Shield TV Pro & 4GB file size limit - Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Since the Shield TV Pro has a 500GB internal hard drive, is there any method available for formatting the storage on that drive to something that will allow file sizes greater than 4GB?

yes,I wonder too.Sounds like the file format is fat32.How to change it ??

maybe it could be reformatted

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Partitions in wm?

Hello everybody,
Does wm support partitions?
So can I split up my 8 gb sd card into two partitions of 4?
Or does wm not support this?
Thanks!
Hope you don't mind me asking, but what for ?
E.g.
Partition one:
Haret > Android
Partition two:
Multimedia stuff + wm
or
Partiton one:
Multimedia
Partition 2
Program files and stuff
There is no need as both Andriod and WM6.x can see Fat/Fat32, which I presume your SD card is formatted.
If you want to separate your media from any programs you want to install on the sd card just use a different folder.
Plugging your SD card into you TP2 is the same as plugging it into your desktop / laptop whatever the OS.
Would you partition a SD card that was plugged into your desktop ?
If you want to partition the SD, try it and let us know... however i think that it will appear as 2 storage cards in explorer.
I will give it a try
It is possible but not usable...
I also searched around on the internet and it works
But I am back at one sd card since I find folders easier than 2 storage cards.
rick94 said:
E.g.
Partition one:
Haret > Android
Partition two:
Multimedia stuff + wm
or
Partiton one:
Multimedia
Partition 2
Program files and stuff
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I know exactly where you're comin' from, man. After I get a 16GB class 6 microSDHC, I intend to partition ~8.5GB as NTFS ('cause I'd like the the max capacity to hold a full DVD DL disk) to handle larger file transfers btwn desk/laptops. And, I'd still have a whoppin' ~7.5GB to be used by the tele as FAT32...'just haven't made that microSDHC purchase yet, but I'd imagine it to be plausible.
kain144000 said:
I know exactly where you're comin' from, man. After I get a 16GB class 6 microSDHC, I intend to partition ~8.5GB as NTFS ('cause I'd like the the max capacity to hold a full DVD DL disk) to handle larger file transfers btwn desk/laptops. And, I'd still have a whoppin' ~7.5GB to be used by the tele as FAT32...'just haven't made that microSDHC purchase yet, but I'd imagine it to be plausible.
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WM doesn't work with NTFS
It used to..
dik23 said:
WM doesn't work with NTFS
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I remember some time ago on Aximsite or another older related site reading how to format NTFS and use a Compact Flash card on Windows Mobile. I did it on my Axim and Ipaq at the time, and kind of remember it working.
dik23 said:
WM doesn't work with NTFS
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I know. However, if there're two partitions, NTFS @ ~8.5GB and FAT32 @ ~7.5GB, then I'd imagine that Windows would see the storage card as two drives, while Windows Mobile would see the 16GB, storage card as ~7.5GB. Anyone, please, do correct me if I'm wrong in my assumption.
This has made me wonder, too. Why does WM refer to "Storage Card 1" occasionally when inserting/unplugging memory cards...? It kinda implies that there is room for multiple cards at the same time...????
Chris
i partitioned my 16 gig hard drive and installed linksys on one partition so i can plug into my computer and dual boot from my phone...
i dont really see a reason to create multiple partitions to have the same function as folders (ie seperating media from doc, ext...)
kain144000 said:
I know exactly where you're comin' from, man. After I get a 16GB class 6 microSDHC, I intend to partition ~8.5GB as NTFS ('cause I'd like the the max capacity to hold a full DVD DL disk) to handle larger file transfers btwn desk/laptops. And, I'd still have a whoppin' ~7.5GB to be used by the tele as FAT32...'just haven't made that microSDHC purchase yet, but I'd imagine it to be plausible.
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You would not gain anything by formatting NTFS other than the ability to set NTFS permissions in Windows. A movie can be stored on a FAT/FAT32 partition with no ill affect on usability. Also, when you purchase any type of storage, the actual formatted size is usually smaller than the advertised size. So if you buy a 16GB card, you will most likely end up with around 15GB max of usable space. I would not plan on having 7.5GB of free space after creating a 8.5GB partition.
htcfan78 said:
You would not gain anything by formatting NTFS other than the ability to set NTFS permissions in Windows...I would not plan on having 7.5GB of free space after creating a 8.5GB partition.
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No, you'd also be able to support files larger than 2GB. And, I know it wouldn't be 7.5GB, that's why I'd said about (~). Prob more like 6.8GB, or so.
dik23 said:
WM doesn't work with NTFS
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I know NTFS doesn't work on Windows Mobile. However, I would assume that if you were to make two partitions, one NTFS, and the other FAT32, the Windows Mobile device would show the FAT32 partition, while a Windows dsktp would show the microSDHC as two partitions, NTFS and FAT32. I've ordered a 16GB microSDHC Class 6, and I'll post my results after I receive, partition and format the card.
Okay. So've received my 16GB microSDHC Class 6, and have partitioned and formatted with Paragon Partition Manager Pro v9.0, and have...
Partition 1 - microSDHC N, 8.61GB NTFS
Partition 2 - microSDHC, 6.24GB FAT32
The device sees the FAT32 partition, as intended. Windows (Vista), however, shows only the 1st partition (NTFS) of the microSD, even when using the device in Disk Drive USB mode. Disk Management sees the FAT32 partition, but no matter what options I select, I'm met with
Code:
An unexpected error has occurred. Check the System Event Log for more information on the error...
At this point, I just need Windows to allow me to give the partition a drive letter. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
in the start search bar type computer managment then go to storage/disk management select the disk and then right click and change letter.
thats supposed to let you change the letter i have to deal with this alot at work with all the network drives and my externals
hope this helps
shigeo said:
...change letter...thats supposed to let you change the letter
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I'd tried this believing that Windows only needed to assign a drive letter, but to no avail. :\

external USB 3.0 hard disk not recognised/mounted by shield TV

i encountered a problem with my external USB 3.0 disk, shield tv won't recognise the disk. its formatted in NTFS in just one partition. In settings > storage the usb drive is greyed out and it says "unsupported file system, or drive is blank", which isnt the case.
i tried to format the disk to several formats shield tv is able to access (i.e exfat, fat 32, ntfs), i also did a full format of the external drive (removing mbr and all partitions)... didnt solve the problem.
and to be sure that its not a controller problem, i hooked another hard disk on the same usb 3.0 controller and everything is working fine.
so i guess its a problem with the drive (seagate momentus thin 500GB), but it works on any other device except the shield TV.
any ideas?
well... found a solution now: i did a full low level format of the disk (not just the fast one with mbr/partition removal), formatted it as ex-fat with win 10. after that shield tv was able to mount it. then i erased the drive in settings > storage, removed it safely and copied the files back on with my computer. now it seems to work as it should.
problem solved

Formatting 128GB flash drive as internal storage

Is it possible to get 128GB flash drive working as internal storage in marshmallow? I formatted my pny 128GB flashdrive to fat32 using diskpart and when I try to format it in nexus player to use as internal storage, it quits after around 5 mins saying that it couldn't format the drive. I currently have a 16gb driver as internal storage and it's running out of space. Also I'm using a USB hub with a otg cable if that helps. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks.
I am using an old 250gb sata HDD via a hub with eithernet and it works. Esfilemanager will sometimes crash it requiring a hard reboot to reactivate it but do far so good.
Did you format it in Android so that you can use it as internal storage? I can plug it in as removable storage but can't use it as internal storage.
Make sure you partition as FAT 32 and Master Boot Record instead of GUID Partition or Apple Partition Mac, just to make sure. And remember that FAT 32 won't handle files larger than 4GB, so keep that in mind. If you have the need to use larger than 4GB files you can format the drive to NTFS on Mac using the Tuxera driver or any other third party NTFS driver; Android does read NTFS partitions.
nd4spdviper said:
Make sure you partition as FAT 32 and Master Boot Record instead of GUID Partition or Apple Partition Mac, just to make sure. And remember that FAT 32 won't handle files larger than 4GB, so keep that in mind. If you have the need to use larger than 4GB files you can format the drive to NTFS on Mac using the Tuxera driver or any other third party NTFS driver; Android does read NTFS partitions.
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I formatted it as fat 32 and MBR using partitionwizard and still having the same issue. Does anybody have any other suggestions that can fix this?
I formatted my 128gb usb stick to a NTFS files system in a windows machine and then as "internal" in the Nexus Player.
I tried with a 16gb flash drive and 1tb USB hard drive and was able to use any as internal storage. As a matter of fact, the 1tb drive had 3 partitions and the Nexus wiped them for or good and used the entire tera as internal storage.
Hi,
Same problem for me with a 64GB kingston flash drive ... The nexus player fails to format the key as an internal storage. If I try to format as a general USB storage it works, and my key become a 64GB external storage in FAT32 (but useless for me, I have to store big files > 4GB ...). So i want to use it as an internal storage.
Any ideas why the internal storage format option goes into error ?
ichi11 said:
Hi,
Same problem for me with a 64GB kingston flash drive ... The nexus player fails to format the key as an internal storage. If I try to format as a general USB storage it works, and my key become a 64GB external storage in FAT32 (but useless for me, I have to store big files > 4GB ...). So i want to use it as an internal storage.
Any ideas why the internal storage format option goes into error ?
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I have exactly the same problem.
Perhaps it depends on the flash drive model ? Does people getting it working can share their flash drive model ? (I don't want to buy 50 flash drive before I can expand the internal storage ... )
For me, this flash drive doesn't work : Kingston DataTraveler Micro 3.1

Memory swap on FTV2

I believe I've read that on rooted Androids you can 'swap' the internal memory with an SSD card, so effectively the device 'thinks' the SSD is internal. I'm using an SSD on my unrooted FTV2; it's seen as external. I have most all apps, inc Kodi, coped to this SSD.
However, Im wondering if there Is there an unrooted method to 'swap', as outlined above?
Thank you.
If you format the ssd to fat 32 it would give you the option to use as internal. But you lose the ability to have any files over 4gig in size (i.e. bluray and 4k digital copies)
nujackk said:
If you format the ssd to fat 32 it would give you the option to use as internal. But you lose the ability to have any files over 4gig in size (i.e. bluray and 4k digital copies)
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Thank you.

ExFat file format support

Fire HD 10 (9th generation)
Fire os 7.3.1.7
Ok really? Amazon blocked file support for ExFat? Is there a way around this at all? I have a 64 GB I was planning to put some movies on for my next flight. But the 4 GB file size limit of Fat32 is hampering my plans...
Installed the Play store following the guide here. Boy - I'd love to get AOSP or something on here but that isn't looking so good right yet. Anyway - any tips or tricks to get movies going would be appreciated.
Regards
I use exFAT/NTFS for USB by Paragon Software from Playstore (actually I downloaded it from apkpure first to avoid the store) to manage my movies on NTFS formatted HDDs. The settings section of the app shows I can access NTFS, exFAT, HFS+, FAT32, extFS.
Actually there was a limited number to mount my drive for free and when it was over I had to pay a small fee (I hope it is not something regularly, have to check again) and register via my Google account which meant I had go install Playstore to get access to my Google account on my Fire HD 10.
It works fine for me. Use it with Total Commander. I tried to find a solution first from Amazon Appstore but failed. I extended the Fire HD 10 internal memory btw with a 400GB SanDisk MC which is ext4 formatted with no relevant file size limit for movie files.
Let me know if it works for you. My next project is to do the same with my Fire TV Cube.
BR Martin
Hey Submonte - thanks for the idea. I downloaded paragon but I think it is angled toward USB mounted drives like the external hdd you mentioned. But slipping the micro SD card in - doesn't do anything.
Hmm...
Ah I see. You want to use your microSD card as Portable memory. I excluded that option for me (but never trying the exFAT app in this way), got a Tutuo USB C OTG adapter (micro SD and SD and USB A) and set the memory option of my Fire HD 10 for the SanDisk card to internal memory. So I copy movies from external micro SD or HDD (mounted by the Paragon USB app) to the extended internal memory (Android: Adoptable memory). Of course in this case I cannot take out the card and put it into a laptop or so, it is not portable, internally formatted as ext 4, but has no file size limit.
Okay - I might see a ray of hope here... So I get "Adopted Storage"... So if I power off the tab - can I remove it - mount as ext4 on my linux laptop and copy over all the files and then power it back up? If so - how crazy is that - it won't recognize it when I format it in my laptop as ext4...
I read somewhere it is a big FU from Amazon on no way they want you watching HD movies with out buying them from Amazon. Thought that was ranting - but if it supports ext4 "internally" but purposely blocks it in this way??
Anyway - thanks for the reply. Gonna make some tests...
Adopting the storage in Android/Fire OS settings means the micro SD will be reformatted from exFAT or FAT32 to ext4 (or f2fs eventually in other cases - Samsung) and tied to the particular device (the Fire HD 10 in your case) by a key stored in the device. The internal built in storage (eg 64GB in my HD 10) will be extended and the micro SD memory an integrated part of it. Provided you unmount the card and remount it the device will recognize it again eventually, but no warranty. It is not dedicated to be portable even if you format it ext4 on your linux pc. Therefore I chose the way I described.
By the way I use Prime Video on this and other devices (and many other Amazon services) and use also their offers and buy movies for 50% off or so. Their Echos and so on are great. It is their right to restrict the interfaces in their devices (Still we get a lot for our money). However I wanted to use my tablet universally and do what I want with it. I am a supporter of open standards since my first steps in computing during 70s and 80s, hard and soft. It remained as a hobby. Let me know if you make progress. BR Martin
No joy. I inserted another 64GB SD into the Fire HD 10 and told it to use it as internal
Using the USB cable I copied an 8GB video over to the tablet. Shut the tablet down and took out the card and looked at it in Gparted in Linux
The card has 2 partitions
16 MB partition FAT32
59.46 GB partition file format is unknown
The video is not on the card. It is on the tablet though. Leads me to believe that the unknown format might still have a 4GB limit.
Oh and as for my comments on Amazon. Not really dissing this at all. This is a slick tablet for the price or heck - twice the price. My commentary really was that standard Android OS supports read/write of exfat and maybe ext4?. Just wish that Amazon OS did.
Tks for your report! Let me try something out, too. Need some days to get back to you, my holidays are over.
I don't think there is answer to this. I have made 100 experiments and really only 2 things work. I can format the card FAT32 and put it into the card reader or I can format a thumb drive FAT32 and put into an adapter and into the USB C port. Any other formats in the SD card slot or via OTG on the USB C port all fail to read the file system.
In contrast - my Samsung tablet seems to accept FAT32 and exFAT formatted SD cards into the slot. It excepts FAT32 and NTFS formated thumb drives via OTG on the USB C port. Really - NTFS.
For fun I installed a terminal on the Fire HD and tried typing:
Code:
$ sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse exfat-utils
But the terminal doesn't support sudo. Probably not even close to the correct commands for the FireHD - but it adds support for exfat in Debian linux distros if not included.
Anyway - I'm still looking but for now I am transcoding some blue-rays to make smaller files. Just seems like wasted time.
I also need exfat or ntfs for SDHC cards, for few amazon fire hd 10 2019.
as I understand, Microsoft is asking for a few dollars for a exfat or ntfs licenses,
so no support in stock firmware.
write if there is news. thanks/
I found a solution to get a 128 GB micro SD card working in my Fire HD 10 11th generation. The card must be formatted as FAT32, otherwise it will not work.
I accomplished it by attaching the card to the USB-C port on the tablet (using a white USB-C adapter that came with my Pixel phone and Transcend USB card reader). The tablet detected this card and allowed me to format it. When I connected the card formatted in the tablet to PC it showed it was formatted as FAT32 and the total capacity showed correctly as 128 GB.
FAT32 maximum partition size is 2TB unfortunately Windows did not allow me to format my card as FAT32. Card needs to be formatted on Android device to be useful in Fire HD 10.

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