way to use multiple phone calling applications? - Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

so i make international phone calls pretty regularly, to this end i use an app that gives me incredibly cheap calling rates.
however if i used this app as default it would also cost me to make phone calls locally. is there a way through an app or mod to have the regular phone app be the default for local calls and another app be the default for international calls?

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[Q] Texting Question (GVoice)

When you are rejecting a call, is there any way to have Google Voice send the text message? Certain parts of the OS allow you to replace the standard texting app with GVoice. Is there no way to do this?
Alternatively, is there a way to tell the normal 'Messaging' app to use Google Voice?
I don't care too much about texting, but the reject + message feature is pretty neat.
Thanks.
Unfortunately not.
I've been trying since day one.
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Google voice only?

I shut my service off yesterday as I will be in Japan for a few months and the international roaming is crazy! Any options to make it work with Google voice only over Wifi? I tried calling and it says no service available.
Also, I'm in Japan, are there any other options like configuring it to work with Softbank or anything like that? Thanks.
Have you tried to download and use the skype app over wifi? It may cost you a little to call but would be better than the roaming fees.
jmd1981 said:
I shut my service off yesterday as I will be in Japan for a few months and the international roaming is crazy! Any options to make it work with Google voice only over Wifi? I tried calling and it says no service available.
Also, I'm in Japan, are there any other options like configuring it to work with Softbank or anything like that? Thanks.
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Google Voice on Android does not currently support VOIP from the handset to the server. That feature is only available through the Gmail desktop browser page on an operating system that is supported by the Gtalk voice and video chat plugin. Another way to get end-to-end VOIP with Google Voice is using Gizmo5, if you had signed up for that service before Google bought it out. That only lets you do incoming calls though.
Also, I'm in Japan, are there any other options like configuring it to work with Softbank or anything like that? Thanks.
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If you have a temp visa or better yet a coworker or friend there you could probably get month-to-month service there. That would be the best bet, but it's generally one of the more difficult countries for visitors to get a sim card in. The airport might have some rental services, but iirc they rented you the whole phone (by the day no less) and it's fairly expensive compared to regular service.
Also it goes without saying that if you want to use a Softbank sim you will need to subsidy unlock (also known as sim unlock) the phone.
Edit: it is rumored that the WiFi calling feature that T-mo is bringing to the G2 and other Android devices will allow a connection and minutes usage internationally. Personally I think this is unlikely (for a few reasons, some of which are legal/regulatory) but it would be pretty nice. Of course this would seriously short circuit the way GV for Android works. You would not be able to make outbound calls with GV in the caller ID.
If you need an unlock code for that phone. to use a japan sim. Let me know via PM
You could always install skype and set your outgoing caller id to your google voice number. Then sign up for a number at sipgate.com and add your new number to google voice. Once that's activated, download and install Fring or sipdroid and add your sipgate information. Use skype to making outgoing, take incoming calls with fring or sipdroid. Alternatively, if you don't want to pay for unlimited skype-out, you can try one of the many google voice dialer apps out there. They basically initiate calls using the google voice web interface, which you can actually do via your browser if none of the apps work out.
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Or just buy a skype number and unlimited skype out then setup skype caller id and forward your GV calls to your skype #
I'm not sure if any devs will see this here, so I will probably post in the G1 dev forum or the general android forum as well, but I wanted to do a search first and this is the only similar thread I have found. Anyway...
As some of you know, you can now place FREE calls to anywhere in the US or Canada using GMail and the "voice and video chat plugin". You can also receive calls from within GMail if you have a GoogleVoice account and you set it up to forward GoogleVoice calls to "Google Chat" as well as your phone(s).
This is awesome! I can now answer calls from GMail instead of my phone. I wish the desktop GoogleTalk app did that so I wouldn't have to always keep a webbrowser page open to GMail, but that is not what this post is about...
I got to thinking: if GMail can place and receive free phone calls, why can't I do that on my phone (or any device with internet)? I downloaded every available webbrowser for Android and tried to surf to GMail, but none of them even loaded the page (???), much less the plugin.
While searching for any possible solution, I learned that the required "voice and video chat plugin" is available for Linux. This fact makes me almost positive that it is somehow possible for someone to develop an Android app that loads that plugin, logs in to GMail (spoofing a desktop browser), and displays the Pop-out dial pad capable of placing and receiving free calls!
Is anyone up to the challenge? This is huge people! FREE phone where ever there is internet. I hope someone can make this happen.
There is a way of doing this... you ARE talking about calling and using your 3g/4g network, right?
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Um... ok, what is the way of doing it?
I am talking about using the Google "voice and video chat plugin" along with the dialer in GMail to make/receive free calls anywhere with internet (WiFi/3G/4G, without using minutes) just like you can already do if you have a Windows/Mac/Linux webbrowser, but through an Android device.
Don't you have WiFi Calling?
AndroidBoston said:
Don't you have WiFi Calling?
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Do you not realize the WiFi calling app still relies on the TMO network?
rpmccormick said:
Um... ok, what is the way of doing it?
I am talking about using the Google "voice and video chat plugin" along with the dialer in GMail to make/receive free calls anywhere with internet (WiFi/3G/4G, without using minutes) just like you can already do if you have a Windows/Mac/Linux webbrowser, but through an Android device.
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No, there is no equivalent of the gmail chat plugin. You're limited to using a sip client and forwarding your GV to that number
I'm pretty sure you can't even roam in Japan anymore. Unless this phone has the UMTS frequencies for 1900, you wont get anything. Recently, Softbank shut off GSM/2G service.

Do You Use Google Voice?

In reading the forums here for a while now, it seems like hardly anyone uses Google Voice for anything. This surprises me, since I've always used GV and I can't imagine not using it. I mean, it lets you read/write/manage your SMS messages on your computer (ie I don't have to pull out my phone to text people if I'm at my computer), lets you make/receive calls straight to your computer (ie I don't have to pull my phone out necessarily if I want to make/receive a call and I'm at my computer), calls made/received on your computer don't count against your minutes, and if you happen to still have a MyFaves plan (and I know several of you do) you can set GV as one of your Faves and have all calls made/received with your handset free as well. The only problem I've ever had with it is that it sends/receives SMS messages over your data network, so if you're somewhere where the data connection is clogged (like I was when I was at a music festival recently), you can't send/receive texts. Even so, with all these advantages (some of them pretty huge IMO), why does it seem like no one uses it?
So, do you? If not, why not?
I use it and have regularly text/mms blocked.
Use it for texting and voice mail.
Not perfect, many things I would like improved, but definitely worth it for me.
I only use it for voicemail
beren28 said:
I use it and have regularly text/mms blocked.
Use it for texting and voice mail.
Not perfect, many things I would like improved, but definitely worth it for me.
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I'm curious, what would you like to see improved? Personally, I'd like to be able to send mass texts from my phone, and to be able to send/receive MMS. I know you can send "mass" (to like five recipients, which, I mean, I've never needed to send a text to more than five people, so that's worked fine for me) texts through GV on a computer, but I can't get it to work on my phone.
I use it for international calls, international TXTing (no longer avail.), and craigslist or similar type of communication with people I don't want to share my real phone no. with.
I also use it in conjunction with Gizmo5 when I'm overseas. Sometimes I use this method when my minutes approach the limit.
MMS please! It's about time. This is the only reason why I still have to use my actual phone number.
gongonzabarfarbin said:
MMS please! It's about time. This is the only reason why I still have to use my actual phone number.
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Or you could use email. Or you could upload the picture to dropbox and SMS a dropbox link. Or you could share on any of the other numerous photoshare sites. There's a million ways around the MMS issue if you need to send some crucial media message, but I agree that it would be nice to have the functionality regardless.
We need pitcher messages, at least pitcher hosting so other people can just click the link. I use Google Voice but it's not perfect, it's not that fast.. it needs to be faster.
I just use it for the vm to text. That's pretty handy. I don’t have to talk to or even listen to people anymore!
opiomorph said:
I'm curious, what would you like to see improved?
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First I love GV. I have it routed to my home via sip, my cell with the GV app and when I'm traveling with the client built into gmail.
Improvement:
1. MMS would be great. Yes, I could use the cell or gmail but... it would be nice if it were incorporated into GV.
2. The GV organization for messaging (both the app and website) is well, basic. I don't get why all texts from one person can not stay in one convo. Makes it harder to find old text messages.
3. I would like to see more way to initiate conference calls
4. international calls could be cheaper. Yes they are cheaper than skype but that is not cheap... On my phone I use the voxofon app and at home voip with callwithus.
5. petty maybe, but I wish I could adjust the time before VM kicks in.
SykesAT said:
First I love GV. I have it routed to my home via sip, my cell with the GV app and when I'm traveling with the client built into gmail.
Improvement:
1. MMS would be great. Yes, I could use the cell or gmail but... it would be nice if it were incorporated into GV.
2. The GV organization for messaging (both the app and website) is well, basic. I don't get why all texts from one person can not stay in one convo. Makes it harder to find old text messages.
3. I would like to see more way to initiate conference calls
4. international calls could be cheaper. Yes they are cheaper than skype but that is not cheap... On my phone I use the voxofon app and at home voip with callwithus.
5. petty maybe, but I wish I could adjust the time before VM kicks in.
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I would also *love* to have all my texts from a single person organized into per-person threads, and wonder why there's not a simple way to do this.
This is kind of interesting...
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/19/google-voice-now-lets-you-port-your-own-phone-number/
Need MMS and also we REALLY need an alternative GV app.
Maybe one day Go SMS, Chomp or Handcent will support GV. That would be nice.
I love it and use it for my voicemail.
I have a Seattle number that most of my friends know, but upon moving to Arizona, being able to have an AZ local number was a big plus. Now I can have 2 numbers on one cell and not have to update any of my long-term contacts of a number change or any of that nonsense.
I use it, but I don't really love it.
I do not like their voicemail service AT ALL, however I like the convenience of giving people my google voice number, people whom I don't necessarily like
I use it for all my vmails, and for texting. I may even lower my texting package from tmo soon to save a few bucks. I can block people easily, can set custom greetings for different groups of people, and I can even use my bluetooth to make phone calls via my PC bypassing the need for a big voice package.
I use it for voicemail primarily and its the number I give out to businesses and people I don't really care to talk to so I can screen the calls. I also use it more when I don't have my phone on me or im on the computer
Sexy Vibrant featuring Nero V3 w/Voodoo, and FFC installed
I use it all the time. I like how I can screen my calls with it
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I used to use it but I found it redundant and some people didn't appreciate having to keep up with so many phone numbers (GV, Business, Real Vibrant number). It doesn't support MMS so that made it hard to use exclusively.
Plus, I could do without those services running in the background.
It's nice for when you're selling stuff on CraigsList and don't want to give your real number, though.
I do hate Google for making it impossible for us to take our numbers off without giving another real number, or removing Google Voice from our Google Account.
But a quick phone number change took care of that.
I use it for texting some people that i dont want to have my real tmo number.I still have the unlimited texts....i've been thinking of dropping unlimited texting from my plan. I wish I had myfaves so I could have unlimited free calling with it...gotta find a way to get myfaves...hope tmo brings it back.
Its also great for using online,for example, Craigslist etc. Overall I think its great and I can't wait for more innovative features to be added.
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Free Google Voice VoIP calls using Gingerbread's integrated SIP functionality

I've been experimenting with the built-in SIP functionality in Gingerbread. Here's what I have so far:
I have three different Google Voice numbers. My main GV number is linked to the official GV app on my phone, and I use it for most calls.
My other two numbers forward to SipGate accounts. I configured the Gingerbread internet call menu with my SipGate accounts. My use of those lines is specific and limited enough that I enable SIP calling only when I need it.
I use the Google Voice mobile site when I need to originate calls for my secondary numbers. I know some people prefer third-party callback apps, but sometimes those stop working when Google changes their API. Those numbers are mostly incoming anyway, so that's a minor issue.
Because my phone is rooted, I can make VoIP calls on both wifi and cellular data, although quality suffers on 3G.
If anyone is interested in how to set this up, I posted complete configuration instructions on my blog.
Also, if anyone has ideas for a better setup, I'd love to hear them.
I am just now starting voip class at my college and this seems like a fun little experiment to help me learn a bit and see what it can do. Thanks.
Good guide. I could have used this a few months ago. I've tried exactly the same steps on my Shift, even to the point of installing iDialer and Fring on my HTC Touch Pro 2 (same as the Tilt 2). In both cases I was never happy with the performance though (and I couldn't get iDialer to integrate with GV to make it work as a VOIP only WiFi phone). There's always a lag, which throws off my wife whenever we try to use it.
I just tried Talkatone Preview for Android as well, and it's slightly better, but there's still a lag.
Have you looked at grooveip? the app and a voice number is all you need. Roommates cells got turned off so I went with groove and it seems to work great.
Keep up the great work.
I would probably use this if I needed to make international calls.
I get good enough Sprint service here that I'm never out of coverage, but international calls can run that bill up.
Aestivalis said:
Good guide. I could have used this a few months ago. I've tried exactly the same steps on my Shift, even to the point of installing iDialer and Fring on my HTC Touch Pro 2 (same as the Tilt 2). In both cases I was never happy with the performance though (and I couldn't get iDialer to integrate with GV to make it work as a VOIP only WiFi phone). There's always a lag, which throws off my wife whenever we try to use it.
I just tried Talkatone Preview for Android as well, and it's slightly better, but there's still a lag.
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This is the major pitfall of VOIP in general, but I did find a really cool app that made calls after you listened to an ad. I'll try and locate it. You need a computer and mic for it. It's like Skype, but free.
Grooveip is really nice. I was using that to make free calls back to the states while in sout east asia. Easy to get free wireless hotspots over there.
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I use Linphone but it's configured to my home voip provider (Callcentric). It should work also to make free calls though.

Google Voice bug with Galaxy Note.

Hi.
I use my Google Voice # as my primary contact point.
I have noticed that Google Voice does not seem to integrate well with my Note.
Specifically, even though I have settings set to receive Google Voice SMS via messaging app, it does not do so.
I can only receive them via Google Voice app. This is not ideal solution, anyone else have this same problem?
I have assured settings are correct both online and in the app. I had no problems with HTC EVO 3D.
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Let me clarify how google voice works. you can:
a) forward the GV text to your real phone number as a cellular SMS.. it will appear in the messaging app.
b) deliver the GV text via the data network to the GV app as a text.
c) do both
d) do none..check it online
What you cannot do is receive a text (delivered via data network) in the SMS messaging app.
The SGN seems to have dedicated inboxes for everything and the messaging app seems solely for SMS and MMS (which GV texts are not).
rlaw said:
Hi.
I use my Google Voice # as my primary contact point.
I have noticed that Google Voice does not seem to integrate well with my Note.
Specifically, even though I have settings set to receive Google Voice SMS via messaging app, it does not do so.
I can only receive them via Google Voice app. This is not ideal solution, anyone else have this same problem?
I have assured settings are correct both online and in the app. I had no problems with HTC EVO 3D.
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Mystic38 said:
Let me clarify how google voice works. you can:
a) forward the GV text to your real phone number as a cellular SMS.. it will appear in the messaging app.
b) deliver the GV text via the data network to the GV app as a text.
c) do both
d) do none..check it online
What you cannot do is receive a text (delivered via data network) in the SMS messaging app.
The SGN seems to have dedicated inboxes for everything and the messaging app seems solely for SMS and MMS (which GV texts are not).
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I know how Google Voice works. My issue is that I've set the notification settings to receive GV SMS via messaging app (GoSMS being my preferred solution in this case) and I am not receiving any notifications.
As previously stated, I had no issue with my HTC EVO 3D using GV and GoSMS in tandem. Hence my assumption that this is a bug with the Note. For the record, I'm on CheckROM v6.
As also previously stated, I've double-checked that my settings for GV online and in app are correctly set (I also use my GV # for sip voip).
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I never knew it was possible on other Android phones to use the stock messaging app to get GV text's(unless you are having GV transfer them to your real number via the normal text root)
I just use the GV app, I find it just as good as the stock messaging app....if not a little better.
Though, I am 100% google voice with GrooveIP for calls and GV app for text's since I use a iPad Unlimited SIM card.
I see exactly the same as you, but i don't know that i would go so far as to say its a bug..To me it simply looks like the N7000 messaging app is for cellular sms, mms only.
If you, like I have, have set in GV for SMS messages to your GV number to arrive as GV app messages, then they do not arrive in your phone as true SMS.. they arrive as a short formatted message over the data network...
comparing to other phones really does not apply.. my prior phone was a BB and so the integrated inbox was the bomb.
rlaw said:
I know how Google Voice works. My issue is that I've set the notification settings to receive GV SMS via messaging app (GoSMS being my preferred solution in this case) and I am not receiving any notifications.
As previously stated, I had no issue with my HTC EVO 3D using GV and GoSMS in tandem. Hence my assumption that this is a bug with the Note. For the record, I'm on CheckROM v6.
As also previously stated, I've double-checked that my settings for GV online and in app are correctly set (I also use my GV # for sip voip).
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This works fine on my phone.
So, three things:
1. If you send a SMS from GV to your phone's physical number (or an sms from anyone else directly to your phone), does it arrive? If your sms service isn't working. . . then you have other problems.
2. There is a difference between notifications and actually getting the message. Check your sms app for messages. If they are there, then change the settings in your sms app to notify you when they arrive.
3. Check your GV settings online to verify that forward texts to phone is checked on your phone. Do you have multiple phone numbers associated with your GV account? Could it be possible that GV on your phone is confused? I changed sim cards once and had to sign out and sign back in to GV and reconfigure the phone for things to work properly. Have you even tried doing that to make sure it's not some weird configuration issue?
weethomas said:
This works fine on my phone.
So, three things:
1. If you send a SMS from GV to your phone's physical number (or an sms from anyone else directly to your phone), does it arrive? If your sms service isn't working. . . then you have other problems.
2. There is a difference between notifications and actually getting the message. Check your sms app for messages. If they are there, then change the settings in your sms app to notify you when they arrive.
3. Check your GV settings online to verify that forward texts to phone is checked on your phone. Do you have multiple phone numbers associated with your GV account? Could it be possible that GV on your phone is confused? I changed sim cards once and had to sign out and sign back in to GV and reconfigure the phone for things to work properly. Have you even tried doing that to make sure it's not some weird configuration issue?
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1. Carrier SMS works.
2. I do not receive any GV SMS in my SMS app.
3. Ditto.
At this point, the only thing I can think of would be that SMS forwarding does not work with T-Mobile prepaid (voicemail configuration with GV/T-Mobile also does not work specifically with prepaid plans).
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You may have a great understanding of how GV works, however you have not explicitly stated whether, in GV, you have google voice texts forwarded to your phone number..
If you do not have this forwarding, then you are receiving texts via the data network and you will only see them in the GV app.
rlaw said:
1. Carrier SMS works.
2. I do not receive any GV SMS in my SMS app.
3. Ditto.
At this point, the only thing I can think of would be that SMS forwarding does not work with T-Mobile prepaid (voicemail configuration with GV/T-Mobile also does not work specifically with prepaid plans).
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Mystic38 said:
you have not explicitly stated whether you have google voice texts forwarded to your phone number.. for sure if not you will not get the GV texts in the messaging app, only GV app
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Yes. My GV account online is set to forward SMS to my T-Mobile number.
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Did you ever find a solution to this? I'm in the exact same boat. I did discover that when I set up GV to forward calls to my TMo prepaid number, texts are also forwarded properly. When I forward calls to my google chat (which sends calls along to talkatone on my phone, which is the whole reason of GV for me) it does not forward texts over SMS, they are only sent as data to the GV app.
Texts work if I enable forwarding to BOTH numbers, and i can choose to answer calls through the talkatone app, but the standard dialer shows up and gives me a missed call notification, so it's not an ideal set up
Sorry, no solution found.
And T-Mobile hasn't been especially helpful.
I don't know whether the limitation is intentional or unavoidable due to the network (for example, you cannot integrate GV voicemail services with T-Mobile prepaid).
I agree, it's not an ideal set-up. The GV app has too many kinks and it isn't the most intuitive experience for calls (I use sipdroid/exdialer anyway to bypass the app) or texting (I prefer GoSMS).
The only positive is that I know SMS to my T-Mobile # are important and GV notifications I can safely peruse at my leisure. =/
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