So I have updated to MM 6.0.1 and experience bad battery life. I have done a factory reset 2 times and still losing approx 1.5% of battery per hour and only seeing the phone go into deep sleep approx 50% of the time according to better battery stats. Before the MM update when I was on lollipop I was seeing a battery loss of about .7% / hr and 90+% deep sleep time for similar usage.
I have disabled all of the bloatware I can (including facebook and flipboard) but still no luck. I am going to go back to 5.1.1 unless someone has any other ideas on what is eating through the battery life with MM.
My battery life has been awful also after the MM update. In fact, it has been terrible ever since Kitkat. I have tried different batteries and hard resets, nothing helps. I am going to try another hard reset because Bluetooth is draining my battery like crazy even though I am not even using it (#1 drain right now). The software for the note 4 has been such a huge disappointment!
great b life, i dont use bluetooth...i really like this update
do you use Package disabler ? i have probably 12 apps disabled..helps a great deal
I do use package disabler and had many more that 12 packages disabled but even with BT off I was seeing a 1.5+% drop/hr. I have now gone back to 5.1.1 to test it out for a few days and verify that battery life is back to normal on it.
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My battery life has been awful also after the MM update. In fact, it has been terrible ever since Kitkat. I have tried different batteries and hard resets, nothing helps. I am going to try another hard reset because Bluetooth is draining my battery like crazy even though I am not even using it (#1 drain right now). The software for the note 4 has been such a huge disappointment!
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Go to settings, backup and reset, press reset network settings. It'll reset wifi, bluetooth and network settings. Helped some people
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can anyone tell me if the marshmallow update gives us android users? i know users are not available in 5.1.1 but was hoping it would be in marshmallow.
I've been getting great battery life on MM but I'm running an S7 port on my Note 4. I'm currently at 1d20h with 6% battery left.
Battery life is usually not too good after a factory reset. Give it a couple two or three days and then re-evaluate.
I've been on the Jasmine ROM for about a day and for me, battery life isn't that much worse than it was when I was on 5.1.1.
Also keep in mind the age of a given battery. Like a new car, as soon as you roll it off the showroom floor it begins losing value.... LiOn batteries have a limited number of charge cycles, and after the first handful, you can pretty quickly see faster discharge times. This is accelerated with heat, which tends to happen when you install a new ROM, because you're hitting the screen and processor pretty hard for long periods of time. Also, avoid charging the battery while the phone is hot, that will also accelerate the wear on the battery.
This is one of the reasons the Note 4 is still a great phone today: removable battery! Get yourself a replacement or two, they're cheap and it's always good to have a spare on hand.
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Battery life is usually not too good after a factory reset. Give it a couple two or three days and then re-evaluate.
I've been on the Jasmine ROM for about a day and for me, battery life isn't that much worse than it was when I was on 5.1.1.
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I did give MM several days to settle in after a factory reset but still no better battery life. I do not that if you are on JasmineRom that you must have rooted the MM version to install it. I am considering doing the same but was concerned that I would not see any better battery life with it either.
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This is probably a rough test but how much battery did you lose when you switched to art if you did? I was on 32% battery when art had finished switching over I was on 16% that's some drop, I know the CPU and ram must have a lot to do but come on.
The battery life I've had from this has been dire, I've been over the apps, I've lessened and lessened everything, I literally can't cut back any more, so the prospect of seeing 3 days etc just isn't going to happen, hence why I switch to ART runtime instead, I wanted to see if there was any gains, and yet in the time it's taken me to write this post, I've lost 2%.
Please can anyone clarify that this is happening to them too?
I'm coming from an S5 and i thought that was OK, but on the note 4 the battery is awful.
Will see ART out for the day and see how it goes.
In testing ART too but need to run a full week to get a real fell for performance and battery changes.
As for the switching drop, it's normal to lost 15-20% as all apps need recompiling but it's a onetime thing (unless you restart your phone), in which case it'll do the same again. So, don't restart!
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Haven't restarted m8, but the battery is etrocious from what I've seen up til now, I haven't even rooted.
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Haven't restarted m8, but the battery is etrocious from what I've seen up til now, I haven't even rooted.
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Well you had to have restarted when you switched to Art, otherwise the change wouldn't have been applied. That explains your battery drop, so nothing to worry about there.
As for battery life in general, my non-rooted Note4 consistently gets about 5-6 hours of screen time and about 25 hours total run time. Note 4 battery is pretty good actually. Check out the battery life threads for comparison and see from there. Maybe something up with your particular model or a rogue app draining battery.
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Well you had to have restarted when you switched to Art, otherwise the change wouldn't have been applied. That explains your battery drop, so nothing to worry about there.
As for battery life in general, my non-rooted Note4 consistently gets about 5-6 hours of screen time and about 25 hours total run time. Note 4 battery is pretty good actually. Check out the battery life threads for comparison and see from there. Maybe something up with your particular model or a rogue app draining battery.
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It was in reply to the previous user who said "Unless you restart"
Anyway, battery life is slightly better, I got 1 day and 20 hours with light ish use, so i'm happy with that, I have turned power saver on though.
And it isn't an app trust me, streamlining a phone is one of my strong points.
hello everyone, I'm a new note owner, I bought it used and I think it has two years on it, but it is in great shape. I noticed however, that the battery life isn't that amazing as people have told me, this coming from a Galaxy alpha user. I will leave screenshots of today's battery life and I think it isn't that amazing what it got
I've heard about battery miscalibration, is this really a thing? I can try and calibrated but I need to root it, & I wasn't really looking forward to reading it, since its lollipop on stock rom.
The screenshots are bellow of screen on time and total time, you can see that it's not consistent and I charge my phone two times a day.
http://imgur.com/a/ShaLI
I'm using lollipop official rom flashed on Odin via download mode, yes the rom is compatible with my country's frequencies so there's not really a problem there.
I notice however that the battery sort of goes down faster sometimes more than others, sometimes even going as far as draining 10% simply being on stand-by with LTE enabled for 2 hours in my pocket when I'm in class.
Is this normal behavior?
I don't think there is any such thing called miscalibration, I mean I am not sure, but well.
If your phone is 2 years old, then I think the battery has seen its life, time to get a new one mate.
Battery recalibrates itself .
However as the battery is old then Drain the battery to 5% power off charge fully unplug wait one hour top up charge and use .
Next step is new battery Anker brand is good .
Wiping battery stats/ supposed calibration has nothing to do with battery calibration and will make no difference .
Lithium-ion batteries last about 300-500 charging cycles, after that the risk of it dying increases exponentially. Some last 5 years, some 1. It depends on usage and environmental factors.
There is no such thing as recalibrating a modern lithium ion battery. It doesn't have a memory.
New battery costs about 20 quid, it should solve the problem.
Also, did you do a reset after the update? Updates can cause battery drain too, quite often.
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No, I did not do a reset after the update. But I noticed this before updating to lollipop, I had to do some running around before I got home the day I bought it, and it was running KitKat 4.4. I got it with 93% of battery, walked home for a bit and was down to 65, went to the shopping and back, got home with 40 to 35%. (I bought the phone at around 5 pm and finally got home after going to the mall at around 8pm)
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No, I did not do a reset after the update. But I noticed this before updating to lollipop, I had to do some running around before I got home the day I bought it, and it was running KitKat 4.4. I got it with 93% of battery, walked home for a bit and was down to 65, went to the shopping and back, got home with 40 to 35%. (I bought the phone at around 5 pm and finally got home after going to the mall at around 8pm)
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Then it's the battery, most likely.
So I had Nougat ever since it came out and used it a lot, but went back to Marshmallow a couple of days ago because of:
...Battery life. No matter what apps, settings, versions (B360, B380, B381), recommendations etc. - Battery life is simply better and more reliable on Marshmallow. Yes, I know, I did factory resets, downgrade, upgrade via OTA, deactivated this and that, pretty much everything you read on the threads here and elsewhere, it still couldn't catch up to Marshmallow. Don't get me wrong, battery life on Nougat is not terrible - I even convinced myself over the months that it is pretty much the same or even better, but that's simply just wishful thinking. As soon as I downgraded I could notice a significant improvement.
What do I mean by improvement? For once it is more reliable meaning I know what I get. On Nougat I had days where I got 3 hours SOT, then 4 or 5 on others. I had 2 percent stanby drain per hour, then 5, then 1 - it was just more random. On Marshmallow I always get pretty much the same. Stanby drain of 1 percent or less per hour and SOT of 6 or more hours (I'm at 3:40 SOT at the moment with 18 hours and 45 minutes since the last charge and exactly 50 percent battery left). So not only is it more reliable, it also gives me more SOT and lower standby drain.
Regarding the standby drain: When installing apps like ForceDoze on Marshmallow, it lets the device enter Deep Doze the minute I turn off the phone (meaning I often have deep doze rates of above 98%) which leads to little to almost no standby drain without losing any benefits (notifications still come through when added to the whitelist). Deep sleeps rates are also above 90 percent. With Nougat deeps sleep rates are only around 80 percent (given the same apps, settings etc.) and doze rates are much worse. Yes, I know all about light and deep doze, but light doze doesn't start until 5 minutes after the device is turned off (even with apps like ForceDoze) and those 5 minutes add up, especially if you are checking your device often. Also, it doesn't enter deep doze which arguably consumes less power until much later (often hours) and there is also no way I could change that with ForceDoze or Greenify. What's more, the ForceDoze setting of "ignore device movement" actually works on Marshmallow but didn't reliably work on Nougat meaning the deivce enters and stays in deep doze the minute you turn off your phone even if you are moving or driving etc. This made the difference between Marshmallow and Nougat even greater for me when driving or walking around town.
One additional thing I noticed. is that Android System and Kernel (Android OS) usage was higher on Nougat than on Marshmallow, which also worsened battery life on Nougat for me. Again, this could be reliably replicated with the same apps, settings etc.
Granted, everything else is pretty much better on Nougat (speed, UI, notification bar, lock-screen, security updates, additional features etc.), but if you value battery life above everyhing else (which I do), I still think Marshmallow is the best on the Honor 8 and, frankly, I don't see the point of updating to a newer version of Android if it doesn't come with at least the same battery life, as it is one of the most central features of a phone. I don't know and don't really care whether it's Nougat itself or Honor, I just hope that eventually (maybe with B38X or B39X), battery life will fully match that of Marshmallow. What do you guys think? What's your experience?
I never used MM longer than a day or two before upgrading to N, so I can't comment on which is better, but I can confirm that (with N) I've seen random days where the battery drain is unreal during standby, and other days when it hardly drains at all during standby. But ever since I performed a factory reset after upgrading to N, the drain has been very predictable. Standby drain is minimal and SOT is 6+ hrs. Hard for me to complain when I couldn't get that much SOT from the Sony Xperia Z3 Compact on KK, and that was a battery champ! I finally feel like I'm getting the newest features and great battery life at the same time.
You need a choice for people who never used MM in your pole to make it more accurate.
My wife just got her Honor 8 today. It's on Marshmallow. Mine is on the latest Nogat. Each update killed my battery life not significantly but noticably. I can relate to you wanting to downgrade.
While I never had an Honor 8 with Marshmallow, I was about to update her phone to the latest until I saw this thread and am glad I didn't. If Oreo fixes battery life issues, I'll happily update both our phones to it.
For her, this is her first Android and is coming from Apple. Last thing I wanna do is give her an excuse (battery life is a great one) to go back to Apple.
And the funny thing is....she doesn't care about the app tray like most of us Android users lol
Let's see how this pans out!
tiguy99 said:
My wife just got her Honor 8 today. It's on Marshmallow. Mine is on the latest Nogat. Each update killed my battery life not significantly but noticably. I can relate to you wanting to downgrade.
While I never had an Honor 8 with Marshmallow, I was about to update her phone to the latest until I saw this thread and am glad I didn't. If Oreo fixes battery life issues, I'll happily update both our phones to it.
For her, this is her first Android and is coming from Apple. Last thing I wanna do is give her an excuse (battery life is a great one) to go back to Apple.
And the funny thing is....she doesn't care about the app tray like most of us Android users lol
Let's see how this pans out!
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An older battery compared to a new one. One lasts longer, that's so crazy to think batteries might depreciate over time. ?
I bet you think you can kill your battery by leaving it plugged in too.
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An older battery compared to a new one. One lasts longer, that's so crazy to think batteries might depreciate over time. ?
I bet you think you can kill your battery by leaving it plugged in too.
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I like this guy.
Good to see there's still a few "passionate battery life" folks left on XDA.
I was almost starting to forget how good it felt to run into another one of you.
Keep hope alive my brother!
Keep hope alive
After upgrading to Nougat (clan install, wipe, etc) my baterry is really worst. It is like 30-60 min less SoT than before and 60-90min less active phone, with same config, same apps, etc. Also, the phone is a lot less awake than before. After 1 year of waiting can't believe this...
How about the rest?
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After upgrading to Nougat (clan install, wipe, etc) my baterry is really worst. It is like 30-60 min less SoT than before and 60-90min less active phone, with same config, same apps, etc. Also, the phone is a lot less awake than before. After 1 year of waiting can't believe this...
How about the rest?
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Dude you guys have to let the update settle in..you won't get accurate battery usage for at least 5 or 6 charge discharge cycles.
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Dude you guys have to let the update settle in..you won't get accurate battery usage for at least 5 or 6 charge discharge cycles.
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Dude, hate this kind of things. Why you think i am dumb enougth to post this without letting the battery settle down? I did the upgrade two weeks ago and have at least 30-40 full charges-discharge cycles because i use the phone a lot and now have to charge it like 3 times a day. Also do the 0 to 100% calibration a lot of times and also use the normal charger too to compare. I use Gsam battery monitor to keep tracking the battery and the media values and keep my M.M. data stored to compare later. So, please, if you don't want to help me or post how is your battery life compare please don't make this kind of post thinking the other ones are dumb people or not understand how battery work on android.
Thanks, best regards.
It seems the radios are much less efficient in Nougat than Marshmallow when the signal is below average... is GSAM showing your radio with very high percentage of battery usage? Not much we can do about that, but some users have stated with poor signal the radios are using 30% of the battery and more (where in MM it was 5-10% when signal was poor). No fix yet and flashing MM radios doesn't seem to improve it, probably have to wait for an update. :/
If that doesn't explain it, try a cache wipe, then a factory reset... I am getting to a point I am recommending a factory reset for EVERYONE on this OTA, lots of weird little bugs that seem to be cleared up on a factory reset.
Impossible to believe but 7.0 is giving best battery life when compared to 6.0.
After updating to official nougat through ota moto x style (indian version) getting best battery performance. Getting around 4.5 to 5 hours on full cycle. Due to network error not able to post pictures.
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It seems the radios are much less efficient in Nougat than Marshmallow when the signal is below average... is GSAM showing your radio with very high percentage of battery usage? Not much we can do about that, but some users have stated with poor signal the radios are using 30% of the battery and more (where in MM it was 5-10% when signal was poor). No fix yet and flashing MM radios doesn't seem to improve it, probably have to wait for an update. :/
If that doesn't explain it, try a cache wipe, then a factory reset... I am getting to a point I am recommending a factory reset for EVERYONE on this OTA, lots of weird little bugs that seem to be cleared up on a factory reset.
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The most weird thing is that the % are the same as with M.M. so can figure out why it is drainning battery. Only a lot less time held awake from the kernell and a little bit more from screen. I tried wiping the cache like 10 times. Install and uninnstall google play services, also tried the play services beta to see if it is gettint better.
Also always do a factory reset after the install of an new OS to avoid problens, so it is a clean install. Another thing I notice is the unlinear behaviour of the battery. Maybe from 100 to 75 got 2 SoT screen time and from 75 to 10 got 1 hour.
Aniway I noticed what you are saying about the low signal drain. Last nigth i was in a place with almost no signal and the cellphone in standby mode drain like 40% in an hour.
For the others who has better battery i can't understand why i am getting less battery. I use it in the same way as marshmallow. Also i read other people having battery problems too. I will have to disable all moto features to see if i get an improvement.
Thanks to all!
Today i restart my phone. It was in 84% and after the reboot wen to 74%. Maybe the update ruinned my battery life? Really don't now what to do... I can try to change the battery but the phone is 9 month old... Anyone with a idea?
Edit: Further testing show me that everytime i reboot my phone i get a different % of battery. Also same usage get to really different battery results.
I'm getting ~2.25-2.5 hours of SOT. I've my 4G sim enabled for about 6-7 hours with mediocre signal strength. So not a good improvement over MM but that maybe because of 4G data. I need to check how it performs with only WiFi.
After Nougat update, I get about 15-20 minutes more SOT
I flashed the leaked Android Oreo OTA to my Verizon Galaxy S8 and am experiencing pretty terrible battery life. I'm getting about 2 1/2 hours of SoT which I find bad for 2018. Meanwhile, my Verizon LG V30 with Nougat is getting 5+ hours of SoT which drives me crazy. Any tips to improve? Also, how's your battery life with Oreo on your S8?
I haven't taken the dive for the Oreo beta based ROMs but have been following the threads and the consensus is that at present Oreo is no better than N, it actually seems to be a little worse for most, hence I'll wait for a while still before jumping to O, give it more time for fine tuning on the S8 by developers etc. just my opinion, plus I get 6 odd hours of SoT on my N custom ROM so I have no urgency to go to O until its more polished.
Terrible, i updated mine couple of weeks ago and noticed about this battery issue, it drains fast despite of disabling the likes of location, reducing the brightness, bluetooth. i informed samsung about it. Before i used it outside with a (-3 temperature since i live in Finland), it was fully charged 100%. I only used it NOT more than 5 minutes for videoing and taking pictures and that's it, i stayed outside for more than an hour. When i checked my battery it was 56% ! I know that cold temperature diminishes the battery performance but not to extent of that emptying the battery in half:
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Terrible, i updated mine couple of weeks ago and noticed about this battery issue, it drains fast despite of disabling the likes of location, reducing the brightness, bluetooth. i informed samsung about it. Before i used it outside with a (-3 temperature since i live in Finland), it was fully charged 100%. I only used it NOT more than 5 minutes for videoing and taking pictures and that's it, i stayed outside for more than an hour. When i checked my battery it was 56% ! I know that cold temperature diminishes the battery performance but not to extent of that emptying the battery in half:
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After I updated to Oreo I had horrible battery life as well... It one time dropped about 20% when the phone was resting with the screen off in the couch.
I disabled everything bixby related. Force closed, uninstalled updates, and disabled in every way possible.
Now I get decent battery life. I live in Sweden, we have -4°c today, and the phone worked just fine even outside. No significant battery drop.
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After I updated to Oreo I had horrible battery life as well... It one time dropped about 20% when the phone was resting with the screen off in the couch.
I disabled everything bixby related. Force closed, uninstalled updates, and disabled in every way possible.
Now I get decent battery life. I live in Sweden, we have -4°c today, and the phone worked just fine even outside. No significant battery drop.
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Is Android System percentage higher than normal? And what about screen on time on daily usage?
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Is Android System percentage higher than normal? And what about screen on time on daily usage?
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I haven't really measured it. But I got that fix update for the first CRAP update and I'm back to horrible battery life.
Hei,hello,hola,
I'm still struggling with my s8 battery life. Am I missing something to tweak. Can anyone give me more pointers to do. Help is more than appreciated.
Luukeri said:
Hei,hello,hola,
I'm still struggling with my s8 battery life. Am I missing something to tweak. Can anyone give me more pointers to do. Help is more than appreciated.
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you can try flash a custom kernel , are you using stock or custom rom ? which firmware?
I'm using the stock version. I'm not that tech expert to modify it although my phone is at developer version. Anything I can do more?
Thanks for your reply btw.
Ariel