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On android, is it possible to have an app limit another apps of certain services? (like for example if i had "app A" that i wanted, but it requires gps or access to my contacts to install, and (app A) has nothing to do with those [like if a wallpaper app required access to my personal info], would it be possible for an app to limit "App A" of services and take away its ability to use the undesired service?) i guess im asking if this is plausible or not... If it is, Do you know anyone who would develop this app? I bet i could get a lot of users supporting this idea.... (A lot of Users want the ability to do this) I bet this app would be a huge hit, and a must have for most knowledgeable users...
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There already is one. The power control widget that comes with your phone can turn gps on/off, along with brightness, WiFi, and account syncing along with a few other things.
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I literally mean limiting service to an app.
So more like a firewall for apps to stop them accessing different resources?
Well, yeah. When I first used the power control widget, my GPS, WiFi, and Sync was on because of Google Maps. Occasionally, when I download a new app, GPS or WiFi will turn on and I just turn them off. You could also try whitelist/blacklist apps which might be able to help you.
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So I was browsing through settings, and I found "Settings" -> "Data Manager" -> "Data Meter" displays a nice little daily graph of data use.
Then if you press "Show usage by activity" you get a nice little pie chart.
But oh noes! The "Gallery" app is using 40% of my dataz???
Why does an app for storing photos use a greater percentage of my data than "Browser" and "Touchdown" combined???
[paranoia]Unless... it is uploading my photos somewhere. Is Motorola/T-Mo archiving all my photos so that they can data mine them later?[/paranoia]
Gallery settings shed no light on this. Ideas on how to figure this out?
Oh damn, u are right. What is it doing?. Syncing photos to Picasa or getting Picasa photos to mobile? me no techie but thats the only option I can think form Google point of view.
And i noticed Connected Music Player using equally as much data as the gallery. Wonder how this is happening. I dont listen to anything like podcast or internet radio with the player. Hmmm. .
Count me in. I noticed that some days ago, still no clue :-\
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Also, I should point out that I have had GPS turned off the entire time, and geotagging turned off on the camera.
Someone who has a bit more skill with the Shark for Root and Shark Reader apps can probably figure out what packets are going where and why... anyone?
EDIT: I'm blocking the app with DroidWall, a free firewall software. If you use it, make sure to set it to "blacklist" at the top and then check the two boxes next to "Media Storage, OMA Download, etc. etc." which is the one with "Gallery" in it. Then press the settings button on your Defy and choose "save rules". You can also enable logging - I am going to check back in a couple of days and see what the log says...
Hmm, I would be interested in checking this out for myself, but I don't even have "data meter" in the data manager menu. The only option I see is "data delivery."
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Hmm, I would be interested in checking this out for myself, but I don't even have "data meter" in the data manager menu. The only option I see is "data delivery."
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Same here, no such "meter" in mine. My phone is a T-Mobile USA branded phone. Was it deleted from later builds? BTW there is a discussion this same gallery/data issue on one of the Motorola forums.
Yeah I should mention that I am running the Android 2.1 firmware v.2.34 european rom on my USA phone. T-Mo cripples a lot of the features that let you see what your phone is doing for the USA phones.
Question is, are these "- manager" apps reliable? A few days ago, when I was looking into Battery manager what had been using my power, Maps was hands down the biggest juice stealer at about 50%. "Mobile standby", "Phone Idle" and "Display" was somewhere between 4-25% each. I had my gps disabled, no Latitude, no navigation no nothing.
Now, however, Maps doesn´t even show up in that list, and I haven´t been making any adjustments, apart from a different launcher.
finally I found someone with the same problem with me.. I've already posted about this thing a few days ago in a different forum with no results..
and someone directs me here..
still hopes for some solutions.. my defy is a tmobile us defy using 2.34 central europe no-blur rom..
I haven't used any data connection since the revelation of gallery data abuse...
about batery meter.. it's true that maps would use most of the battery juice even though you just use it under 10 minutes... because if you turn them on, the most power drawn was from the display.. the GPS and data comes next.. so if in 2 days you don't use any of those.. the maps battery usage will certainly vanished from the battery meter..
On the USA phone (and probably others) go into the INFO menu: dialer > *#*#4636#*#* > usage statistics > usage time/launch count/application name. Not the same as a pie chart for actual data used but it does seem to show what's being used and for how long and how often.
Then on the menu just before "usage statistics" there is "battery history" which has several selections including "network usage". If you tap on one of the applications listed you will get another menu that gives Bytes received and Bytes sent. The initial settings are:
"Since last unplugged"
"Total since boot"
"Total in all time"
Thanks for the tip scrannel, I had forgotten about that.
So if I go to *#*#4636#*#*, then "battery history", then "network usage", then "Total in all time" my number one application is "Media". If I click on that, then it turns out that it is the same application package that contains Gallery - so that is why Gallery shows up on the pie chart.
The application package includes:
DRM Protected Content Storage
Download Manager
Gallery
Media Storage
MediaSync
OMA Download
com.motorola.android.oma.drm
com.motorola.android.wmdrm.dla
I would suspect that it is the Download Manager that is the culprit here. So I would assume that "Media" (aka "Gallery") is huge because of all of the files I have downloaded, and Browser is the separate list just web pages / html.
I particularly like the category: "Total in all time"... like Android use going back to the Big Bang.
I asked support about the 'Gallery' issue a few weeks ago. Their final reply, after some investigation was:
"We have checked this with our technicians and would like to say that this reading of data transferred in not accurate in the phone software. We have reported it to our engineers and it should be corrected in a future update.
For now, we can advise that to check the amount of data transferred you use the phone's data manager or some application from the Android Marketplace."
So, they say the data manager is not accurate and then advise you to use the data manager. There you have it.
One suggestion that makes some sense is that all the pictures downloaded in FB, Twitter etc. notifications are counted in the 'Gallery'.
They said their data manager was not accurate and that you may find a better one on the market.
Don't know about gallery, but connect music player will use some data for lyrics and other info....though maybe not as much as is being reported by what could be a bad data manager.
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Possible solution
Hi there, just got myself a Defy and have skimmed through this thread.
I think I MAY have solved this issue, though won't know for sure for at least a couple of hours (time to check usage etc)
If you go into settings, accounts, there will be your motoblur, google, facebook and any others you might have added.
If you stay on the list of accounts screen and tap menu, you will see a tab that says "picture source" Mine was selected as facebook so I deleted that account from there.
I am using a different facebook app now, just the standard facebook for android from the market that usually comes with the htc phones.
I have only just changed this setting so won't know for sure until it's been changed for a while.
It does mean that you won't be able to use the social networking app that comes with the phone unless you can set it to NOT use it as the picture source. I couldn't change mine so just deleted that account. You can still use facebook widgets, just don't use the internal social networking app.
Hope this is of some use to you all.
Alison
Gallery app just took 305mb in less than an hour.
Just had this problem with my new SGS3.. By chance I had a limit set on my data, but it still download in background 305mb.. can't find what it is. The "Sync Google Photos" and "Sync Picasa Web Albums" did not ran at all today so it's not the cause.. but I must find why it download that much on mobile data, when I was all night long on wifi so it should have download what it needs last night.
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Just had this problem with my new SGS3.. By chance I had a limit set on my data, but it still download in background 305mb.. can't find what it is. The "Sync Google Photos" and "Sync Picasa Web Albums" did not ran at all today so it's not the cause.. but I must find why it download that much on mobile data, when I was all night long on wifi so it should have download what it needs last night.
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Please post your problem in s3 thread because of different hardware and software. You wont get a solution here for this problem.
So my advice, post it in a s3 thread to get the best help.
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Please post your problem in s3 thread because of different hardware and software. You wont get a solution here for this problem.
So my advice, post it in a s3 thread to get the best help.
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Yeah, sorry about that. I noticed after posting, and then post it in general Q/A.
Thanks
The Vulnerability
In recent updates to some of its devices, HTC introduces a suite of logging tools that collected information. Lots of information. LOTS. Whatever the reason was, whether for better understanding problems on users' devices, easier remote analysis, corporate evilness - it doesn't matter. If you, as a company, plant these information collectors on a device, you better be DAMN sure the information they collect is secured and only available to privileged services or the user, after opting in.
That is not the case. What Trevor found is only the tip of the iceberg - we are all still digging deeper - but currently any app on affected devices that requests a single android.permission.INTERNET (which is normal for any app that connects to the web or shows ads) can get its hands on:
the list of user accounts, including email addresses and sync status for each
last known network and GPS locations and a limited previous history of locations
phone numbers from the phone log
SMS data, including phone numbers and encoded text (not sure yet if it's possible to decode it, but very likely)
system logs (both kernel/dmesg and app/logcat), which includes everything your running apps do and is likely to include email addresses, phone numbers, and other private info
Normally, applications get access to only what is allowed by the permissions they request, so when you install a simple, innocent-looking new game from the Market that only asks for the INTERNET permission (to submit scores online, for example), you don't expect it to read your phone log or list of emails.
But that's not all. After looking at the huge amount of data (the log file was 3.5MB on my EVO 3D) that is vulnerable to apps exploiting this vulnerability all day, I found the following is also exposed (granted, some of which may be already available to any app via the Android APIs):
active notifications in the notification bar, including notification text
build number, bootloader version, radio version, kernel version
network info, including IP addresses
full memory info
CPU info
file system info and free space on each partition
running processes
current snapshot/stacktrace of not only every running process but every running thread
list of installed apps, including permissions used, user ids, versions, and more
system properties/variables
currently active broadcast listeners and history of past broadcasts received
currently active content providers
battery info and status, including charging/wake lock history
and more
Let me put it another way. By using only the INTERNET permission, any app can also gain at least the following:
ACCESS_COARSE_LOCATION Allows an application to access coarse (e.g., Cell-ID, WiFi) location
ACCESS_FINE_LOCATION Allows an application to access fine (e.g., GPS) location
ACCESS_LOCATION_EXTRA_COMMANDS Allows an application to access extra location provider commands
ACCESS_WIFI_STATE Allows applications to access information about Wi-Fi networks
BATTERY_STATS Allows an application to collect battery statistics
DUMP Allows an application to retrieve state dump information from system services.
GET_ACCOUNTS Allows access to the list of accounts in the Accounts Service
GET_PACKAGE_SIZE Allows an application to find out the space used by any package.
GET_TASKS Allows an application to get information about the currently or recently running tasks: a thumbnail representation of the tasks, what activities are running in it, etc.
READ_LOGS Allows an application to read the low-level system log files.
READ_SYNC_SETTINGS Allows applications to read the sync settings
READ_SYNC_STATS Allows applications to read the sync stats
Theoretically, it may be possible to clone a device using only a small subset of the information leaked here.
I'd like to reiterate that the only reason the data is leaking left and right is because HTC set their snooping environment up this way. It's like leaving your keys under the mat and expecting nobody who finds them to unlock the door. For a more technical explanation, see the section below.
Additionally, and the implications of this could end up being insignificant, yet still very suspicious, HTC also decided to add an app called androidvncserver.apk to their Android OS installations. If you're not familiar with the definition of VNC, it is basically a remote access server. On the EVO 3D, it was present from the start and updated in the latest OTA. The app doesn't get started by default, but who knows what and who can trigger it and potentially get access to your phone remotely? I'm sure we'll know soon enough - HTC, care to tell us what it's doing here?
Technical Details
In addition to Carrier IQ (CIQ) that was planted by HTC/Sprint and prompted all kinds of questions a while ago, HTC also included another app called HtcLoggers.apk. This app is capable of collecting all kinds of data, as I mentioned above, and then... provide it to anyone who asks for it by opening a local port. Yup, not just HTC, but anyone who connects to it, which happens to be any app with the INTERNET permission. Ironically, because a given app has the INTERNET permission, it can also send all the data off to a remote server, killing 2 birds with one stone permission.
In fact, HtcLogger has a whole interface which accepts a variety of commands (such as the handy :help: that shows all available commands). Oh yeah - and no login/password are required to access said interface.
Furthermore, it's worth noting that HtcLogger tries to use root to dump even more data, such as WiMax state, and may attempt to run something called htcserviced - at least this code is present in the source:
/system/xbin/su 0 /data/data/com.htc.loggers/bin/htcserviced
HtcLoggers is only one of the services that is collecting data, and we haven't even gotten to the bottom of what else it can do, let alone what the other services are capable of doing. But hey - I think you'll agree that this is already more than enough.
Patching The Vulnerability
... is not possible without either root or an update from HTC. If you do root, we recommend immediate removal of Htcloggers (you can find it at /system/app/HtcLoggers.apk).
Stay safe and don't download suspicious apps. Of course, even quality-looking apps can silently capture and send off this data, but the chance of that is lower.
Affected Phones
Note: Only stock Sense firmware is affected - if you're running an AOSP-based ROM like CyanogenMod, you are safe.
EVO 4G
EVO 3D
Thunderbolt
EVO Shift 4G? (thanks, pm)
MyTouch 4G Slide? (thanks, Michael)
the upcoming Vigor? (thanks, bjn714)
some Sensations? (thanks, Nick)
View 4G? (thanks, Pat)
the upcoming Kingdom? (thanks, Pat)
most likely others - we haven't verified them yet, but you can help us by downloading the proof of concept above and running the APK
HTC's Response
After finding the vulnerability, Trevor contacted HTC on September 24th and received no real response for five business days, after which he released this information to the public (as per RF full disclosure Policy). In my experience, lighting fire under someone's ass in public makes things move a whole lot faster, which is why responsible disclosure is a norm in the security industry. (This is where we come in.)
As far as we know, HTC is now looking into the issue, but no statement has been issued yet.
HTC, you got yourself into this mess, and it's now up to you to climb out of the hole as fast as possible, in your own interest.
The ball is in your court.
Credit
ANDROID POLICE
Huge thank you to Trevor Eckhart who found the vulnerability and Justin Case for working with us today digging deeper.
Hi there, I need help, someone is consistently hacking into my phone, htc evo 4g, they are penetration testers and pc savvy, currently I cant login to the phn for trying to do a factory reset. They kept intercepting me and now my password does not work. Who knows maybe they changed it on their side. I wrote down everything I saw. I was seeing all these process running for the same app. in my applications. My phone was getting hot, freezes but its people that live in my apt complex and at work. can you help?
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Hi there, I need help, someone is consistently hacking into my phone, htc evo 4g, they are penetration testers and pc savvy, currently I cant login to the phn for trying to do a factory reset. They kept intercepting me and now my password does not work. Who knows maybe they changed it on their side. I wrote down everything I saw. I was seeing all these process running for the same app. in my applications. My phone was getting hot, freezes but its people that live in my apt complex and at work. can you help?
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Is your device rooted?
I used root explorer and removed the HtcLoggers.apk and other than the forced close loop that removing it caused (requiring me to remove the battery), after rebooting all seems to be working fine.
EDIT: Actually I didn't just delete HtcLoggers.apk but moved it to a safe location on the SD Card in case there was a problem and it needed to be restored. I highly suggest you do this instead of just deleting it, or better yet, a nandroid backup.
there are a few good ROMS out there that have the ICQ loggers removed already.
Do we really need three threads on the front page about the same thing?
I know most of the things to improve battery but I want to know if anyone knows of other ways to improve battery. I have a s7 edge now on G935U. I know rooting can improve battery life but I can't find a root method for my phone on 6.0.1 and I don't want to risk bricking it unless I know for sure it would work.
What I do to Improve battery
Disabled auto sync
Disabled auto update
Disabled all bloatware with package disabler
AOD is off
Never keep WiFi on during sleep
I know about black screen or dark themes
Adjusting brightness
Turning off location
Turning off Bluetooth
Turning off WiFi
But really what else can I really do? I feel like my battery life on my s7 edge sucks. Any help?
I always logout of facebook, no matter what phone I have, seems to help keep that battery muncher of an app under control. Auto display brightness, pocket detection and dark themes. I get about 22 hours out of my phone on a charge with medium use. 3 to 4 hours screen on.
I always use AoD, have never noticed much of a difference in battery with or without it.
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Download Package Disabler Pro from the play store.
Use it to disable any system apps you don't use. Focus on the ones that are in "pink text" Also Don't ever use any Facebook apps. (Facebook, FB messenger, FB Page Manager, FB contacts etc) I delete the data from all of them force stop them and disable them first thing. They do a ton of shady stuff in the background that eats your battery and disguises itself as "Android System" on your battery usage page.
I wish Samsung would stop including them in the Firmware all together. If you have to use Facebook just go to the website usering the Samsung browser app with Crystal ad blocking on and block the cookies. Facebook is a shady company even just going to the website from your phone can drastically impact its performance from all of the trackers they install on your device. IMO the entire Facebook app suite should be flagged as spyware by Google.
Next look for AT&T software. There is a tone of it. You can just search for att in the search bar and it will pull it all up. AT&T like to gather a TON of your information and usage stats in the background as well. This too is disguised as "Android System" battery drain even though it is not. Any apps branded AT&T that you don't use get rid of them.
Also in the case of this device, there is No REAL root process. There is an ENG BOOT root, but its super buggy and generally terrible for battery life.
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Download Package Disabler Pro from the play store.
Use it to disable any system apps you don't use. Focus on the ones that are in "pink text" Also Don't ever use any Facebook apps. (Facebook, FB messenger, FB Page Manager, FB contacts etc) I delete the data from all of them force stop them and disable them first thing. They do a ton of shady stuff in the background that eats your battery and disguises itself as "Android System" on your battery usage page.
I wish Samsung would stop including them in the Firmware all together. If you have to use Facebook just go to the website usering the Samsung browser app with Crystal ad blocking on and block the cookies. Facebook is a shady company even just going to the website from your phone can drastically impact its performance from all of the trackers they install on your device. IMO the entire Facebook app suite should be flagged as spyware by Google.
Next look for AT&T software. There is a tone of it. You can just search for att in the search bar and it will pull it all up. AT&T like to gather a TON of your information and usage stats in the background as well. This too is disguised as "Android System" battery drain even though it is not. Any apps branded AT&T that you don't use get rid of them.
Also in the case of this device, there is No REAL root process. There is an ENG BOOT root, but its super buggy and generally terrible for battery life.
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I just unlocked my phone no more att. Unless there I still other stuff? Any other suggestions?
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I just unlocked my phone no more att. Unless there I still other stuff? Any other suggestions?
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FACEBOOK All Facebook apps (FB Pages, FB Messenger, FB app, FB System setting, etc.)
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FACEBOOK All Facebook apps (FB Pages, FB Messenger, FB app, FB System setting, etc.)
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How can use messenger on the Internet without downloading the app?
Good battery life or? How can I check my SOT?
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How can use messenger on the Internet without downloading the app?
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Use an Android browser that allows you to "request the desktop page" and you can get to FB Messages w/o the app.
I prefer Firefox with suitable blocker plugins installed, optionally in Private mode.
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How can use messenger on the Internet without downloading the app?
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Use the chrome app and "request desktop site" from settings.
Anyone know why my stand by time is taking 20%?
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Use an Android browser that allows you to "request the desktop page" and you can get to FB Messages w/o the app.
I prefer Firefox with suitable blocker plugins installed, optionally in Private mode.
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Swipe Pro for Facebook found in Google Play Store is another good alternative to using FB apps
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My biggest tip for improving battery life is staying off of large Wifi networks (i.e. school, airports, work) . The constant LAN wakeups will kill your battery.
-Turn off location when not in use (I use tasker to auto turn on/off locstion when bluetooth connects/disconnects in my car)
- i disabled carrierIQ using System Tuner, which seems to have helped (requires root). The EZ Package Disabler Rootless method did not disable carrierIQ for me.
Disabling "bloat" apps didnt really help much with battery life IMHO
I get about 4.5-6hrs SOT. The eng_boot root method is really not as bad as everyone says it is after you apply all the fixes that are floating around. (V15 fix zip, L speed, govtuner)
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Anyone know why my stand by time is taking 20%?
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Poor cell reception or there is an app constantly pinging your location.
If you have Facebook installed and allow it Location access that could be it.
Also sometimes Google Play services gets hung up for the same reason. A reboot will fix the Google issue.
Lastly it could be at&t. If they are working on towers near you it can cause this drain, or if you have not disabled the AT&T apps that track your phone.
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Poor cell reception or there is an app constantly pinging your location.
If you have Facebook installed and allow it Location access that could be it.
Also sometimes Google Play services gets hung up for the same reason. A reboot will fix the Google issue.
Lastly it could be at&t. If they are working on towers near you it can cause this drain, or if you have not disabled the AT&T apps that track your phone.
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I deleted Facebook and pretty sure turned off location on everything. I unlocked my phone so I don't att apps. I get 2 or 3 bars now I unlocked my phone so it's not terrible
FWIW, you can use the Edge "My Places" panel to automatically manage wifi on/off based upon geolocation or bluetooth, and some other ways. I use it to automatically force wifi off whenever in my car (because of bluetooth connect) or at work (via gofence, no wifi available), and that helps. It's also standard on the GS7edge.
The battery life has very little to do with Facebook or Messenger if you have the settings for the apps tweaked to not notify on every little thing. Also, you can limit background data inherently in Android, thus using less power to get real-time updates from either app. You can limit Messenger's notifications, including eliminating chat heads, etc. If Facebook were solely responsible for poor battery life on this device, it'd be the same on very device. That just isn't the case. It definitely is a resource hog as-is, but not if you contain it.
That said, I'm a big advocate for limiting background data for any social networking apps: FB, Snapchat, etc. I would rather have to open an app to see what I've missed than have dozens of notifications throughout my day. I save real-time updates for things like email, Amazon, and the like. You can also set wifi settings to not be so aggressive (I believe mentioned earlier in the thread). Beyond that....root the device and set up custom power settings and profiles for CPU, etc. Your performance will potentially suffer for it, and the eng kernel has the worst battery life of any I've ever used, but there are ways to fine tune it that you simply can't achieve without root.
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The battery life has very little to do with Facebook or Messenger if you have the settings for the apps tweaked to not notify on every little thing. Also, you can limit background data inherently in Android, thus using less power to get real-time updates from either app. You can limit Messenger's notifications, including eliminating chat heads, etc. If Facebook were solely responsible for poor battery life on this device, it'd be the same on very device. That just isn't the case. It definitely is a resource hog as-is, but not if you contain it.
That said, I'm a big advocate for limiting background data for any social networking apps: FB, Snapchat, etc. I would rather have to open an app to see what I've missed than have dozens of notifications throughout my day. I save real-time updates for things like email, Amazon, and the like. You can also set wifi settings to not be so aggressive (I believe mentioned earlier in the thread). Beyond that....root the device and set up custom power settings and profiles for CPU, etc. Your performance will potentially suffer for it, and the eng kernel has the worst battery life of any I've ever used, but there are ways to fine tune it that you simply can't achieve without root.
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Have you actually done any research into what the Facebook app does? It's a system app, doing the thing you mention above without root will not effect its ability to use your data and drain your battery. It's not about the core features of the app its about all the spying it does. FB Messenger keeps a log of every messenger you send whether or not it's sent through the APP or not.
Facebook installs trackers on your phone that read your credit card and banking apps data to track purchases. It also pings your location to know where you shop and what you eat. Then feeds you ads related to it and tells the companies you bought something because you saw the ad. All of that data is bundled up and sent out to be resold to any company that wants it.
Any phone iPhone or Android that comes with the Facebook apps pre installed on it the apps are the main culprit of battery drain and random data usage. There is even a lawsuit filed in California against Facebook saying it is illegally using both data and power and disguising it as normal system usage so end users don't know that it is their apps to blame.
If you know anyone who works in advertising at a fortune 500 company that has bought ads for Facebook they will tell you the same. And if you do any real research into Facebook apps programing you will see it is true. Their are MANY people who have tore apart the apks to find exactly what I am talking about and shared it all over the Internet. Facebook spends millions with PR companies to keep it quiet, because the only way for them to monetize their app is to offer highly targeted ads and purchase tracking.
As for rooting the S7E its garbage, not what I consider REAL root and a waste of time. Also it kills the performance of the device.
Particularly this app.
Trust me if you like your battery life and/or your privacy disabling Facebook is the most important thing to do to any device you get.
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Have you actually done any research into what the Facebook app does? It's a system app, doing the thing you mention above without root will not effect its ability to use your data and drain your battery. It's not about the core features of the app its about all the spying it does. FB Messenger keeps a log of every messenger you send whether or not it's sent through the APP or not.
Facebook installs trackers on your phone that read your credit card and banking apps data to track purchases. It also pings your location to know where you shop and what you eat. Then feeds you ads related to it and tells the companies you bought something because you saw the ad. All of that data is bundled up and sent out to be resold to any company that wants it.
Any phone iPhone or Android that comes with the Facebook apps pre installed on it the apps are the main culprit of battery drain and random data usage. There is even a lawsuit filed in California against Facebook saying it is illegally using both data and power and disguising it as normal system usage so end users don't know that it is their apps to blame.
If you know anyone who works in advertising at a fortune 500 company that has bought ads for Facebook they will tell you the same. And if you do any real research into Facebook apps programing you will see it is true. Their are MANY people who have tore apart the apks to find exactly what I am talking about and shared it all over the Internet. Facebook spends millions with PR companies to keep it quiet, because the only way for them to monetize their app is to offer highly targeted ads and purchase tracking.
As for rooting the S7E its garbage, not what I consider REAL root and a waste of time. Also it kills the performance of the device.
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Facebook is not a system app when it's obtained through the Play Store. Here's a screen shot illustrating that; I have a backup of the system app, but it is not currently installed. I've installed from the Play Store, and it is not installed as a system app. Permissions are in my full control, and even if I weren't rooted, I could disable the default Facebook app and install anew from the Play Store.
You made quite a few claims with zero citations, criticizing me for not knowing the depth of the Facebook advertising conspiracy. Facebook is pretty transparent about what it does with your data and who it is allowed to share that with. It's all accessible for the curious minds of conspiracy theorists. All of which derails the topic of this thread, which is battery life.
Clearly, you don't use Facebook in the form of an app, and I do. That said, I can attest to having considerably better battery life when I tweak the permissions, data consumption allowance, and notification settings.
Let's keep this thread on topic
disturbd1 said:
Facebook is not a system app when it's obtained through the Play Store.
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On some GS7E variants it comes as a pre-installed system app (AT&T for example) and you can't undo that w/o root.
I uninstalled package disabler pro and battery life got better, and system ui is much faster, am also using adguard, it uses a lot of battery but also prevents all those ads to use battery as well.
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I uninstalled all that because my phones battery was dying over night
Howdy!
3 part question:
1) I am on rooted OOS9.0.17 + Omega kernel + xXxNoLimits and use App Ops to put my apps on a leash( those dirty buggers! ), and a VPN. I have location services turned off, sandboxed facebook and fb messenger, use Privacy Browser or Tor, and use App Ops to turn off location for the ton of apps that use it but do not ask for permission. Do I still need to use a gps/location spoofer for all the system level stuff that I won't/don't mess with? It seems some stuff still knows where I am. It seems that, in spite of all I have done, a few apps still know where I really am.
2) what app have you personally had success with? I have searched the sight and didn't seem to find "that" one app everyone uses and loves.
3) What is the impact on battery life? I had to made some adjustments with my VPN after the last update to either Eddie or OpenVPN as my battery started tanking again. Still not totally happy on that front.
Thank you in advance!