bring on the front face speakers and Daydream support, as long as the bootloader is unlocked! Better have double tap to wake!
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It has double tap to wake. Very useful.
Word going around is that ZTE said in a community webinar tonight that it's a matter of when NOT if the bootloader is going to be unlocked. Doesn't sound like it's launching with an unlocked bootloader but it will be unlocked "later". Kinda lame.
I can confirm that on the webinar it was stated its a matter of "when" not "if"
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Oh man!! Decisions, decisions!
NewEgg has the 128gb 6P listed at $500 on their ebay for 2 days only (ends tomorrow).
I'm trying to decide if I want to go with guaranteed software updates for the next few years, or some hardware that I've been waiting for, for several years (the good speakers), but not quite the software development the Nexus will receive (from Google and custom ROM bakers).
Ultimately, I'm going to do what I want... Just curious what the masses think?:fingers-crossed:
Axon 7..... I was tempted as well, but the Axon 7 is the only device in years that has checked off all the boxes on my list of things I wanted in a device.
Also, I think this device will have decent Dev support. Even the OnePlus 2 I just sold had decent support and it was a very hated upon device. Besides, with it being a Google Daydream VR capable device; they're going to have to update it to N as soon as possible for that functionality.
I was looking at a CNET video on YouTube and it said that the phone will run the ZTE operating system and it can be changed to run a pure stock Android system.
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I was looking at a CNET video on YouTube and it said that the phone will run the ZTE operating system and it can be changed to run a pure stock Android system.
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That's what the reps are pretty much saying on the ZTE forums. Supposedly their skin is light, and kinda close to stock; but you can also either turn the skin off or run a different build. The last part hasn't been cleared up as to how just yet? It's good to see they're listening though.
Axon 7 all the way!
I have been following the Axon 7 but am worried about it being locked down tight like their previous devices. I haven't read anything about this trend being reversed with the 7. With secureboot enabled with the SD820 if they don't allow us to unlock the bootloader their will be no Dev support as is the case with the US S7. I sold my N6P and miss it to the point where I'm almost ready to buy another. I've decided to wait just a bit to see what ZTE gives us but won't buy it unless it's unlockable.
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I have been following the Axon 7 but am worried about it being locked down tight like their previous devices. I haven't read anything about this trend being reversed with the 7. With secureboot enabled with the SD820 if they don't allow us to unlock the bootloader their will be no Dev support as is the case with the US S7. I sold my N6P and miss it to the point where I'm almost ready to buy another. I've decided to wait just a bit to see what ZTE gives us but won't buy it unless it's unlockable.
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Well, one thing is carriers are involved with the US S7 variants. I'm following it as well to see what happens.
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Oh man!! Decisions, decisions!
NewEgg has the 128gb 6P listed at $500 on their ebay for 2 days only (ends tomorrow).
I'm trying to decide if I want to go with guaranteed software updates for the next few years, or some hardware that I've been waiting for, for several years (the good speakers), but not quite the software development the Nexus will receive (from Google and custom ROM bakers).
Ultimately, I'm going to do what I want... Just curious what the masses think?:fingers-crossed:
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That's a tough one... Android updates Vs better specs and what promises to be really good audio (both from the speakers and headphone jack).
I carry two phones ( work and personal) I have a Nexus 6p 128GB and an LG G5. I think I may replace with G5 with the Axon 7 as I want that superior audio as both the 6P and G5 are inferior to my old Note 4 in that regard.
I guess it depends how important update is to you...
Good luck and Alons-y!
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That's a tough one... Android updates Vs better specs and what promises to be really good audio (both from the speakers and headphone jack).
I carry two phones ( work and personal) I have a Nexus 6p 128GB and an LG G5. I think I may replace with G5 with the Axon 7 as I want that superior audio as both the 6P and G5 are inferior to my old Note 4 in that regard.
I guess it depends how important update is to you...
Good luck and Alons-y!
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l'm holding out for the Axon 7.... Sold my S7 Edge that I traded my 6P for (because I knew I was going to flip it really quick and the S7 would bring more). So I have $600 sitting in my "new phone fund" (otherwise known as my guitar case) and I'm anxiously awaiting.
The Moto Z with the add-on audio module looks cool, but is fairly bulky with the speaker module on it. If I'm going to go through the steps to snap on a module, I'll just grab my bluetooth speaker....So Axon 7 it is.
If it gets rooted and has a strong development following, software updates won't be an issue. I'll keep my fingers crossed for that.
Geronimo!!!! (although 10 is my favorite)
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l'm holding out for the Axon 7.... Sold my S7 Edge that I traded my 6P for (because I knew I was going to flip it really quick and the S7 would bring more). So I have $600 sitting in my "new phone fund" (otherwise known as my guitar case) and I'm anxiously awaiting.
The Moto Z with the add-on audio module looks cool, but is fairly bulky with the speaker module on it. If I'm going to go through the steps to snap on a module, I'll just grab my bluetooth speaker....So Axon 7 it is.
If it gets rooted and has a strong development following, software updates won't be an issue. I'll keep my fingers crossed for that.
Geronimo!!!! (although 10 is my favorite)
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Probably a wise choice.
10th and 11th are definitely the best (and missed).
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10th and 11th are definitely the best (and missed).
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Way off topic here... But I actually really like Capaldi....Especially this last season. His first season had some very good episodes as well, with "Listen" being one of my favorite "Who" episodes ever.
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Way off topic here... But I actually really like Capaldi....Especially this last season. His first season had some very good episodes as well, with "Listen" being one of my favorite "Who" episodes ever.
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lol, that's the most OT thing I've ever read here....
Hey guys, im looking for opinions about leeco and their smartphones, maybe some owners of previous devices? Long story short, i currently own nexus 6p, its a fricking awesome device, but i kinda grew bored of it, and battery life is not that great. I dont want to spend extra money on new toy, but by selling 6p i should get atleast 300euros, and for this money i have few options. Its either le pro 3, mi 5s plus, or 100euros extra for mi note 2. I pretty much know what to expect from xiaomi, but im completely clueless about leeco. Is there any development? I looked around forums of older devices, and they seem pretty dead I dont expect same level of development as nexus, but having few options, like miui or cm would be great, cause im already sure i couldnt stand stock rom lol. Also what about customer support? So any input is welcome, also any recommendations of above devices, thank you and sorry for long ass post lol
Currently, the bootloader of the US version of the Pro3 cannot be unlocked. There is a lot of negative comments about that on the forum. [http://forum.le.com/us/index.php?threads/unlock-bootloader.3682/
There is a positive first impressions post on the LeEco Pro3 XDA site. I'm conflicted - getting my phone tomorrow.
I have Le 1 PRO, to be honest it is a gamble. The devices are good but the support is terrible. If someone is not porting AOSP/CM to these devices they will have a very short life.
Le 1 series suffered some major faulty design problems in term of GPS/Wifi and so on. We moved to 6.0.1 only when series 2 came out.
Probably Le 3 series will receive n7.1.1 only after Le 4 series (if any) will be announced/sold, in the meantime you will have countless of useless update (clearly not on the camera since it will be too good).
I've seen some work on Le 2 series, hopefully there will be even more on Le 3 series.
As of now i'm not 100% regretting my choice (270 euros 1.5 years ago for Le 1 Pro) but it is literally a for-geek phone.
If you just want a top-spec phone to use at a great price the le pro 3 fits the bill.
If you want to tinker, probably any other unlocked phone will work better unless they decide to unlock the bootloader.
I've got no regrets so far for $299 us
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Hey guys, im looking for opinions about leeco and their smartphones, maybe some owners of previous devices? Long story short, i currently own nexus 6p, its a fricking awesome device, but i kinda grew bored of it, and battery life is not that great. I dont want to spend extra money on new toy, but by selling 6p i should get atleast 300euros, and for this money i have few options. Its either le pro 3, mi 5s plus, or 100euros extra for mi note 2. I pretty much know what to expect from xiaomi, but im completely clueless about leeco. Is there any development? I looked around forums of older devices, and they seem pretty dead I dont expect same level of development as nexus, but having few options, like miui or cm would be great, cause im already sure i couldnt stand stock rom lol. Also what about customer support? So any input is welcome, also any recommendations of above devices, thank you and sorry for long ass post lol
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If you get bored, but then also want the option of cm, I'm not sure how getting a new device will help you. You can have CM or miui now. And CM isn't exactly a grand departure from AOSP/CAF. It's relatively barebones android. Most phones these days are almost identical slabs. If you're gonna use the same OS as you had before, all you're really changing is the shape. Also, the Nexus is going to be your best bet for tinkering. Nexus or Pixel.
As for support, from what I understand LeEco isn't great when it comes to that. Whatever fashion you receive your device in, expect it to change VERY little. It also doesn't help that reports are popping up that the north american venture is coming up very short. Makes me believe they'll be pulling up stakes and going back to China. With the Pro3 currently locked, I'd say avoid it. If you want a toy phone to tinker with, the S3 might be a better choice. It's cheaper, already unlockable (or so people are reporting, I don't actually know myself), and if it receives any development, then it should be interesting. If you get it for $150, it isn't too much of a gamble.
If I were in your position, I'd steer clear. Especially if you were in the US on T-Mobile and can qualify for a Pixel half off through their promotion. At least that way you'll get wifi calling and some top-notch cameras. Either that or an Oppo. Since you're in europe, I don't know what the alternatives are. At least the chinese version is unlockable (the x720) but there's still the matter of development. And I think that'll be unlikely since CM development usually comes to US models.
I don't understand why you keep saying the bootloader is locked though, there is a user on this forum that had it unlocked on x727, LeTV also is officially stating on lemall site that the bootloader is unlockable
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I don't understand why you keep saying the bootloader is locked though, there is a user on this forum that had it unlocked on x727, LeTV also is officially stating on lemall site that the bootloader is unlockable
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That option in developer menu does NOTHING. China model can be bootloader unlocked, us model no.
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That option in developer menu does NOTHING. China model can be bootloader unlocked, us model no.
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Did you try "fastboot oem unlock" in bootloader? That option just allow you to unlock via fastboot mode.
Ask directly there to him, im just reporting what i read.
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Did you try "fastboot oem unlock" in bootloader? That option just allow you to unlock via fastboot mode.
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I've seen several folks in the US version discussion thread report that does NOT work, or -go command version either. So far Leeco are being dicks and not allowing it. Maybe an OTA will change that, and they just didn't want it being unlockable right away... No idea yet. I don't really mind the software that much, it's pretty nice, performs well and battery life is excellent expecially standby. But not even having root is quite a deal breaker. I'd return it just on that news but I don't have more money to replace it with anything else since I broke my X Pure that I was going to sell to offset the Pro3 price. Guess I'm stuck waiting for root and roms that so far looks like will never come. Still a great phone though, even signal and GPS are great which were my biggest concerns about it.
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I've seen several folks in the US version discussion thread report that does NOT work, or -go command version either. So far Leeco are being dicks and not allowing it. Maybe an OTA will change that, and they just didn't want it being unlockable right away... No idea yet. I don't really mind the software that much, it's pretty nice, performs well and battery life is excellent expecially standby. But not even having root is quite a deal breaker. I'd return it just on that news but I don't have more money to replace it with anything else since I broke my X Pure that I was going to sell to offset the Pro3 price. Guess I'm stuck waiting for root and roms that so far looks like will never come. Still a great phone though, even signal and GPS are great which were my biggest concerns about it.
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How is the camera? After 6p im quite spoiled lol. I understand that in bad lightning its complete crap, but how about daylight photos?
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How is the camera?
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Pretty crap.
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Pretty crap.
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Yeah, not as good as a 6P for sure. It's like most cheaper cameras... Still great in bright light. Indoors not great. Low light, pretty bad. I've seen worse on more expensive phones though. It's better than my X Pure's camera.
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This phone is great. So far so good. Coming from a GS5
Well like everyone else have said so far, the x727 can't be unlocked.
the x720 is quite another story, im sitting with TWRP, rooted and with xposed along with all the other great stuff.
The phone is outstanding quality, full metal unibody and all that jazz.
The Camera is uhm there? but it's overall not the best performer, you can take some nice shots in daylight but that's about it.
i installed a custom version of EUI to remove the bloatware, and i'm currently rocking the leaked pixel launcher on top, so far so good.
The only other rom for this phone is MIUI, which is having some issues (atleast for me) with 4g LTE, it just locks itself onto 3g and HSPA+
My dream is a CM based rom sometime in the near future.
Okey so after a lot of doubts i finally pulled the trigger. Stumbled upon a deal i couldnt resist. Aliexpress seller offers full coverage of tax and vat, dhl or dpd shipping, and 240£ for 32gb silver, and 260£ for 64gb gold. I bought 32gb one as i dont need lot of memory. Now the waiting game begins lol. Thanks everyone for imput
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Okey so after a lot of doubts i finally pulled the trigger. Stumbled upon a deal i couldnt resist. Aliexpress seller offers full coverage of tax and vat, dhl or dpd shipping, and 240£ for 32gb silver, and 260£ for 64gb gold. I bought 32gb one as i dont need lot of memory. Now the waiting game begins lol. Thanks everyone for imput
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Wow that's a pretty sweet deal. Care to share the link?
androFRUST said:
Wow that's a pretty sweet deal. Care to share the link?
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http://s.aliexpress.com/I3myqEjU
Vat and tax offer applies to europe and russia only i think
Hello.
I'm looking for a new phone, my budget is around 320 USD and therefore OnePlus 2 has really caught my eye. I've found a deal for 300 USD and I'd like to ask a couple questions.
1. The OnePlus 2 sports Snapdragon 810. I haven't heard much about it, but isn't SD 810 infamous for its issues with overheating? Is overheating an issue with OnePlus 2? Can it be completely resolved by flashing a different ROM/Kernel?
2. I plan to have this device for a longer period of time, around 3-4 years. Is OnePlus 2 a viable choice, despite the fact that almost 2 years passed from the release? Will it be able to hold off for that long, in terms of ROM support and general performance/usage?
3. How satisfied are you with your phone? Would you recommend it to me?
Thanks in advance.
Tip #1 : Dont buy it !!!
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Tip #1 : Dont buy it !!!
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Hello.
I'm looking for a new phone, my budget is around 320 USD and therefore OnePlus 2 has really caught my eye. I've found a deal for 300 USD and I'd like to ask a couple questions.
1. The OnePlus 2 sports Snapdragon 810. I haven't heard much about it, but isn't SD 810 infamous for its issues with overheating? Is overheating an issue with OnePlus 2? Can it be completely resolved by flashing a different ROM/Kernel?
2. I plan to have this device for a longer period of time, around 3-4 years. Is OnePlus 2 a viable choice, despite the fact that almost 2 years passed from the release? Will it be able to hold off for that long, in terms of ROM support and general performance/usage?
3. How satisfied are you with your phone? Would you recommend it to me?
Thanks in advance.
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1. Snapdragon 810: daily usage is good (I'm not a gamer at all): Messenger, Fenix (Twitter Client), WhatsApp, Facebook through Chrome Dev: everything is good. Yes, just good. Not awesome.
2. Long period of time ? Hell no. Look at OxygenOS update(s) for example. Well. we still don't have 7.x as OnePlus 3 / 3T already have 7.1.x. ROM support. Maybe custom ones yeah, but I think that's all.
Also, Grarak, which is one of the maintainer of LineageOS for the OnePlus 2, seems to stop build ROMs, as announced here. This might be an issue in future, even if there is some developers on this phone.
3. Satisfied ? Not at all. I bought this phone because I had an invite back in time there were still some, and I though hype would be the same as OnePlus One. But very disappointed with phone.
Just go for 3T, or if you have time, wait for OnePlus 4 | 5 , rumors say OnePlus might announced it soon.
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1. Snapdragon 810: daily usage is good (I'm not a gamer at all): Messenger, Fenix (Twitter Client), WhatsApp, Facebook through Chrome Dev: everything is good. Yes, just good. Not awesome.
2. Long period of time ? Hell no. Look at OxygenOS update(s) for example. Well. we still don't have 7.x as OnePlus 3 / 3T already have 7.1.x. ROM support ? Maybe custom ones yeah, but I think that's all.
Also, Grarak, which is one of the maintainer of LineageOS for the OnePlus 2, seems to stop build ROMs, as announced here. This might be an issue in future, even if there is some developers on this phone.
3. Satisfied ? Not at. I bought this phone because I had an invite back in time there were still some, and I though hype would be the same as OnePlus One. But very disappointed with phone.
Just go for 3T, or if you have time, wait for OnePlus 4 | 5 , rumors say OnePlus might announced it soon.
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Thank you very much for the detailed answer.
I'd like to look back on some questions:
2. Well, I was probably planning to use custom ROMs exclusively, I'll see about that. I didn't expect much from OygenOS to be honest. The thing about Garak seems worrying though.
3. I'd really like to go for the 3T, but I'm restricted by my budget which is around 330 USD. Do you have a better phone to propose?
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Thank you very much for the detailed answer.
I'd like to look back on some questions:
2. Well, I was probably planning to use custom ROMs exclusively, I'll see about that. I didn't expect much from OygenOS to be honest. The thing about Garak seems worrying though.
3. I'd really like to for the 3T, but I'm restricted by my budget which is around 330 USD. Do you have a better phone to propose?
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You could search for the LG G4 for example, which as a Snapdragon 808, 3GB of RAM, Sdcard and QHD Screen, around 325-350$. Be sure, if you buy it, to check for an unlocked one (no locked bootloader for example).
If you search, you could be able to find a OnePlus 3 (just 3, not 3T), under 350$.
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You could search for the LG G4 for example, which as a Snapdragon 808, 3GB of RAM, Sdcard and QHD Screen, around 325-350$. Be sure, if you buy it, to check for an unlocked one (no locked bootloader for example).
If you search, you could be able to find a OnePlus 3 (just 3, not 3T), under 350$.
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While G4 is certainly an interesting choice, I'm hesitant when going for it since I'm worried of all the bootloop issues that were reported to occur. I also think that I could use a little bumped-up specs.
Thank you for reminding me of OnePlus 3. Since there are small differences between 3 and 3T, I'll try and find a deal under 350$. If you have any online shops to propose, please do so.
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While G4 is certainly an interesting choice, I'm hesitant when going for it since I'm worried of all the bootloop issues that were reported to occur. I also think that I could use a little bumped-up specs.
Thank you for reminding me of OnePlus 3. Since there are small differences between 3 and 3T, I'll try and find a deal under 350$. If you have any online shops to propose, please do so.
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You could have a look at Swappa which is a platform where users sell their used mobile. There is "partnership" with XDA, so this site can be trust.
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You could have a look at Swappa which is a platform where users sell their used mobile. There is "partnership" with XDA, so this site can be trust.
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Sadly there are no entries for my market (Europe). However, browsing Ebay, I found a listing claiming they have a new OP 3T 64 GB at $352 "in perfect condition". The seller states: "Bought as Anniversary present. To be honest it's a lovely phone if you like Android But I wanted an iPhone. My wife thought I'd like this instead. Used for 2 hrs around the house and that's all. "
How legit do you think this is?
Oh yess man! I've been using the device for quite awhile now and yes I won't recommend it to u now. It's good but not awesome, just good! Moreover, the software updates are kind of on a standstill now however Custom roms are abundant.
At this point of time, within your budget, I would rather recommend you to go with a device with a sd625! Excellent processor with an exceptional battery management, no heating no matter what you throw at it! Xiaomi Redmi Note 4, Lenovo P2 or the upcoming Moto G5 plus ( supposedly to come with Dual Pixel tech same as in Samsung S7) are a few to mention. Moreover, Xiaomi Mi 5 (comes with SD820) is a crazy good phone to consider if u can get your hands on one! Highly recommended!!
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Oh yess man! I've been using the device for quite awhile now and yes I won't recommend it to u now. It's good but not awesome, just good! Moreover, the software updates are kind of on a standstill now however Custom roms are abundant.
At this point of time, within your budget, I would rather recommend you to go with a device with a sd625! Excellent processor with an exceptional battery management, no heating no matter what you throw at it! Xiaomi Redmi Note 4, Lenovo P2 or the upcoming Moto G5 plus ( supposedly to come with Dual Pixel tech same as in Samsung S7) are a few to mention. Moreover, Xiaomi Mi 5 (comes with SD820) is a crazy good phone to consider if u can get your hands on one! Highly recommended!!
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Thank you for the reply. I can't go with the Mi 5 due to it being incompatible with my network. What do you think of the Lenovo ZUK Z2 Pro? It looks like an absolute beast to me.
Fobos531 said:
Thank you for the reply. I can't go with the Mi 5 due to it being incompatible with my network. What do you think of the Lenovo ZUK Z2 Pro? It looks like an absolute beast to me.
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Ya Z2 pro is a pretty good device! But i don't think that it has much software development! And the Camera is mediocre too. Performance wise, its a beast.
amitgudwill said:
Ya Z2 pro is a pretty good device! But i don't think that it has much software development! And the Camera is mediocre too. Performance wise, its a beast.
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Agreed. I don't use camera that much so it's fine for me. I wish it had more software development than it, but even then, it seems to be extremely good out of the box (software-wise). So yeah, I'm in kind of a dilemma now, cause I need a device that will last 3 years or more. Also I can't go with Redmi Note 4 or Lenovo P2 because they don't have the required bands for my provider.
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Agreed. I don't use camera that much so it's fine for me. I wish it had more software development than it, but even then, it seems to be extremely good out of the box (software-wise). So yeah, I'm in kind of a dilemma now, cause I need a device that will last 3 years or more. Also I can't go with Redmi Note 4 or Lenovo P2 because they don't have the required bands for my provider.
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Then my opinion is that u must wait a week or two and buy yourself a Moto G5+ it will be having the same multipurpose fingerprint sensor (the one Lenovo uses), a class apart camera, much faster updates and vast dev community and this time they are even implementing moto voice feature which was earlier enjoyed only by the moto x users! I am not a moto fan though but this device looks promising!
amitgudwill said:
Then my opinion is that u must wait a week or two and buy yourself a Moto G5+ it will be having the same multipurpose fingerprint sensor (the one Lenovo uses), a class apart camera, much faster updates and vast dev community and this time they are even implementing moto voice feature which was earlier enjoyed only by the moto x users! I am not a moto fan though but this device looks promising!
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Seems reasonable. I might as well wait for G5+ and buy it when it becomes available. Thank you once again.
Take my advice and don't buy it.
So did you go for the OP2?
The G5 looks like a good alternative!
no save your hard earned money and buy a better phone, this is already a 2 year old phone and its not worth buying anymore, otherwise if you find a new one for just $50 bucks go for it otherwise forget this phone even existed.
Hello,
So I got the H870DS version without knowing about LG's policy on bootloader unlocking so I was really disappointed when I learned that I can't unlock my phone.
A friend of mine got the European version and he doesn't care much about unlocking his phone and I was wondering if I could use his phone's id and imei to generate an unlock.bin file and use that on my device, my initial thought was that it wouldn't work because somehow the key should be unique to the device but still I wanted a second opinion on this just to be sure.
qer0si said:
Hello,
So I got the H870DS version without knowing about LG's policy on bootloader unlocking so I was really disappointed when I learned that I can't unlock my phone.
A friend of mine got the European version and he doesn't care much about unlocking his phone and I was wondering if I could use his phone's id and imei to generate an unlock.bin file and use that on my device, my initial thought was that it wouldn't work because somehow the key should be unique to the device but still I wanted a second opinion on this just to be sure.
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I understand that you have gravitated towards Android because it has the customization support, and we are all very happy to welcome you. But it is these kinds of posts that put off the developers. Please read the G6 thread and search for your specific model. If it is locked, it is locked. Sell the phone and buy a Samsung, or a OnePlus; or wait patiently for an unofficial workaround. Have a nice day!
vijaykanth said:
I understand that you have gravitated towards Android because it has the customization support, and we are all very happy to welcome you. But it is these kinds of posts that put off the developers. Please read the G6 thread and search for your specific model. If it is locked, it is locked. Sell the phone and buy a Samsung, or a OnePlus; or wait patiently for an unofficial workaround. Have a nice day!
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I'm sorry for the post but I'm feeling desperate. I had the OnePlus One for 2 years and I loved it for the customization, different roms etc. I really like this device that's why I want to avoid selling and it doesn't look like LG has any intention of offering an unlocked bootloader for my device version
Well better do my homework next time I'm gonna buy a new phone.
qer0si said:
I'm sorry for the post but I'm feeling desperate. I had the OnePlus One for 2 years and I loved it for the customization, different roms etc. I really like this device that's why I want to avoid selling and it doesn't look like LG has any intention of offering an unlocked bootloader for my device version
Well better do my homework next time I'm gonna buy a new phone.
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Man, I feel you. Even I was about to order this literally yesterday. Then I saw that the support LG offers is not just pathetic, but non-existent. Are we supposed to think of their devices as flagships, when we aren't even getting full ownership of the device after paying the full amount upfront? This is the reason its rivals are doing much better, even after LG uses the "latest" tech.
Anyways, I ordered the OnePlus 5, and that will be my first Chinese smartphone. I am very skeptical about the OP5 as well, cause it is hardly a flagship (no expandable memory, no water resistance, no dust resistance, easily overpriced by $50), but what can you do?! The smartphone market is really pathetic since 2015. Consumers are so stupid and jump on the bandwagon like a bunch of sheep. I am coming from a Samsung Galaxy S4, and none of the smartphones have impressed me since 2013, except maybe the S8, which is way too overpriced by at least a $100!
vijaykanth said:
Man, I feel you. Even I was about to order this literally yesterday. Then I saw that the support LG offers is not just pathetic, but non-existent. Are we supposed to think of their devices as flagships, when we aren't even getting full ownership of the device after paying the full amount upfront? This is the reason its rivals are doing much better, even after LG uses the "latest" tech.
Anyways, I ordered the OnePlus 5, and that will be my first Chinese smartphone. I am very skeptical about the OP5 as well, cause it is hardly a flagship (no expandable memory, no water resistance, no dust resistance, easily overpriced by $50), but what can you do?! The smartphone market is really pathetic since 2015. Consumers are so stupid and jump on the bandwagon like a bunch of sheep. I am coming from a Samsung Galaxy S4, and none of the smartphones have impressed me since 2013, except maybe the S8, which is way too overpriced by at least a $100!
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From what I understand they don't offer bootloader support for the asian version because they're afraid that resellers may load bloatware or even spyware on the device before selling it and so you're sure you're getting a safe out of box software experience this way and I guess the majority of buyers won't care about unlocking it thus hurting more "advanced" users.
The OnePlus 5 seems decent although they have indeed overpriced it a bit for what it offers but I've held different OnePlus devices (One, X, 3) and their build quality is nice and the unlocked bootloader will prolong its lifespan by quite a bit through custom roms.
qer0si said:
From what I understand they don't offer bootloader support for the asian version because they're afraid that resellers may load bloatware or even spyware on the device before selling it and so you're sure you're getting a safe out of box software experience this way and I guess the majority of buyers won't care about unlocking it thus hurting more "advanced" users.
The OnePlus 5 seems decent although they have indeed overpriced it a bit for what it offers but I've held different OnePlus devices (One, X, 3) and their build quality is nice and the unlocked bootloader will prolong its lifespan by quite a bit through custom roms.
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Yep, LG and its code of ethics has hurt developers and hardcore users big time. In one way I guess you have to agree to it as well, because it is indeed great to see a firm that cares about security and user information safety (unlike the OnePlus which blatantly takes user info, but can be avoided after installing a custom ROM, which is why we buy Android smartphones )
I am hoping to not think of any other device for another 2-3 years at least. If the new OnePlus that's coming out later this year or early next year is good then I'll definitely exchange the OnePlus 5 for that. Smartphone buying has become hectic!
To the moderator of this thread: You can close this thread!
vijaykanth said:
I understand that you have gravitated towards Android because it has the customization support, and we are all very happy to welcome you. But it is these kinds of posts that put off the developers. Please read the G6 thread and search for your specific model. If it is locked, it is locked. Sell the phone and buy a Samsung, or a OnePlus; or wait patiently for an unofficial workaround. Have a nice day!
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His question was valid and met guidelines so please keep your opinions to yourself if they are not helpful to the initial post. You will be reported next time, the forums here do not support stifling of valid questions and support. Strike one.
qer0si said:
A friend of mine got the European version and he doesn't care much about unlocking his phone and I was wondering if I could use his phone's id and imei to generate an unlock.bin file and use that on my device, my initial thought was that it wouldn't work because somehow the key should be unique to the device but still I wanted a second opinion on this just to be sure.
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Why not just trade phones with your friend?
dwasifar said:
Why not just trade phones with your friend?
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He thinks my model being the Korean one is gonna show problems soon lol, oh and he has the white color which I really don't like because it makes the black line between the body of the phone and the screen noticeable.
qer0si said:
I'm sorry for the post but I'm feeling desperate. I had the OnePlus One for 2 years and I loved it for the customization, different roms etc. I really like this device that's why I want to avoid selling and it doesn't look like LG has any intention of offering an unlocked bootloader for my device version
Well better do my homework next time I'm gonna buy a new phone.
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Sell it and buy the LG G6 US997 from B&H they are all bootloader unlockable its the US version NOT US Cellular and they are cheap as well hope this helps ya link enclosed below
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/used/1322815/lg_g6_us997_32gb_smartphone.html
So, a few sources say that our devices will receive the Android O update very soon and to pass the time, why not share our expected or assumed OTA roll-out dates? I think that we will receive the update by the end of this month. What about you?
Agreed. I think they will probably release a rollback package or something like that with the original firmware to go along with it (7.0).
Here Are The Facts..
Soapy! said:
Sources say that our devices will receive the Android O update very soon?
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https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-oreo-emui-8-pro-9i-7x/
Have Patience...
Don't Root..
They've said Q1, I'll go with February
entirely irrelevant.... it's coming
https://www.phonearena.com/news/Hua...o-Honor-8-Lite-Honor-9i-and-Honor-7X_id101611
Thanks a lot
optionalmgrr.la said:
entirely irrelevant.... it's coming
https://www.phonearena.com/news/Hua...o-Honor-8-Lite-Honor-9i-and-Honor-7X_id101611
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It's ironic how you say this topic is irrelevant when you only reply with, "it's coming" which indicates absolutely nothing. This is a thread for everyone's expected ETA as the official rollout date is still unannounced. On another note, hopefully I won't deal with dense users like I did on the Le 2 forums, shudders.
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It's coming along with face unlock
Hope camera is tweek'd as well very dull
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From everything that I've read and taking Honor's past into consideration I think we may have to wait until March, which makes little to sense to me.
Why isn't Honor putting a little more effort into marketing this device? I've bought a half a dozen so far, primarily for friends that were still using phones from 3-5 years ago. They all love it and of course, coming from older devices, they feel like this device is a flagship!
Only real thing I miss is NFC, but my watch has it. 2.4 GHz is what I use for everything but my video streaming devices. I really could care less it still has a MicroUSB port.
badmark said:
From everything that I've read and taking Honor's past into consideration I think we may have to wait until March, which makes little to sense to me.
Why isn't Honor putting a little more effort into marketing this device? I've bought a half a dozen so far, primarily for friends that were still using phones from 3-5 years ago. They all love it and of course, coming from older devices, they feel like this device is a flagship!
Only real thing I miss is NFC, but my watch has it. 2.4 GHz is what I use for everything but my video streaming devices. I really could care less it still has a MicroUSB port.
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Your Comments Caught My Eye...
You seem to be a very Nice and Thoughtful friend.. To purchased not only 1 of these devices for yourself.. but to gift over $1,200.00 U.S.D. / 985 EURO's to friends to update their devices.. is truly a friend indeed :good:
Since you are obviously a man of means... what brought you to this budget device in the Honor 7X ?
It's certainly not the fastest..
Or.. has the best display...
Or.. the most RAM..
Why not the View 10, Huawei Mate 10 Pro, One Plus 5T, Pixel, S8, Note 8 ???
What brought a man of your means to the Honor 7X.. I'm really curious to know if you don't mind sharing..
As a software developer I own a plethora of devices and usually carry a minimum of 2 devices. Generally I am very conscious of the condition of my devices and despite the fact the majority of them never leave an office environment, they are all plastered in screen protectors and cases, it seems like they become more fragile every year. The S8 has been my secondary to my Pixel XL 2 since I got it, but as soon as I received the Honor 7X I put the S8 in the drawer. The 7X runs naked and I'm not worried about dropping it. It has enough of what I need. I run package Disabler and remove most of EMUI and Huawei's bloat, with Pixel launcher installed, I have a very close to stock Android on a rugged unit that's as tough as a 90s Nokia!