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Second HD2 battery drain problem

hi everyone,
i have HD2 for 3 years (his battery drain in standby is 5-10 mA) and recently i bought second one, and I'm having problem with his battery drain in standby it never goes under 40mA (with airplane on is the same thing). i did task 29, put the same radio (2.15.50.14), same clk and same rom (NexusHD2-ICS-4.0.4-CM9-HWA V2.7), I try juice defender and it is always above 40mA. On cpu spy I see that phone is in deep sleep 90% of time (similar like my first HD2). I try couple difrent roms and it never goes under 40mA in standby. i swap battery an it didnt change anything. is there anything that i could try or is it that some HD2 just cant get normal standby battery drain? what should I do, any advice will bi appreciated.
thx in advance

Seems like you've tried a fair amount, the only thing I can think of is that the hardware of the new HD2 is somehow faulty. Is the same issue present with all ROMs?

Nigeldg said:
Seems like you've tried a fair amount, the only thing I can think of is that the hardware of the new HD2 is somehow faulty. Is the same issue present with all ROMs?
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yes, with every (four) ROM standby battery drain is above 40 mA, I could try put back win 6.5 but that isn't why I bought this phone

A long shot, but perhaps a dodgy battery pin? Or maybe a dirty connection plate on the battery?
Have you switched the batteries to confirm its the phone not the battery?

samsamuel said:
A long shot, but perhaps a dodgy battery pin? Or maybe a dirty connection plate on the battery?
Have you switched the batteries to confirm its the phone not the battery?
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yes I switch battery and it is the same, still big battery drain on second HD2 and normal on first. battery pins are clear an they looks to be good.

update,
first I put back win mobile 6.5 and battery would drain from 100% to 0% in 30 hours in standby , it is little bit better than android because on android battery last around 16 hours but still it is short standby time. After that I switch just motherboard from bad hd2 to good one and battery drain was bad where the second motherboard was installed, so it is something with motherboard or cpu or gpu and it is hardware problem. Maybe stronger battery could help bit, don't know what to do next

stipa22 said:
update,
first I put back win mobile 6.5 and battery would drain from 100% to 0% in 30 hours in standby , it is little bit better than android because on android battery last around 16 hours but still it is short standby time. After that I switch just motherboard from bad hd2 to good one and battery drain was bad where the second motherboard was installed, so it is something with motherboard or cpu or gpu and it is hardware problem. Maybe stronger battery could help bit, don't know what to do next
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i reckon that 16hrs when its on android is good for a hd2 i have a hd2 with extended andina battery in i JUST get a full days use (ie 8am 2 10pm) with normal use thru out the day no mater what rom i have try'd and tbh ive try'd a lot and there on par with each other but if you have all the stuf on ,gps Bluetooth then i get about 6 hrs from it
as i have said b4 this phone was never ment to run android hence why the battery is better in winmo

I agree with you it that it isn't made for android, but there is to big deference between two hd2 that i have, anyway can you send me link of extended battery and what capacity is it?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HTC-HD2-T...808370?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3cc10bb7b2
i dont know ware you in the world but you can search worldwide id wait if you cant get one and see if one pops up ,also these gold hd2 batterys you see on there are crap ive try'd one there no better than the htc org battery the andida has a good name but you get what you pay for
have you tr'd a bigger partion on it you may have bad blocks or could be or have been overheated in the past (processor) thats also common i use the nexus 4.0.4 rom and i find it ok

to be honest i don't know, i got it last week for low price as used phone whit win mobile on. i did tray bigger partition it didnt help. but i think it might be damaged because last night I turned it off when it was on 20% battery (to save battery) and this morning I couldn't turn it on, battery was dead, so i think it has some hardware malfunction. i will try to find bigger battery (double size in capacity and in size), also don't believe in gold battery , not for that price, thanks for replay

Are these battery numbers normal nowadays? Need opinion/comparison with other users

Help me out here, I think my G2 which used to be a battery champ is now absolutely awful. I don't really know if it's the phone going wrong or my different usage and the way apps might have evolved.
I think the phone is also heating up way more than it used to do. In fact, I never used to notice the phone getting warm at all and never knew what people with SD810 phones were talking about. If I happen to run a game like Boom Beach or Fallout Shelter for 5 minutes, not only the battery suffers a huge drop, the phone gets almost uncomfortably hot (*). These games can kill the battery in 1:30 hours of SOT which I think isn't probably normal.
The numbers I now have to show are of the phone fully charged last night before going to bed, turning the phone off and then turning it on to clean running ups, etc and left idle while sleeping.
Went to bed with a full battery at around 4:30 AM and it's now 15:46 and battery is down to 64%. Turned the screen at 13:00 to see notifications and browse through news, made a single phone call that must have lasted less than 10 minutes. Pictures, although I think they won't help much except for the SOT:
I bought this phone used and I think it was refurbished. Came from Spain (I'm in Portugal) and happens to be an AT&T version. Screen was always a bit dark and a panel that I believe has been replaced. I think the screen is also going, sometimes it won't respond to touches on the far right edge.
I have it running on the official Lollipop firmware that I manually flashed (no OTA here) but I've tried different ROMs to see if they make any difference (Cloudy 2.2 and 3.3., CM13 and Blisspop Marshmallow). They don't, battery behavior is the same, phone heats up.
I need to know if this is normal for you guys still using the phone (software evolves and maybe things are more demanding on this old phone) or if something is wrong with mine. If it is, I need to think about sending it for repair (probably not worth it) or get a new one.
Not the best of times for me to be spending money on stuff like this but I'm really starting not to trust this phone, carrying the charger with me all the time and have a nasty suspetion screen might die for good one of these days.
Any feedback much appreciated!!
(*) Gets hot mainly on the top back, near the camera lens. Sometimes screen gets also hot but I think it might be due to heat transfer from the back.

I would replace the battery. Li-on batteries typically don't last for more than two to three years. Useful life span depends on how deep the average usage cycle is. I typically try to keep them from going below 40%. An old battery that no longer holds a good charge can cause similar problems. Most rechargeable batteries, including lead-acid automotive batteries in general, suffer from deep cycle charging.
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SofaSpud said:
I would replace the battery. Li-on batteries typically don't last for more than two to three years. Useful life span depends on how deep the average usage cycle is. I typically try to keep them from going below 40%. An old battery that no longer holds a good charge can cause similar problems. Most rechargeable batteries, including lead-acid automotive batteries in general, suffer from deep cycle charging.
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Yeh, I know...
I tested it a bit more and at least now I know it is definitely draining way faster than it ever did and I don't see anything that is especially killing the battery (kept off games that I don't even play so much anyway). Oh well, time for a new one I guess. I have been postponing buying one until all these new 2016 main phones came out and they are all pretty much out already.

After running certain apps, or sometimes after connecting to USB in the car, the G2 will go into an overheating condition, with the battery charge rapidly falling. I just reboot it to clear it, and it's back to normal.

SofaSpud said:
After running certain apps, or sometimes after connecting to USB in the car, the G2 will go into an overheating condition, with the battery charge rapidly falling. I just reboot it to clear it, and it's back to normal.
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Tried that, even made two more factory re-sets. No good, same results... poor thing is going, I'm already convinced of that. It's draining about 1% per minute with screen on, regardless of what I'm doing. About 12% drain with it just sitting on my night table for 6 hours while I was sleeping.
Trying to find a replacement now which is driving me insane.

Kutusov said:
Tried that, even made two more factory re-sets. No good, same results... poor thing is going, I'm already convinced of that. It's draining about 1% per minute with screen on, regardless of what I'm doing. About 12% drain with it just sitting on my night table for 6 hours while I was sleeping.
Trying to find a replacement now which is driving me insane.
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Well, replacement batteries are a lot cheaper than phones. Why not replace the battery, and squeeze a little more life out of it? Would also serve as a backup phone after you do get a replacement.
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SofaSpud said:
Well, replacement batteries are a lot cheaper than phones. Why not replace the battery, and squeeze a little more life out of it? Would also serve as a backup phone after you do get a replacement.
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I'm pretty sure battery isn't the only thing going bad, screen sometimes doesn't respond or respond weird. Mine is already a refurbished unit that I bought because it was the best, cheapest and quicker to get phone after drowning the one I had before. It's not factory refurnished though, some guy in a shed did it. Worked very well until now though but I prefer just to get something that is new instead of paying for the repair of one thing and having another breaking the week after that.
It's going to be either another G2 (found one that seems to be an unused unit but seller hasn't got back to me yet and it would cost pretty much the same or less than a battery/screen replacement) or I'll just get some other recent flagshipy phone that will allow me not to think about phones for at least the next 3 years. Not really sure what that would be but hey..

Odd battery metering issue?

This is curious. It's been this way for about a day or so. No actual battery life issues that I can tell. No heat or performance issues. Battery calibration?
T-mobile rooted and my only mod is AdAway.
Other than this issue, all is normal.
Thoughts?

Vexamus said:
This is curious. It's been this way for about a day or so. No actual battery life issues that I can tell. No heat or performance issues. Battery calibration?
T-mobile rooted and my only mod is AdAway.
Other than this issue, all is normal.
Thoughts?
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Someone else reported something like this in another topic. I can't remember what type of V20 they had. My thought was that the battery was bad.
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spexwood said:
Someone else reported something like this in another topic. I can't remember what type of V20 they had. My thought was that the battery was bad.
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I'm almost 100% certain that it's a calibration issue. 100% software. There were similar issues in a Samsung 6.0.1 ROM as well. Bad battery would be never reporting as "FULL" to the OS. Fortunately, even if it's a bad battery, thank jebus for replaceable battery!
One of the things I'm trying was to pull the battery, hold the power button down to discharge any capacitors in the charging or power circuits and then replaced the battery. Now it shows 89% and charging as well as "collecting battery info... please wait.". I'll let you know if it breaks 94%. I think the calibration was off after going a full day of constant usage but plugged in (drove 10 hours while using Waze).

Definitely a calibration issue. The above method had the predicted effect. Fully charged at 100% again. Spread the word. FYI, I held the power button for a good 30 seconds with no battery in the phone and obviously unplugged.
Peace!

Vexamus said:
I'm almost 100% certain that it's a calibration issue. 100% software. There were similar issues in a Samsung 6.0.1 ROM as well. Bad battery would be never reporting as "FULL" to the OS. Fortunately, even if it's a bad battery, thank jebus for replaceable battery!
One of the things I'm trying was to pull the battery, hold the power button down to discharge any capacitors in the charging or power circuits and then replaced the battery. Now it shows 89% and charging as well as "collecting battery info... please wait.". I'll let you know if it breaks 94%. I think the calibration was off after going a full day of constant usage but plugged in (drove 10 hours while using Waze).
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Well, you see, at first I thought it was a bad battery, but last night, my battery began acting funny. It was at something like 40% and then I did 1 reboot and then battery was at 25%. Then I had to reboot again, and battery was suddenly at 18% and stayed that way for a long time. I decided to try the calibration thing and it may have solved some of my battery issues (I did a few other things too, so not sure exactly what helped). I was always told that battery calibration was no longer necessary. Something about the way that Android reads the voltage of the phone rather than the capacity now... Or something... I forget the technical mumbo jumbo. Anyways, that's one reason I always had been telling people that calibration is just a placebo and that their battery may just be bad. Now I'm not too sure what to think!
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Battery issues, confused.

6P has been shutting down early for a while now, usually like 10% or less which never really bothered me. Battery life seemed decent, but I never really tracked it.
Last week it started going off at 15-30% at times. But it can be random. Might go below 10% one time, next shuts off at 30%. This was on a prior version of Pure Nexus. So I tried updating to the latest build. First charge it shut down at 40%. Same crap tho, random shut off times. Today it shut down at 48%. By shut down, I mean it just suddenly gives the low battery warning, reports 0% and turns off. Many times I can restart the phone, and it will say like 1-3%, and let me use it for a while before turning off again. This most recent one at the 48% shutdown, I restarted it, showed 1%, used it for a while before it turned off again. Restarted, now shows 18%.
Wtf? Is this just a charge level reporting issue? Tried battery repair/calibration apps/techniques with no success. Nothing looks bad with regards to apps/services draining the battery. I tried accubattery and says I'm at 70% health. Don't even get 2 hours of SOT. Have a replacement battery in the mail. Think this will solve the issues?

It's known issue with some factory battery's for some reason the phone is thinking the battery is low and shutting down even though it's reporting let's say 50%. I didn't have this issue until I bought a cheap replacement would shut down at random percentages especially when opening something power hungry like camera. The only thing you can do is get a replacement and change or send it in to get changed. If you replace it yourself I suggest testing the battery before you put the phone back together. I think the 6p is a great phone and worth it to replace the battery. That just my opinion best of luck. ?

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Wtf? I tried accubattery and says I'm at 70% health. Don't even get 2 hours of SOT. Have a replacement battery in the mail. Think this will solve the issues?
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@ 70% your battery has been toast for quite a while. This degradation doesn't happen overnight. If you did your research and purchased one of the "good" replacement batteries from a known good vendor then, yes it will likely completely solve your problem. If you just bought a random battery from Ebay or BFE, then you may have another dud on your hands. Suggest testing the new battery with Accubattery before sealing it back up. Best of luck.

Exodusche said:
It's known issue with some factory battery's for some reason the phone is thinking the battery is low and shutting down even though it's reporting let's say 50%. I didn't have this issue until I bought a cheap replacement would shut down at random percentages especially when opening something power hungry like camera. The only thing you can do is get a replacement and change or send it in to get changed. If you replace it yourself I suggest testing the battery before you put the phone back together. I think the 6p is a great phone and worth it to replace the battery. That just my opinion best of luck.
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Interesting. Did notice a couple of the times it shut down, and it was this last time at 48% as well, was when opening a power hungry game. And yes I agree the 6p is still awesome today, by far the longest I've had a phone. Considered getting the Pixel 2 XL, but it's a waste of money to me if I can get the 6P working well again.
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@ 70% your battery has been toast for quite a while. This degradation doesn't happen overnight. If you did your research and purchased one of the "good" replacement batteries from a known good vendor then, yes it will likely completely solve your problem. If you just bought a random battery from Ebay or BFE, then you may have another dud on your hands. Suggest testing the new battery with Accubattery before sealing it back up. Best of luck.
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Hmm, yeah I grabbed one off ebay. Had over 500 sold though, so hopefully not too terrible, but I will test.
I think it has really degraded in the last ~6 months. Possibly from numerous partial charges? Got a new job in April, and I'm often traveling to different sites only 10-15 minutes apart. During this time plug it into my car for Android Auto.
Thanks for the help guys!

In the same boat (But I have a solution for me)
2 weeks ago I upgraded from a beaten GS6 Edge and I am quite fond of my new phone. However I started experiencing this issue, ignored it for the first week since my S6 at 100% battery would die in an hour or two, if I'm lucky. Then the battery problem became an interest to me. I had read a lot of threads on the issue, some saying its a hardware problem, and some saying just a software bug that hasn't (or can't) be fixed. SOOOO at this point I said screw it and just accepted my phone battery as it is. Installed Dirty Unicorns Rom, messed with settings, and boom a breakthrough (I think). DU has a feature called smart pixels in which to save battery life turns off a percentage of the pixels. Wasn't to fond of this at first, but in order to make my 60 - 70 percent battery last i set it to the lowest setting. Every since then I have had maybe one random shutdown, it's only been a week and a lot could change but for me its working pretty well.
Sidenote: I found that not using camera apps, nor Google assistant had also prevented random shutdowns (this helped me with smart pixels enabled and disabled, if you wanna give it ago on stock)

Hello guys. I am experiencing random shutting downs on my phone too. I bought it in January 2017.
What I have observed and today was confirmed is that I have these unexpected shutting down when I charge the phone with fast charge. Today my phone was at 60% and shut down. When I plugged my phone on the charger, the phone was again at 60%!!! How was it possible? I think the problem might be the battery or the internal controller of the charging system...

Horrible battery life?

I bought this phone from a friend, he warned me the battery life is horrible and that hes replaced it twice already.
Factory reset after purchase, wasnt too bad, ive seen worse. This week though it started what I feared. Today lost 40% battery while at work, never touched it once, no apps running, restarted before leaving the house. I even kept the sensor covered so no 2nd screen, but 6 hours of not being used, not even a call or text, I pick it up and see 60% remaining...
I'll buy a new phone before i buy 10 batteries.
Suggestions much appreciated!

Cecil12 said:
I bought this phone from a friend, he warned me the battery life is horrible and that hes replaced it twice already.
Factory reset after purchase, wasnt too bad, ive seen worse. This week though it started what I feared. Today lost 40% battery while at work, never touched it once, no apps running, restarted before leaving the house. I even kept the sensor covered so no 2nd screen, but 6 hours of not being used, not even a call or text, I pick it up and see 60% remaining...
I'll buy a new phone before i buy 10 batteries.
Suggestions much appreciated!
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Root if possible and use a custom kernel, should help battery life significantly
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Replace the battery! Look through the battery threads in the "accessories" section for suggestions.

My V20 has terrible battery life also, sadly. Now I am using the Mi Max 3 which I only have to plug in once a week. I bought a spare OEM battery for my V20 and the battery never charged. I love the V20 for it's camera and the quad DAC. I can't use it as a daily driver tho due to battery going flat rather rapidly and it can't be rooted to test kernels.

I had terrible battery life and thought it was one of my batteries as i have 2, but it turns out that its the software i was running oreo but downgraded to Android 7 and the battery life is fantastic. I have tried custom roms but they are missing camera and fm radio apps which i use. Hopefully if we get Android pie it will have a better battery life.