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I am having a SGS asia version with latest firmware.
i have rooted it with su access and using process manager to kill those unwanted application (google map, double clock, and others....) running from behind.
but after certain time (range from 1 hour to 2 hours), those unwanted application will load back and take up the memory again. I have to manually killed them again and the remaining RAM is reduced in the process.
Is anyone facing similar problem ?
anyone know how to permanently stop this ? is there any program in the Samsung that keep summoning those application ?
Thank you.
Ya, I've this problem too, but mine is the stock firmware.I've no idea what causes those applications to launch themselves.
yes, a few of my friend also facing this problem. that is why i am thinking is some professional here can help us on this question.
Thanks
If you have rooted your phone, download this app called startup manager from market place, then disable these apps from the start up process. Viola, no more.
Seifer1975 said:
If you have rooted your phone, download this app called startup manager from market place, then disable these apps from the start up process. Viola, no more.
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Is this startup manager for choosing which applications to auto start during soft reset only though?
You might also want to give "automatic task killer" from the market a go too, first app I would install after flashing roms.
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If you have rooted your phone, download this app called startup manager from market place, then disable these apps from the start up process. Viola, no more.
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I have installed startup manager application and already disable them at the startup. But they still coming back once a while when the phone is running......
I have successfully stop them from launch at the starting but after a while, it keep coming back. What is more irritating is once i kill them, they launch again 1-2 hours later....
i am thinking , is there any application running underground which keep "calling" them ?
After reading the help section on the system panel I installed, apparently the way android works is by loading up apps that it thinks you might need, so that when you do open them, they're already sitting there ready. system panel shows you a list of apps that are open on your phone and running, open but in the background, and those that on standby. Most task killers only show all these as being open, when they actually all aren't. The maker of the app strongly advises against continually killing all apps, unless any of them have a problem. Anyway, that's just what I read.
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After reading the help section on the system panel I installed, apparently the way android works is by loading up apps that it thinks you might need, so that when you do open them, they're already sitting there ready. system panel shows you a list of apps that are open on your phone and running, open but in the background, and those that on standby. Most task killers only show all these as being open, when they actually all aren't. The maker of the app strongly advises against continually killing all apps, unless any of them have a problem. Anyway, that's just what I read.
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I see. Now it does explains everything. Sounds factual to me, if you've read it in the help section of the system panel. Thank you.
Facts are so important in problem solving.
Can you tell us which apps are started every hours like that ??
On my side I would like to know if the following app can be killed :
* Device management
* DRM protected content storage
* SNS
*com.sec.android.app.samsungapps.una
* com.sec.android.providers.downloads
*mobile AP settings
* Mobile Tracker settings
* Log provider
* My upload
* Settings
thanks
So ill go into my system panel and kill all apps. Ill have about 160mb of memory free. Then the launcher obviously restarts and system panel and my widgets all start back up, but what i dint hnderstand is why do thi gs like google voice or the music player start up in the background if i havent even used them? They start up almost instantly....
How can i make sure **** stays off?
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Start up manager or similar from the market. Take care though, if you block something that system wants to be launched, it may keep attempting to launch it, leading to high battery consumption
Some app include a service, which they are executed in background. If the service is maually stopped, android can launch it again.
There are many application on the market which stop periodically these app. The point is that if it has a service, there is a reason, and by stopping it, you can obtain a strange comportment.
By example, in the first version of Android, gtalk was used for the authentification on android market, it is very strange but it was like that. The user was not informed of this link which was a kind of transparent. So if you stopped gtalk, you were not able to go on the market.
Do you need a lot of RAM? If yes uninstall the application you don t use, but I advise you to not stop mannually or automatically the application on your phone.
I guess thats how android functions as such. I tried stopping these programs so many times using apps from the market, but it starts again n few minutes. So its like we are wasting our time trying to kill apps.
Autostarts and/or Android Optimizer will stop any unwanted apps from running constantly. Works for me but just make sure you know what you are doing so you don't stop something you need (as described above)..
A friend recently introduced me to App's Ops, a cool app that lets you set individual app level permissions. I wanted the ability to limit certain applications from accessing my location i.e Facebook.
One thing that really surprised me though is the stock dialer not only has access to location but constantly, and I mean constantly fetches location, as a matter of fact every time I go into the App Ops it says updated 0 mins ago.
Why does the phone dialer even need location access? Is it perhaps for e-911? Is this a bug a on my phone? Any info would be appreciated.
/Bump anyone?
Also curious
I have a rooted Galaxy S4 with 4.4.2 Android installed. I installed the app "Uninstaller" and have uninstalled LOADS of crapware off my phone. Everything was working great until I started using the GPS. It was working and then while I was driving it just said that the GPS signal was lost and no matter how long I waited it wouldn't get a signal again. After rebooting the phone the GPS worked again but only for a little bit.
I have the following apps left on my phone according to the Uninstaller app:
Application Installer
AutoPreconfig
BadgeProvider
Calculator
Calendar Storage
Camera
ClipboardSaveService
Clock
com.android.browser.provider
com.android.sharedstoragebackup
com.qualcom.interfacepermissions
com.qualcom.timeservice
com.sec.android.app.keyguard
com.sec.android.app.Smartclip
com.sec.phone
CSC
DeviceKeyString
Documents
Email
Exchange services
External storage
FilterProvider
Fused location
Gallery
HTML viewer
KeyguardBackuprestore
KeyguardTestActivity
KLMS Agent
LocationServices
LogsProvider
MTP application
MyScript Resource Manager
OM customise
PacProcessor
Perso
PopupuiReceiver
Preconfig
ProxyHandler
RILnotifier
S Planner
Security storage
SecurityManagerService
Security mode RIL
SetDefault Launcher
Shell
SilentLogging
SmartcardManager
SmartcardService
Syscope
Task Manager
Tasks provider
TcpdumpService
Tethering Automation
USB settings
USBSettings
User dictionary
As you can see I am a minimalist kind of person and have obviously deleted something I shouldn't have! Therefore, does anyone know what apps I need to restore to get the GPS to work 100% again? I have kept a backup of all the apps I deleted in Uninstaller so I can restore them...once I know which ones need restoring.
Can anyone assist please?
Provide a list of all the apps you removed, as it may be easier to pinpoint which app needs to be replaced.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Provide a list of all the apps you removed, as it may be easier to pinpoint which app needs to be replaced.
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Theres 230 of them, is there an easy way to get a list of them?
If on Windows, open a command prompt. Navigate using the CD command to the directory where the apps are stored. Type "dir /b > filelist.txt" and post as an attachment here.
For example, if the apps were stored on external drive G, in the directory Android/Apps, you would type the following commands:
Code:
G:
cd android
cd apps
dir /b > filelist.txt
If the apps are stored on your MicroSD card, you'll need to transfer them to the computer, as the command prompt doesn't understand the media transfer protocol used for the connection between the computer and the S4.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
If on Windows, open a command prompt. Navigate using the CD command to the directory where the apps are stored. Type "dir /b > filelist.txt" and post as an attachment here.
For example, if the apps were stored on external drive G, in the directory Android/Apps, you would type the following commands:
Code:
G:
cd android
cd apps
dir /b > filelist.txt
If the apps are stored on your MicroSD card, you'll need to transfer them to the computer, as the command prompt doesn't understand the media transfer protocol used for the connection between the computer and the S4.
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Very helpful, thank you! I have attached the file list.
Odd that you removed the Play Store (Phonesky.apk), Google Services Framework (GMS_Core.apk), and Google Search (Velvet.apk) from the device. I personally would recommend restoring all three to /system, even if you have updated versions in /data/app. Many device functions are routed through the Google Services Framework or the Google Search app, or both. And having a version of the Play Store to fall back upon in case an update becomes corrupt is never a bad thing.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Odd that you removed the Play Store (Phonesky.apk), Google Services Framework (GMS_Core.apk), and Google Search (Velvet.apk) from the device. I personally would recommend restoring all three to /system, even if you have updated versions in /data/app. Many device functions are routed through the Google Services Framework or the Google Search app, or both. And having a version of the Play Store to fall back upon in case an update becomes corrupt is never a bad thing.
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I don't use any Google services and all my apps are installed manually by installing the APK file. I don't even use Google Maps for GPS. Currently I use CoPilot for my GPS stuff. Surely these Google apps wouldn't affect CoPilot from functioning correctly? I'd really like to keep this a Google app free phone (oh the irony considering Android is Google!)
My guess is that I have uninstalled a core system app that the GPS software needs. Its just weird how CoPilot will be happily working away giving me directions and then BAM...it doesn't have a GPS fix to the satellite anymore and the directions stop!
Well, unless you try them you won't know. You can always take them back out.
I'd have to take a look at my list of apps and see what I kept that you didn't, as I don't have problems with the GPS suddenly up and quitting.
EDIT: I've posted mine below, which is based on FailoFAX's debloat list. There's way too many files you removed that I didn't to make a judgment call here. So I'm going to recommend two ROMs for you to solve your problem.
1. Install a Google Play Edition ROM and take the time to remove the Google Apps. This is good if you want dead stock Android without any added customization whatsoever.
2. Install CyanogenMod or another AOSP ROM, and don't download or install the Google Apps package. You get some custom features not found in the GPE ROM, but also don't have to pick through the system and remove the Google Apps.
I'm recommending either of these above because the ROMs are essentially barebones as is, and need little or no customization to be useful.
Thanks for the helpful reply. I'll try restoring the Google apps this evening when I get home from work.
Appreciate the ROM recommendations but I (shock horror) like TouchWiz (I like the interface) so thats why I use the official Samsung ROM and the remove all the crapware.
I've had a look at quite a few of those debloat lists and some are quite useful but theres always apps that no-one knows what they do.
I think if I reset my phone again I shouldn't remove so many system apps!
There are plenty of things to like about Touchwiz. The launcher isn't one of them, which is why I use Google Now or Apex.
The debloat lists here in the forums tend to provide the right balance between functionality and size. For example, my list above netted me a 700MB savings. Especially as much of it is bloatware.
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There are plenty of things to like about Touchwiz. The launcher isn't one of them, which is why I use Google Now or Apex.
The debloat lists here in the forums tend to provide the right balance between functionality and size. For example, my list above netted me a 700MB savings. Especially as much of it is bloatware.
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Yeah, after deleting all the bloat on my phone it came to about 950MB!
So I restored Google Play Store, Services Framework and Search and I have done two trips today with the GPS working 100% (ie: it didn't stop working while giving me directions).
Now I am going to start removing the Google apps one at a time and then test the GPS again after uninstalling it to see what is causing the GPS to fail.
One issue though. After reinstalling the 3 Google apps I get this error message after I have entered the SIM PIN and the home screen appears:
Unfortunately, Google Services Framework has stopped.
All I can do it tap ok a few times and it then goes away.
After uninstalling Googe Play the GPS stopped working again halfway to my destination today. I think I am going to have to reset the phone again as there are other strange things that are happening on the phone (phone calls sometimes don't connect).
What is the best way to reset the phone back to the factory ROM? Do I just do a reset from settings? Or should I rather use TWRP?
You can do a factory reset through TWRP, but starting from scratch with a ROM flashed via Odin might be best. Of course you'd have to debloat again.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
You can do a factory reset through TWRP, but starting from scratch with a ROM flashed via Odin might be best. Of course you'd have to debloat again.
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Ok, so last night I did a complete factory reset and reflashed the original ROM. I've used the GPS twice today and so far it has been fine. I'll test it some more this weekend. I have uninstalled about 174 apps.
One thing I noticed today. Usually when I would receive a call I didn't want to take I would turn the phone upside down and the phone would stop vibrating. Now when I turn the phone upside down it continues to vibrate. Is there a setting I need to change to enable this feature? Or have I uninstalled an APK I shouldn't have? I have attached the most recent list of apps I have uninstalled using Uninstaller.
Thanks for any help!
In this case it seems you don't have the mute or pause turned on in settings. Go to Settings > My Device > Motions and gestures > Motion > Turn Over > Mute/Pause to enable it. If that's not working, try replacing SensorService2_5.apk.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
In this case it seems you don't have the mute or pause turned on in settings. Go to Settings > My Device > Motions and gestures > Motion > Turn Over > Mute/Pause to enable it. If that's not working, try replacing SensorService2_5.apk.
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That did the trick (ie: going in to settings and enabling...I didn't restore the APK)! Strange, I have never set that before when I was using Jellybean!
I went for a long drive today with the GPS turned on all the time and it worked all the way.
When first running Uninstaller on KitKat/Galaxy S4 there are 283 apps. I currently have 110 apps installed (so I have uninstalled 173) so its looking good so far. Time will tell though! I would like to delete another 20 or so apps but I want to do it in a more controlled manner! The next batch I would like to uninstall are:
Automation Test
BadgeProvider
BandService
Beaming Service
Camera Test
com.android.backupconfirm
com.android.providers.partnerbookmarks
com.sec.android.FlashBarService
com.sec.android.app.sbrowsertry
com.sec.android.sviewcover
ConfigUpdater
DeviceTest
Face Unlock
LocalFOTA
PickupTutorial
RCPComponents
ringtonebackup
Screen Mirroring
ShareShotService
WlanTest
Any of these a bad idea to uninstall?
Hello!
I love this phone, still awesome. BUT!!! Why we bough the phone if google play services eat all battery. I removed a lot google app, i used ,Disable Services" app, disable all location servies only use GPS hardware when need. And still GOOOGLE F***ING services draining my battery.
Can somebody create a lollipop image without GAPPS? Please
BTW i use Lollipop RU.
Sorry about my english and this but i'm very angry.
Thanks
I can't say I happen to have the same issue.
Have you tried a factory reset?
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Yes, i tried. Yesterday night i flashed the phone, i was very angry
Doze Google Play Services
Android 6 has the Doze feature that can help you, it makes the system use lot less resources when the phone is idle.
But some remarks about Doze.
1 - Doze works, but only when idle for more than an hour and at night, so you should use "Greenify" to force Doze being used more often.
2 - Ads are constantly being downloaded on the background so use "My Android Tools Pro", to disable ads, on apps and some services you don't want/need.
3 - Use "Amplify" it helps.
4 - DOZE GOOGLE SERVICES - This is what you looking for. Yes it's possible, Google made Android have Google Play Services in a whitelist so it never goes Dozed, so you need to change it, you can see more about that in here https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-enable-doze-google-play-services-t3608783, just install the "EnableDozeGMS+_TWRP - by VR25.zip", install it with the recovery.
Obvious for all this you will need root, custom recovery and xposed framework.
I also use "Intelli 3G" to fast change from 2g on standby to 3g when I really needed it.
"3g Watchdog" to see which apps are downloading stuff without telling me, so I can use "My Android Tools Pro" to disable those ad sevices or just make "Greenify" force sleep them...
Best luck
You can also use the YotaPhone without Google Services, you just use a Chinese version of the YotaPhone 2 ROM, Chinese ROM are smaller because China Government prohibits Android being released with Google Services by default, but remember there's plenty of apps that use google services for sync, location and web browsing etc, so some apps will not work without it, but it's possible of course. Just keep/change the correct radio for your YotaPhone Model, YD206 or YD201 etc, replace the radio folder from one ROM to the other and flash the ROM.
Hello!
Me again I don't know why but sometimes when i restart my phone (lollipop), in the settings menu ,,Data Usage" won't start or disappear. And i think that time my phone draining slower. Maybe. Is it possible? Is it possible to disable or delete Data Usage function?
Thanks
Hmmm, Data Usage should be a passive counter, not activly draining battery.
Unfortunately it's not easy to disable the counters function.