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Great article on AA showing the differences between the Nexus 6 and other devices in the phablet category.
To sum it up:
- The Nexus 6 has a great display to body ratio. It's only (slightly) beat by the LG G3 and Huawei Ascend Mate 7.
- The Nexus 6, as you probably know by now, has the top-of-the-line specs. Nothing really compares with it except the Note 4, which has similar specs.
- The Nexus 6 is slightly bigger than the Note 4 (Differences in mm: 5.8 x 4.4 x 1.5) but manages to fit in a display that is .26 inches larger and front facing stereo speakers.
I would probably say that the Nexus 6's biggest competitor is the OnePlus One. It offers high-end specs, not quite as high-end as the Note 4 but the differences are negligible. Granted, the Nexus 6 has a more premium build (in my opinion), OIS and is launching with Android L as opposed to waiting more than three months until the OnePlus One receives the L update. Furthermore, the Nexus 6 is going to be on more carriers, will probably have much better customer service, is easily available (once it's actually released) and hopefully won't be riddled with the bugs.
However, the Nexus 6 is twice as much as the OPO - $350 as opposed to $700 for the same amount of storage. Money talks...
Now the real question: The other flagships that are being compared to the Nexus 6 all offer something additional. For example, the Note 4 has an SPen and the Mate 7 also has a fingerprint sensor. The LG G3 and Note 4 both have removable battery, microsd support and multi-window modes. Are you willing to compromise these extra features to have stock android?
Source: AndroidAuthority
No fingerprint scanner is a bummer. I use corporate email on my Nexus 5 and the compliance software makes me have a lockscreen password which is a PITA. No patterns are allowed. iPhone 6 and 5S users can use the fingerprint scanner to bypass the password.
I'm considering the N6 as an upgrade from my much beloved N5, but there's two things that I need to see from the N6 before making the purchase.
#1- The amoled display. Recent offerings from Motorola have had 'middle of the road' amoled screens when compared to Samsung's recent amoled displays (Comparing the Moto X 2014 to a SGS5 or Note 4). If that big amoled is sub-par, I will pass.
#2- The camera. Again, this is the track record of the Nexus line having a less than favorable camera when compared to competing phones. I'm also not sold on the dual ring led flash right around the sensor (it creates red eye if you are shooting people - seen on the Moto X 2014)
What's weird is that when compared to the Note 4 $100 more out of pocket ($649 for 32gb N6 and $749 for 32gb Note 4 - basing pricing from T-Mobile) really does get you quite a bit more.
(Perhaps) better display (more color accurate/brighter)
Better camera (16mp vs 13mp) and better ff (2.0mp vs 3.7mp) camera - I know, it's not all about the mp, but the Note 4's camera has received a lot of praise for shooting in all lighting conditions
S Pen
MicroSD/removable battery (extends device life)
IR blaster
Fingerprint scanner
The decision isn't as easy as it was with getting the N5. It's not the size, it's the price. I just can't stand Samsung and Touchwiz, and with the N6 getting Wifi Calling for T-Mobile... Ugh. If the display and or the camera turn out to be disappointing perhaps I will sit this round and wait for the first 64 bit nexus phone next year.
Poor Graphics on Nexus 6?
Hi, I recently read a troubling article from appleinsider that claims that Nexus 6 graphics performance is sub-par (and Note 4) compared to Apple iPhone 6 Plus.
Because of the source, I am taking this with a pinch of salt. I want to get a new device as my HTC Sensation XE is more than two years old, but, graphics (OpenGL 3) are an important point for me and I will probably get Nexus 9 + OPO/Xiaomi (which may have better graphics, due to smaller screen) if this is indeed the case. By graphics, I mean gaming, like, Modern Combat 5.
Can anyone elaborate on this?
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Hi, I recently read a troubling article from appleinsider that claims that Nexus 6 graphics performance is sub-par (and Note 4) compared to Apple iPhone 6 Plus.
Because of the source, I am taking this with a pinch of salt. I want to get a new device as my HTC Sensation XE is more than two years old, but, graphics (OpenGL 3) are an important point for me and I will probably get Nexus 9 + OPO/Xiaomi (which may have better graphics, due to smaller screen) if this is indeed the case. By graphics, I mean gaming, like, Modern Combat 5.
Can anyone elaborate on this?
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All appleinsider did there was read a benchmark result
Turns out from the note 4 reviews that it handles games beautifully
italia0101 said:
All appleinsider did there was read a benchmark result
Turns out from the note 4 reviews that it handles games beautifully
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Can you please add any benchmarks (FPS preferably) that corroborate this (I mean 30 fps is beautiful, but 50+ fps is what I would expect from a flagship)?
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Can you please add any benchmarks (FPS preferably) that corroborate this (I mean 30 fps is beautiful, but 50+ fps is what I would expect from a flagship)?
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Well for example gfx benchmark (onscreen) manhatten , pre release benchmark
Nexus 6 :11.6 fps (2560x1440)
Note 4 :11.1 (2560x1440)
Iphone 6+: 18.4 fps (1920 x 1080)
Obviously these benchmarks are much more stressful than actual games... As I said from 3-4 note reviews I've seen they mention the gaming performance to be excellent with every game they threw at it
italia0101 said:
Well for example gfx benchmark (onscreen) manhatten , pre release benchmark
Nexus 6 :11.6 fps (2560x1440)
Note 4 :11.1 (2560x1440)
Iphone 6+: 18.4 fps (1920 x 1080)
Obviously these benchmarks are much more stressful than actual games... As I said from 3-4 note reviews I've seen they mention the gaming performance to be excellent with every game they threw at it
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Thanks! I will wait for a more thorough review when Nexus 6 comes out. I will probably get a Nexus 9 now as I don't have any tablet, and the 192 core kepler is built for graphics!
italia0101 said:
Well for example gfx benchmark (onscreen) manhatten , pre release benchmark
Nexus 6 :11.6 fps (2560x1440)
Note 4 :11.1 (2560x1440)
Iphone 6+: 18.4 fps (1920 x 1080)
Obviously these benchmarks are much more stressful than actual games... As I said from 3-4 note reviews I've seen they mention the gaming performance to be excellent with every game they threw at it
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Note the difference in display resolution. If you've ever done PC benchmarking, you'll know that plays a huge difference....
Luxferro said:
Note the difference in display resolution. If you've ever done PC benchmarking, you'll know that plays a huge difference....
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Without a doubt, that's why I thought I'd better list them, good thing a lot of Android games give us a resolution slider
Far_SighT said:
Hi, I recently read a troubling article from appleinsider that claims that Nexus 6 graphics performance is sub-par (and Note 4) compared to Apple iPhone 6 Plus.
Because of the source, I am taking this with a pinch of salt. I want to get a new device as my HTC Sensation XE is more than two years old, but, graphics (OpenGL 3) are an important point for me and I will probably get Nexus 9 + OPO/Xiaomi (which may have better graphics, due to smaller screen) if this is indeed the case. By graphics, I mean gaming, like, Modern Combat 5.
Can anyone elaborate on this?
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No Android phone can top the iPhone when it comes to gaming. That's the primary reason why I always have an iPhone as well as Android. Playing the same game on my iPhone 6 and my Nexus 5, they always look and run better on the iPhone. Take a benchmark game like MC5- on Android a lot of the effects are turned off and it still runs better on the iPhone. Even the 5s had better gaming/graphics performance than the N5. I'd imagine it'll be the same thing with the N6.
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Far_SighT said:
Hi, I recently read a troubling article from appleinsider that claims that Nexus 6 graphics performance is sub-par (and Note 4) compared to Apple iPhone 6 Plus.
Because of the source, I am taking this with a pinch of salt. I want to get a new device as my HTC Sensation XE is more than two years old, but, graphics (OpenGL 3) are an important point for me and I will probably get Nexus 9 + OPO/Xiaomi (which may have better graphics, due to smaller screen) if this is indeed the case. By graphics, I mean gaming, like, Modern Combat 5.
Can anyone elaborate on this?
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Apple's A7 SOC (iphone 5S) dominated most every benchmark. The A8 (so we are calling. We don't know the actual name) which is in iPhone 6 & 6+ is just the next generation of the same chip. It does very well and again dominates the benchmarks.
That doesn't mean a snapdragon 805 isn't good. It just means (in benchmarks at least) the A8 is better. However, we all know synthetics don't necessarily relate to real world use.
Apple is designing custom ARM chips for their own software in a closed system. Advantage Apple.
http://anandtech.com/show/8613/the-samsung-galaxy-note-4-review
http://anandtech.com/show/8554/the-iphone-6-review
If you aren't reading anandtech reviews, you need to.
Also note that the N6 camera sensor is NOT THE SAME as Moto X 2014 camera.
N6 camera sensor is IMX 214, source: http://www.motorola.com/us/Nexus-6/nexus-6-motorola-us.html
This is the same camera sensor as One Plus One, source: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/...mx214-6-lenses-and-low-light-performance.456/
Moto X 2014 camera sensor is IMX 135, source: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Moto...MX135-sensor-and-more-daytime-samples_id60299
However, the Note 4 is using newer camera sensor IMX 240, source: http://www.sammobile.com/2014/08/21...es-16mp-side-touch-wide-selfie-and-much-more/
So, the Nexus 6 camera should perform better than the Moto X 2014, while it might not be as good as Note 4, from sensor model perspective.
Then the deciding factor would be the camera "software"
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Apple's A7 SOC (iphone 5S) dominated most every benchmark. The A8 (so we are calling. We don't know the actual name) which is in iPhone 6 & 6+ is just the next generation of the same chip. It does very well and again dominates the benchmarks.
That doesn't mean a snapdragon 805 isn't good. It just means (in benchmarks at least) the A8 is better. However, we all know synthetics don't necessarily relate to real world use.
Apple is designing custom ARM chips for their own software in a closed system. Advantage Apple.
http://anandtech.com/show/8613/the-samsung-galaxy-note-4-review
http://anandtech.com/show/8554/the-iphone-6-review
If you aren't reading anandtech reviews, you need to.
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Thanks. It seems N9 is the way to go for media consumption, considering it's GPU performance is the best available (afa i know). Besides, N6 price seems overkill to me. They could have stuck with 1080p. At 6 inches, I doubt anyone has the eyes to see the difference.
1080P 6in a foot away from your face, you may be able to tell. But I'd agree that the resolution is over kill. A silly decision. It's just a waste of performance and battery life to run quadHD.
I have committed to nexus for obvious reasons. There are things I get with the Nexus line I can't get anywhere else. I don't want a 6" phone. But it's the current nexus.
I'll wait for reviews to hit (mainly anandtech) and see if there are any glaring issues.
I love my nexus 5 so much I could use it for another year or until Ara hits. Only complaint is battery size.
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No Android phone can top the iPhone when it comes to gaming. That's the primary reason why I always have an iPhone as well as Android. Playing the same game on my iPhone 6 and my Nexus 5, they always look and run better on the iPhone. Take a benchmark game like MC5- on Android a lot of the effects are turned off and it still runs better on the iPhone. Even the 5s had better gaming/graphics performance than the N5. I'd imagine it'll be the same thing with the N6.
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agroan05 said:
Apple's A7 SOC (iphone 5S) dominated most every benchmark. The A8 (so we are calling. We don't know the actual name) which is in iPhone 6 & 6+ is just the next generation of the same chip. It does very well and again dominates the benchmarks.
That doesn't mean a snapdragon 805 isn't good. It just means (in benchmarks at least) the A8 is better. However, we all know synthetics don't necessarily relate to real world use.
Apple is designing custom ARM chips for their own software in a closed system. Advantage Apple.
http://anandtech.com/show/8613/the-samsung-galaxy-note-4-review
http://anandtech.com/show/8554/the-iphone-6-review
If you aren't reading anandtech reviews, you need to.
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You can't compare GPU benchmarks done at much different resolutions. It has a huge difference on FPS.
To quote one of your links:
Once again, the Galaxy Note 4's GPU performance line up quite closely with what we expect from the Adreno 420. However, due to the higher 1440p resolution the performance improvements from the Adreno 420 are relatively small or none at all unless the application renders at 1080p.
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You can't say their SoC dominates the 805 unless you do an apples to apples comparison using the same resolution. If you want to say the iPhone 6 performs better, than X you can. But you should note differences in resolution.
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I would probably say that the Nexus 6's biggest competitor is the OnePlus One. It offers high-end specs, not quite as high-end as the Note 4 but the differences are negligible. Granted, the Nexus 6 has a more premium build (in my opinion), OIS and is launching with Android L as opposed to waiting more than three months until the OnePlus One receives the L update. Furthermore, the Nexus 6 is going to be on more carriers, will probably have much better customer service, is easily available (once it's actually released) and hopefully won't be riddled with the bugs.]
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I had the OnePlus One and the Moto X 2014, which is what the Nexus 6 design is based on.
The primary reason why I sold both of my OnePlus are:
-Design
-Signal/call quality.
The phone wasn't comfortable to use due to it's design. The signal quality simply wasn't as good. It take a while for me to drive to work and I tend to stream YouTube podcasts over LTE while driving, I didn't get very good LTE signal with the OPO so I had to use 3G most of the time, even then it wasn't as smooth experience as the Moto X 2013 and 2014.
The OnePlus is a great device for the money no doubt, but Motorola design is my favorite at this point, it's wasn't that much smaller than the OPO but it's so much more comfortable to hold and use. The OnePlus have this somewhat "sharp" edges and it wasn't comfortable in the pocket.
The Nexus 6 uses the same Sony sensor as the OPO, while some people didn't think highly of it, I personally got amazing results from it, especially if you know how to tune your shutter speed and ISO level. I love the 4K DCI recording on it too, which unfortunately will not be available on the Nexus 6.
Also you have to deal with yellow screen issue which I got, I had to put the phone under UV light to fix it, but it didn't completely remove it. And if you have issues and need to do an RMA, I heard the experience wasn't very good. Motorola have some complains too, but not the at the same level as OPO.
I like what OnePlus have to offer so I'll look forward to their next phone. But honestly, I already know that most likely it will also be based off whatever the next Oppo flagship phone is, except with corner cuts, and it's probably going to be very big with capacitive buttons, which is not for me. The Nexus 6 is too big for me too, but I'm mainly interested in it to use as a tablet and back up phone, not as my daily driver.
italia0101 said:
Well for example gfx benchmark (onscreen) manhatten , pre release benchmark
Nexus 6 :11.6 fps (2560x1440)
Note 4 :11.1 (2560x1440)
Iphone 6+: 18.4 fps (1920 x 1080)
Obviously these benchmarks are much more stressful than actual games... As I said from 3-4 note reviews I've seen they mention the gaming performance to be excellent with every game they threw at it
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The N4 and N6 are running over 50% of the iPhone at a huge increase in pixels pushed......
They need to show apples and apples. If they all ran at 1080 the N4 and N6 would run circles around the iPhone 6
Luxferro said:
You can't compare GPU benchmarks done at much different resolutions. It has a huge difference on FPS.
To quote one of your links:
You can't say their SoC dominates the 805 unless you do an apples to apples comparison using the same resolution. If you want to say the iPhone 6 performs better, than X you can. But you should note differences in resolution.
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Actually maybe half of those GPU benchmarks are "off screen". Which should remove any resolution handicap.
However, you are right. I discussed the SOC's themselves and then switched to device performance.
But the A8 is a serious chip. It competes with and possibly beats the 805 outright even when resolution is taken out of the equation.
No mention of Droid Turbo/Moto X Play?
This is looking like it will be the spec king of 2014.
Same specs as N6, but smaller screen (5.2), bigger battery (3900mah), and better camera (21mp)
LG G4 is now on hands of a fiew reviewer, here's first benchmarks I've found for now!
(French site, at the end of the article, and no it's not good)
http://www.frandroid.com/marques/lg/281610_prise-en-main-du-lg-g4-a-la-recherche-de-la-difference
Benchmarks doesn't bother me. The G3 didn't do to we'll either, and mine is definitely fast enough and are more or less lag free since the lollipop update. Still love the G3 so I'll think I pass this year. But I definitely like the looks of the G4 and I'm really excited to see how much better the screen is and how well the camera will perform in manual mode [emoji106] [emoji2]
Benchmarks won't show the really benefits. The device is really smooth and can open apps as fast as any other flagship. I mean the camera app can open in 0.6 secs and take a phot at the same time. If you do not care about superficial numbers the device won't disappoint as a daily driver.
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The scores aren't surprising. The G4 will have only 2 A57s compared to the S6, and the GPU is noticeably different from the 810. There's also LDDR3 in the G4 while the S6 uses LDDR4 & a very fast eMMc chip.
In normal usage I imagine most won't notice the core count. Because of the G4's high price I hope someone can compare its speed side by side with a zenfone 2 or even another Snapdragon 615/800/805/etc.
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Currently using LG G2 and bit disappointed when I see poorest battery result from G3 so skip and since than waiting for G4, I am Enthusiast photographer and using Nikon D7100 with costliest Sigma £596 for lens only with F1.8 fo it’s very interesting to see how £750 DSLR + £596 lens compared with G4 or P8 LOL, I know that recent techno is not even nearby DSLR quality, I would surely buy if Camera and battery of G4 perform better than Huawei P8, I don't believe or worry much in benchmarks figure as most of them are not noticeable in real life, As I don't play high graphics intense game, I believe LG must have done through test before choosing 808 and if it for better battery life against figures than I prefer Battery life, I am absolutely pleased with performance, Screen quality, Earphone sound of G2 if it would have been released exact thing in recent time I would still prefer to buy, When I see S6 live particularly in gold/silver colour it seems to me as really overdone and cheap design, it remind me things when in 2010-11 when lot of folks specially girls prefer to put shiny and mirror looking screen protector in from of their iPhone so they do makeup on the go, S6 is less than evolution and glass and reflective things is not a big achievement or breakthrough BTW it’s subjective matter and I know more crowd following iPhone/Samsung trend than LG but I don't want to join unwise and hypnotized crowd, I think design wise P8 is better than S6 but still can't decide which one look better P8 or G4?
There is a benchmark video out. The G3 is right next to the G4 while the G4s score wasn't amazingly high it was still a decent score for a flagship and it was leaps and bounds faster than the poor G3. The link is below. Sad fact, it scores better than my G Flex 2. More than likely because of thermal throttling :/
https://youtu.be/QGMeH5jSLo4
Slaughter59 said:
LG G4 is now on hands of a fiew reviewer, here's first benchmarks I've found for now!
(French site, at the end of the article, and no it's not good)
http://www.frandroid.com/marques/lg/281610_prise-en-main-du-lg-g4-a-la-recherche-de-la-difference
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Not good?
I read "First impressions are good, the Korean manufacturer seems to have made the right choices, abandoning the Snapdragon 810 and developing its own photo sensor."
I don't sweet these at all. I want to use it in my hand and see myself as that is more real than anything.
According with Qualcomm:
Adreno 418 (S808): 20% better than 330
Adreno 420 (S805): 40% better than 330
Adreno 430 (S810): 70-80% better than 330
Overall, The S805 is better than S808 in heavy tasks but I understand the 64bit thing marketing. Bad choice by LG going with S808
Slaughter59 said:
LG G4 is now on hands of a fiew reviewer, here's first benchmarks I've found for now!
(French site, at the end of the article, and no it's not good)
http://www.frandroid.com/marques/lg/281610_prise-en-main-du-lg-g4-a-la-recherche-de-la-difference
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Too me, the benchmarks here look fine. If you look at the T-Rex and Manhattan tests for the onscreen (the tests that matter) the G4 is only 6 and 2 fps behind the S6 (the only smartphone with the same resolution)
jeky82 said:
Too me, the benchmarks here look fine. If you look at the T-Rex and Manhattan tests for the onscreen (the tests that matter) the G4 is only 6 and 2 fps behind the S6 (the only smartphone with the same resolution)
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That 6 and 2 fps may translate into bigger differences in real world gaming performance as GFX benchmark is a unrealistically heavy GPU benchmark.
Btw its still a 18% over the adreno 330 in G3 , so if you were fine with G3's performance then G4's graphic performance at least should not be a concern.
i9100g user said:
Btw its still a 18% over the adreno 330 in G3 , so if you were fine with G3's performance then G4's graphic performance at least should not be a concern.
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You just echoed my mind. If I see the G4 that way [compared to G3] the benchmark stuffs should not be much of a headache/nightmare.
onlinejobwork said:
Currently using LG G2 and bit disappointed when I see poorest battery result from G3 so skip and since than waiting for G4, I am Enthusiast photographer and using Nikon D7100 with costliest Sigma £596 for lens only with F1.8 fo it’s very interesting to see how £750 DSLR + £596 lens compared with G4 or P8 LOL, I know that recent techno is not even nearby DSLR quality, I would surely buy if Camera and battery of G4 perform better than Huawei P8, I don't believe or worry much in benchmarks figure as most of them are not noticeable in real life, As I don't play high graphics intense game, I believe LG must have done through test before choosing 808 and if it for better battery life against figures than I prefer Battery life, I am absolutely pleased with performance, Screen quality, Earphone sound of G2 if it would have been released exact thing in recent time I would still prefer to buy, When I see S6 live particularly in gold/silver colour it seems to me as really overdone and cheap design, it remind me things when in 2010-11 when lot of folks specially girls prefer to put shiny and mirror looking screen protector in from of their iPhone so they do makeup on the go, S6 is less than evolution and glass and reflective things is not a big achievement or breakthrough BTW it’s subjective matter and I know more crowd following iPhone/Samsung trend than LG but I don't want to join unwise and hypnotized crowd, I think design wise P8 is better than S6 but still can't decide which one look better P8 or G4?
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Until we have a true lens zoom phone (kind of physically hard to do), I am not a big fan of using phones for main photos. Nothing cracks me up more though than the media or some posters talking about photography and then actually review the digital zoom on phones, which is literally just digital zooming of the original focal point. No different than taking the picture and later post zooming the pictures.
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That 6 and 2 fps may translate into bigger differences in real world gaming performance as GFX benchmark is a unrealistically heavy GPU benchmark.
Btw its still a 18% over the adreno 330 in G3 , so if you were fine with G3's performance then G4's graphic performance at least should not be a concern.
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The gpu in the 801 choked with 1440p and one of the reasons for the heat, judder and battery life impact. The 808's gpu can handle 1440p and is within the mean of it's threshold of performance, but the 801 was at the very top of it's ceiling for 1440p- hence the issues. Well, that and the gosh awful lcd technology used for the the display on the G3. LG took a semi efficient 1080p design and shrunk it to a very inefficient 1440p on the G3.
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Jonfensu said:
According with Qualcomm:
Adreno 418 (S808): 20% better than 330
Adreno 420 (S805): 40% better than 330
Adreno 430 (S810): 70-80% better than 330
Overall, The S805 is better than S808 in heavy tasks but I understand the 64bit thing marketing. Bad choice by LG going with S808
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What else could they do besides wait about six more months? Apple and Samsung have secured most other chipset fab production and the only other option is the second tier chips that are in the cheaper devices. The road map was to use the 810, but the poor thermals with the 810 resulted in going with the 808 (810 light). The other option was go with the 805, but spec chasing will not allow that. The 808 was a compromise, but LG is hoping the design and camera offsets this for the spec and media hounds.
Qualcomm riding shotgun at the LG press event was very telling of the heat the chipset maker is in right now.
Some more bencmarks, in Swedish but just look at the graphs.
http://www.nordichardware.se/Smartp...och-prestandatester-pa-lgs-laedertelefon.html
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Some more bencmarks, in Swedish but just look at the graphs.
http://www.nordichardware.se/Smartp...och-prestandatester-pa-lgs-laedertelefon.html
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Looks better because the HTC one M9 is missing.
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There is a benchmark video out. The G3 is right next to the G4 while the G4s score wasn't amazingly high it was still a decent score for a flagship and it was leaps and bounds faster than the poor G3. The link is below. Sad fact, it scores better than my G Flex 2. More than likely because of thermal throttling :/
https://youtu.be/QGMeH5jSLo4
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Was it just me or did the G4 burn through the benchmark faster than any of the other phones even though it started last? What's with that? Is it a difference in user (interface) difference? Does this translate to a better performing phone overall that cannot be quantified with a benchmark?
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I noticed that and was wondering the same thing tbh
Any significant reason why it finished the test faster? I'm hoping this device will open apps without any lag. That's the main thing I hate. If I open an app I want it to be fast/instant, which is what I'm hoping an optimized android like this will do.
Side question. If I disable two of the A57 cores in an 810 would that solve thermal issues? Wondering if it's worth my time to do
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Any significant reason why it finished the test faster? I'm hoping this device will open apps without any lag. That's the main thing I hate. If I open an app I want it to be fast/instant, which is what I'm hoping an optimized android like this will do.
Side question. If I disable two of the A57 cores in an 810 would that solve thermal issues? Wondering if it's worth my time to do
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In theory it should do.... I suppose there is a kernel in the m9 thread for disabling the cores....
Thanks! . I'll look into it. I have a G Flex 2 though v.v
Meizu 5 Pro has best processor of Android (Exynos 7420), sd card, nice AMOLED screen with 1080P, great battery (4th on battery life tests this year), and great price also (450 Euros).
But is Meizu....
¿Do you think is a good buy?
Or would be better a Huawei 6P with
Google support for two years and stereo speakers
Better camera and screen
but
Worse battery and processor
No sd
More expensive (200 euros more)
¿Does Meizu give software support with latest Android? ¿Which one you prefer? (you can put other smarthphones on the equation also)
I want to answer your question by comparing both phones in each category.
Design:
I started with design part because, for me it's very important part. I like meizu pro 5 design much more than 6p not saying 6p is not good but, 2.5D glass with looking similar to Iphone in front is not a bad thing in meizu and better than 6p here. I prefer Fingerprint as a home button on meizu at the front much more than in 6p at the back. ( Not to mention how innovative home button of meizu will change the way of using this phone when you getting used to it and you cannot compare it with any other android phone). Also design of meizu at the back is also more beautiful in my opinion as it's a little similar to htc one series. Also 10g less weight in meizu should be a little more suitable in hand.
Camera:
About camera in meizu it does pretty decent job in good light maybe even better than 6p specially better in detail comparison but, in low light you should either use manual mode or accept quality of auto mod which is not bad but, differently 6p is better but, not much better.
Selfie with front camera is definitely better (more detail) in 6p but, for internet both do good job here.
Processor:
The main problem in 6p is qualcomm 810 processor which is a big no for me specially compare to Exynos 7420 which is arguably the best in the market for now (even compare to karin 950) and you will never feel a hot phone in your hand or lag due to hot temperature of cpu and much more energy efficient than Q 810. (Not fan of Antutu benchmarks but, recently Meizu take the crown from Huawei karin 950 chipset in Huawei Mate 8!)
Softwere:
On the other hand meizu apparently is new to world market and cannot support their phone like google but, in future with custom roms it will be okay I think (do not expect near future!) Meizu does not come with unlock bootloader and apparently there is no way to unlock it and it may take so long to either someone manage to unlock it (very difficult + lack off good developers due to less popularity of meizu and the phone itself) or company give us a way to do it so, do not except support of developers or company like 6p. Meizu will definitely upgrade meizu pro 5 to marshmallow but, time is unknown.
Also if you really like pure android experience which I don't! heavily skin of Flyme OS on top of android in meizu may become a big problem for you. Lack of app drawer or design of home screen or even default apps are not a big deal as you can get a good launchers now a day specially with htc sense launcher and apps but, other part like setting menu and notification drawer and etc will be always the flyme one!
Screen
Comparing the screen, there should not be much differences as both phones using very similar amoled technology and panel. Yes 2k vs full hd but, 2k display of 6p is not as good as samsung new flagships like gs6 or note 5. Brightness of both phones are almost similar. I don't think you will notice the differences here in display part in daily usage because, differences of 2k displays are not very recognizable in human eyes in phones bellow 7" screens. But, if it does for you it's just a little more sharper but, not better in contrast, color and etc.
In 6p you will get gorilla glass 4 which is better when you drop the phone and can manage much more pressure here but, not as good as gorilla glass 3 (meizu pro 5) in scratch resistance part. If you use screen protector no problem here for both phones.
Audio:
Yes 6p has dual speaker in front which is more suitable when watching something or listening to musics with speakers but, meizu on the other hand support Hi-Fi audio so, provide much better quality sound specially when you plug a headphone which 6p was unfortunately poor here.
Hardware/Connectivity/Network/Battery:
Lack of memory support is again a big downside of 6p compare to meizu plus 2 sim in meizu vs 1 in 6p (in meizu 2 sim if you don't use sd card) .
For connectivity both doing great and not very different here. You have more 4g bands support in 6p but, if you don't live in USA you will not loose here. Meizu definitely is much better in battery part as you know so, no more words here. Also meizu charge the battery a little faster than 6p specially if you charge 6p with retail charger in it's package which the plug is weaker than meizu fast charger plug. (No need to buy faster plug in meizu).
Okay I don't know if I left anything else and hope it helps you to choose the best option but, personally I will choose meizu here as you mention the price of 6p I don't think it wrote 200 euro more just for a little better camera, speaker and screen VS it's downs. But, if you cannot live without latest version of android and faster support of google or with Flyme OS of meizu better to go for 6p. ( The only real downside of meizu compare to 6p currently before unlocking the bootloader of pro 5)
DanielGatti said:
Meizu 5 Pro has best processor of Android (Exynos 7420), sd card, nice AMOLED screen with 1080P, great battery (4th on battery life tests this year), and great price also (450 Euros).
But is Meizu....
¿Do you think is a good buy?
Or would be better a Huawei 6P with
Google support for two years and stereo speakers
Better camera and screen
but
Worse battery and processor
No sd
More expensive (200 euros more)
¿Does Meizu give software support with latest Android? ¿Which one you prefer? (you can put other smarthphones on the equation also)
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If you look at the prices, i will go for Letv Lemax, the most powerful android phone, that will be out soon and will cost about 530 USD with new snapdragon 820 and with antutu benchmark about 120 000. It have 64/128GB ROM, 4GB ram, QHD dipley, 21 MPX camera, USB 3.0 type C, atc.
Kubas_inko_CZ said:
If you look at the prices, i will go for Letv Lemax, the most powerful android phone, that will be out soon and will cost about 530 USD with new snapdragon 820 and with antutu benchmark about 120 000. It have 64/128GB ROM, 4GB ram, QHD dipley, 21 MPX camera, USB 3.0 type C, atc.
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6.33-inch display! wow huge for a phone!
Plus 2 MP front camera is not good for selfie + not amoled screen + 3400mAh battery definitely is not good in 2k IPS LCD display and you should wait at least 3 more months if not more for outside of china; And 530 usd price (price of 32gb with no expandable storage) is unconfirmed and if it cost 530$ it will be in china not outside so, definitely expect 600$+
The only upside is the cpu which we don't know how well it's until it comes out plus OIS in camera. Qualcome did awful job in 810
I've used both and the camera on the Meizu is far better than the 6P.
Hello all,
which of these two would you suggest?
I prefer bigger screen, but since it's only a 0.3 inch difference that's not a big deciding factor.
the most important factor for me is durability, both in terms of software (higher chance for future android updates) and hardware (build quality).
I know the SoC on honor 8 is better, but I don't play games, is the SoC on Nova 2 plus enough for web surfing, youtube, facebook, etc. ?
also battery life is very important.
(don't suggest honor 8 pro, because it's much more expensive in my country. these two are the same price)
please help me decide, i am dying here :crying: :crying:
nova 2 + ::
Metal body ,best cameras f 1.8 ( pictures will be awesome),battery is good backup with 3340 mAh,new Soc have to see wheather it performs well.
Honor 8::
Premium feel , great development(custom oreo is under-desk),decent battery life.good performance,cheap.also we got 2 years policy software update.
i prefer honor 8 over nova 2 +.
choose wisely
If you want battery, then go with Nova 2 plus.
All I can say now is, do a list with the things you want in a phone then, see which fots your needs better
All the best
I think u should go for the Honor 8 rather than the Nova 2 Plus. Obviously it has a greater chance of getting future software updates but considering how much more expensive it is than the Honor 8 it doesn't seem to be worth the money.
It has a Kirin 6xx series processor instead of the 9xx series processor. The 6xx series is a mid ranger processor so the performance will never live up to the Honor 8. It only has A53 cores which are low power cores. Whereas the Honor 8 has both A53 and A72 which means performance will be a lot better. Even in the graphics front the Honor 8 easily outclasses it with a 4 core GPU instead of a 2 core GPU. U might see battery gains thought because of the SOC only running off of A53 cores.
About the camera it won't be a huge upgrade from the Honor 8. It has a selfie camera with 20MP which will definitely be better but in terms of rear cameras it might perform only a little better in low light because of it's f1.8 aperture.
Considering how the processor and GPU is a downgrade and how the camera is only marginally better I think I would go for the Honor 8.
But then again it depends on what u want better performance or better battery life.
I've also attached a full spec comparison below.
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs
ayush rao said:
I think u should go for the Honor 8 rather than the Nova 2 Plus. Obviously it has a greater chance of getting future software updates but considering how much more expensive it is than the Honor 8 it doesn't seem to be worth the money.
It has a Kirin 6xx series processor instead of the 9xx series processor. The 6xx series is a mid ranger processor so the performance will never live up to the Honor 8. It only has A53 cores which are low power cores. Whereas the Honor 8 has both A53 and A72 which means performance will be a lot better. Even in the graphics front the Honor 8 easily outclasses it with a 4 core GPU instead of a 2 core GPU. U might see battery gains thought because of the SOC only running off of A53 cores.
About the camera it won't be a huge upgrade from the Honor 8. It has a selfie camera with 20MP which will definitely be better but in terms of rear cameras it might perform only a little better in low light because of it's f1.8 aperture.
Considering how the processor and GPU is a downgrade and how the camera is only marginally better I think I would go for the Honor 8.
But then again it depends on what u want better performance or better battery life.
I've also attached a full spec comparison below.
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Good sorting bro .
We have lot of development too , i think this is the best kirin based developed phone(honor 8).
May nova 2 + is huawei , carefully select one.
mahyares said:
Hello all,
which of these two would you suggest?
I prefer bigger screen, but since it's only a 0.3 inch difference that's not a big deciding factor.
the most important factor for me is durability, both in terms of software (higher chance for future android updates) and hardware (build quality).
I know the SoC on honor 8 is better, but I don't play games, is the SoC on Nova 2 plus enough for web surfing, youtube, facebook, etc. ?
also battery life is very important.
(don't suggest honor 8 pro, because it's much more expensive in my country. these two are the same price)
please help me decide, i am dying here :crying: :crying:
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Go for HONOR 8 . you will definitely loved it.
gopinaidu77 said:
Go for HONOR 8 . you will definitely loved it.
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And he can also enjoy your coolest ROMs.
venugopalu007 said:
And he can also enjoy your coolest ROMs.
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Honor 8 is definitely sexy design wise it looks awesome in blue color.
shashank1320 said:
Honor 8 is definitely sexy design wise it looks awesome in blue color.
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Ikr. Till date I regret getting the white Honor 8. I should have gone for the blue!
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I'm pretty satisfied with the midnight black :good:
I too. I feel it better over blue version.
No , sapphire blue is the beat over all.:angel:
Hello, I am really in doubt on which one to buy. My real interest is about the camera : I haven't found a single comparison between the Samsung and the Sony cameras of the two devices. Do the photos of the pro version really justify the 100+$ of difference and the missing b20 band? Right now I have a redm note 3 Pro and it's perfect for my everyday needs, so a super SoC or a lot of ram would probably be wasted as I don't play at all with my phone. Any advice? Thanks!
paraponzi said:
Hello, I am really in doubt on which one to buy. My real interest is about the camera : I haven't found a single comparison between the Samsung and the Sony cameras of the two devices. Do the photos of the pro version really justify the 100+$ of difference and the missing b20 band? Right now I have a redm note 3 Pro and it's perfect for my everyday needs, so a super SoC or a lot of ram would probably be wasted as I don't play at all with my phone. Any advice? Thanks!
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I'm also curious. I watched hundereds of comparisons and from what i understood the sony sensor offers better dynamic range and sharpness. Depth of field (background blur) is same due to same sensor size.
By not a higher margin btw.
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I'm also curious. I watched hundereds of comparisons and from what i understood the sony sensor offers better dynamic range and sharpness. Depth of field (background blur) is same due to same sensor size.
By not a higher margin btw.
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Do you have link??? I would like to see results. And also Gcam results, if it is not only in app.