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Guys, i might not be a active poster in this forum, but i am an active reader [100+ hits per day minimum]. Being a n00b in android developement, it might sound kinda funny. But WHAT ARE THE DEVS DOING! HAVE THEY MOVED TO ANOTHER DEVICE? I dont think its already time for the myTouch slide to be outdated. It has a 600 MHz processor, 512 MB RAM and other specs that are not outdated yet. Companies are still releasing phones having less specs than this. I see other phone's forums full of roms, kernels and other stuff. But i have been watching myTouch slide developement forum from few days, but there have been no posts at all, not even a clue of what the developers are doing. I didn't mean to be rude, but just wanted to say that MYTOUCH SLIDE IS NOT DEAD YET! And i want to thanks all the devs for all the ROMS and mods for mytouch. I appreciate your work eugene_373, wesgarner , kingofyo1 etc. [dont mind if i didnt include your name....this goes to all the devs]. Guys i appreciate your work, but we should not let the mytouch slide to die.
P.S. i am willing to offer some disk space from my vps for android community. If any devs want to host their roms or other stuff there, please contact me.
Cheers !
[Dont Take Me As Bad Or Rude]
By no means is it dead.
Dragons lie still in deathlike slumber until awakened to unleash their powerful presence upon the world of mortals yet again...aka no the slide isn't dead . Development has slowed a bit but that's mainly because there are a few key ROMs out that are being focused on. I'd rather have a selection of 3 or 4 good ROMs than dozens of crappy ones wouldn't you?
Edit: You might also want to change the title to "Is the myTouch Slide dead?" so people don't come here expecting to flame and mods don't move it without reading.
yea true...it is better to have few good roms than many bad....but it is even getting difficult to find few good roms, the only good one i have found is cyanogenmod. I will try ararays once it comes out.i hope it is great.
ksubedi said:
Guys, i might not be a active poster in this forum, but i am an active reader [100+ hits per day minimum]. Being a n00b in android developement, it might sound kinda funny. But WHAT ARE THE DEVS DOING! HAVE THEY MOVED TO ANOTHER DEVICE? I dont think its already time for the myTouch slide to be outdated. It has a 600 MHz processor, 512 MB RAM and other specs that are not outdated yet. Companies are still releasing phones having less specs than this. I see other phone's forums full of roms, kernels and other stuff. But i have been watching myTouch slide developement forum from few days, but there have been no posts at all, not even a clue of what the developers are doing. I didn't mean to be rude, but just wanted to say that MYTOUCH SLIDE IS NOT DEAD YET! And i want to thanks all the devs for all the ROMS and mods for mytouch. I appreciate your work eugene_373, wesgarner , kingofyo1 etc. [dont mind if i didnt include your name....this goes to all the devs]. Guys i appreciate your work, but we should not let the mytouch slide to die.
P.S. i am willing to offer some disk space from my vps for android community. If any devs want to host their roms or other stuff there, please contact me.
Cheers !
[Dont Take Me As Bad Or Rude]
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The MTS is pretty much dead outside of CM6 development, T-Mobile pretty much abandoned their Espresso 2.2 plans and not a whole lot of people purchased the Slide. Most who did traded it away for the HD2 or Vibrant.
What makes you say that? They never set a date to when they would release it... We really dont need anything from official froyo, besides wifi calling
thanks for the reply r0man, but in my view it is not dead yet, but i think that some developers are dead [no offence]. and arayray, can i give a suggestion for your new mod, i got the beta build somehow, everything is perfect [i think it is almost as stable as cyanogenmod]. But i think it lacks flash player. I know that every rom out there lacks it. But i have found a way to add the flash player in stock rom. Yes, but only thing needed is that we need to be able to use the sense's browser in our roms. then i have a flash apk file that is supported by the sense browser. a long time ago i had found a rom somewhere in the wild with a sense browser in stock android, and i tried the apk there, and it worked perfectly. please reply so that we can talk about this. i will be more than happy to help. and i can provide you the flash file. and i think the boot animation is a bit laggy. can you please fix it? everything else is AWESOME~!
Dude you got a good point there,I would also want to thank the devs for there hard work as well.
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App
arayray said:
What makes you say that? They never set a date to when they would release it... We really dont need anything from official froyo, besides wifi calling
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The myTouch 3G Slide software (Espresso) framework was completely ready for deployment in March of 2009. The fact that the device took yet another entire year to be released tells me that it is the red-headed step-child of T-Mobile and SHOULD have come out in 2009, NOT mid-2010. They will not release Froyo - all of you optimistic thinkers will continue to deny this and hope for the best, but the reality is that it was a failed device before it was even released.
lol man you reply like you have been working on tmobile as a developer for years.....how did u know that it was going to be released in 2009? and keep one thing in mind.... MYTOUCH IS NOT DEAD AT ALL!
Look at the cliq, yes they were promised 2.1 almost a year before they got it but they got it... Honestly how do you know their done with the update.
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The myTouch 3G Slide software (Espresso) framework was completely ready for deployment in March of 2009. The fact that the device took yet another entire year to be released tells me that it is the red-headed step-child of T-Mobile and SHOULD have come out in 2009, NOT mid-2010. They will not release Froyo - all of you optimistic thinkers will continue to deny this and hope for the best, but the reality is that it was a failed device before it was even released.
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T-Mo announced a month or 2 ago that the Froyo2Slide OTA will be out in December. I'm guessing next week.
It can't be dead if roms are still being developed on it.
daniel, arayray, joker, others (you know who you are).....
are doing the same thing as other devs are doing on other phones.
And it's definitely much more alive than it was a couple months ago.
Froyo/Sense hybrid + some cool features...... = definitely not dead.
A big thanks to the devs/modders.
Until CM other Modders/Devs dont produce any roms then its dead. How would you consider this phone dead when you have CM support and a nightly everyday or so. This phone isnt dead
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T-Mo announced a month or 2 ago that the Froyo2Slide OTA will be out in December. I'm guessing next week.
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Not saying it absolutely won't happen, but I'll believe it when I see it.
The development for the Slide is much much slower yes, and I am definitely not a fan of the lack of kernel development for this phone. Most of the sense roms look and feel the same, in my opinion. None of the froyo sense ports work too well, most of them either kb lights or wifi is broken. The eclair ports are pretty good, but I still prefer cr_mod. Cm6 is fairly active, but honestly, it's kind of a boring ROM. It's great and fast, but when I had my g1 I loved more the ROMs that were cm roms, plus awesome theming and the devs own twists and performance tweaks. Why don't we have more of that? We have some themed cm6 roms from miguel and one other I am blanking out on, but they are based off of nightlies, most from october or earlier, before many issues were fixed or improvements made.
Honestly, it'd be cooler to have more than just cyanogenmod and sense roms, which is why I'm excited for arayraymod, but where I'd really like to see a development boost is in the kernel area. I'm stable to 844mhz, pretty good. But our kernel from dumfuq lacks things like the brainfuck scheduler, I think it's called at least, and of course, smartass cpu governor. If we see anything I would like to see smartass incorporated. At least an undervolt?
I know, I'm digressing, this isn't a request thread by any means. The Slide isn't dead I don't think but sometimes I can't help but compare our forums to pretty much any other android phone and see how our development is depressingly slow. At least it isn't totally dead yet. If that tmo froyo ota really does come out then it may give a needed boost, hopefully at least.
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App
http://androidforums.com/t-mobile-mytouch-slide/203166-i-got-2-2-t-mo-thread.html
The thread starts off as your typical useless thread, but the more you read, the more possible it is that Froyo will be released. There are some independent accounts of what HTC and/or T-Mo said, but I'll say this now: if it doesn't come out by the end of December then it aint ever coming out.
I still think my previous statements about the Slide being heavily delayed and otherwise a failure (to T-Mo), are true. We'll see if T-Mo wants to hold up their end of the bargain on Froyo, however.
I think I'm up for a full upgrade in the next couple months. Come March, I'm planning on selling the Slide and getting something more top-of-the-line. I originally went with this phone because of the keyboard, but after having Swype and SwiftKey for a while, there's just no need. We got my wife a 4G yesterday and it's pretty sexy.
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What makes you say that? They never set a date to when they would release it... We really dont need anything from official froyo, besides wifi calling
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A .32+ kernel would be nice as well.
ksubedi said:
thanks for the reply r0man, but in my view it is not dead yet, but i think that some developers are dead [no offence]. and arayray, can i give a suggestion for your new mod, i got the beta build somehow, everything is perfect [i think it is almost as stable as cyanogenmod]. But i think it lacks flash player. I know that every rom out there lacks it. But i have found a way to add the flash player in stock rom. Yes, but only thing needed is that we need to be able to use the sense's browser in our roms. then i have a flash apk file that is supported by the sense browser. a long time ago i had found a rom somewhere in the wild with a sense browser in stock android, and i tried the apk there, and it worked perfectly. please reply so that we can talk about this. i will be more than happy to help. and i can provide you the flash file. and i think the boot animation is a bit laggy. can you please fix it? everything else is AWESOME~!
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Flash: You are using the Flash Lite plugin that came with stock Espresso, most likely, as Flash 10.1 with hardware acceleration requires an ARMv7 processor where the Slide possesses an ARMv6.
Bootanimation: Change the speed in desc.txt.
ksubedi said:
lol man you reply like you have been working on tmobile as a developer for years.....how did u know that it was going to be released in 2009? and keep one thing in mind.... MYTOUCH IS NOT DEAD AT ALL!
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The original Espresso leak was leaked in 2009.
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Look at the cliq, yes they were promised 2.1 almost a year before they got it but they got it... Honestly how do you know their done with the update.
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Well, Motorola had already done the majority of the work involved in porting 2.1 to the Cliq before T-Mobile started dropping high-end phones. It would've be cost ineffective of them to just drop the project all together. I will bet you almost anything that the Cliq will not receive an official 2.2 OTA (even though there are some alpha unofficial ports).
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T-Mo announced a month or 2 ago that the Froyo2Slide OTA will be out in December. I'm guessing next week.
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I'll believe it when I see it. I love T-Mobile, but they are absolutely horrible at sending out major OTA updates in a timely manner.
Cliq: Almost a year
Slide: Nope
G2: N/A
Mytouch 4G: N/A
Mytouch 3G: Over a year
G1: Nope
Vibrant: Nope (the latest leak is probably the final build, though)
Mytouch 3G 3mm/Fender: Nope (last I heard, at least)
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Not saying it absolutely won't happen, but I'll believe it when I see it.
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Agreed.
I'm not trying to dash anyones hopes here, CM development activity was probably continue until it cannot without a newer kernel to base on, but the MTS community is small and is getting smaller. It has been an amazing trip, and I think we can all say we have met some awesome people here, but the Slide was essentially dead-on-arrival.
Two things, CM development is still going strong. He said he's got the .32 kernel booting just not with wifi (or wifi calling not sure which) so that's not really an issue at the moment and it should show up pretty soon. Also the MT3G fender has a 2.2 update, or at least a version. I helped someone with one put froyo on it so it might just be a bit of a tweaked port but I think it's official. He wasn't rooted and he didnt get a signature issue so thats what I'm basing my guess on.
Part of what makes android great is its openness. I have, and absolutely hated, an HTC Hero. CM6 and all the kernals out there (and swype) changed that. It's still a laggy pile, but I have a feeling if I went back to the stock rom I'd be shocked at how bad it is.
Anyway, to get to the point, my friend got an intercept from virgin mobile, and I found out my brother has a moment. I was looking into custom Roms and whatnot for them to speed up their phones, assuming that with all the projects going on, they had something like we do.
As far as I can tell, they don't. Granted I've invested some time in the hero, so the "where do I even start" factor isn't nearly as high, but both the moment and instinct appeared to be in complete dissarray. There are 200 updates for the stock eclair rom and 200 roms based off of all of them. It seemed like no matter what rom you ran there was some "well this is faster, but the video camera doesn't work", style trade offs. As far as I could tell they've got about as much of a CM6 port, the only attempt at froyo I could see, running on the moment as ASOP had running on his heroc gingerbread build about 6 hours after the SDK hit.
So, I don't know if we got lucky that the smart/right guys got a hero as their phone, or if samsung phones are a tougher nut to crack, or what, but we really have it good over here. Even this forum itself is better and easier than the alternatives.
So, long story short, thanks for all the hard work boys and girls.
Edit: And it's quite possible, probable even, I'm wrong and there are tons of Froyo fully functioning roms for the moment, but the point still remains that there's so much crap out there that you know know what's what.
I could not agree more. I have read a lot here in the Hero community (hence my low post count, I wanted to learn, not have my hand held) Then I started exploring XDA, especially from my phone. It's amazing how much talent there is in the Hero forums, even compared to newer, better phones.
Echoing Fer's comment, XDA forums were a huge part of the reason that I got an Android phone vs. becoming an IPhone devotee. Constant improvements have been wonderful.
I know that I am NOT the reason that you, the developers, do what you do. But please accept my thanks for your irresistible urge to examine and improve.
Arnold
Firstly I'll just say hi to everyone (this is my first ever post on XDA)
And yea, almost 2 years after the Nexus One was originally released, I am just about to own one.
I've had a HTC Legend since May 2010 (I was unaware of the Nexus One at that time, because of this buying the Legend has always been a mistake IMO), and I'm tired of it, plus it has lots of software issues, and I've never really thought or attempted to root it.
And so, with my Legend's performance getting worse day by day, I thought I'd get myself a present for Christmas. I considered the Galaxy Nexus, but as I was buying the phone outright, I just couldn't justify paying £510 (+ shipping) for it, and ended up buying a new N1 from Amazon UK for £275 (that price includes shipping).
Since waiting for the phone to be delivered, I have been obsessing over vidoes of it, and forums. I have actually looked at around 100threads on this forum (how sad?!) over the last 48 hours. But, in the course of doing so I have become smitten with this community and the help it offers to those who ask for it.
So I look forward to joining this well established community, and finally owning a Nexus One!
Greetings Dorset,
Enjoy your Nexus One
Yours Sincerely,
Surrey.
P.S Good choice of phone, but look after that power button! (Trackball wake is a must).
Yeah the Power Button issue definitely concerns me, but I'll probably root after a few months, just so I can be sure that the rest of the hardware is okay.
In terms on Custom ROMs, everyone seems to have CM7 on their N1. Is this generally considered to be one of the best ROMs, or is there another reason for its popularity?
Oh, and Hai Surrey
Also make sure to make use of changing the color of trackball notifications. I don't one an N1 anymore [ I went to an HD2 since], but I loved the notification light on the trackball more than any other phones notification LED.
I'll definitely be making use of Trackball notifications for sure.
creebefu said:
In terms on Custom ROMs, everyone seems to have CM7 on their N1. Is this generally considered to be one of the best ROMs, or is there another reason for its popularity?
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Basically, this phone is too underpowered for properly running Sense builds, and the ones that were ported have always been with problems, the only relatively stable one being Froyo Sense 1 build ported from Desire by eViL D:.
This leaves it with stock, CM7 and MIUI.
Personally, for this phone I prefer MIUI - IMHO it's far more useful than CM7, containing many nice Sense bits while being small and fast (smooth).
Jack_R1 said:
Basically, this phone is too underpowered for properly running Sense builds, and the ones that were ported have always been with problems, the only relatively stable one being Froyo Sense 1 build ported from Desire by eViL D:.
This leaves it with stock, CM7 and MIUI.
Personally, for this phone I prefer MIUI - IMHO it's far more useful than CM7, containing many nice Sense bits while being small and fast (smooth).
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I beg to differ.
HyperSense is perfectly stable, as is Revolution (though he continues to add features and change things up so issues could arise in new builds). I use HyperSense as a daily with absolutely no issues.
As for MIUI, I'd agree that its a great choice also...though i ALWAYS install LauncherPro because i love the features MIUI packs but absolutely derad the iPhone look.
Just my .02.
Welcome to XDA man!
phone is not underpowered main disadvantage is it lacks internal memory when talking about sense roms.Despite of this many people have successfully ported gb sense to n1 without graphical glitches ( thanks to kernel developer fogot name ) other bugs.go ahead and try;u will definately love them
amolji said:
phone is not underpowered main disadvantage is it lacks internal memory when talking about sense roms.Despite of this many people have successfully ported gb sense to n1 without graphical glitches ( thanks to kernel developer fogot name ) other bugs.go ahead and try;u will definately love them
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I happened to have N1 and MT4G at the same time (now the N1 is gone), and I can compare their performance first hand.
N1 is seriously underpowered, graphics-wise and storage-speed-wise, to run Sense.
Internal memory disadvantage can be overcome by various SD-EXT utilization techniques.
And Sense doesn't have trackball wake.
dbasabe did great work, but it doesn't turn N1 into a capable Sense device.
creebefu said:
Firstly I'll just say hi to everyone (this is my first ever post on XDA)
And yea, almost 2 years after the Nexus One was originally released, I am just about to own one.
I've had a HTC Legend since May 2010 (I was unaware of the Nexus One at that time, because of this buying the Legend has always been a mistake IMO), and I'm tired of it, plus it has lots of software issues, and I've never really thought or attempted to root it.
And so, with my Legend's performance getting worse day by day, I thought I'd get myself a present for Christmas. I considered the Galaxy Nexus, but as I was buying the phone outright, I just couldn't justify paying £510 (+ shipping) for it, and ended up buying a new N1 from Amazon UK for £275 (that price includes shipping).
Since waiting for the phone to be delivered, I have been obsessing over vidoes of it, and forums. I have actually looked at around 100threads on this forum (how sad?!) over the last 48 hours. But, in the course of doing so I have become smitten with this community and the help it offers to those who ask for it.
So I look forward to joining this well established community, and finally owning a Nexus One!
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Congratulations!
Not many people would like to buy a cellphone which was released one year ago since more and more new devices come out in a real fast way.
But believe me, you won't regret for this and hope you can enjoy it, if you have any problems in using your cellphone, you are welcomed to this forum!
I agree on the post above. I just decided to buy a Nexus one despite of all the high-powered android devices nowadays. I guess I just simply love the look and feel of this phone.
Anyway, welcome to the forum! A lot of good and helpful folks are here. Cheers!
Sent from my Nexus One using xda premium
dionix05 said:
I agree on the post above. I just decided to buy a Nexus one despite of all the high-powered android devices nowadays. I guess I just simply love the look and feel of this phone.
Anyway, welcome to the forum! A lot of good and helpful folks are here. Cheers!
Sent from my Nexus One using xda premium
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Awesome! Glad I'm not the only one buying this phone after so long.
So far I am loving it. And considering the price of new phones, I really don't think you'd be getting much more over the N1 for what you get with new phones.
I will use this phone for at least 1 year.
I have the nexus since it's release to canada by google, no power button issue at all, cyanogen is one of the best rom for a lot of device, on the nexus it manage memory well so it's a good choice.
As far as this phone is concerned, it may not be dual core, but it's fast and the only missing feature compared to newer phone are 4G and near field communication, unless you need those you should be happy with the nexus one despite is age!
I personally doesn't see any justification to upgrade yet
besides the touchscreen failures .. its a great phone despite its age
creebefu said:
Firstly I'll just say hi to everyone (this is my first ever post on XDA)
And yea, almost 2 years after the Nexus One was originally released, I am just about to own one.
I've had a HTC Legend since May 2010 (I was unaware of the Nexus One at that time, because of this buying the Legend has always been a mistake IMO), and I'm tired of it, plus it has lots of software issues, and I've never really thought or attempted to root it.
And so, with my Legend's performance getting worse day by day, I thought I'd get myself a present for Christmas. I considered the Galaxy Nexus, but as I was buying the phone outright, I just couldn't justify paying £510 (+ shipping) for it, and ended up buying a new N1 from Amazon UK for £275 (that price includes shipping).
Since waiting for the phone to be delivered, I have been obsessing over vidoes of it, and forums. I have actually looked at around 100threads on this forum (how sad?!) over the last 48 hours. But, in the course of doing so I have become smitten with this community and the help it offers to those who ask for it.
So I look forward to joining this well established community, and finally owning a Nexus One!
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I'm in exactly the same position as you! (and what's more, I'm also from Dorset ) Except my Nexus One came today! It's beautiful! I got mine for about £109 from ebay and I'm also hoping to root and install CM7, as that's what I had running on my old Motorola Milestone (which died and was the reason I bought this) Good luck with this device!
One of the reasons why CM7 is so popular, is because it is pretty much the only truly custom build based on AOSP out there. There are a lot of AOSP builds that are very basic and don't deviate much from stock, and then there are a much larger amount of builds that are based off the CyanogenMod code base. MIUI is one of those.
But MIUI does make a ton of changes to the CM base, just as CM makes a ton of changes to the AOSP base. It does make MIUI stand out of the pack of CM-derived ROMs out there. While it did start with the CM codebase, they have done an excellent job of distinguishing themselves and giving a completely different user experience than someone running CM.
There are definitely a lot of different builds out there for our beloved N1's, but the two that tend to push the envelope the most and add the most new features are CM and MIUI. Try both out and see how you like them.
And I would recommend rooting much earlier. I had my phone for 3 months before I rooted it, and after I rooted and put CM6 on there (this was well before Gingerbread was released), I kicked myself for not doing it earlier. It runs sooo much better than stock ever did, plus there are a ton of new features.
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One of the reasons why CM7 is so popular, is because it is pretty much the only truly custom build based on AOSP out there. There are a lot of AOSP builds that are very basic and don't deviate much from stock, and then there are a much larger amount of builds that are based off the CyanogenMod code base. MIUI is one of those.
But MIUI does make a ton of changes to the CM base, just as CM makes a ton of changes to the AOSP base. It does make MIUI stand out of the pack of CM-derived ROMs out there. While it did start with the CM codebase, they have done an excellent job of distinguishing themselves and giving a completely different user experience than someone running CM.
There are definitely a lot of different builds out there for our beloved N1's, but the two that tend to push the envelope the most and add the most new features are CM and MIUI. Try both out and see how you like them.
And I would recommend rooting much earlier. I had my phone for 3 months before I rooted it, and after I rooted and put CM6 on there (this was well before Gingerbread was released), I kicked myself for not doing it earlier. It runs sooo much better than stock ever did, plus there are a ton of new features.
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miui is off of AOSP, not CM.. IIRC
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miui is off of AOSP, not CM.. IIRC
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Negative.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIUI
MIUI is based on Android 2.3.7 and CyanogenMod 7.1 sources
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P00r said:
I have the nexus since it's release to canada by google, no power button issue at all, cyanogen is one of the best rom for a lot of device, on the nexus it manage memory well so it's a good choice.
As far as this phone is concerned, it may not be dual core, but it's fast and the only missing feature compared to newer phone are 4G and near field communication, unless you need those you should be happy with the nexus one despite is age!
I personally doesn't see any justification to upgrade yet
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^completely agree with this guy here. I purchased my N1 (US though, not Canada ) at release. I've had not a single issue with power button or anything for that matter. Out of the "common" N1 issues, the only one I encountered was small dust or dirt particles under the screen. That's kind of my fault because I work outside and I keep my phone in my pocket where stuff does get in my pocket on occasions. I plan on eventually researching how to take the screen off and clean that stuff out.
As for everything else he said, spot on. Phone functions plenty fast enough and internet moves quick enough for my taste (and I use my internet A LOT including teethering to my PC as my main source of internet use). Though I would love to get a Galaxy Nexus, I don't think I can justify to myself (or my wife for that matter! haha) the need to spend $700 on a new phone.
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besides the touchscreen failures .. its a great phone despite its age
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Never encountered any such issues.
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...I would recommend rooting much earlier. I had my phone for 3 months before I rooted it, and after I rooted and put CM6 on there (this was well before Gingerbread was released), I kicked myself for not doing it earlier. It runs sooo much better than stock ever did, plus there are a ton of new features.
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^this guy is right as well. I use to work for U-Haul and I had my N1 for maybe 2 months, didn't know anything about rooting and such as it was my first serious smart phone (I came from an LG Vu) when some younger guy came in with an N1 (only one I've ever seen in person by the way besides mine, to this day) and we started talking about it and he asked me if I had force updated my phone and such. He told me about XDA, I joined up, and here I am today. I force updated with the update.zip that was on here, learned about rooting, and within a week after that I had my phone rooted and never looked back. Did a lot of CM nightly testing and such. I've used CM, MIUI, Sense...you name it...from developers new and old (still miss Evil's work!) and every kernel you can think of.
I'd highly suggest rooting ASAP and taking full advantage of this amazing phone
creebefu said:
Firstly I'll just say hi to everyone (this is my first ever post on XDA)
And yea, almost 2 years after the Nexus One was originally released, I am just about to own one.
I've had a HTC Legend since May 2010 (I was unaware of the Nexus One at that time, because of this buying the Legend has always been a mistake IMO), and I'm tired of it, plus it has lots of software issues, and I've never really thought or attempted to root it.
And so, with my Legend's performance getting worse day by day, I thought I'd get myself a present for Christmas. I considered the Galaxy Nexus, but as I was buying the phone outright, I just couldn't justify paying £510 (+ shipping) for it, and ended up buying a new N1 from Amazon UK for £275 (that price includes shipping).
Since waiting for the phone to be delivered, I have been obsessing over vidoes of it, and forums. I have actually looked at around 100threads on this forum (how sad?!) over the last 48 hours. But, in the course of doing so I have become smitten with this community and the help it offers to those who ask for it.
So I look forward to joining this well established community, and finally owning a Nexus One!
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Your unlucky...
The newer Nexus S is £199 Sim free at carphine warehouse!
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How do you feel about the company after all this time? Has any of the controversies changed your perception of the company? Would you buy its products in the future? Etc...
For me the company isn't as good as it was in the past when i bought the OPO. The controversies have changed my perception of the company by a lot. They have opened up a whole lot about the company that their PR Team can't cover up. The most sad thing I've found is that OP doesn't want to address the problems and even if they do they don't want to solve it. Its an amateur move to think that there's an easy way out. For instance (agree with me or not) OxygenOS was a screw up after all that hype. But they didn't address the problem they just kept hyping it more and more. For fixing of the problem, there is no update for OxygenOS.. It's like the project is dead. But let's not about that.
For the future products, I will look forward to buy them but the doubt a person has before buying something has definitely increased from when i bought the OPO
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How do you feel about the company after all this time? Has any of the controversies changed your perception of the company? Would you buy its products in the future? Etc...
For me the company isn't as good as it was in the past when i bought the OPO. The controversies have changed my perception of the company by a lot. They have opened up a whole lot about the company that their PR Team can't cover up. The most sad thing I've found is that OP doesn't want to address the problems and even if they do they don't want to solve it. Its an amateur move to think that there's an easy way out. For instance (agree with me or not) OxygenOS was a screw up after all that hype. But they didn't address the problem they just kept hyping it more and more. For fixing of the problem, there is no update for OxygenOS.. It's like the project is dead. But let's not about that.
For the future products, I will look forward to buy them but the doubt a person has before buying something has definitely increased from when i bought the OPO
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How was Oxygen a screw up? Do you mean the extended delays? If so I agree completely, they made a huge mistake in continually promising release dates that they couldn't make. As far as updates go, it's been less than two months since release. Have a look at all the other OEM release schedules and it's pretty clear that updates aren't usually very frequent. Either way I'd still consider buying another OnePlus product, but my decision would hinge on what OS was shipped with the product.
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How was Oxygen a screw up? Do you mean the extended delays? If so I agree completely, they made a huge mistake in continually promising release dates that they couldn't make. As far as updates go, it's been less than two months since release. Have a look at all the other OEM release schedules and it's pretty clear that updates aren't usually very frequent. Either way I'd still consider buying another OnePlus product, but my decision would hinge on what OS was shipped with the product.
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Its not about the OS at all...Mentioning the OS was just for an instance and it was the first thing that came to my mind...I can google the other things if you want..give you a complete;y detailed list with the highest crystal purity you have ever seen :silly:
and i understand that it takes to roll out updates...But what is the overhyped PA/O2OS team doing since the past couple of months?
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Its not about the OS at all...Mentioning the OS was just for an instance and it was the first thing that came to my mind...I can google the other things if you want..give you a complete;y detailed list with the highest crystal purity you have ever seen :silly:
and i understand that it takes to roll out updates...But what is the overhyped PA/O2OS team doing since the past couple of months?
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I get what you're saying, OnePlus have made quite a few mistakes. They're a young company though, that's not to excuse them exactly, but hopefully they actually learn from their errors and make a bigger effort in future.
In regards to Oxygen, it isn't PA, there's only one member of the Oxygen team that came from Paranoid Android. As far as it being over-hyped, I can only assume that you're saying you weren't overly pleased with the end product. But as I see it they delivered exactly what they promised; a close to stock Android experience. I've seen a lot of people complain that it lacks features that they're used to, but those features that they're missing aren't a part of stock Android and therefore shouldn't have been expected in the first place. If people want those kinds of features turn they need to turn to the one place that they're readily available; XDA, and custom ROMs. In saying that, I don't personally like Oxygen, because I like more features, so I use custom ROMs. But I was fully aware that Oxygen was being promoted as a stock-like experience so there's no reason to complain about that. The fact that I don't personally like it doesn't make it a bad product, it just means it's my own opinion, and I'm not arrogant enough to think that my opinion means that it's a bad OS, there are many people out there that love it.
What have the Oxygen team been doing? What has any development team been doing since their last update? Working on the OS (hopefully). The fact is we're not entitled to anything, it's an optional OS.
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I get what you're saying, OnePlus have made quite a few mistakes. They're a young company though, that's not to excuse them exactly, but hopefully they actually learn from their errors and make a bigger effort in future.
In regards to Oxygen, it isn't PA, there's only one member of the Oxygen team that came from Paranoid Android. As far as it being over-hyped, I can only assume that you're saying you weren't overly pleased with the end product. But as I see it they delivered exactly what they promised; a close to stock Android experience. I've seen a lot of people complain that it lacks features that they're used to, but those features that they're missing aren't a part of stock Android and therefore shouldn't have been expected in the first place. If people want those kinds of features turn they need to turn to the one place that they're readily available; XDA, and custom ROMs. In saying that, I don't personally like Oxygen, because I like more features, so I use custom ROMs. But I was fully aware that Oxygen was being promoted as a stock-like experience so there's no reason to complain about that. The fact that I don't personally like it doesn't make it a bad product, it just means it's my own opinion, and I'm not arrogant enough to think that my opinion means that it's a bad OS, there are many people out there that love it.
What have the Oxygen team been doing? What has any development team been doing since their last update? Working on the OS (hopefully). The fact is we're not entitled to anything, it's an optional OS.
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I don't know how this turned into a debate on n OxygenOS. But now since it has there are already too many ROMs which are near stock experience.. What's the use of one more? Also they never said they were going to release a ROM which was near stock rather they said it was going to be something great. There are already enough averages out there, no need for one more giving the stock experience.
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I don't know how this turned into a debate on n OxygenOS. But now since it has there are already too many ROMs which are near stock experience.. What's the use of one more? Also they never said they were going to release a ROM which was near stock rather they said it was going to be something great. There are already enough averages out there, no need for one more giving the stock experience.
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Natural progression of the conversation since that's where you started in your OP. What's the use? Choice. The fact that you don't like it doesn't mean others don't, you have your opinion and you're entitled to that, but your opinion doesn't dictate how others see the ROM. It's simple; if you don't like Oxygen just don't use it. We have literally dozens and dozens of ROMs available for this phone so you can have your pick.
There are plenty of people who want a near stock experience. And yes, they did promote it as that on numerous occasions. And it is great in many people's eyes, which brings me back to my previous point; the fact that you don't think it's great doesn't mean it isn't great for someone else. To each their own.
To say thread the ROM is pointless is akin to saying that any phone without a custom ROM on it (and running OEM firmware) is pointless. There are billions of those in the world. Custom ROMs are the minority. Plus, there are many ROMs right here on XDA that are a near stock experience, are they all pointless?
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Natural progression of the conversation since that's where you started in your OP. What's the use? Choice. The fact that you don't like it doesn't mean others don't, you have your opinion and you're entitled to that, but your opinion doesn't dictate how others see the ROM. It's simple; if you don't like Oxygen just don't use it. We have literally dozens and dozens of ROMs available for this phone so you can have your pick.
There are plenty of people who want a near stock experience. And yes, they did promote it as that on numerous occasions. And it is great in many people's eyes, which brings me back to my previous point; the fact that you don't think it's great doesn't mean it isn't great for someone else. To each their own.
To say thread the ROM is pointless is akin to saying that any phone without a custom ROM on it (and running OEM firmware) is pointless. There are billions of those in the world. Custom ROMs are the minority. Plus, there are many ROMs right here on XDA that are a near stock experience, are they all pointless?
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Is adding 1 to 100 pointless? Yup!
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Is adding 1 to 100 pointless? Yup!
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Alright, I can see this is a discussion that will go nowhere because you fully believe that your opinion is the only one in the world that matters, that your opinion is the only one in the world that is right, and that your opinion is fact and not just an opinion. No matter how many perfectly rational and valid points I put forward you're unable to open your mind to see past your own point of view. Good luck with that.
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Alright, I can see this is a discussion that will go nowhere because you fully believe that your opinion is the only one in the world that matters, that your opinion is the only one in the world that is right, and that your opinion is fact and not just an opinion. No matter how many perfectly rational and valid points I put forward you're unable to open your mind to see past your own point of view. Good luck with that.
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Yes you are right. OP's own conscience is not clear yet. He need to understand what exactly he want from the company. Oxygen OS was pure AOSP build. I don't think there is any ROM on XDA which is pure stock like Oxygen. So people who love AOSP ROM's will prefer oxygen. Other people have tons of ROMs to choose from.
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Yes you are right. OP's own conscience is not clear yet. He need to understand what exactly he want from the company. Oxygen OS was pure AOSP build. I don't think there is any ROM on XDA which is pure stock like Oxygen. So people who love AOSP ROM's will prefer oxygen. Other people have tons of ROMs to choose from.
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First of all i didn't come here to discuss about OxygenOS and conscience? Really?
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Alright, I can see this is a discussion that will go nowhere because you fully believe that your opinion is the only one in the world that matters, that your opinion is the only one in the world that is right, and that your opinion is fact and not just an opinion. No matter how many perfectly rational and valid points I put forward you're unable to open your mind to see past your own point of view. Good luck with that.
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I don't about my opinion and my ability to look beyond it but what i know from roaming around these forums is that its very easy to honey pot people. Its very easy to get their loyalty and to have them defend you at no matter what. Its really easy to stop them from taking out a moment and rationally thinking.
I personally think OnePlus is on the right track. I'd consider a phone from them again only if the value was similar. A phone with these specs at 360 today is still a decent deal. Regarding oxygen os, I'm one of the users that likes it pure asop base and then I use xposed to add the specific features I want. I view the sheer volume of choices as a huge value add for this phone and its ease to flash custom roms a huge benefit ensuring support from dev community for a while. Is there room for improvement? Absolutely but it's still high on my list of vendors to choose from when it's time to upgrade.
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First of all i didn't come here to discuss about OxygenOS and conscience? Really?
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Can't you see you are begging for updates of Oxygen in your first post. Now you are saying its not about Oxygen OS.
loving OPO the starting period... Now hating and waiting to sold my OPO and I will NEVER buy a product from them anymore.
From 1 month I've the display issue, with ghost/non responsive touch, no matter what ROM or FIX I apply....
I contact the assistance to change it in warranty, they told me that they can't repair 'cause it have some dents on the frame...
They continue to send me ROMS, links, zips with pre-writed forms, they never read one word from what i write them.
So, I've a VERY BAD opinion of them, and from now, I will leave forever all their products to others people on the earth.
Flagship killer.... it's easy to use batches of fail/cheap display and when they result as crappy display you search all excuses to not repair them.
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Can't you see you are begging for updates of Oxygen in your first post. Now you are saying its not about Oxygen OS.
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dude i don't even use o2os
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loving OPO the starting period... Now hating and waiting to sold my OPO and I will NEVER buy a product from them anymore.
From 1 month I've the display issue, with ghost/non responsive touch, no matter what ROM or FIX I apply....
I contact the assistance to change it in warranty, they told me that they can't repair 'cause it have some dents on the frame...
They continue to send me ROMS, links, zips with pre-writed forms, they never read one word from what i write them.
So, I've a VERY BAD opinion of them, and from now, I will leave forever all their products to others people on the earth.
Flagship killer.... it's easy to use batches of fail/cheap display and when they result as crappy display you search all excuses to not repair them.
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OP's service has always been awful
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It all depends on the price for me. I bought the Oneplus One because it was pretty cheap, had good specs and a decent community. I might buy the Two if it's cheap. If it's expensive because of some useless metal parts or because it has the ability to control my tv or make soup, I won't buy it.
I love my OPO and can't wait for OP2. Tech support IME has been fantastic, they solved a small issue without delay and were friendly & helpful the entire time. I'd recommend OnePlus to anybody based on that experience and of course the phone itself. tbh i don't care at all about OxygenOS or delays because I run rooted custom all the time no matter what it came with. Mine came with KitKat and was awesome the whole time, when LP arrived it was still awesome so there's no reason to be unhappy.
CM12S is a good default choice for most ppl and the camera app is solid, only wish it used Camera2 LP API even if we'd lose the Clear Image feature. Openness of the hardware is like a breath of fresh air after years of Samsung. Now that Samsung is trying to be Apple with KNOX and other BS it's even more compelling to choose OnePlus for the next iteration - IF they keep the screen at least 5.5, hopefully bigger.
Hello guys, since our XSP is already 2 years old, I wanted to know some of your thoughts on this phone. Do you regret buying it? Do you think it's still a good phone? Share your opinions here.
PD: Sorry for any mistake, English isn't my native language
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Hello guys, since our XSP is already 2 years old, I wanted to know some of your thoughts on this phone. Do you regret buying it? Do you think it's still a good phone? Share your opinions here.
PD: Sorry for any mistake, English isn't my native language
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In short, it's still Awesome to me!
The best thing is; there's so many stable ROMs to try, I don't think much of 2013 device has any development going now at all. So yeah I'm pretty satisfied.
I think it is a good phone today, but at this time i can say that only if i have stock debloated rom or cm11, lp roms have too much problems and freezes to use it as daily driver for a long time.
Btw i suggest you to try every single rom on this phone if you are getting to it now
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I think it is a good phone today, but at this time i can say that only if i have stock debloated rom or cm11, lp roms have too much problems and freezes to use it as daily driver for a long time.
Btw i suggest you to try every single rom on this phone if you are getting to it now
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Try CM11 by Bagyusz [v150826] if you haven't yet.
It's the smoothest 4.4.4 ROM I've ever used!
I have never even flashed phone than the SP.
The only reason i still have it, i like the colour lights.
Soooo sloww, android 6 rom fixed it but maybe too late?
I still regret buying it. It has been a disappointment for me from the beginning and has given me so much frustration. Honestly I think this phone actually made my life incredibly hard at the worst moments as if it could sense it. If I would have had a good working stable phone, I think I would have been happier the last two years. I'm not kidding and not exaggerating. I really mean this. So I'm very glad that I'm buying a new phone soon... I just have to figure out which one... But when I have one I'll be throwing this ****ty stupid thing against a wall, kick it a few times and throw it in a fire. I've literally had blue knuckles from hitting this phone hoping it was going to do what I wanted it to do. I even flashed and unlocked it and everything which I don't even want and like to do. And then somehow all roms slow down within a week even without installing anything other than whatsapp which seems to work fine for on phones of my friends. So I might even leave android and go for the new Lumia 950. Anyway, never a Sony again because I'm still blaming them for not giving us a stable stock rom and kitkat. I'm done with them, I'm done with this phone and I might be done with android.
So yeah... that is basically the rage this phone has given me.
edit: usually I'm a really, really calm and patient guy... really... but this phone got under my skin so many times, I can stand some amount of lag, but not this amount. I'm traumatised for life.
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I still regret buying it. It has been a disappointment for me from the beginning and has given me so much frustration. Honestly I think this phone actually made my life incredibly hard at the worst moments as if it could sense it. If I would have had a good working stable phone, I think I would have been happier the last two years. I'm not kidding and not exaggerating. I really mean this. So I'm very glad that I'm buying a new phone soon... I just have to figure out which one... But when I have one I'll be throwing this ****ty stupid thing against a wall, kick it a few times and throw it in a fire. I've literally had blue knuckles from hitting this phone hoping it was going to do what I wanted it to do. I even flashed and unlocked it and everything which I don't even want and like to do. And then somehow all roms slow down within a week even without installing anything other than whatsapp which seems to work fine for on phones of my friends. So I might even leave android and go for the new Lumia 950. Anyway, never a Sony again because I'm still blaming them for not giving us a stable stock rom and kitkat. I'm done with them, I'm done with this phone and I might be done with android.
So yeah... that is basically the rage this phone has given me.
edit: usually I'm a really, really calm and patient guy... really... but this phone got under my skin so many times, I can stand some amount of lag, but not this amount. I'm traumatised for life.
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could you just try this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-sp/general/lagfree-want-lagfree-4-days-battery-t3245164
Sometimes I don't like how it lags.
But it's cool to use custom Roms on it.
I have it since 2013, but I want to buy a new one, lag free.
as long as i get new ROMS to try .. i love xsp
using one right now, rooted but with JB 4.3 and stock ROM. it gave me quite a headache at first due to some lag/freezing issues. was able to resolve those issues after deleting the built-in Facebook app.
I love it. It might not be the best phone but I love it. It can easily cover my needs ( mainly lots of video streaming) and I recently went back to stock 4.1.2 (from a 5.1.1 rom) that I've modded on my own. I just can't find something really bad to say about this phone. I'll keep using it as my daily driver until it can't cover my needs.
I have been using mine for 2 years and it is still a really good phone, yes it sometimes very occasionally gets the yellow fading and the memory management could be a bit better but in general it does everything you can ever need. Recently I have been a bit a bored though as I have had no justification to get a new phone So just started playing with the lollipop roms. Definitely given it a new lease of life!
Well i have this phone for a little more than 2 years i fell in love with it's compact design and of course the unique illumination bar,
it's still like day one on the outside, i bought it because my Neo V had dropped of my pocket and went to heaven.
But after 2 years i really got bored with,i didn't have many lags maybe because i don't use it more than average but the worst was that the keyboard kept disappearing and it didn't show up.
With XSP i am doing my first steps at heavy modding flashing etc,i remember those day that i was super happy cause i did made it to change the menu icons in my K800i and i was showing of at school ,anyway,i am afraid to get it bricked but i read tons of pages with one purpose the goal for me with custom roms is to find the battery drain, and the stability (ok ... sort of) of the original version, hopefully.
I definitely won't regret buying it, it worth's it's money, i comfortable keeping it even more, and i am still angry with Sony for not getting 4.4kk .
Peace !
I have it since last 2 years. Sold it last month to try Xperia M5, returned M5 (Because its a horrible phone) and re bought my SP with loss of 10 pounds
Best feature Notification LED and yup Gaming on XSP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M5
very laggy phone, would not recommend it to anyone