There seems to be a way to instal a uefi bios in the zenfone 2, this seems to be possible with intel manufacturing flash tool. Did anyone try this yet on a zenfone 2?
In a few weeks I will give it a try aswell unless there are negative results already. This may be the way to instal linux or windows without the android system and a vm.
Don_prince said:
There seems to be a way to instal a uefi bios in the zenfone 2, this seems to be possible with intel manufacturing flash tool. Did anyone try this yet on a zenfone 2?
In a few weeks I will give it a try aswell unless there are negative results already. This may be the way to instal linux or windows without the android system and a vm.
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You have any links for this? Am very interested.........
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no video drivers for windows afaik
UEFI bios
Well the idea originated from here:
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toms guide: install-windows-android-intel-tablet
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Yes,you can(but it is windows 8.1 with bing).find roms on web.I find one.You need:intel manufacturing flash tool to1.12,then find a windows 8.1 rom,an OTG usb,ADB tools(can use 15 seconds adb installer),and UEFI BIOS.
steps:
1:use intel manufacturing flash tool to flash to 1.12
2:install UEFI to your android tablet.
3ut your windows 8.1 rom to OTG usb
4:wait
5ONE!
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this IS possible especially now that there is more and more INTEL CPU (baytrail / atom) for android tablets and all in one pcs, look:
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the tool: cant post link
The problem is, the instructions are not very well organized and put out.
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That one is not related to the zenfone 2 but for a similair device, however its mentioned in the thread. Problem is the brazilian source of the tool is down. thats where my research till now stopped.
The gpu is not directly a concern. I think first goal is to get uefi on it at all.
I believe there is drivers from other tablets and phones, I believe someone mentioned a dell tablet but I can be wrong.
What's the difference between UEFI and old method of installing Windows in dual-boot mode?
Zhabishe said:
What's the difference between UEFI and old method of installing Windows in dual-boot mode?
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As I know, there is no old way of dual booting. In the UEFI you can possibly create a seccond instance to boot to with gnu grub. The only other way I know is via a VM, this has the disability with the drivers and no direct access to the hardware. This makes use of the gpu near impossible and will always leave resources to android wich has to run in the background.
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As I know, there is no old way of dual booting. In the UEFI you can possibly create a seccond instance to boot to with gnu grub. The only other way I know is via a VM, this has the disability with the drivers and no direct access to the hardware. This makes use of the gpu near impossible and will always leave resources to android wich has to run in the background.
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Thanks for clarification here. Yeah, I thought about KVM from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/general/zf2-running-windows-7-using-kvm-t3153299 which seemed a bit overcomplicated and more proof-of-concept thing, sort of similiar to running Windows 9x via DosBox on Symbian smartphones years ago. They also run into problem with unobtainable gpu drivers.
I believe there is drivers from other tablets and phones, I believe someone mentioned a dell tablet but I can be wrong.
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As I mentioned above and keeping mind those news about Intel not being happy with their SoCs perfomance on market it could possibly become a problem to get support on their side. Correct me if I am wrong, that's just my thoughts
I have cracked open a android, how do you call it, bios and am compiling a uefi bios now with the information from the droidbios and another uefi bios, Well see how this ends, This will take a lot of time.
Curious, any headway on this yet?
Progress is slow, I am working beyond my knowledge, so every step needs to be researched. Next to that at this point (rounding off university) my time is quit limmited.
Verry interesting! But I feel like it ended bad
Other options are coreboot or libreboot.
Man what happened u very-hard-briked it ?
Been too bussy to spend more time on it, and since my other cellphone died, my zf2 is my daily driver again...
Oh ok.
I think that the hard-brick is the biggest problem. We need a way to hard-flash a boot firmware if we hard-brick. To try many times
xdaxuser said:
Oh ok.
I think that the hard-brick is the biggest problem. We need a way to hard-flash a boot firmware if we hard-brick. To try many times
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so why did nobody code an UEFI bios as a part of a modded twrp with some failsafe measures (for early builds) zenfone 2 with a full windows would be amazing
News from the other tread.
On the asus web there is the kernel sources!
Look like zf2 uses Bootstub.
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Hello,
is it possible to install a full Windows 8 OS on a smartphone with Intel Atom Z2420 or other Intel CPUs?
(No Windows Phone or RT)
huaba91
They have locked bootloaders (almost always) and non ACPI compatible chipsets (sometimes). Can't stick windows on them unfortunately, screen would be too small anyway. Would certainly be cool though.
Bottom line no. The space requirements for a full install of windows is bigger than internal space available on most of the phones out there. An alternative would be to find a way to install a working version on a micro SD.
I think, the installation on a micro sd shouldnt be so hard.
But booting could be the problem.
Or would it be easier to install a "normal" linux version?
huaba91 said:
I think, the installation on a micro sd shouldnt be so hard.
But booting could be the problem.
Or would it be easier to install a "normal" linux version?
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The CPU's in most phones can only boot from the onboard flash as is. The hardware doesnt support more.
Clovertrail *by design* can only load windows *or* android (it was sold in 2 versions to do so). The windows version physically cannot load anything else, the android version cannot load anything else.
Eliminates microSD booting and also booting windows on an intel phone. You may have luck with linux on one but that can be done on ARM handsets already, android itself uses linux so it stands to reason that clovertrail may be fooled into booting it, but I dont see the advantage over an ARM handset in doing so.
I only need the x86 architecture for some programms.
And no android/ubuntu touch
PLain ubuntu has been loaded on android tablets already and they have the same hardware as phones. Most linux software is open source and somewhat easily ported to ARM as is.
Yes, i know.
But i didn´t find something for a x86 phone and if for example full ubuntu on Motorola Razr I or Lenovo K900 is the same ubuntu like on a pc, where i also can run x86-only programms.
I have Lenovo Yoga 2 Tablet 10" with windows 8.1 (1051L)
its hard to use windows 8.1 on a tablet.
can i install Android on my tablet or even better ... dual boot with windows and android possible on this tablet?
it' fantastic. I have yoga 2 10 with android 1050L. It's very speed. but i think the problem is bootloader mods.
I think I would rath:cyclops:er run Android as the primary OS and the run Windows as a VM.
pateken said:
it' fantastic. I have yoga 2 10 with android 1050L. It's very speed. but i think the problem is bootloader mods.
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How do you do that ? I need WM for a private app.
Successfully booted Android 4.4 R3 X86 from USB...
Hey all,
I have successfully managed to boot the 4.4 R3 efi img file from Android X86 on my 1051F. It's working pretty well, very smooth, but pretty much none of the hardware works (GPS, WIFI, Bluetooth, rotation, sound, etc).
Anyone have any idea how we could fix that? The process for getting it to boot is actually pretty easy. You download the img file from the android x86 site, use Rufus to create a bootable USB key (being sure to set it to GPT for EFI). You then need to disable secure boot on the tablet (instructions found various places on the net if you don't know how), shutdown the tablet, connect the USB key via OTG cable to the tablet, hold the volume up and power on. You will get into the NOVO menu. Once there, select boot menu and boot from the USB key (if it's not listed you probably didn't create the USB key in GPT, or it was detected when you powered on).
In order for it to boot into Android, you'll need a USB keyboard connected to select the android option. Alternately, you can just modify grub.cfg to set a default option and a timeout (which is what I did).
I'd really love it if anyone can provide some input on how to fix the missing drivers. Since the 1050 tablet is basically the identical hardware, I would think it should be easy to get the drivers over to this image, but I just don't know how.
Any help greatly appreciated!
mantatia said:
Hey all,
I'd really love it if anyone can provide some input on how to fix the missing drivers. Since the 1050 tablet is basically the identical hardware, I would think it should be easy to get the drivers over to this image, but I just don't know how.
Any help greatly appreciated!
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I know it sounds basic, but have you tried getting the drivers from here: http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/products/tablets/yoga-series/yoga-tablet-2-1051
I wanted to do a fresh install of Windows 10 and I got the drivers from this place.
tejaswy said:
I know it sounds basic, but have you tried getting the drivers from here:
I wanted to do a fresh install of Windows 10 and I got the drivers from this place.
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Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm pretty sure they only provide Windows drivers there. From my experience, Android drivers tend to need to be part of the image you install from, though I'm sure more advanced users could probably add drivers to a live install.
I'll take a look anyway, just to make sure, though.
EDIT: Just checked and, as I thought, only Windows 8 and 10 drivers. Realistically Lenovo don't support running Android on the 1051F, so it's pretty unlikely that they'd ever post drivers like that, unfortunately.
mantatia said:
Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm pretty sure they only provide Windows drivers there. From my experience, Android drivers tend to need to be part of the image you install from, though I'm sure more advanced users could probably add drivers to a live install.
I'll take a look anyway, just to make sure, though.
EDIT: Just checked and, as I thought, only Windows 8 and 10 drivers. Realistically Lenovo don't support running Android on the 1051F, so it's pretty unlikely that they'd ever post drivers like that, unfortunately.
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My apologies. I misread the post. I thought you were looking for the windows drivers. I am sorry to have given you unnecessary hope!
What's this got to do with the Tab S?
wanted modified grub.cfg, please share
wanted modified grub.cfg, please share
mantatia said:
Hey all,
I have successfully managed to boot the 4.4 R3 efi img file from Android X86 on my 1051F. It's working pretty well, very smooth, but pretty much none of the hardware works (GPS, WIFI, Bluetooth, rotation, sound, etc).
Anyone have any idea how we could fix that? The process for getting it to boot is actually pretty easy. You download the img file from the android x86 site, use Rufus to create a bootable USB key (being sure to set it to GPT for EFI). You then need to disable secure boot on the tablet (instructions found various places on the net if you don't know how), shutdown the tablet, connect the USB key via OTG cable to the tablet, hold the volume up and power on. You will get into the NOVO menu. Once there, select boot menu and boot from the USB key (if it's not listed you probably didn't create the USB key in GPT, or it was detected when you powered on).
In order for it to boot into Android, you'll need a USB keyboard connected to select the android option. Alternately, you can just modify grub.cfg to set a default option and a timeout (which is what I did).
I'd really love it if anyone can provide some input on how to fix the missing drivers. Since the 1050 tablet is basically the identical hardware, I would think it should be easy to get the drivers over to this image, but I just don't know how.
Any help greatly appreciated!
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So i know the Intel atom in this thing supports Windows 10. I just can't figure out how to get the Windows 10 install disk to boot. Custom boot loader?
AceHack00 said:
So i know the Intel atom in this thing supports Windows 10. I just can't figure out how to get the Windows 10 install disk to boot. Custom boot loader?
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Custom rom that microsoft has provided.... Win 10 is free for all device's.... Tho you may need a custom recovery in some cases.... Theres also a program that microsoft has that will convert it as long as you have root and able to connect it through usb...
ErocKxMoBz said:
Custom rom that microsoft has provided.... Win 10 is free for all device's.... Tho you may need a custom recovery in some cases.... Theres also a program that microsoft has that will convert it as long as you have root and able to connect it through usb...
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This is... Just wrong. Microsoft provides no special tool to convert android devices into windows 10. They have released Windows 10 Mobile ROMs for 2 devices and they aren't distributed in a way that they can be ported.
Nt true i have a few tablets with intel inside that ran on android i just ran the roms with a bootloader and yea as for the program its not by microsoft exacly but a company they own.. And another thing look at china they have tens of thousands of differnt devices that run both virtualy. Using a custom bootloader
ErocKxMoBz said:
Nt true i have a few tablets with intel inside that ran on android i just ran the roms with a bootloader and yea as for the program its not by microsoft exacly but a company they own.. And another thing look at china they have tens of thousands of differnt devices that run both virtualy. Using a custom bootloader
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Got any links or how to?
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Got any links or how to?
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No. And there won't be.
ErocKxMoBz said:
Nt true i have a few tablets with intel inside that ran on android i just ran the roms with a bootloader and yea as for the program its not by microsoft exacly but a company they own.. And another thing look at china they have tens of thousands of differnt devices that run both virtualy. Using a custom bootloader
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Ok, those Intel tablets you refer to probably use a legacy bios booting system, which would support both Android in the x86 variant, and Windows x86. And MAYBE they support a custom bootloader, but I doubt it (you could provide some links as proof). If you refer to the Windows 10 Mobile ROM released for the Chinese phone a while back. That is literally the one exception, but it isn't Windows 10. Its Windows 10 Mobile, which isn't nearly as full featured, and provides no admin level access. And before someone mentions it, NO this cannot be ported to other devices, Android is much easier to port due to the fact that we know how things function due to the Open Source nature of Android, but Windows is not, and likely never will be Open Source.
Now, onto the "custom bootloader" you refer to. Firstly, no Nexus device EVER has been able to run a custom bootloader (lest I mention the Nexus One with S-OFF). All Nexus devices EVER (yes, even after unlocking the bootloader) enforce aboot (high level bootloader) signature verification, they just don't enforce kernel/recovery partition signature checks when the bootloader is unlocked. This means that flashing an unsigned bootloader (no, you can't sign a bootloader yourself, it would have to be released by Google, which they have NEVER done).
You also mentioned running it virtually? Did you mean like Hardware virtualization like VirtualBox and VMware? Good luck finding a functional x86 Virtual Machine manager for Android that doesn't run horribly.
And without links, or any proof, I have never heard of Microsoft (or any subsidiary) releasing a tool to convert Android phones into Windows phones. Because, it just isn't that simple. You don't just install a program and boom, its Windows 10. It requires a complete re-flash of the device, and different bootloader (which I told you is impossible on this device above), it would also require drivers that are more than likely closed source, or don't exist for the Windows platform.
Don't just go saying things you /think/ are possible. Just cause a CPU architecture matches the requirement of the OS doesn't mean that that. OS will ever run. Much more is required.
My final goal is to install Linux desktop on a YB1-X90L android version.
I'm a linux guy but not familiar with android bootloader / storage. Can I assume that it's still a x86/x64 PC, and all stuff (bootloader etc) is storaged in normal disk?
(That means if I can boot into a normal Linux, there is a chance to dump everything or overwrite them with normal Linux installation.)
The biggest problem is that I cannot boot into a Linux liveusb: I can't find a place to change boot device order. It always starts with pre-installed linux even if a USB drive is attached.
Any idea will be welcome. :cyclops:
spoke to customer support on the same. The Bios for windows tablets and android ones are different. Windows tablets comes with secureboot and TPM built in. What you're looking for can be done on a windows tablet by switching off secureboot to boot from USB. But assured, the touch screen wont work, nor the bluetooth keyboard. Basically we're stuck with whatever OS the book is shipped with. Do not try to change it by yourself. Lenovo offers no support for such.
You could try this at your own risk.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/th.../ubuntu-yoga-tab-3-pro-proof-concept-t3565366
I have no confirmation yet of this working on the yogabook but saw a post where a fella had messed up his yogabook and could only get to the bios, his bios looked the same as mine on my yoga tab 3 pro.
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You could try this at your own risk.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/th.../ubuntu-yoga-tab-3-pro-proof-concept-t3565366
I have no confirmation yet of this working on the yogabook but saw a post where a fella had messed up his yogabook and could only get to the bios, his bios looked the same as mine on my yoga tab 3 pro.
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Thanks to @danjac this method is confirmed as working on yogabook.
He did say he had to enter the adb commands it twrp terminal under advanced settings.
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Anything that's not function after installation?
configrmed working my eye
most computer past 2010 have tpm chips. They do more than secure boot and well, the boots not secure anyway. Things which are confirmed working have youtube videos and guides. They are also titled properly. I understand that the lenova book is also a cherry trail but seeing how there is no proof this works on a yoga book can we delete the guys conjecture about the tab3. Thats pretty ignorant. Out side of claiming some thing works that you obviously havn't tried, this android device comes with its own bios ( not legacy insyde) try china proprietary . Which is software fwi. It is what would be loaded on the efi partition for windows to manually load uefi boot menu off. They do not load off tpm chips, they are verified there. They load directly off your esp partition so without it, there is no way in hell you are getting dual boot to work via bios methods. Look into multi boot tassadar, compiling from source, doing research on not listening to that guy who just posts random links as if it means some thing. Your ability to re post others work does not make your smart. Get a job and stop misleading people
Hello!
As you may know, win10 arm has already been ported to lumia 950 - sd820 device.
The challenge is to make, hack, port the UEFI to install it on our Sony devices.
As I'm a noob I wantto know if this is achieveble to be able to multi boot android and win10 arm. Maybe from there we can do intresting things like root, drm back-up etc.
Waiting your comments on this.
I don't know what is need for UEFI but I think whole new bootloader is reguired for that, but getting it on our sony device which have trim area partition at the start of emmc I think whole thing is very nonportable.... here is some initial work https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2507665 by Cottula (xda legend on legendary HTC HD2 multi os phone). First reguirement is getting LK (litle kernel bootloader) bootable but I think thats useles because you need to replace sony bootloader which is not replaceable. Even if you somehow get a way to replace bootloader there would be nightmare porting LK to our devices. Sony is not very development friendly device I can say that with 99 percent sure at least for two models which I owned, not blaming it but just my experience with them, third phone no thanks, I'm waiting this one https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/ for the next phone, hope I get finally my and only my own phone and hope it get runing what I want and not what somebody want. Win 10 on xperia? Good luck!
With all respect for you, Munjeni, but:
1. Win 10 ARM can be installed in QEMU virtual machine
https://winaero.com/blog/install-windows-10-arm-qemu/
2. QEMU is available for android
https://github.com/subho007/qemu-android/blob/master/INSTALL
3. Can you install QEMU then Windows 10 ARM then boot win10 from QEMU and see if it has acces to the storage?
My bet is that from there we can make a full backup, bit by bit of all partitions, regarding that the data will be encrypted, it does not afect us. It can be restored later encrypted as it was
Are you willing to try?
Z2 tablet has a windows 10 arm on it however due to legal issues it wasn't released https://plus.google.com/+kholk/posts/ayf2C2saF4Y
Inerent said:
With all respect for you, Munjeni, but:
1. Win 10 ARM can be installed in QEMU virtual machine
https://winaero.com/blog/install-windows-10-arm-qemu/
2. QEMU is available for android
https://github.com/subho007/qemu-android/blob/master/INSTALL
3. Can you install QEMU then Windows 10 ARM then boot win10 from QEMU and see if it has acces to the storage?
My bet is that from there we can make a full backup, bit by bit of all partitions, regarding that the data will be encrypted, it does not afect us. It can be restored later encrypted as it was
Are you willing to try?
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Not going to try that have no free time right now for anything phones, pc...etc related but thats interesting I must admit. In the same time I don't own 64bit device so I can't try even if I get any idea
Sdio emmc 5.1 controller... Win driver ?