So yeah, this is a Galaxy S4 I've had for over three years (bought it on May 6 2013, started using about three weeks later on May 30). It's a non-LTE i9500 model purchased in Indonesia, rooted back on KitKat but unrooted to update to Lollipop and have not re-rooted since. Running Android 5.0.1 with Dec security patch, and just re-flashed stock firmware from SamMobile trying to fix its horrible battery life, but not possible it seems. Battery is about a year old and is my third unit after the first two swelled up and became unusable, this one seems fine but has a habit of dropping quickly when used and regaining some battery power on standby. When used for light browsing the processor heats up to almost insane levels not even the famously hot Snapdragon 808 reaches on my G4, but cools down quickly as well, with the software never acknowledging such heat and remaining responsive throughout the whole time. Is there any technical explanation for such occurences?
You need to install battery monitorin tools.
skezza said:
You need to install battery monitorin tools.
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Done. Should I do a full cycle and post?
AB__CD said:
Done. Should I do a full cycle and post?
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Well, the official firmware AFAIK has no battery drain/overheating issue
But if incase youre getting it (which obviously cannot be ruled out), try clearing cache and try removing your memory card and then testing the overheating part
Also, do NOT use any performance optimization apps as they do more bad than clearing junk
Plus, Try a different light version of any rom and then revert (such as the MBP v4). Might work.
Technical explanation for battery drains :
1. Bad Network (causes l2_hsic wakelocks. Bad. Very bad.)
2. Overly Filled Memory card/Internal Memory
3. Performance optimization apps (Damaging.)
4. No deep sleep (Check using CPU SPY)
5. Overly filled cache memory. (Clearing cache should be done once in a month, It helps a great deal)
6. Resetting fuel Gauge (a non-calibrated fuel gauge would cause this thing to happen. Reset it by using *#0228#)
7. Using a non-standard charger.
8. Some part of the phone not working or has gone bad and probably you don't know
Press thanks if this helps
DeepankarS said:
Well, the official firmware AFAIK has no battery drain/overheating issue
But if incase youre getting it (which obviously cannot be ruled out), try clearing cache and try removing your memory card and then testing the overheating part
Also, do NOT use any performance optimization apps as they do more bad than clearing junk
Plus, Try a different light version of any rom and then revert (such as the MBP v4). Might work.
Technical explanation for battery drains :
1. Bad Network (causes l2_hsic wakelocks. Bad. Very bad.)
2. Overly Filled Memory card/Internal Memory
3. Performance optimization apps (Damaging.)
4. No deep sleep (Check using CPU SPY)
5. Overly filled cache memory. (Clearing cache should be done once in a month, It helps a great deal)
6. Resetting fuel Gauge (a non-calibrated fuel gauge would cause this thing to happen. Reset it by using *#0228#)
7. Using a non-standard charger.
8. Some part of the phone not working or has gone bad and probably you don't know
Press thanks if this helps
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Well I just flashed the official firmware two days ago and factory reset as well. There's no more memory card in the phone, and I disabled all the apps I'm not using. Only installed app so far is GSam and nothing else.
Network isn't an issue, as my S7 and G5 get great battery. Charger is a standard Samsung one (not the original, but it is a non-fast one), but doesnt matter which charger I use the Android System is number one drainer followed by Android OS. Screen is usually number 3. Wakelocks arent an issue either: standby is great as battery level goes UP in standby. Active usage is the main issue here: about 1.5 to 2h of continuous usage before it dies.
So, any clues?
Also, what's the fuel gage thing?
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Well I just flashed the official firmware two days ago and factory reset as well. There's no more memory card in the phone, and I disabled all the apps I'm not using. Only installed app so far is GSam and nothing else.
Network isn't an issue, as my S7 and G5 get great battery. Charger is a standard Samsung one (not the original, but it is a non-fast one), but doesnt matter which charger I use the Android System is number one drainer followed by Android OS. Screen is usually number 3. Wakelocks arent an issue either: standby is great as battery level goes UP in standby. Active usage is the main issue here: about 1.5 to 2h of continuous usage before it dies.
So, any clues?
Also, what's the fuel gage thing?
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Fuel Gauge :
"By resetting the guage you delete the battery stats file and create a fresh file. By this system does provide any feeds while on battery and this helps the battery to last longer without any conflict with other apps."
" it's not like calibration because it will not make battery to longer work, if your fuel gauge chip is ok, and if u reset it, u will not see differences, but if your chip went crazy and u reset fuel gauge chip, your batt indicator can drop(or grow) for ~30%(or less or more)" - @Sejk97
If official Firmware has a drain, Try a custom rom. The lite version. As mentioned earlier. Would definitely help
And if android OS is consuming power, Try complaining to google. (It is meant to use power bdw, but in official lolipop, it uses power more than required. That is why we use custom roms :') )
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Fuel Gauge :
"By resetting the guage you delete the battery stats file and create a fresh file. By this system does provide any feeds while on battery and this helps the battery to last longer without any conflict with other apps."
" it's not like calibration because it will not make battery to longer work, if your fuel gauge chip is ok, and if u reset it, u will not see differences, but if your chip went crazy and u reset fuel gauge chip, your batt indicator can drop(or grow) for ~30%(or less or more)" - @Sejk97
If official Firmware has a drain, Try a custom rom. The lite version. As mentioned earlier. Would definitely help
And if android OS is consuming power, Try complaining to google. (It is meant to use power bdw, but in official lolipop, it uses power more than required. That is why we use custom roms :') )
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OK so I reset it. Do i charge it until full?
DeepankarS said:
Well, the official firmware AFAIK has no battery drain/overheating issue
But if incase youre getting it (which obviously cannot be ruled out), try clearing cache and try removing your memory card and then testing the overheating part
Also, do NOT use any performance optimization apps as they do more bad than clearing junk
Plus, Try a different light version of any rom and then revert (such as the MBP v4). Might work.
Technical explanation for battery drains :
1. Bad Network (causes l2_hsic wakelocks. Bad. Very bad.)
2. Overly Filled Memory card/Internal Memory
3. Performance optimization apps (Damaging.)
4. No deep sleep (Check using CPU SPY)
5. Overly filled cache memory. (Clearing cache should be done once in a month, It helps a great deal)
6. Resetting fuel Gauge (a non-calibrated fuel gauge would cause this thing to happen. Reset it by using *#0228#)
7. Using a non-standard charger.
8. Some part of the phone not working or has gone bad and probably you don't know
Press thanks if this helps
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Okok, thank you SO MUCH. My Galaxy S4 now has a usable amount of battery after resetting the fuel gauge. Still not excellent, but definitely a massive improvement over before. If I get it a new battery, it will definitely get me excellent uptime.
DeepankarS said:
Fuel Gauge :
"By resetting the guage you delete the battery stats file and create a fresh file. By this system does provide any feeds while on battery and this helps the battery to last longer without any conflict with other apps."
" it's not like calibration because it will not make battery to longer work, if your fuel gauge chip is ok, and if u reset it, u will not see differences, but if your chip went crazy and u reset fuel gauge chip, your batt indicator can drop(or grow) for ~30%(or less or more)" - @Sejk97
If official Firmware has a drain, Try a custom rom. The lite version. As mentioned earlier. Would definitely help
And if android OS is consuming power, Try complaining to google. (It is meant to use power bdw, but in official lolipop, it uses power more than required. That is why we use custom roms :') )
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Thanks to you as well for the info. It has been a huge help!
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Thanks to you as well for the info. It has been a huge help!
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Youre welcome anyday mate. Glad it worked :')
Related
Standart disclaimer: I am not responsible if you break things by following this guide, though I will be genuinely surprised if you do.
Credits: This fix is a combination of battery management techniques discussed in the Atrix forums + a technique that I originally found in a Milestone forum (I didn't invent it, but I am too lazy to search who originally posted it ).
This worked in fixing the problem for me (the same problem that I see many others are writing about on the forums), but I can't guarantee it will work for you.
Who should use this? (aka your battery problem symptoms are
1. Battery life on 2.3.4 is significantly worse for you than before.
2. Battery stats are jumping and showing inconsistent information.
3. Your phone loses 30%-60% just by sitting there overnight.
4. Phone idle draining 30%-60% of battery just by sitting there overnight.
5. After flashing a couple of roms, your battery stats got messed up and the phone thinks it's at 100% charge while it's not.
I personally started having battery problems after flashing a couple of roms, applying 1% battery mod and despite flashing jug6ernaut's CWM battery fix.
When I went to bed with a 100% charge, I would wake up to a 50% charge, with Phone Idle process showing up as massacring the battery. The steps below successfully fixed the problem for me.
Prerequisites:
1. Atrix on one of the rooted 2.3.4 roms (ideally,- deodexed and with unlocked CWM)
2. Wall Charger
3. jug6ernaut's CWM battery fix (put it on your SD card you will need it later!) I have also attached it to this post.
4. Battery Calibration app from the market
5. Watchdog Lite or Full from the market
Instructions:
It's best to complete this procedure in the evening before going to bed, so you can leave it at 100% overnight and check in the morning if the drainage issue is fixed!!!
The whole procedure along with recalibration might take up to 5-6 hours!
1. Take the case off your Atrix (one of the latter steps involves taking the battery out from the phone while it's plugged in. Make sure your case won't stand in the way.)
2. Install Battery Calibration app from the market
3. Plug in your Atrix to charge while it's on, wait till it gets to a 100%
4. When the charge is 100%, open the BatteryCalibration app and lookup what the charge is in MV while at 100%. (Explanatory pic, needed number circled in red). Write it down.
My Atrix was showing ~3400MV while at 100%, which is definitely not the maximum capacity.
5. Discharge your Atrix completely until it shuts off.
A good way of doing this quickly is by turning on wifi, and a video player.
6. Without turning on the phone plug it into a wall charger and let it get to 100%
7. When it's at 100%, without unplugging it from the wall charger, take off the battery cover, and take the battery out.
Your phone will "reboot" and show a Missing Battery icon.
8. Without unplugging the phone from the wall charger or turning it on, put the battery back in and wait until the phone recognizes the battery.
9. Your battery should now be recognized by the phone, and showing a charge % significantly lower than 100%.
Mine showed only 5%. Back when I used a Milestone, it usually showed 60% after doing this.
10. Let it sit there charging for 2-3 hours.
My phone wouldn't charge past 10%, but yours might. The numbers don't matter much as the phone is definitely getting additional charge that could have been lost while flashing ROMs, etc.
11. After 2-3 hours, turn the phone on while holding the volume down button and get into CWM.
Do not disconnect it from the charger still!
12. Install jug6ernaut's CWM battery fix (even if you had it installed before), do not reboot yet.
Do not disconnect it from the charger still!
13. Wipe battery stats in CWM, reboot.
Do not disconnect it from the charger still!
14. When the phone turns on, go into BatteryCalibration app again and look up your MV numbers
- if you were like me, they should be significantly higher than before. After this whole process I had 4200MV at 100%, comparing to 3400MV before calibration.
Do not disconnect it from the charger still!
15. Before going to sleep - Install Watchdog from the market. Go into it's preferences, set CPU threshhold to 20%, check "Include phone processes", check "Monitor phone processes", check "Display all phone processes", set system CPU threshhold to 20% as well.
Do not disconnect it from the charger still!
16. Make sure your wifi and data connections are off. Now finally unplug the phone from the charger.
Go to bed, let your phone sleep too.
17. Success! Next morning check where your battery % is at and if you followed the instructions correctly / got lucky like me, your battery life should be 90% or more.
I went to bed with 98% and woke up to 94%. So, I consider this mission a success.
(Your general battery capacity should have increased, even if something still was draining the battery, you will be able to find the infringing process in WatchDog with the settings we've set up in step 15 )
That's all folks! Please report your success / lack of such here. Also, feel free to ask questions, and I along with other users with answer them according to our ability.
I will later add a section on "good practices for battery usage" with tips and tricks.
Cheers!
Attached are screenshots of my results after calibration: This was under moderate usage. Pretty damn good if you ask me.
Post-calibration methods of improving Battery Life
Updated: Post#2 will explain how to solve battery drainage problems when recalibration wasn't enough. It will also explain how battery reporting works, common practices, tips, tricks, etc.
Battery Tips / Tricks / Common Practices
Important things to know:
1. It's important to understand how battery indicator on Android works and how Android manages / reports your battery life. Please read this article:
Your Smartphone’s Battery Gauge is Lying to You (and it’s not such a bad thing)
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/25/you...is-lying-to-you-and-its-not-such-a-bad-thing/
2. Li-ion batteries used in modern smartphones don't have "charge memory". Partial charges won't hurt the battery (e.g. charging from 60% to 80% or from 10% to 50% etc). Feel free to give your phone small charges whenever you have time and need the phone to last longer.
3. Smartphone batteries don't like to be completely discharged or to be kept at 100% capacity for extended periods of time (this actually damages batteries over time). But worry not, the battery software prevents this from happening for you. That's why some of your phones never get to 100% or drop from 100% to 90% minutes after you disconnct the phone from a charger.
4. All batteries gradually lose a small percentage of their capacity after a certain amount of charge cycles. It's a natural part of life. It's always nice to have a spare battery or to purchase a replacement when your current battery isn't to the task anymore.
5. Don't pay much attention to the battery %, just use your phones. I know it's very tempting to track your battery usage every 15 minutes and try to find problems. Been there myself. Thing is, if you do this, you might start thinking you have problems, when you don't have any.
Bottom line - just try to use your phone and not mess with the battery unless problems become really apparent.
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Other proven ways to improve Battery Life
If you have re-calibrated to a full capacity (4200mv) but your battery still drains terribly - follow these steps to pin point the problem.
1. Find which app / process is draining the battery.
If you get lucky, the infringing app will show up directly under the stock "Battery Usage" statistics. However, in most cases "Battery Usage" isn't very informative. Most people report that they only see "Phone Idle" consuming most of the battery without much insight into the details.
Things to do:
- install Watchdog, go to preferences, set CPU threshhold to 20% (or even lower if it's not enough), check "Include phone processes", check "Monitor phone processes", check "Display all phone processes", set system CPU threshhold to 20%(or even lower if it's not enough) as well. Run it for a couple of days.
If you start getting frequent Watchdog notifications about a certain app breaching the threshold - uninstall it, find an alternative.
- install BetterBatteryStats from here -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809 run it for a couple of days and monitor apps / processes that are using up more wakelocks than they should.
Once you find the infringing app - uninstall it, if it's a process - find out if it's safe to stop / freeze before doing anything.
2. Freeze bloatware aka "stop the problem before it becomes a problem."
Unless you are running CM7, your rom is based on stock 2.3.4 and still has blur in it. Blur apps and processes might be running without you even using them and sucking out precious batter life while they are at it.
Things to do:
- Get TitaniumBackup, freeze all bloatware that is mentioned as "safe" in this thread -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182663
Use your phone for a couple of days afterwards and watch for improvements.
If these software tweaks aren't enough, the problem might be with your system setup. Go through these steps which should hopefully fix your setup in favor of awesome battery life:
3. Flash a custom kernel, set up battery saving profiles.
Many people have reported success with this step. Custom kernels are not just for overclocking. A custom kernel with smart profiles will definitely give definitely extend your phones operating life during the day.
Things to do:
- Get a custom kernel., the popular choice on here seems to be faux'es kernel, so I recommend it -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1156040
Get one of the battery saving SetCpu profiles along with it. Basically, a good battery saving profile looks something like this:
- absolute minimum CPU clock with screen off (something like 275 Mhz)
- lowering CPU clock with temperature > 50C (something like ~800Mhz)
- lowering CPU clock when battery < 30% (something like ~800Mhz)
Many people reported success in using such profile for lowering "Phone Idle" drain.
4. Flash a different radio.
WARNING: Be extremely careful with this. Flashing a wrong radio is the right way to hard brick your phone.
Although some people are reporting to have fixed battery drainage by trying out a different radio, I seriously wouldn't recommend going on a flashing spree unless you know what you are doing.
My advice here: flash the latest 2.3.4 for your carrier if you haven't yet. From there on, experiment at your own risk.
5. Disable Data and Wifi when idle either manually or with an app."
I seriously get surprised every time someone says they have a horrible battery life, when they keep an internet connection on at all times. Constant data always = battery drain.
Things to do:
- use apps like Green Power to disable data / wifi for you when you are not using it
- learn to turn off your internet connection manually
6. If all else fails - start over from scratch (read: clean install a rom).
I've heard reports of people getting better life with Froyo than GB, or that a specific custom ROM solved their problem for them. A million dollar question: if it works for you, why not use it?
Things to do:
- try a ROM without blur, like CM7
- try Ninja Speed Freak (developer and many users reported great battery life)
- if battery life is your top concern - try Froyo
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FAQ
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... ask away!
Many thanks! Have pass about three days reading about the battery issues/solutions, and I was getting confused by so many info! Will try it tonight!
PS: Does the jug6ernaut's CWM battery fix works for the Orange 2.3.4 ?
eklam said:
Many thanks! Have pass about three days reading about the battery issues/solutions, and I was getting confused by so many info! Will try it tonight!
PS: Does the jug6ernaut's CWM battery fix works for the Orange 2.3.4 ?
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Are you using stock Orange 2.3.4 rom?
If yes, your Rom might not have the battery jumping problem. You can still use this guide without the battery fix to recalibrate.
Let's wait for someone with Orange 2.3.4 to confirm if jug6ernaut's CWM battery fix can be used or not.
Indeed, I have not the battery jump issue, but I'm exprimenting some weird behavior...
like when I restart the phone, it shows about 10% higher than before. I tried this multiples times yesterday. When it was about 40%, it starts to drop suddenly, 'till it got to 18% and get back to normal decrease to 4%, 2~3 hours later...
See the images attached, the red circles are the times I rebooted it and the blue arrow is when it drops suddenly...
Question on step 4. To confirm, we shouldn't click on anything in BatteryCalibration, all that needs to be done is take note on the MV number, correct?
eklam said:
Indeed, I have not the battery jump issue, but I'm exprimenting some weird behavior...
like when I restart the phone, it shows about 10% higher than before. I tried this multiples times yesterday. When it was about 40%, it starts to drop suddenly, 'till it got to 18% and get back to normal decrease to 4%, 2~3 hours later...
See the images attached, the red circles are the times I rebooted it and the blue arrow is when it drops suddenly...
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Did it only start doing this on 2.3.4 or you haven't checked before? Anyway, I would do the calibration to see if it changes anything.
coleburns said:
Question on step 4. To confirm, we shouldn't click on anything BatteryCalibration, all that needs to be done is take note on the MV number, correct?
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No clicking in step 4. Just write down or remember the MV number.
Yes it just starts when updating to 2.3.4... In the first days I got the impression of lower battery level, so reading the forums I saw the restart/level change problem, and tested it
eklam said:
Yes it just starts when updating to 2.3.4... In the first days I got the impression of lower battery level, so reading the forums I saw the restart/level change problem, and tested it
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You probably updated to 2.3.4 while not at 100% battery level, and it messed up your battery stat. So, yes, do all the steps in this guide except for jug6ernaut's battery fix part.
thanks, ill give this a shot....again.....tonight and hopefully it will fix my issue.
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Download link seems to be down...just errors out when trying to download.
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jarsh92 said:
Download link seems to be down...just errors out when trying to download.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
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Which download link? CMW_Jug6_FIXv2.zip?
I'm on a rooted stock GB and I'm having the problem where the battery usage stats are inaccurate and won't got below 90% after using it all day. This all started after I used Battery Calibration. Do you think that this would help correct the problem?
Edit: Also, would I need to complete all of the steps including the CWM part? I haven't flashed any roms yet, so I don't know if this would be necessary.
ThickG said:
I'm on a rooted stock GB and I'm having the problem where the battery usage stats are inaccurate and won't got below 90% after using it all day. This all started after I used Battery Calibration. Do you think that this would help correct the problem?
Edit: Also, would I need to complete all of the steps including the CWM part? I haven't flashed any roms yet, so I don't know if this would be necessary.
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Seems like you used Battery Calibration while not at 100% charge and your battery stats got messed up.
The reason I recommend using CWM is because the battery stats file is created on each boot. So, with my instructions you can charge the phone to 100% while it's off and wipe the messed up stats before it boots.
You can try using my instructions, without the CWM part, except you need to wipe your battery stats with Battery Calibration app after step 4.
lol i left pandora on since this morning and its only at 67%. ugh, when i wanna force drain the battery it goes slow as hell but when i wanna conserve battery live for usage it drains quick. hahaha.
I just flashed navalynt's πCrust rom fully charged, cleared stats through cwm, booted and now i'm close to 3days.
dictoresno said:
lol i left pandora on since this morning and its only at 67%. ugh, when i wanna force drain the battery it goes slow as hell but when i wanna conserve battery live for usage it drains quick. hahaha.
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lol yes. I used video playback to drain mine. But if it's really a PITA, you can always just leave it till tomorrow to discharge naturally.
Jonous said:
I just flashed navalynt's πCrust rom fully charged, cleared stats through cwm, booted and now i'm close to 3days.
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Yep, that's why flashing only when at 100% charge always pays off.
I get the same results by booting to CWM, wiping battery stats, rebooting, starting Battery Calibration, plugging phone into wall charger, charging to 100% (4197mv for me), and then calibrating with Battery Calibration. I start this process at any battery percentage, and have been doing this for a long time now. I have never had to deplete my battery until my phone shuts off, and get great battery life.
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CaelanT said:
I get the same results by booting to CWM, wiping battery stats, rebooting, starting Battery Calibration, plugging phone into wall charger, charging to 100% (4197mv for me), and then calibrating with Battery Calibration. I start this process at any battery percentage, and have been doing this for a long time now. I have never had to deplete my battery until my phone shuts off, and get great battery life.
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After the calibration I had 4200mv, so it seems like you are doing things right in regards to the battery.
"Taking the battery out and putting it back in" trick works wonders though in restoring battery life to maximum state (if you had it decrease for some reason). I've tested it multiple times even back when I had the Milestone.
Guys I have a problem for the battery of my notes 3. when loading the phone off me arriving at 100% then when I go to turn down towards 95% as ever ?? I also bought a new battery and always makes the same joke then I consume a lot. For example when I go to school not using it almost never goes down by 40%.
I have to bring in warranty you think?
Do a factory reset to rule out software problem?
Some further information would be great.
1. How old is your phone?
2. Customrom or stock? IceCreamSandwich, JellyBean, Kitkat or Lollipop? If customrom is it stockbased or cm/omni etc.
3. Did you charged your phone always using trustworthy chargers?
4. Do you use original spare parts?
5. Did you try to calibrate your battery? (never had a prob. with battery calibration, but you never know..)
6. Do you have a batterylog? Maybe there's a battery draining app.
Software related problems can be solved doing a factory reset or, if this doesn´t work, try to update to latest available android version.
Ironstrix said:
Some further information would be great.
1. How old is your phone?
2. Customrom or stock? IceCreamSandwich, JellyBean, Kitkat or Lollipop? If customrom is it stockbased or cm/omni etc.
3. Did you charged your phone always using trustworthy chargers?
4. Do you use original spare parts?
5. Did you try to calibrate your battery? (never had a prob. with battery calibration, but you never know..)
6. Do you have a batterylog? Maybe there's a battery draining app.
Software related problems can be solved doing a factory reset or, if this doesn´t work, try to update to latest available android version.
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boys then the phone has just 7 months old and I have always used products samsung original. use as OS 4.4.2 kitkat officer and I have done
several times factory reset etc but I always have the same problem.
as calibrations battery not having root permissions I never made.
do you have mp3 files on your Sdcard?i had a battery drain once because of an audio mix service.the cause was bad mp3 files.if so take a backup of them,delete the ones on your phone,see if the prob is gone or not.
I am willing to help but honestly i cant understand your english. can you show us the battery usage?
Just to clarify it,
you charge your phone untill it reaches 100%.
Then you plug it off and it instantly drops down to 95%
You did a factory reset and the issue persists
If this is correct it seems to be an issue with the charging controller. If you never modified your hardware/software (tripping knox or whatever) sent it to service.
luigi97777 said:
Guys I have a problem for the battery of my notes 3. when loading the phone off me arriving at 100% then when I go to turn down towards 95% as ever ?? I also bought a new battery and always makes the same joke then I consume a lot. For example when I go to school not using it almost never goes down by 40%.
I have to bring in warranty you think?
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Don't quiet understand what your saying?
You having issues with your battery draining quickly?
If so download Battery Doctor and it will display apps using your battery.
Try turning off bluetooth, wifi, any connection apps and see if that helps.
Your need to narrow the issue down.
Hey, sorry for not posting it on the ([NOOB FRIENDLY] Ask the question!) thread because I thought this might be a little too long winded.
So, I've bought this Note 4 (5.0.1) in Nov last year, battery life has been great, could last me 1 to 2day with a full charge with med usage.
But just recently (still on 5.0.1), I've noticed abnormal battery drain. When I unplugged my charger at 100% and when to bed (GPS/Wifi/Apps Closed), the next day it will not turn on. So I plugged it in and it says 0%. (Used to get only 5% drain to 95% over night)
So, the next night I put it in airplane mode and it still drains to 0%, what's more in the history details it says my Wifi is on the entire time even though it's not...
Fully charged it, unplugged and it would drain ~40% in around 4hrs standby with screen/wifi/gps off and would need a recharge almost twice a day... Even my 1800mAh One X doesn't even drain that much in idle.
Did a factory reset via stock recovery(Still unrooted), cleared cache partition, disabled sync all accounts, disabled searching for network even if wifi is off, formatted SD card, disabled unused services/apps/samsung's bloatware but it's still the same. (5.1.1 still not available on my device). Greenify can't find any apps to hibernate.
Highest power sapping was Android system using ~8% ( Was 23% before reset)
- Mine also has autofocus/blurry problem.
Edit - Oh, battery had ran to 0% thrice before these things happened.
> Should I send in back to Samsung for a replacement or try it with a new oem battery or root it with a custom rom/kernel? Thanks!
does the battery heat (not the device) ?
-if it doesn't your battery might just have gone faulty , if you notice suspicious loss in battery % after restarting might be the battery just got limpy on you and yea that can happen on new batteries , fluctuating A/C current can do that to it (being on a generator / constant drop in voltage)
does the device heat ?
-if it does might be a case of rogue software that manipulated your system / kernel or just use push / pull / service load in a hideous way , honestly i dont know of a way to just identify / isolate such an app but here are some thoughts :
1 - if your phone wasn't rooted and it doesn't feel like killing your baby just factory reset the phone and see if it helps
2 - if your phone was rooted i suggest you reflash stock rom (just to make sure malicious tweaks had been reset)
3 - if you just don't want to do that use an app such as Kernel Adiutor / AnTuTu CPU Master to reduce processing power at idle times so rogue softwares wouldn't lead to significant drains (which is not really fixing the hole in the boat but making the wall higher)
4 - test with few battery boosters apps , don't have any to recommend but a lot of those attempt to analyse which apps do the drain (it's most of the time fake but meh)
night-mayor said:
does the battery heat (not the device) ?
-if it doesn't your battery might just have gone faulty , if you notice suspicious loss in battery % after restarting might be the battery just got limpy on you and yea that can happen on new batteries , fluctuating A/C current can do that to it (being on a generator / constant drop in voltage)
does the device heat ?
-if it does might be a case of rogue software that manipulated your system / kernel or just use push / pull / service load in a hideous way , honestly i dont know of a way to just identify / isolate such an app but here are some thoughts :
1 - if your phone wasn't rooted and it doesn't feel like killing your baby just factory reset the phone and see if it helps
2 - if your phone was rooted i suggest you reflash stock rom (just to make sure malicious tweaks had been reset)
3 - if you just don't want to do that use an app such as Kernel Adiutor / AnTuTu CPU Master to reduce processing power at idle times so rogue softwares wouldn't lead to significant drains (which is not really fixing the hole in the boat but making the wall higher)
4 - test with few battery boosters apps , don't have any to recommend but a lot of those attempt to analyse which apps do the drain (it's most of the time fake but meh)
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Battery temps are ok, hovering a bit higher than room temps.
Factory reset it the second time, problem is still occuring.
BetterBatteryStats shows device does go into deep sleep mode but the drain is still ~11%/hr with minimal screen on time.
- Just emailed the their service center and probably gonna popby their store tomorrow to see what's their thoughts on this...
Update: Samsung replaced the motherboard, battery and rear-camera foc since it's still under warranty. Battery drain problem is gone.
Admins, you can close this thread now.
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Hello Experts,
My Battery is draining like crazy. I tried almost everything to figure out what is the issue but could not figure out. Below are the details I gathered from the things I tried.
My battery started draining almost 30 % overnight. Initially I thought it was due to the Unofficial Marshmallow Rom, I could see Wi-Fi to be cause of this drain. Hence I tried different Roms (Cyanogen Mod, PA, DarkObas, Sultan ROM, and stock Cyanogen OS ( Past 3 versions, including latest one). but the battery drain didn't stop.
So I decided to flash PA rom again, installed OpenGapps PICO (Only Google play service nothing else). I installed CPU spy and left it over night in Airplane mode. When I checked in the morning (after 7 hours) battery drain was of 25 %. This was surprising as nothing was running on my phone and only the minimum apps were installed. At this time, CPU spy showed no abnormal wake locks and was in Deep Sleep for almost 93% of the total time. The stock battery usage showed only Mobile Stand by and usage of 50 mAh.
Can you please help me figure out what is causing the battery drain.
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Hello Experts,
My Battery is draining like crazy. I tried almost everything to figure out what is the issue but could not figure out. Below are the details I gathered from the things I tried.
My battery started draining almost 30 % overnight. Initially I thought it was due to the Unofficial Marshmallow Rom, I could see Wi-Fi to be cause of this drain. Hence I tried different Roms (Cyanogen Mod, PA, DarkObas, Sultan ROM, and stock Cyanogen OS ( Past 3 versions, including latest one). but the battery drain didn't stop.
So I decided to flash PA rom again, installed OpenGapps PICO (Only Google play service nothing else). I installed CPU spy and left it over night in Airplane mode. When I checked in the morning (after 7 hours) battery drain was of 25 %. This was surprising as nothing was running on my phone and only the minimum apps were installed. At this time, CPU spy showed no abnormal wake locks and was in Deep Sleep for almost 93% of the total time. The stock battery usage showed only Mobile Stand by and usage of 50 mAh.
Can you please help me figure out what is causing the battery drain.
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Did you try to disable Location>Scanning>Wi-Fi scanning & Bluetooth Scanning? I had a similar situation and started using amplify + greenify on Resurrection Remix and now I have a very good battery life...
vigneshnallamad said:
Did you try to disable Location>Scanning>Wi-Fi scanning & Bluetooth Scanning? I had a similar situation and started using amplify + greenify on Resurrection Remix and now I have a very good battery life...
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Thank you for your reply.
Yes I already tried that. The strange thing is Battery drain is observed in Airplane mode also, while minimum apps installed(Stock apps with PA rom and Opengapps Pico package). Do you have any other suggestions.
It's really hard to judge what could be your issue, you can try different methods to find out who is the actual culprit.May be an app eating your battery or device might have nasty wakelocks,alarms etc or the battery itself would be damaged etc.
Anyways,Turn off ambient display, install BetterBatteryStats then run a full cycle and analyze entire stats of your battery, you'll get know the issue or at least a clue. If you couldn't find out the issue after BetterBatteryStats test then clean flash the a ROM(Recommends CandySix or Darkobas ) w/o GApp and give it a try
Firmware
Try a different firmware version. Here's a link :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/firmware-modem-oneplus-one-lollipop-t3300907
Sounds like your battery cannot hold its charge anymore.
How old is your OPO? May be your battery life is about to over.
And this battery drain suddenly started or gradually increased?
Try diagnosing by changing the Location settings to device only. It's some weird bug with COS and CM that's making it to the latest builds of 6.0.1 . I saw that older builds in May don't have this problem.
soralz said:
Sounds like your battery cannot hold its charge anymore.
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Thank you for the reply and sorry for the delayed response. I was getting New Battery
Unfortunately, Problem still exists even with the Brand New battery. Can any hardware issue cause this issue? It's certainly not Battery problem and not software problem as well.
JnkPanchal008 said:
How old is your OPO? May be your battery life is about to over.
And this battery drain suddenly started or gradually increased?
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Thank you for the reply and sorry for the delayed response. I was getting New Battery
Unfortunately, Problem still exists even with the Brand New battery. Can any hardware issue cause this issue? It's certainly not Battery problem and not software problem as well.
Does it also happen on lollipop roms!?
kbahtelia said:
Thank you for the reply and sorry for the delayed response. I was getting New Battery
Unfortunately, Problem still exists even with the Brand New battery. Can any hardware issue cause this issue? It's certainly not Battery problem and not software problem as well.
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You really should have taken my advice earlier and diagnose before making any decisions. If your battery truly was dying, then apps like 3C and Geekbench's battery test would've picked this up as they've linear-regression curve data from aggregate sources that you could've compared to. In your OP, you stated that you saw WiFi as a culprit, but did you also know that Google Play Services (depending on version) can do location requests up to 78 times within the hour on stock apps alone? I used to have this similar battery issue, but that was related to location-requests from Google Play Services that somehow propagated to other sources based on CM13's July commit, meaning that kernels also based on this could've been affected as well. What I eventually settled for, in the meantime, is using SultanXDA's 08082016 build and so far everything looks good on Wifi regarding what I expect for typical battery performance. If I learn something, I'll come back to report on it.
GuitarGuy96 said:
Does it also happen on lollipop roms!?
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Have not tried any Lollipop Rom since the issue started.
alpha-niner64 said:
You really should have taken my advice earlier and diagnose before making any decisions. If your battery truly was dying, then apps like 3C and Geekbench's battery test would've picked this up as they've linear-regression curve data from aggregate sources that you could've compared to. In your OP, you stated that you saw WiFi as a culprit, but did you also know that Google Play Services (depending on version) can do location requests up to 78 times within the hour on stock apps alone? I used to have this similar battery issue, but that was related to location-requests from Google Play Services that somehow propagated to other sources based on CM13's July commit, meaning that kernels also based on this could've been affected as well. What I eventually settled for, in the meantime, is using SultanXDA's 08082016 build and so far everything looks good on Wifi regarding what I expect for typical battery performance. If I learn something, I'll come back to report on it.
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I did took your advice and checked Location services. The problem occurs even with Wi-fi, 3G and Location desiabled. Also in Airplane mode with almost nothing installed (only gapps PICO package and CPUSpy)
i suggest trying old version it may help
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Have not tried any Lollipop Rom since the issue started.
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You might wanna try that. Possibly MM eating through. I still use Lollipop too. I find no need for MM yet. Also MM feels anti-dev to me for some reason :/ Needs all workarounds for things that were previously much easy to do. Oh well. Try Lollipop and see if it helps? It'd have been my first step for troubleshooting before buying a new battery
JnkPanchal008 said:
How old is your OPO? May be your battery life is about to over.
And this battery drain suddenly started or gradually increased?
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GuitarGuy96 said:
You might wanna try that. Possibly MM eating through. I still use Lollipop too. I find no need for MM yet. Also MM feels anti-dev to me for some reason :/ Needs all workarounds for things that were previously much easy to do. Oh well. Try Lollipop and see if it helps? It'd have been my first step for troubleshooting before buying a new battery
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Yesterday, I left my phone in Recovery mode (TWRP 3.0.2.0). In less then 5 hours, I observed battery drain of 20%. Same amount of drain is observed when running MM rom. I don't think changing to Lollipop will help. To me it looks like some hardware issue, can any hardware beside battery cause such issue?
I recently did a factory reset on my galaxy s4, and when the screen is off it loses about 10+% an hour. It shouldn't be losing more than a tenth of that idle, at most. Using GSam battery monitor app, the vast majority of the battery is being consumed by Kernel(Android OS) and Android System. What can I do to stop this, please? Thanks for any help.
About time to buy a new battery
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About time to buy a new battery
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This wasn't happening before I formatted my phone, which leads me to believe it's a software problem.
Try to use one of those battery stats resetting apps
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change_my_fcking_password said:
plz help
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If the battery was good and suddenly began doing this, I would try to reflash stock. If you are already on stock, still reflash stock from a PC and see if it is improved. But battery drain while the phone is off usually isn't a software problem and is usually an indicator of hardware failure, typically the battery itself. You can try cleaning the pins on the phone where the battery connects. Also, try to lay the battery on a (near) perfect, flat surface and see if it is beginning to inflate even the slightest bit.
Crossvxm said:
If the battery was good and suddenly began doing this, I would try to reflash stock. If you are already on stock, still reflash stock from a PC and see if it is improved. But battery drain while the phone is off usually isn't a software problem and is usually an indicator of hardware failure, typically the battery itself. You can try cleaning the pins on the phone where the battery connects. Also, try to lay the battery on a (near) perfect, flat surface and see if it is beginning to inflate even the slightest bit.
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The thing is it says battery usage is 80% app usage, which is mostly android system and kernel OS, while phone is off.
How do I reflash stock from a PC? Is it the same as doing a Factory data reset on the phone?
Thanks again