PA for Sony Xperia devices? - General Paranoid Android Discussion

Hi there,
about two weeks ago, when Paranoid Android 6 was anounced, many news articles wrote about it's going to be available first for some Nexus devices, OnePlus devices and some Sony devices.
There are entries for Xperia Z3, Z3 compact, Z3 Tab Compact, Z2 and Z2 Tab on the official AOSPA download page, but none of them is filled with downloads.
When will builds be available for Xperia devices?
Greetings

There were builds, but not stable, vendor not working, camera not working, microsd not working, reboots, its like a alpha build; last I heard on Google+ Radio is fixed on all shinano, and they are currently fixing the camera. (18-JUN-2016 posted)

Hi,
As innocent as it may be, asking for ETA's can put unneeded pressure on developers, who very often do this as a hobby. Nobody wants strict timetables for a hobby.
Thanks for understanding, thread closed.

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ANDROID 4.4.4 update for Xperia SP

Hey fellow members... look what I found... the information suggests that the new android 4.4.4 will land on Xperia SP, T, TX, and V also...
Check out the link below..
http://autoomobile.com/news/sony-xp...tkat-update-packs-exclusive-features/1003728/
That's a great news for all of us!!!
New features are said to include two new UIS, battery managers and camera modes.
The new KitKat 4.4.4 will also allow Sony users to have more power in customizing their phone. The previous OS takes away a lot of the customization to make way for the My Xperia themes. The update will also improve power management.
The update will start with Sony Xperia Z2 before going to SP, T, TX and V.
Good News,this site is maybe true,because they tell us Android 4.3 relase date-13 February
Yeah... Finally a good news for SP owners regarding KitKat.. :fingers-crossed:
" There are also rumors that the Sony Ultra X and the Sony Xperia X1 could be given a Background Defocus and Timeshift video app."
So it's not a good source od news, if there are errors in text like that.
Also there is already a thread for 4.4 news....
there is already a thread for news and update.
Its fake in my opinion.. Article means Xperia x1 from 10 years ago??
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I think they make an error- X=Z
There's already a discussion thread on Kitkat http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2516663 Kindly continue there

Question and request for sailfish for ...

Hello to all of you guys, i have a question - can the sailfish OS be installed on Xperia z1 compact ?
If doesnt yet a port for this cell , i will request for port .
Thank to all devs in advanced.
There was attempt but there is problem with GPU and AFAIK currently nobody doing it
https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris/gpu
the new unified kernels Sony pushed out recently for AOSP developers should make these sort of problems less of an issue, and make ports to Z1/Z1C / Z2 / Z3 / Z3C more possible. Z3 and particularly Z3C (as the only premium compact in Western markets) are doing very well, so there may be some interest here.
Sailfish OS SII Plus (nfc)
I was really interesting in this OS, i saw a lot of videos, read a lot of things...would be great if i coul try it on my s2 plus. If someone is interest in the developement is a great thing...otherwise i'll buy a jolla phone...so far T.T

[Discussion] Porting ROMs to our Xperia Z5

Hi all,
Well what I can see is that there are no custom roms developed for the Xperia Z5 , they are very very few
by the way, I would like to give very special thanks to :
@auras76 : for his amazing "RomAur" ROM
@celderic : for the great "SlimStock" ROM ( I'm using it right now )
@AndroPlus : for the hardwork he done to make good kernels for the Z5
And for sure @zacharias.maladroit, @CTXz, @_LLJY and all the the Xperia Z5 and Sony devices developers who works in improving and optimizing our devices to get the best of them .
Back to the topic, I'm saying that because you can't get the full of your phone after rooting if you don't have many ROMs choices :crying: .
Most flagship devices of these days like the Nexus 6P and the Galaxy S6 have a very good development and you can choose between a wide variety of custom roms and mods .
I remember that every devices line had some famous roms, like the 'Android Revolution HD' for samsung's
and the 'ViperOne' for HTC's, besides AOSP ROMs like Resurrection Remix and slim rom or the popular cyanogenmod ROMS
The Z5 is my first root experience with a sony device , and it has been a bit weird and different than other devices .
I remember even for my old my old galaxy and LG handsets I had the choice to try so many ROMS and have fun with them
You think that the Z5 is stilll a new device ? Oh c'mon It was released in 2015
Maybe the Xperia Z5 is not enough popular ? Or it is maybe difficult to port ROMs for this device
I am not an expert developer so I can't say much about that
What about creating a team for development purposes ?
I think they already introduced that in the general sony devices section
[Announcement]Building a team, which WILL twist Sony Development
Or maybe you have better ideas, let us know what you think , cheers
I think the reason why there has not been much development is because the Z5 isn't easy to develop for and the AOSP kernel source and drivers (especially the camera ones) still need to be worked on by Sony, I guess we have to wait.
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_LLJY said:
I think the reason why there has not been much development is because the Z5 isn't easy to develop for and the AOSP kernel source and drivers (especially the camera ones) still need to be worked on by Sony, I guess we have to wait.
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Exactly:
http://developer.sonymobile.com/201...-camera-available-for-experienced-developers/
The following devices are not in this release, but will be added later, so stay tuned: Xperia Z5 Compact, Xperia Z5 and Xperia Z5 Premium (MSM8994) and Xperia M2, Xperia E3, and Xperia T3 (MSM8226).
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XZ1 Nougat

Hello dear developers,
I think some of you know, that the XZ3 is in the Android preview program for Nougat. https://developer.sony.com/develop/smartphones-and-tablets/android-n-developer-preview/
As far as I can see in wikipedia the hardware of Z1 and Z3 are very similar. The Z3 is the last of the Z series with very similar hardware.
Because there are so many Xperia devices, the community of developers is very thinned out. There is not even one MarshMallow release which is running without problems until now and Google is already short before releasing Nougat.
Sadlly I am no developer on my own. I already fail at creating the necessary Linux environment. But there are many great developers and skilled people here on the forum. Wouldn't it be a great idea that you bundle your skills, skip the MM release and create the maybe last ROM update for our beloved XZ1? A release of stock based N.
It is just an idea, but it would be great if some of you would capture the idea :fingers-crossed:
wrong forum, xperia z1 won't have a stable MM ROM........................
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Hello dear developers,
I think some of you know, that the XZ3 is in the Android preview program for Nougat. https://developer.sony.com/develop/smartphones-and-tablets/android-n-developer-preview/
As far as I can see in wikipedia the hardware of Z1 and Z3 are very similar. The Z3 is the last of the Z series with very similar hardware.
Because there are so many Xperia devices, the community of developers is very thinned out. There is not even one MarshMallow release which is running without problems until now and Google is already short before releasing Nougat.
Sadlly I am no developer on my own. I already fail at creating the necessary Linux environment. But there are many great developers and skilled people here on the forum. Wouldn't it be a great idea that you bundle your skills, jump over the MM release and create the maybe last ROM update for our beloved XZ1? A release of N.
It is just an idea, but it would be great if some of you would capture the idea :fingers-crossed:
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None of Xperias will have stable custom roms above LP 5.1.1, because everyone has switched to AOSP trees. Sony blobs are protected by DRM, so, they won't work with camera wrappers and Sony's blobs for AOSP have always and will continue to be crap. Sony doesn't want you to have custom roms. So, think of developer friendlier manufacturers. This crap about Sony being friendly to open source is just that. Their open source developers are just PR people. Sony AOSP has never had a stable rom: not for JB, not for Kitkat and not for LP...
optimumpro said:
None of Xperias will have stable custom roms above LP 5.1.1, because everyone has switched to AOSP trees. Sony blobs are protected by DRM, so, they won't work with camera wrappers and Sony's blobs for AOSP have always and will continue to be crap. Sony doesn't want you to have custom roms. So, think of developer friendlier manufacturers. This crap about Sony being friendly to open source is just that. Their open source developers are just PR people. Sony AOSP has never had a stable rom: not for JB, not for Kitkat and not for LP...
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I've wondered for a long time now: you talk crap about Sony's software, complain about their blobs being 'crap', and claim Sony isn't friendly to OSS, yet you continue to develop and deploy custom ROMs for the Z1. If it's such a hurdle to develop, why not move to a developer friendly platform/device like the Nexus 6P? I appreciate your work for the Z1, but I think you're beating the dead horse at this point.
kentexcitebot said:
I've wondered for a long time now: you talk crap about Sony's software, complain about their blobs being 'crap', and claim Sony isn't friendly to OSS, yet you continue to develop and deploy custom ROMs for the Z1. If it's such a hurdle to develop, why not move to a developer friendly platform/device like the Nexus 6P? I appreciate your work, but I think you're beating the dead horse at this point.
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LP 5.1 is pretty good. It is better than stock. Today I replaced the rear camera module (the old one stopped focusing) and camera is superb. No bugs in LP.
I may move to Nexus, but the phone I buy has to be metal or glass, plus Z1 has enough life ahead of it. I don't care about M or N. From my point of view, Google changes SDK, so that prior features won't work, and in exchange gives us a few different icons and slightly different interface.
Security updates are coming and lp will be supported for a long while. Normal users don't care about versions either. They want a stable device and they get it in LP...
optimumpro said:
I may move to Nexus, but the phone I buy has to be metal or glass, plus Z1 has enough life ahead of it.
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The OnePlus 3 is the next best developer-friendly platform after the Nexus devices. Warranty doesn't go bad if you root or unlock bootloader. It even got CM 13 before launch! It also happens to have a metal back, 16MP shooter with OIS, and everybody's favorite 'Dark Mode'. I don't mean to advertise, but for $399, I'd say that's a great bargain. Don't get me wrong, the Z1 still works beautifully when all is OK, but it's really starting to show it's age: your device's rear camera module stopped focusing until you replaced it, several user's battery in the Z1 (not just on XDA) is going bad, and my Z1's touch digitizer has issues on tap (probably from abuse, but people reported self-cracking screens with their touchscreens completely broken). Not too many people want to go through the trouble of sending it in (to China?!) or fixing it themselves.
I don't care about M or N. From my point of view, Google changes SDK, so that prior features won't work, and in exchange gives us a few different icons and slightly different interface.
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Normal users don't care about versions either.
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Um, what? According to many tech sources, that's the highlight issue with Android: fragmentation. If you wanted to know Android's biggest problem, this is it. In fact, people (including some casuals) blast Android because of this. Maybe you don't care about Android versions, but if you stick with LP or an older platform, you're contributing to the problem.
Security updates are coming and lp will be supported for a long while. They want a stable device and they get it in LP...
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As you can probably tell, I've already switched to a different device: a OnePlus 3. Oxygen OS 3.1.3 (6.0.1 Marshmallow), from experience, is quite stable and is developed by the team behind Paranoid Android. Sure, LP's code is more stable because it's been out longer and has more revisions, but it really depends of how you interpret the term (because I've experienced no crashes or FCs so far on MM). I'm fine if you continue holding the torch for Z1's AOSP/CM ROM community and keep LP more secure/stable for them, but I find it a bit redundant as most users have already moved away from this device and transitioned to MM (and even N DP4).
kentexcitebot said:
The OnePlus 3 is the next best developer-friendly platform after the Nexus devices. Warranty doesn't go bad if you root or unlock bootloader. It even got CM 13 before launch! It also happens to have a metal back, 16MP shooter with OIS, and everybody's favorite 'Dark Mode'. I don't mean to advertise, but for $399, I'd say that's a great bargain. Don't get me wrong, the Z1 still works beautifully when all is OK, but it's really starting to show it's age: your device's rear camera module stopped focusing until you replaced it, several user's battery in the Z1 (not just on XDA) is going bad, and my Z1's touch digitizer has issues on tap (probably from abuse, but people reported self-cracking screens with their touchscreens completely broken). Not too many people want to go through the trouble of sending it in (to China?!) or fixing it themselves.
Um, what? According to many tech sources, that's the highlight issue with Android: fragmentation. If you wanted to know Android's biggest problem, this is it. In fact, people (including some casuals) blast Android because of this. Maybe you don't care about Android versions, but if you stick with LP or an older platform, you're contributing to the problem.
As you can probably tell, I've already switched to a different device: a OnePlus 3. Oxygen OS 3.1.3 (6.0.1 Marshmallow), from experience, is quite stable and is developed by the team behind Paranoid Android. Sure, LP's code is more stable because it's been out longer and has more revisions, but it really depends of how you interpret the term (because I've experienced no crashes or FCs so far on MM). I'm fine if you continue holding the torch for Z1's AOSP/CM ROM community and keep LP more secure/stable for them, but I find it a bit redundant as most users have already moved away from this device and transitioned to MM (and even N DP4).
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Fragmentation has nothing to do with Android versions. Neither Android version has done anything to reduce fragmentation as compared to the previous one. It is the fact that there are hundreds of different devices with varieties of hardware. However, different hardware does not create fragmentation. Unlike Apple, Windows and Linux work on many devices. The problem for Android is that manufacturers don't want to provide hardware addresses (to make open source drivers) or blobs to work with hardware. The question is: why manufacturers provide the necessary info for Windows and Linux, but refuse the same with Android and mobile devices. And I am yet to hear an answer to this...
optimumpro said:
None of Xperias will have stable custom roms above LP 5.1.1, because everyone has switched to AOSP trees. Sony blobs are protected by DRM, so, they won't work with camera wrappers and Sony's blobs for AOSP have always and will continue to be crap. Sony doesn't want you to have custom roms. So, think of developer friendlier manufacturers. This crap about Sony being friendly to open source is just that. Their open source developers are just PR people. Sony AOSP has never had a stable rom: not for JB, not for Kitkat and not for LP...
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Actually, they have been doing a lot of work and are very friendly about AOSP. MM already has a working camera if you use 1.2.2 kernel. The only issue there is zoom focus and application restarts when switching between front and back camera, but apart from that everything works well. Sony is being very developer friendly and you can't take that away from them.
olokos said:
Actually, they have been doing a lot of work and are very friendly about AOSP. MM already has a working camera if you use 1.2.2 kernel. The only issue there is zoom focus and application restarts when switching between front and back camera, but apart from that everything works well. Sony is being very developer friendly and you can't take that away from them.
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Would you have any test build that could be tried out? I'd love to test it out...
olokos said:
Actually, they have been doing a lot of work and are very friendly about AOSP. MM already has a working camera if you use 1.2.2 kernel. The only issue there is zoom focus and application restarts when switching between front and back camera, but apart from that everything works well. Sony is being very developer friendly and you can't take that away from them.
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Doing "a lot of work" and having stable releases, which they have never had on any android version, are 2 different things. Aren't they? Camera aside, how about random reboots, blank screen issues, failure to wake up, battery drain, slow charging, overheating: what more do you need? And by the way, you think camera focus is the only issue? I bet a lot of users would disagree.
We are almost in August. Last year this time LP 5.1.1 was pretty stable. No chance for MM and N is already here...
Edit: My opinions about MM and Sony shouldn't be taken as criticism of Sony open source developers (who work their butts off) or any other devs (myself included) who contribute to the code, but rather Sony Corporation itself. Sony doesn't want you to have custom roms.
If I am to blame community developers, then it would be for abandoning stable releases like LP 5.1.1 in favor of undercooked new ones like MM. That's double stupidity, because in addition to starting from ZERO, they are following (instead of leading) teenage users who would rather have a slightly changed "cool" user interface, as opposed to a rock solid stable release...
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Doing "a lot of work" and having stable releases, which they have never had on any android version, are 2 different things. Aren't they? Camera aside, how about random reboots, blank screen issues, failure to wake up, battery drain, slow charging, overheating: what more do you need? And by the way, you think camera focus is the only issue? I bet a lot of users would disagree.
We are almost in August. Last year this time LP 5.1.1 was pretty stable. No chance for MM and N is already here...
Edit: My opinions about MM and Sony shouldn't be taken as criticism of Sony open source developers (who work their butts off) or any other devs (myself included) who contribute to the code, but rather Sony Corporation itself. Sony doesn't want you to have custom roms.
If I am to blame community developers, then it would be for abandoning stable releases like LP 5.1.1 in favor of undercooked new ones like MM. That's double stupidity, because in addition to starting from ZERO, they are following (instead of leading) teenage users who would rather have a slightly changed "cool" user interface, as opposed to a rock solid stable release...
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but, like you said, lollipop are stable, why still develop for it?
brickhayabusa said:
but, like you said, lollipop are stable, why still develop for it?
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Because stable and maintained are different things. Stable becomes outdated if not further developed. For example, all abandoned LPs are now outdated and shouldn't be used...
optimumpro said:
Because stable and maintained are different things. Stable becomes outdated if not further developed. For example, all abandoned LPs are now outdated and shouldn't be used...
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Then why xperia M is really awesome, they have a official cm13 nightly still updte every day, n now they're will building for awaken the Nougat, already tested n booted with Alpha release now,
it all by they devs is superior or factor xperia M devices are supported?
Will realy glad if Honami can like them..
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Then why xperia M is really awesome, they have a official cm13 nightly still updte every day, n now they're will building for awaken the Nougat, already tested n booted with Alpha release now,
it all by they devs is superior or factor xperia M devices are supported?
Will realy glad if Honami can like them..
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Because they are probably using 3.4 kernel together with older camera blobs. In case of honami, they have decided to move to 3.10 kernel and the newer good blobs are drm protected. And they are waiting for Sony aosp to improve 3.10 blobs, which should happen in the next 50-100 years. Because of this, CM is not working on honami. That's why there is not even one nightly MM for Z1. And since other "big" guys can only cut and paste from CM, there is nothing for Z1.
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Because they are probably using 3.4 kernel together with older camera blobs. In case of honami, they have decided to move to 3.10 kernel and the newer good blobs are drm protected. And they are waiting for Sony aosp to improve 3.10 blobs, which should happen in the next 50-100 years. Because of this, CM is not working on honami. That's why there is not even one nightly MM for Z1. And since other "big" guys can only cut and paste from CM, there is nothing for Z1.
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Sorry for this one sir,
This screenshoot i take from xda fecebook via someone of member z1 indonesia FB group, but i dont OP like u so i not understanding it, pls help for read that post at this link...
http://developer.sonymobile.com/build-aosp-nougat-7-0/
EDIT: looks like z1 never to be the Nougat :crying:
from here: http://www.xda-developers.com/sony-...g-aosp-7-0-nougat-for-its-xperia-smartphones/
looki looki!!!!
http://uploaded.net/f/ikvebh
santeria27 said:
looki looki!!!!
http://uploaded.net/f/ikvebh
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U have try that rom?
No tested!!!
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No tested!!!
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Haha . Even i cant download that .
Spent 2 hours for downloading this.
Mirror: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5NqkvihftQXSDI5Vl9Na2h6ak0

[Request] Ubuntu Touch for Xperia Z2 (sirius)

Hey,
I'd like to issue a request for Ubuntu Touch availability on Xperia Z2. I have a D6503 variant, and have been using it since '14.
Ubuntu Touch is already available (officially) on Xperia Z1 (which has a stark similarity to Z2 if you look it up). If anyone likes to check out the Z1 version:
{https}://wiki{dot}ubuntu{dot}com/Touch/Devices/minato
Also, for anyone who is interested in development:
{https}://developer{dot}ubuntu{dot}com/en/phone/devices/porting-new-device/
I'm a new user. And cannot post external links. Please replace { } signs to use the links. Sorry for that.
Thanks in advance.
I dont think this is possible for our phone, because this is very high level development and need many time.
The Z2 is an old device. You've had yours approximately 3 years.
Most people have moved on to newer devices so I doubt very much you'll have any luck with a Dev taking this on.
Also ubuntu touch is dead
If it wasn't dead, it would also be hella difficult to develop, we're basically stuck with bugged cm11 and 12.1 and no kernel for 13, so it's no good. See SailfishOS port.

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