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So I've been wondering about this, sooner or later Samsung was bound to stop supporting our phones. I am wondering some people seem to mention missing stuff in CM7(soon to be 9). What are these issues and how can we deal with them?
How do other ports of CM for other phones deal with these issues too?
Firstly, this disclaimer is for the unintelligent
I DO NOT KNOW HOW LEGITIMATE THIS WEBSITE IS, DO NOT THINK I AM PROMOTING IT
Anyways, how are phones like these, does anyone know better sites?
http://www.dhgate.com/wholesale/sea...tory=&searchkey=android+phone&catalog=#search
I assume these are just chinese knockoff phones. Most seem to model off the s3 but....how are the phones? If there specs don't lie, they seem like very nice pieces of tech for the price! I have my anciet evo 4g because I misplaced my s2 and don't want to pay $600 for a new phone.
If these phones are indeed half way decent, what do I need to look for to obtain a phone compatible with sprint? From what I see nothing advertises wimax, which, I would be slightly sad to lose, but if everything else works on these things just find, I won't mind losing the wimax.
If this topic has been covered, or you have a simple link to address, please just post the link and don't tell me to look harder. I have looked and nothing seemed to fit for a good answer.
Thank you for the help!
Well, I have found this phone so far
http://android-sale.com/star-lt29i-4-5-inch-qhd-1ghz-dual-core-mt6577-5mp-camera-android-phone.html
and it looks like it's the best from what I've poked around....Would this work with Sprint? I will go in there soon and ask their policy on these kinds of phones. It says it supports WCDMA, and I think sprint uses CDMA, and I have no idea how the two related and the internet doesn't seem to help on informing me if sprint could use the device.
Lastly, where would I go for help/tools to root and ROM the device?I assume something like superone click may work, but if I do end up getting one of these phones, I'll ask more about rooting and whatnot in the android section.
Personally, I think they're poor value even if you but one from a maker who isn't lying about the hardware specs.
You're almost certainly not going to be getting any kind of custom development - the sources are most likely not even there to work from and the devices aren't popular enough for it to happen.
You can get something similar when buying a legitimate phone that's popular overseas - development is possible there, but you'd have to look into it.
The lack of support and potential to get something other than puts me off buying such a device - you know how you can buy an SD card that says "32Gb" on it and it's only like 5Mb or whatever ? Think about that - your phone might say it has 32Gb internal memory but you might really have 2Gb or less and you might get 254 or 512 RAM. You might be able to root, might not.
As for network compatibility, just look up what bands Sprint uses, compare, and hope the information is correct.
You might find a "good" clone with good reviews, but you lose the "value" that is development and support. What is that worth in dollars ?
Personally, I'd rather just get a used S2 or something. You can get a used S3 for $400-ish if you're lucky, S2 is $200-ish, I think. I'd go for something like that - something that was popular and had good development and support in its day and likely continues to have some even now. I can't put a cash value on that.
Pennycake said:
Personally, I think they're poor value even if you but one from a maker who isn't lying about the hardware specs.
You're almost certainly not going to be getting any kind of custom development - the sources are most likely not even there to work from and the devices aren't popular enough for it to happen.
You can get something similar when buying a legitimate phone that's popular overseas - development is possible there, but you'd have to look into it.
The lack of support and potential to get something other than puts me off buying such a device - you know how you can buy an SD card that says "32Gb" on it and it's only like 5Mb or whatever ? Think about that - your phone might say it has 32Gb internal memory but you might really have 2Gb or less and you might get 254 or 512 RAM. You might be able to root, might not.
As for network compatibility, just look up what bands Sprint uses, compare, and hope the information is correct.
You might find a "good" clone with good reviews, but you lose the "value" that is development and support. What is that worth in dollars ?
Personally, I'd rather just get a used S2 or something. You can get a used S3 for $400-ish if you're lucky, S2 is $200-ish, I think. I'd go for something like that - something that was popular and had good development and support in its day and likely continues to have some even now. I can't put a cash value on that.
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Do you have any suggestions on a good place to get a used s2? Actually, i may get my old s2 back soon.... Which would be lovely and solve my issues. I am curious though. Maybe later this year I will check some of the knockoff phones, just to test them and review them. I see your point, and it was my concern as well. I've always disliked phone companies and their support, and I assumed I could easily get some working rom and root, but tinkering with experimental builds for daily use is enough risk for me already. Adding a phone with a possibility to fail on me at any moment, probably isn't a good idea. These devices have too little real info sadly
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The thing is, even if Samsung isn't giving updates, they've still released enough of their source for people to work with to develop custom ROMs. The companies that sell the clone phones and such don't do this, so making a custom ROM isn't possible. Developers tend to like to either work on projects for their own devices, or ones that will get a large audience for their work, so even if there was material to work from, these wouldn't be very attractive targets for development. Most US phone customers still get their phones from their service providers, for better or worse.
Anyway - eBay, Craigslist, or one of hose sites for specifically selling mobile devices. I think you said you're with Sprint? You have to make sure the ESN is good in that case, is the biggest concern. I've never had to do this since I'm with T-Mobile (uses SIM cards, not ESN), but I'm sure there's advice out there on how to avoid being scammed.
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Is there any way to use the Ink Effect from Galaxy Note II (also used on GSIII) on the Nexus 10? A port or something would be possible? I'm sure many of us would love this, I guess answer will be no, but I don't lose anything by asking it. Thanks.
Noone has any clue?
Noone really?
Most people probably have no idea what you even mean by "ink effect"
And besides, if you want proprietary things that a certain phone has, buy that phone.
EniGmA1987 said:
Most people probably have no idea what you even mean by "ink effect"
And besides, if you want proprietary things that a certain phone has, buy that phone.
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That's ink effect: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NBUL46wvr4
And im saying if anyone knows if it's possible to port. Sounds good what you say, so if an app for example does not work in my device, you are telling me to buy another device to make it work, yea sounds pretty good.
If it was that way there wouldn't be many roms that actually exist, thanks to other phones, that they can be ported from.
If you are going to comment, atleast get some argumments and make a point.
He is right if you want the feature you should get the device that has the feature. Also the internals of the Nexus 10 and the Note II are completely different so porting would be extremely difficult if not impossible. Also to software is completely different. The Note II runs Samsung proprietary software and the Nexus is ASOP. Software like HTC and Samsung use one their devices are almost complete rewrites of ICS. Or Jellybean and have very little in common with ASOP.
Hello note 3 users. My SGS3 died recently, and Im currently looking for an upgrade. I'm keen on Note 3 (N9005) but I have few questions I need to ask since we all know what kind of a company samsung is.
1. Are there any issues on AOSP roms caused by closed source libraries? Like HWC not working, camera issues etc?
2 .Are there any un-rootable variats of note 3 which I should avoid buying?
Thanks in advance, feel free to add anything i should know.
1. No problem, only the S Note stuff doesn't work (S Note app, Aircommand, ...) but the S Pen works.
2. I think the Verzion version has a locked bootloader so avoid it if you can.
I don't get it, exactly what kind of company Samsung is? Please enlighten us about this, as new users it would be good to know from an already experienced person.
ithehappy said:
I don't get it, exactly what kind of company Samsung is? Please enlighten us about this, as new users it would be good to know from an already experienced person.
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http://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-exynos-and-aosp-explained-a-story-of-betrayal/
I'd also like to know if there's any reason why note 3 didn't get official CM13 yet? Is it lacking maintainers?
First of all, Knox doesn't mean a thing in Europe. According to European law, if the device is broken and you send it for a warranty repair, the service center can only refuse to repair if they can prove that the defect is caused by the user.
For example, if your headphone jack stops working, they can never link it to the Knox trigger, and they will have to repair your phone.
In Romania for example, official Samsung repair centers know only about the Knox app and what it does, but they never heard of this Knox trigger and they have no clue what it means. I bull**** you not, I personally have a friend that works in a big electronics shop very popular in my country, which collaborates with this service center for Samsung warranty repairs. When he asked them about the Knox trigger, they had no idea whatsoever what that means.
Second of all, AOSP roms don't work very well on this device. Well, they do, they don't actually have any bugs, but all of them suffer from one big problem: the battery life is very, very, very bad compared to the stock touch wiz roms. And there's no drain, if you inspect the battery usage you won't notice any strange behavior, but the battery just decreases very fast.
Also an important thing you have to take into account on AOSP roms, none of them support the s-pen features. People will recommend you all kinds of third party options, and some of them are great, but nothing compares to the stock air command and all of the features it has. It doesn't even get close.
Third, galaxy note 3 is starting to show its age. It's not a bad device by any means, it's still a solid performer, but the new flagships have way better specs and soon a lot of apps will not be as optimized on the note 3 as they will on these newer devices.
Just the OS updates alone aren't very snappy on the note 3. I updated to lollipop and I really miss how well kitkat performed, but it was soooo ugly. If you get used to the lollipop UI and animations, you just can't go back to kitkat.
If you insist on AOSP roms, there's really no point at all in getting the note. If you want a phablet and can't afford the latest and greatest, get the Motorola nexus 6. If you prefer something a bit more portable, consider the nexus 5x.
You can't go wrong with any of the more recent nexus devices, note 3 is already dead update-wise.
The thing is, I'm on a limited budget for a phone. I can spend only ~~250$ which is enough to buy used note 3 ( in a good condition ). With this money I simply cant afford nexus 6. I only care about big amoled screen, 3gigs of ram( since every phone i changed was because of too little ram) and proper aosp support. Thats why I chose note 3. I dont care about spen features since I wont use it too much.
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Hi all,
actually i am thinking of why i should root my phone. In the past i rooted all my android devices. I also did not care about knox trigger. But as i maybe want to try out samsung pay when it reaches switzerland i did not root my s7 edge yet. The really basic thing i wanted was to have an ad free phone. And thanks to adguard and ogyoutube i don't have any ad at all (ok sometimes there is a popup comming while browsing but this i did not look into further yet.
But now i might have a new reason to root the device, but i have not seen my need. So i am not sure if its possible.
I have the keyboard cover from samsung. I love it but it has a big big problem. As soon as the keyboard is attached to the front it disables always on display. So i am wondering if anybody is working on a rooted/nonrooted solution for that. It would be perfect if the aod would be shown only in the visible part of the screen with keyboard attached to the front. Is it possible at all or would we have to wait and hope that samsung fixes this?
Thanks
Personally, I wouldn't root for a thing like that. Once you root, it'll trigger Knox, which means that Samsung Pay will never work again, and your warranty is also void, so I would really think about it before rooting. Sure, Samsung Pay isn't that big of a reason for many, including me (since I can't use it yet, like you), but it's still a brand new device, and I would personally hold off for a bit. I would certainly not root just for some accessory.
Also, regarding your question, I have no idea. I don't know if there are any root-apps that solves your problem, but I doubt it? Maybe the S6 Edge has something, so you could head over to that section and look in the "Themes and apps" forum?
Basic problem is that always on display was released with the s7/s7e so i doubt to find anything in the s6 section. Except the hope to get root on s7 also without triggering knox like it seems to exist for s6.
Waranty is no problem. I work for a cellphone provider so i have enough phones around me. And i never had any problems with rooted devices beside the own made problems playing to much with roms and so on but the problem with samsung original accessory and the always on display is a big thing. Lot of customers are complaining and i also want it to work.. so all in all it would be worth rooting for me
a couple of things here. first someone said something like they wouldn't chance rooting for for something like that... my initial response, is why would you buy a powerful device like this, and NOT root it? i mean, if you didn't want to be able to use all that power, why not buy a cheaper device? if you don't root, this device belongs more to samsung and your carrier, than it does you. and you have little control over it. next, never understood people worrying about triggering knox. what exactly does that do, that you are so afraid of. i have been rooting for years, and have sent a couple of my devices in which needed warranty repair, and they always did it, WITH knox tripped. lastly, always on is triggered by the ambient light sensor. so if that is covered, it will turn off, as in if you put your phone facedown on a surface. so you need to make sure that your case has an opening to allow light through to this sensor. hope this helps.
I've rooted my s7 edge in the first week I got it thinking I could use my ps4 controller for the gear vr,but I couldn't. Knox tripped. Installed xposed modules. Bam awesome device! I see Samsung pay as a waste of time, here in Australia, Eftpos payments are used everywhere and I don't see how using my phone to pay will be more convenient and faster than taking my card out of my wallet.