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After playing with the Lollipop build for a while on the Moto X 14, I think for me the biggest thing that will take the most getting used to on the N6 is not having Moto display. Sure Googles implementation is OK, but no where near as useful ad Moto's.
Cant beat picking up the phone and having your messages show up. Or better yet waiving your hand over the display to light it up.
This and moto assist are the only reason I may hang on to my Moto X 14. I use the hand wave feature frequently. Way more than i thought i would. Moto assist for driving and at home is so convenient. It's like having Amazon's echo wherever you are. Sure the N6 has always listening but I don't think you can answer phone calls and reply to messages hands free.
If the moto apps can be hacked to work on the N6 I may go for it.
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Cant beat picking up the phone and having your messages show up.
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That's how it works on the N6.
Try agent app. That's a good replacement for talking and replying back to texts while driving. Dynamic notifications is almost exactly like moto display
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I need to get a new phone, and the only thing keeping me from the Nexus 6 is the lack of Moto Display/Moto Suite/Moto Voice, etc. I've yet to hear from a 2014 Moto X user who says that they wouldn't miss it.
The way it works on the nexus is when you pick up the phone the active display turns on. The same as the moto
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The way it works on the nexus is when you pick up the phone the active display turns on. The same as the moto
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The Moto X's active display also pulses like a notification LED, and you can also just wave your hand over it to get it to turn on.
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The Moto X's active display also pulses like a notification LED, and you can also just wave your hand over it to get it to turn on.
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The N6 version pulses as well, so it's only missing the wave function.
Credit & Thanks to biggiestuff for the following:
"Ambient display looks similar but in no way is close to moto display. Moto display uses the low power contextual processor in order to save battery. Ambient display uses the amoled ability to fire up specific pixels in order not to waste battery. The minute you interact with ambient display the screen fires up 100 percent. Moto display let's you interact without ever using the primary processor until you unlock. It's a step in the right direction but not there just yet."
Battery impact will be substantially greater.
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Credit & Thanks to biggiestuff for the following:
"Ambient display looks similar but in no way is close to moto display. Moto display uses the low power contextual processor in order to save battery. Ambient display uses the amoled ability to fire up specific pixels in order not to waste battery. The minute you interact with ambient display the screen fires up 100 percent. Moto display let's you interact without ever using the primary processor until you unlock. It's a step in the right direction but not there just yet."
Battery impact will be substantially greater.
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Uuhm... i'm sorry.... but i'd personally be questioning biggiestuff's basis for his comment. Watch video's of "Moto Display", and then watch the video of Ambient Display. There is physically no difference as to how one functions compared to the other. In Lollipop's Ambient Display, you get the typical Lollipop notification look, with the notifications showing up under the clock, also saying what the notification is, what was said in the text message, etc... When you interact with a particular notification, yes, the display turns on completely. Then look at "Moto Display". Yes, you can touch the screen to "interact" with them... but with either system, the display has to be turned on to do anything more than that. Only difference i can see is that Moto Display uses less pixels, since it only lights up up to 3 circles with the app icon in the middle, unless you have more than 3 notifications.... at which point you get a menu-like notification as the 3rd one.
Long story short...
Ambient Display = notifications are displayed on screen, and interacting with them (to see your list of e-mails/texts received, or opening the app directly from the notification) powers the display on completely.
Moto Display = Notification icons are displayed on screen. Interacting with those allows you to see what the notification says. Interacting FURTHER powers the display on completely to open the app so you can do what you need to do.
No difference at all power requirement wise (except for the minuscule amount of power needed for the couple extra pixels in Ambient Display) that i can see.
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Uuhm... i'm sorry.... but i'd personally be questioning biggiestuff's basis for his comment. Watch video's of "Moto Display", and then watch the video of Ambient Display. There is physically no difference as to how one functions compared to the other. In Lollipop's Ambient Display, you get the typical Lollipop notification look, with the notifications showing up under the clock, also saying what the notification is, what was said in the text message, etc... When you interact with a particular notification, yes, the display turns on completely. Then look at "Moto Display". Yes, you can touch the screen to "interact" with them... but with either system, the display has to be turned on to do anything more than that. Only difference i can see is that Moto Display uses less pixels, since it only lights up up to 3 circles with the app icon in the middle, unless you have more than 3 notifications.... at which point you get a menu-like notification as the 3rd one.
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Ambient Display = notifications are displayed on screen, and interacting with them (to see your list of e-mails/texts received, or opening the app directly from the notification) powers the display on completely.
Moto Display = Notification icons are displayed on screen. Interacting with those allows you to see what the notification says. Interacting FURTHER powers the display on completely to open the app so you can do what you need to do.
No difference at all power requirement wise (except for the minuscule amount of power needed for the couple extra pixels in Ambient Display) that i can see.
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No, it's different. With the Moto X, you can interact with the screen and view the notification without the phone actually turning on, whilst still only using the low power contextual processor. You can't respond to it, but you can view it. And again, unless you physically unlock the device, it is all done with the low power contextual processor while the phone is technically still asleep. With the N6 and Ambient Display, the moment you touch the screen it wakes up the phone, lights up in full color and uses the full power processor. There is a reason why when you use Ambient Display the standby battery life gets chopped by about 25%. Check out the specs sheet for the N6- Standby time is 330hrs with Ambient Display off, and 250hrs with it on. http://www.google.com/nexus/6/
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No, it's different. With the Moto X, you can interact with the screen and view the notification without the phone actually turning on, whilst still only using the low power contextual processor. You can't respond to it, but you can view it. And again, unless you physically unlock the device, it is all done with the low power contextual processor while the phone is technically still asleep. With the N6 and Ambient Display, the moment you touch the screen it wakes up the phone, lights up in full color and uses the full power processor. There is a reason why when you use Ambient Display the standby battery life gets chopped by about 25%. Check out the specs sheet for the N6- Standby time is 330hrs with Ambient Display off, and 250hrs with it on. http://www.google.com/nexus/6/
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Yes..... but on the other hand.... they've actually gone ahead and POSTED their estimated battery life with it on and off. Looking at the Moto X, all you get is "24 hours mixed usage". Nothing saying what to expect with Moto Display on or off. I'd assume it probably kills the battery just as much... but i couldn't find a review that tested battery life with it on and off.
Again.... with Moto Display, you get notification circles.... only showing the app icon. You touch the icon, and you get what the text message says and who it's from, or what the e-mail you received was about. You can then slide your finger up to the app icon again to unlock the device, turning the screen on fully, and opening up to that message.
With Ambient Display, it's no different from the standard lock screen with the notifications showing, aside from it using only the required pixels. The ONLY difference between it and Moto Display is that for Moto Display, you have to touch the notification icon on the screen to see what the notification says, whereas with Ambient Display, when it turns on, whatever you'd really need to see is already there. Moto Display just adds one extra step to the process.
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Moto display uses the low power contextual processor in order to save battery. Ambient display uses the amoled ability to fire up specific pixels in order not to waste battery..
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This doesn't make any sense to me. Those two things are not mutually exclusive. Both Moto Display and Ambient Display take advantage of AMOLED's ability to only light up select pixels to conserve battery when displaying notifications. As for the use of a low power processor to save battery when displaying notifications, the Snapdragon 805 SoC has a Hexagon DSP built-in, so it's possible that the Nexus 6's Ambient Display is also using a low power processor to display notifications. It's simply too early to say that this difference exists between Ambient Display and Moto Display.
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Yes..... but on the other hand.... they've actually gone ahead and POSTED their estimated battery life with it on and off. Looking at the Moto X, all you get is "24 hours mixed usage". Nothing saying what to expect with Moto Display on or off. I'd assume it probably kills the battery just as much... but i couldn't find a review that tested battery life with it on and off.
Again.... with Moto Display, you get notification circles.... only showing the app icon. You touch the icon, and you get what the text message says and who it's from, or what the e-mail you received was about. You can then slide your finger up to the app icon again to unlock the device, turning the screen on fully, and opening up to that message.
With Ambient Display, it's no different from the standard lock screen with the notifications showing, aside from it using only the required pixels. The ONLY difference between it and Moto Display is that for Moto Display, you have to touch the notification icon on the screen to see what the notification says, whereas with Ambient Display, when it turns on, whatever you'd really need to see is already there. Moto Display just adds one extra step to the process.
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I haven't really tested it on my 2014 Moto X yet, but I can tell you from personal experience with my 2013 Moto X that Active Display has pretty much zero effect on standby battery life. My 2013 loses about 1% overnight, and maybe 3-4% a day if I just let it sit. That's with or without Active Display being on. That's the whole point of the low power contextual processor, it can do these things (Active Display, Moto Voice) with negligible effect on battery life. It was designed that way. Judging from the stated specs of the Nexus 6, it doesn't seem like they had Ambient Display in mind when designing the hardware. I mean, an 80 hour hit to standby battery life is pretty substantial.
As far as the information that's displayed is concerned, I can't really comment on it because I have no experience with the N6. But it does seem that you are correct in that it displays the same or similar information, albeit with one less step. In my point of view, that's actually a bad thing because it brings up some privacy concerns. The Moto X just pulses the type of notification for all to see- if you want to see the contents of it, you need to physically interact with the display. The N6 with Ambient Display, actually pulses the content of the notification which I'm not so keen on.
In the same boat. The Moto features truly change how one uses a phone. Am worried by getting the N6, that I'd miss these features a great deal.
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Anyone have the screen shot of the moto x2014 lollipop updates before they took it down? Even Motorola somewhat acknowledge that ambient display drains more than moto display. Moto x 2014 will have ability to use both.
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What are the odds of the moto features becoming available for the N6, either from porting or moto directly making them available?
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What are the odds of the moto features becoming available for the N6, either from porting or moto directly making them available?
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If they haven't been done by now, I'd say the chances are slim. What features are you looking for. There are solid alternatives but I agree with most that Motorola's implementation has much tighter and cleaner integration. I actually gave up on my nexus 5 for a moto x. I probably would have ended up with the new moto x if it wasn't for that tiny battery.
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You think some build prop. editing would allow moto suite to work? That is the main advantage of Nexus devices. Tinkering ?
So my moto display will constantly light up every other second when I have notification such as E-mail etc. I feel like that kills a lot of battery when I just put it on the table. Is there are way to change the setting or something so it only light up for once or twice. I can always reach to the phone to check the notification so there is no need for notification always light up. Also, I found out that if I block the IR blaster it will not light up anymore but as soon as I remove the cover it will constantly light up again. I think constantly light up screen really burn down a lot of battery.
It doesn't use as much as you'd think. Moto Display (formerly Active Display on Moto X 2013) only lights the pixels that you can see. The rest of the screen is off.
With the Moto X, the display "breathes" when there are notifications pending. It flashes every 2-3 seconds, but does flash slower if left alone for a while. Placing the phone face down turns it off. You can also define quiet hours that disable the Active Display completely. Lastly, you can turn it on or off for specific apps that you don't want to trigger the notifications. For example, you may want your Gmail and text messages, but not Twitter. You can also dismiss the notifications by swiping left/right when selecting them (not certain if that is still true for Turbo as it has multiple notifications whereas the Moto X 2013 only shows one at a time).
I don't know of any way to turn it off after some amount of time, it's either on or off, but you can change the apps that are included. And as I said, it does blink slower (more time between blinks) if you don't touch the phone for a while.
Ok thanks that really helps... I just hope they can add a setting so it won't always light up. I'm also wondering if battery consumption by moto display count as part of the cell standby because it is still quite high compare to other smartphone I had used before.
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Ok thanks that really helps... I just hope they can add a setting so it won't always light up. I'm also wondering if battery consumption by moto display count as part of the cell standby because it is still quite high compare to other smartphone I had used before.
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The Moto Display battery usage falls under the "Android System" app in the battery stats. You can confirm it in by opening the app in the battery stats and observing the "Active Display System Process" listed.
You can turn off moto display...or you can swipe the notification to the right or left to "dismiss it" without opening the phone...or you can leave the phone face down on the table
I am unsure if I will buy this device.
Someone who has moto maxx can download an application from the notification screen and test if it works well?
These applications promise to pick a different light for each application notification screen on moto maxx. (Since he does not have conventional LED)
I will be very grateful if someone could do this to me
I think Moto should definitely change the Moto Display behavior so that it uses the front sensors instead of the gyro (movement) when there is no current notification. This would allow you to wave for the time and it would be displayed when you pulled it out of your pocket, but it would not be shown by bumps in the road or other movement. If there is a notification waiting the behavior should stay the same because it is up to the user to acknowledge/dismiss it.
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I think Moto should definitely change the Moto Display behavior so that it uses the front sensors instead of the gyro (movement) when there is no current notification. This would allow you to wave for the time and it would be displayed when you pulled it out of your pocket, but it would not be shown by bumps in the road or other movement. If there is a notification waiting the behavior should stay the same because it is up to the user to acknowledge/dismiss it.
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On the Moto X 2013 at least, it doesn't turn on every time it moves. If you're holding it in your hand and walking, it doesn't just stay on all the time. Once you set it down on the table and let it sit for a moment, then touch it again, it lights up.
I usually leave mine sitting on my desk at work and if there are no notifications pending (to make it breathe), I just touch it so it rolls slightly on the curved back and it shows me the time.
Hi,
I use moto display without gesture detection. When i receive a notification (mail, text message, ...) the screen turns on and slowly turns off which is the expected behaviour. But then the screen keep turning on/off indefinitely until i open the notification or dismiss it.
Do you have the same behaviour ?
Moreover this behaviour is not linked to any phone mouvement as it is just laid on the table without any vibration that could wake it up.
It seems to me that this new bahaviour appeared with MM.
Either you disable Moto display for notifications or slide the unlock icon to the right so it will dismiss the notification on moto display but not on the notifications bar.
Yes, but do you confirm that this is the expected behaviour ?
I thought it was supposed to turn the screen on just one time and not to turn my screen into a christmas tree. Moto display is supposed to save our battery life, not sure it is going to reach that target with this behaviour, especially with a screen that is not an amoled...
MyGoul said:
Yes, but do you confirm that this is the expected behaviour ?
I thought it was supposed to turn the screen on just one time and not to turn my screen into a christmas tree. Moto display is supposed to save our battery life, not sure it is going to reach that target with this behaviour, especially with a screen that is not an amoled...
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It's gonna pulse every minute or so for about 10 minutes I believe. Then it stops. If your phone is face down, it won't pulse at all.
Thanks for your feedback, too bad that we can't configure it, it's way too long by default imo.
I had a problem with the Lollipop and now the MM versions of the Moto Display. You can dismiss the notification, but it will start pulsing again for the same notification a little while later, with nothing new happening. Wasn't too bad with Lollipop, because I just switched to Ambient display which worked perfect. Now Ambient is gone for some reason.
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I had a problem with the Lollipop and now the MM versions of the Moto Display. You can dismiss the notification, but it will start pulsing again for the same notification a little while later, with nothing new happening. Wasn't too bad with Lollipop, because I just switched to Ambient display which worked perfect. Now Ambient is gone for some reason.
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I've checked, i don't have this behaviour on my side, once the notification is dismissed it stops pulsing... i don't understand how it can be different from one phone to another.
Edit : How did you switch to Ambient display btw ?
I haven't found a way to switch to Ambient on MM, you can only turn off Moto Display which gives you no notifications at all! It was easy with Lollipop, just go to the Moto settings and choose which display version you want.
Well it could be acceptable to turn it off with a notification led...
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I haven't found a way to switch to Ambient on MM, you can only turn off Moto Display which gives you no notifications at all! It was easy with Lollipop, just go to the Moto settings and choose which display version you want.
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Maybe unfortunately for some, Motorola got rid of Ambient Display in MM.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/108823
I really love this new Always On Display (AOD) feature, it's really classy and elegant.
But, one thing I noticed is that the brightness level seems to be automatically adjusted, and when its bright it surely drains the battery.
Is there anyway to set this brightness manually? I tried changing the display brightness in manual mode, but it does not seem to use that settings.
Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
I dont think there is an option, if there is i am also interested.
I personally thought the Display sometimes was too bright.
i..e In a Dark Room and the Light was more ambient than it really needed to be.
Then the misses would ask me to turn off the night light lol!
Always On
Dear All, I just bought my S7 Edge and picked it up yesterday. I'm quite impressed with this display!
I thought the same thing you guys tought... The Always On Display is very bright!
But here is some info that I searched over the internet. Don't know about it's reliability, but seems legit.
New Always On Display
An interesting function that first appeared on the Galaxy Note 4 Edge in 2014 was always keeping a portion of the OLED screen on when the phone is off (in standby), so certain content can be displayed all day and all night long, but with a very small power drain that has very little effect on the battery running time. This is possible on an OLED display with a mostly black background because every sub-pixel is independently powered, so black pixels and sub-pixels don’t use any power.
The new Always On Display mode shows various personalized clock, calendar, status messages, notifications, and images on the main screen when the phone is on standby. It measures the ambient light level and has both day and night modes, plus it’s smart enough to stay off when the phone display is face down, or it senses a dark confined space such as a pocket or handbag. The OLED display produces an illuminated main screen image 24 hours a day so you can always discreetly check it with just a glance. As a result, the OLED Always On Display will reduce the need for a smartwatch, which seems likely to become an endangered species. We’ll cover this in more detail below.
Here is where I picked it up. Cheers Guys!
(Received a message with the information that I can't post url's.. ) sorry...
Type this in google, "always on display s7 edge brightnes" then it is the 3rd link in the url contains displaymate
same, it quite bright, and with my testing if you can keep ut at its lowest brightness, it consumes 0.3%/hr. that would be absolutely great.
there is an app always on display plus which helps in that
if you mark on auto brightness , it will be done
I unmarked Auto Brightness and seems not brights
Hello guys did anyone find a solution to this?
metko said:
Hello guys did anyone find a solution to this?
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I've noticed that it is automatically adjusting by the amount of light in the room (and it's quite sensitive, always brighter than needed). It would be great if there was an option to manually set the brightness, but only small bunch of people are actually interested in this.
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there is an app always on display plus which helps in that
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This app does not changing the actual brightens, seams to be there is no solution yet.
I tried changing the screen brightness to minimum and disabling auto brightness, but the AoD brightness seems to be controlled independently.
Trying out an app called Always On AMOLED - it has a night mode. Gonna test power consumption of both
Mine used to auto adjust but not anymore. I think the last software update changed this.
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I'd love to have an adjustment setting. I'm having the opposite problem as most. Mine isn't bright enough! Oh well. Hope they change that!
AOD brightness fix for Galaxy S9 and S9 Plus. May fix others
This may not help everyone as I am giving you the solution for the S9 and S9 Plus, but look in your settings to see if you have the same thing.
Under 'Lock Screen and Security' select AOD and select 'Show Always'. Once you've selected the Content to Show, disable Auto Brightness then move the slider as far right as possible and underneath that select Show Always.
Job done. Next time you see your AOD it'll be full brightness. It is still not bright enough but better than before. If you then go into 'Clock Style' and change the colour after type and choose a fairly stand out colour, this will make your clock stand out even more.
I hope I've helped at least a few people.
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This may not help everyone as I am giving you the solution for the S9 and S9 Plus, but look in your settings to see if you have the same thing.
Under 'Lock Screen and Security' select AOD and select 'Show Always'. Once you've selected the Content to Show, disable Auto Brightness then move the slider as far right as possible and underneath that select Show Always.
Job done. Next time you see your AOD it'll be full brightness. It is still not bright enough but better than before. If you then go into 'Clock Style' and change the colour after type and choose a fairly stand out colour, this will make your clock stand out even more.
I hope I've helped at least a few people.
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i feel like its to bright... i want to dim it. dont need it to be that clear.... i wil continue my search....
Threw search and having both s7 and s9+ I noticed the 9+ has the ability to adjust the brightness of the AOD very easily in settings or double tap the screen and u see the settings. Works perfect on the 9+ as for the s7 doesnt have the same settings they both say the latest version available is downloaded but it's an s7.. so I just think that setting dont exist on the s7. The brightness is controlled on it's own and u really have no control manually on the brightness.. I think it's a new thing for new galaxies but the 7 isnt gonna do it.. eh.. so I suggest a contrast color which makes it "brighter" to the eye. And basic and big.. it's for quick glances anyways... sucks tho..
Hi, so I've been searching for an app with no luck. What I'm hoping to find is an app similar to Endomondo or Map My Ride where there is an option for when you turn the screen off it would continue to show information on the screen such as distance traveled, time, and current speed but it would use the Moto Display type settings where it would be monochrome in order to save battery.
Anyone ever run across something like this?
Monochrome means all AMOLED pixels with different color are on to show the info. Would be more battery friendly to turn on one color only. Blue has shortest life in AMOLED, so other colors would be better candidate. Anyway, keeping any pixel on for long period of time can produce burn in effect. Just because AMOLED pixels are fading over time.
It's not answer to your question, just observation if you find, ask for feature or develop by yourself